VE SS vs SV300

[SSASSC1]

I have always liked the sv300 when it came out back in 2002. Rather expensive too, at around $98,000 :shock: But it did have the CB4, 3.9s, 6man, nice leather and that sporty VX shape

You can get a low Km sv300 now for about the same price as a new VE SS.

Any of you guys think a good sv300 would be a better buy than the VE SS as I reckon the VE SS would devalue much faster than the already devalued price of the sv300. There were so few sv300's sold it could be a good investment
Any thoughts chaps........

[Ghosn]

It's really really simple.

Test drive both cars and you will come to the conclusion that this was a waste of a thread. ;)

[silvervyss]

I have always liked the sv300 when it came out back in 2002. Rather expensive too, at around $98,000 :shock: But it did have the CB4, 3.9s, 6man, nice leather and that sporty VX shape

You can get a low Km sv300 now for about the same price as a new VE SS.

Any of you guys think a good sv300 would be a better buy than the VE SS as I reckon the VE SS would devalue much faster than the already devalued price of the sv300. There were so few sv300's sold it could be a good investment
Any thoughts chaps........

Ask for an opinion and in typical fashion you are told this is a waste of thread. if its a waste of thread, why comment in the first place.

Ssassc1, personally i would go with the sv300.

[johnv]

At the end of the day choose the one which you will enjoy driving and owning the most (personal choice) as very few cars could be classed as an "investment" almost all will depreciate in value, just some quicker than others - unless maybe you have an early GT falcon or Monaro sitting under wraps !

[planetdavo]

Ask for an opinion and in typical fashion you are told this is a waste of thread. if its a waste of thread, why comment in the first place.

Ssassc1, personally i would go with the sv300.
Ultimately, it is the thread starters money, not anyone who replies. Whenever I read these types of questions, they always end up being hijacked by people that can't afford either car, and haven't driven either car, so to a degree, what is the point? With that, I agree. It is brave asking people to help spend his own money...;)
All I'm going to add is that the SV300 is several models old now, so wear and tear is a major factor, and the VE SS will be just as quick but will handle better. Around the traps in the trade, I've never heard of the SV300 being rated as more desirable than a GTS. What you decide to get, all the best with it.

[csv rulz]

Thats a hard choice, Obviosly the SS would be the better handler and probably better car to live with all day, but saying that personally the SV300 was my fav all time hsv. It really comes down to your personal choice and no one else can make that desision for you.

If it were me i wouldnt know, the heart would say sv300 but the brain would say VE SS

[FunkyPig]

Something to comsider is how you and other people will view each car over time. In 1, 2 + years the VE SS will be one of many on the roads, just like you see VT/VX/VY SS's everywhere now. With the SV300 you have something that is special, and a classic, no matter what age it is.

Hard decision, if it was me I honestly don't know which one I'd go for. Probably the VE and then I might regret it later.

[Sonnymad]

I have always liked the sv300 when it came out back in 2002. Rather expensive too, at around $98,000 :shock: But it did have the CB4, 3.9s, 6man, nice leather and that sporty VX shape

You can get a low Km sv300 now for about the same price as a new VE SS.

Any of you guys think a good sv300 would be a better buy than the VE SS as I reckon the VE SS would devalue much faster than the already devalued price of the sv300. There were so few sv300's sold it could be a good investment
Any thoughts chaps........

Defantly take the sv300:D ,i have been offered lots of cash for my sv300 many times :),its a very special vehicle,i love mine to death,will never part with it,i think its one of the best hsv's ever produced besides my walky,i regretted selling that car to date ! The other car i love as well is the "sv6000" awsome piece of work their to ! good luck ;)


Heres teaser pic :D
http://www.lostmybeer.com/sonny/oboost.jpg

http://www.lostmybeer.com/sonny/oboost1.jpg

http://www.lostmybeer.com/sonny/oboost2.jpg

[VX2VESS]

over time i think the sv300 will have a greater sale price over the VE when it gets older. you'll loose a lot on the VE the day after you buy it.

if its for a daily driver the VE would be the better choice even though it will loose more value. becasue if the SV300 is a daily it will loose value almost as quick as the VE.

Sv300 is a car to look after not daily drive. but if you prefer its looks what the heck. i still prefer the sv300 shape anyway.

[Carby]

The SS is the better car but the SV 300 is more exclusive. If it is a everyday driver I'd go for the SS - high K's on the SV300 will diminish it's value, if you are only to use it on weekends or so, definitely the SV300!

[Ghosn]

Ask for an opinion and in typical fashion you are told this is a waste of thread. if its a waste of thread, why comment in the first place.

Ssassc1, personally i would go with the sv300.

I was only slightly brutal because I am willing to bet he hasn't even driven both cars. Think about it for a minute, wouldn't the smart thing to do is possibly go out and test the cars in question before asking for other people's opinions who you have never met before on which would be a better purchase? I could understand if he had tested the cars and is still stuck on a decision but if he doesn't mention testing them then I can only come to the conclusion he hasn't.

[SSASSC1]

Yes - I have driven both cars and rather like the sv300. The SS drives a bit more refined but the SV300 is really something special

IMHO the vx shape of the sv300 is something of a classic. Checkout this one for sale here.

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/HSV/SV300/details.aspx?Model=SV300&__Nne=20&__N=4294965530+0+4294956264+834+285+257&Make=HSV&State=All%20States&silo=1003&state_id=0&distance=25&Cr=1&seot=0&__sid=10F170F9C7AE&R=379795&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=3

The SS and sv300 I agree will always lose money and there are not many SV300's around. if I were to buy a new SS it would lose easily 10K in the first 12 months and be as common as a taxi. The SV300 on the otherhand I don't think it would lose 10K and it would still be special. Does this make sense?

[Sonnymad]

Yes - I have driven both cars and rather like the sv300. The SS drives a bit more refined but the SV300 is really something special

IMHO the vx shape of the sv300 is something of a classic. Checkout this one for sale here.

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/HSV/SV300/details.aspx?Model=SV300&__Nne=20&__N=4294965530+0+4294956264+834+285+257&Make=HSV&State=All%20States&silo=1003&state_id=0&distance=25&Cr=1&seot=0&__sid=10F170F9C7AE&R=379795&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=3

The SS and sv300 I agree will always lose money and there are not many SV300's around. if I were to buy a new SS it would lose easily 10K in the first 12 months and be as common as a taxi. The SV300 on the otherhand I don't think it would lose 10K and it would still be special. Does this make sense?

The main thing is to keep it in pristine condition and take good care of it and watch the km's,the sv300 preferably would be a good weekender,look for a good clean unit as i have seen some rel battered unit round,goodluck

check this link out good clean unit with low km's
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/HSV/SV300/details.aspx?__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32|1||pCar_Pr ice_Decimal|0&Make=HSV&__Nne=20&R=676652&Region=All%20Regions&state_id=0&__N=4294965530+0+4294956264++834+285+258+287&distance=25&trecs=2&Model=SV300&RegionID=&__sid=10F495AAF2BD&silo=1000&Cr=1&seot=0&State=All%20States
regards sonny

[csv rulz]

Sounds like you have already made up your mind mate.

[HRT 8]

I was only slightly brutal because I am willing to bet he hasn't even driven both cars. Think about it for a minute, wouldn't the smart thing to do is possibly go out and test the cars in question before asking for other people's opinions who you have never met before on which would be a better purchase? I could understand if he had tested the cars and is still stuck on a decision but if he doesn't mention testing them then I can only come to the conclusion he hasn't.
And your wrong!

Ghosn why dont you relax and bite your tongue. Your input lately isnt overly constructive is it?
Have a think about it. If a guy wants an opinion then why answer with the smartarse comment you did. Your the one wasting everybodys time.

[jona]

personally i think the sv 300 looks horn! But thats about all it has over the VE in my opinion. VE has better engine, better base for handling and not to mention is brand new. You are the only one who can make the choice, but hell, im gunna say buy both. The sv for weekends and VE for weekdays:lmao: :lmao:

[csv rulz]

Yes - I have driven both cars and rather like the sv300. The SS drives a bit more refined but the SV300 is really something special

IMHO the vx shape of the sv300 is something of a classic. Checkout this one for sale here.

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/HSV/SV300/details.aspx?Model=SV300&__Nne=20&__N=4294965530+0+4294956264+834+285+257&Make=HSV&State=All%20States&silo=1003&state_id=0&distance=25&Cr=1&seot=0&__sid=10F170F9C7AE&R=379795&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=3

The SS and sv300 I agree will always lose money and there are not many SV300's around. if I were to buy a new SS it would lose easily 10K in the first 12 months and be as common as a taxi. The SV300 on the otherhand I don't think it would lose 10K and it would still be special. Does this make sense?

I thought SV300 were all tiger mica, i was obviosly wrong. what other colours did they come in?

[BLKCV8]

It's really really simple.

Test drive both cars and you will come to the conclusion that this was a waste of a thread. ;)

More like a waste of a reply:sleep: ....... Moving on, i would try and locate wheels magazine articles, sales brochures ect on the sv300 to try and help you make a decsion. Remember the ve ss will be a common vehicle in 12 months time.

Cheers.

[gasguz]

And your wrong!

Ghosn why dont you relax and bite your tongue. Your input lately isnt overly constructive is it?
Have a think about it. If a guy wants an opinion then why answer with the smartarse comment you did. Your the one wasting everybodys time.

I 2nd this above quote from HRT 8, I thought a forum was a place where questions get asked & answered by like minded people who share the same interests. There are too many people on this forum who go straight into bagging the post if they do not think it is worthy. Was that 5 secs of your time that it took to read the post going to change anything, as obviously you do not have much else on, as you are in front of the computer (just like me at the moment :D ) If you dont like the post just hit the back button to go back into the forum & find a post worthy of your viewing.

On the subject of the post though, go the SV300, IMHO the GTS or the SV300 from the VX range would still do me. I still miss the VXR8 I sold to my brother (but with any luck I will get it back for a steal when he goes to sell it) The SS will be as common as any other car in a few years time & will not have the same presence as the SV300. My poor old pristine VX SS is suffering from this now, it can invisible in a car park (that is until I start her up of course & all heads turn to see what it is :D ) Dont get me wrong the VE SSV is a great car & the flavour right now, but as we see more & more of these on the road over the coming years they will start to blend in. GO THE SV300, or pick up a GTS of the same model. The GTS will still probably be worth more in 5 years when thinking of selling it. Cheers guys :driving:

[Holden Man]

Go the SV300

founds this on http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/HTML/hsv_sv300_vx2.html


The GTS, the ultimate symbol of HSV muscle, has been replaced with the SV300. So what's new, you ask? The VX2 SV300 looks pretty similar to the VX GTS which looks pretty similar to the VTII GTS, and they all have 5.7-litre V8s pushing out 402 horsepower (pretty scary stuff). So, the answer is: not much, but let's go through the features anyway. The engine is the previously mentioned Callaway-developed C4B 5.7-litre unit, which makes 402hp and 376lb-ft of torque. The power goes from it through the 6-speed T56 manual transmission to a Hydratrak limited-slip differential with a final drive of 3.91:1 (this sure sounds familiar). You get 343mm cross drilled and ventilated front rotors and 315mm rears for the brakes, with ABS.

The exterior receives a few touchups: some badges and most importantly, a chrome grille in the lower part of the fascia. All in all, this HSV is still the BMW M5-rattler it should be: it is as fast as the '5 - and even faster in certain conditions such as the Nuergburgring - and more willing for a hard thrash. The steering is very communicative, the car very stable and will pull a very decent 0.85g on the skidpad while throttle-on oversteer is accessible and controllable. The engine and gearbox lag slightly behind the German's in terms of both all-out go power and refinement, but for a price equivalent to less than $50K US in Australia, the VX2 is an unbeatable choice. - by Traian Popescu

0-100 in 5.1sec
1/4 mile 13.3sec

The SV300 has more power and is slightly lighter. I think the VE SS would find it hard to keep up.

[jerrel]

i would be very suprised if i saw any sv300s for sale for less then 35000 by the year 2010. it should hold its value well imho. :thumbsup:

[Oztrack Tuning]

Want a collectors car then go the SV300 thats pretty obvious Sonny's car is a classic and one day might sell like the recent GTHOs and XU1s.

The VE can be modded to be a brilliant car to drive though - my next car will likely be a VE.

[Brass Munky]

Last i heard there was a very clean and well maintained example for sale here in adelaide, in the dark green, was owned by someone i know who traded it on a 6.0l GTO coupe. If i was going to buy one, id be looking at that one, that guy took care of cars like no one i know, if you want any details on it, PM me mate

[csv rulz]

I have an old WHEELS or MOTOR mag sitting at home with the sv300 when it was first released all find it tonight and post what they wrote.

[Duck73]

My brother owns a VX Senator with a nice 222/224 cam and it is a ripper.

The SV300 is not only that (luxury and power), but it is a limited-build car with the C4B - which is a GOOD engine. I am biased though!!!

There are PLENTY of VE SS getting around, but the SV300 is rare and will be a great ride and turn heads wherever you go.

Duck

[csv rulz]

What about the VX Senator 300?

Would you consider that?

http://www.carpoint.com.au/car-review/ce3276.aspx

[Sonnymad]

My brother owns a VX Senator with a nice 222/224 cam and it is a ripper.

, but the SV300 is rare and will be a great ride and turn heads wherever you go.

Duck

Your not wrong there as i was looking at photo's of that senator :),awsome piece of machinery there ! ur also right about turning heads,the last time i drove a car that feels good to drive and turned plenty of heads was my walkie,i regret this to this day that i sold it as i was fool and saw the dollar signs,i was offered almost twice as much as i paid for it,my sv300 gives me the same feeling my walkie used to,its awsome driving ur car with that feeling,and i can tell ya plenty of heads turn ! thats why i have turned down 3 extremely good offers on my sv300,i wont make the same mistake as i did with my walkie....

regards sonny

[VZSS250]

I think the SV300 was a fantastic car in its day, but many of them would be suffering from wear and tear by now. Also, the VX interior is looking very dated these days, despite having been the ducks guts only 5 years ago.

The VE SS is the better buy in my opinion, unless you are very sentimental about the SV300 and you are lucky enough to find a pedantic owner of an original looking example. No point in buying an SV300 if its appearance has been modified for Monaro bonnets, bizarre headlights, aftermarket rims, etc. Only original cars sell well as investments in 20 years time.

[Sonnymad]

I think the SV300 was a fantastic car in its day, but many of them would be suffering from wear and tear by now. Also, the VX interior is looking very dated these days, despite having been the ducks guts only 5 years ago.

The VE SS is the better buy in my opinion, unless you are very sentimental about the SV300 and you are lucky enough to find a pedantic owner of an original looking example. No point in buying an SV300 if its appearance has been modified for Monaro bonnets, bizarre headlights, aftermarket rims, etc. Only original cars sell well as investments in 20 years time.

Ur quote only stands if ur buying as an investment,my sv300 is for my own pleasure and am doing it upto my specs that i like,others may not like it.


regards sonny

[csv rulz]

[QUOTE=VZSS250;801415] Also, the VX interior is looking very dated these days, despite having been the ducks guts only 5 years ago.

QUOTE]


In my opinion the VT-VX interior is till the best designed interior, it may be crap when it comes to quality and panel gaps etc, but personaly i love its design bcoz the dash is more driver focused than the newer interiors and its still very ergonomic.

[vy storm]

It's really really simple.

Test drive both cars and you will come to the conclusion that this was a waste of a thread. ;)



Well jolly arnt you a helpful bloke!! :fewl:

[NickS]

... the last time i drove a car that feels good to drive and turned plenty of heads was my walkie

:hmmm: Was the Walkinshaw REALLY the ONLY other car you have driven that felt good and turned heads ???

IMO it depends what you are after ... daily driver, pick up a well priced 2006 VE ... weekend car, get a mint SV300.

[cosmo vyss]

I would lead towards th SV300. It was a awesome car when it was released and it still can compete with the newer models.
If youare after something that will maybe be an investment then the SV300 is for you. Remeber for it tobe a sound investment you will need to keep the klm's down.

If you are just after a car that will bring you driving pleasure then the VE is your choice.

Its your money and your choice. Take your time before making a decision. Making a rash will end up in you regretting what you purchased.

JB

[Ghosn]

Ghosn why dont you relax and bite your tongue.

Last time I bit my tongue, blood went everywhere :(


Get the VE, it's about driving enjoyment not what everyone else thinks. :D

[vyssbeast]

Ive always thought the VX HSV's have the meanest stance on the road.

Unfortunatly i dont see that in the ve (unless your talking about HSVs, and even then not as aggresive as the vx)

As everyone has said, the sv300 is more a weekender, purely due to wanting to keep the kms to a minimum. If you arent worried bout that then go for it and forget it being an investment, just enjoy what your spending your money on!!

Cars depreciate, and no matter what you choose you will loose money, i guess you are trying to minimise the loss, but dont let it be at the expense of your enjoyment of your purchase.

[csv rulz]

what about a senator 300 or a GTS?

[hdt493]

personally i would go the sv300, awsum car and will still get better resale
than vess in a few years. will turn heads as well. and you know old saying
about how every one has got i {vess}......:sleep:

[calais-346]

"Cars depreciate, and no matter what you choose you will loose money, i guess you are trying to minimise the loss, but dont let it be at the expense of your enjoyment of your purchase."Spot on vyssbeast,dont leave it in the garage just cause your worried about the klms i say.

[shepp0]

I thought SV300 were all tiger mica, i was obviosly wrong. what other colours did they come in?

phantom and racing green.


ill agree with the general concensus, the sv300 is a top car


my old man had one, looked and sounded horn as, and i believe someone on this forum now owns it........................

[Gonadman2]

I haven't driven an SV300, but then I have no desire to drive it. That car is an engine wanting a chassis. Anything from VT-VZ is horrible to drive IMHO, and the Fords have it over any Holden from that era.

I now own a VE SS and its a great drive with a great chassis wanting more engine! Handling is vastly improved over previous generations and this contributes to a much more enjoyable car. If you want people to 'ooo ahh' your car then the SV300 is probably the go, but if you want a driver's car that you can enjoy (and that's what its all about at the end of the day) then my money would certainly be on the SS.

Don't forget that SV300 is nearly 5 year's old, which is getting on a bit now too.

[csv rulz]

[QUOTE=Gonadman2;801504] Anything from VT-VZ is horrible to drive IMHO, and the Fords have it over any Holden from that era.
QUOTE]


Load of rubbish and im sure many guys on this forum would disagree with you, while VT-VZ may not be as nice to drive as VE they are still a very good car in there own right

[throttlehappy]

I haven't driven an SV300, but then I have no desire to drive it. That car is an engine wanting a chassis. Anything from VT-VZ is horrible to drive IMHO, and the Fords have it over any Holden from that era.

I now own a VE SS and its a great drive with a great chassis wanting more engine! Handling is vastly improved over previous generations and this contributes to a much more enjoyable car. If you want people to 'ooo ahh' your car then the SV300 is probably the go, but if you want a driver's car that you can enjoy (and that's what its all about at the end of the day) then my money would certainly be on the SS.

Don't forget that SV300 is nearly 5 year's old, which is getting on a bit now too.

i have a desire to drive one! :driving:
come on who wouldnt

[lowriding]

id go with the SV300 !

[Drewie]

Another vote for the SV300

[Sonnymad]

[QUOTE=Gonadman2;801504]I haven't driven an SV300, but then I have no desire to drive it. That car is an engine wanting a chassis. Anything from VT-VZ is horrible to drive IMHO, and the Fords have it over any Holden from that era.

You gotta be kiding right ? what beer you drinkin tonight ? :hmmm:

[throttlehappy]

You gotta be kiding right ? what beer you drinkin tonight ? :hmmm:

:lol: im drinking beer

[macca_779]

I haven't driven an SV300, but then I have no desire to drive it. That car is an engine wanting a chassis. Anything from VT-VZ is horrible to drive IMHO, and the Fords have it over any Holden from that era.

I now own a VE SS and its a great drive with a great chassis wanting more engine! Handling is vastly improved over previous generations and this contributes to a much more enjoyable car. If you want people to 'ooo ahh' your car then the SV300 is probably the go, but if you want a driver's car that you can enjoy (and that's what its all about at the end of the day) then my money would certainly be on the SS.

Don't forget that SV300 is nearly 5 year's old, which is getting on a bit now too.


Mate you ever even driven a VT-VZ HSV. Probably not with comments like that. Don't get me wrong the VE is an excellent steerer. I drove a VE SS on 20s prior to purchasing my Senator. Test drove my Senator (has optional Performance Suspension BTW) and simply couldn't justify the added price for a VE. And while it doesn't handle bumps as good as the VE I drove, it trades that off with less body roll, superior turn in and comparable lateral grip threshold. O and an SV300 would be amplified again over my car. Plus it has more power better equipment and the fact that its a HSV leaves most owners with a felling of pedigree. I know it does with me anyway. I certainly wont be buying an SS ever again when used HSV products are available for a small cost premium over esentially a V8 kitted base model commodore with minimal extras being an SS.

[SSASSC1]

http://img240.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ve5yk8.jpg

http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=displayimagebp8.jpg

2 pictures of 2 damn nice cars here !!!

Just wish I could work out how to post picks on here correctly ...............

[NickS]

Almost there mate, this is the format ... xxx

Pretty sure it needs to be in capitals :D


I haven't driven an SV300, but then I have no desire to drive it. That car is an engine wanting a chassis. Anything from VT-VZ is horrible to drive IMHO, and the Fords have it over any Holden from that era.

That's pretty funny ... I suppose XR8s are known for their superb balance and world class chassis :confused:

"Anything from VT - VZ is horrible to drive" ... just about the dumbest post I have ever seen on this forum :rolleyes:

[planetdavo]

Hasn't this thread become a little "spirited"!
Hopefully the thread starter has managed to find something out of this. Like every other thread with a similar topic, I expected this to go the HSV's way, which it has. That result was pretty predictable on a forum.
If you go the SV300, make sure it's a low km mint example, as they are a number of years old now, and anything less than a mint example is likely to need a fair bit of work, judging by your comments about the uniqueness and general future value you seek. A high km sh!tter just doesn't appeal to a lot of people. Based on work observations of tyre wear on VE, expect the VX to need twice the number of tyres put on it as well.
Hope you enjoy what ever you buy, but if you are after a daily driver, the VE would be much better to enjoy now and offload in three years or whatever. If you want a weekend plaything "modern classic", go the SV300. Personally though, I think the historical fuzzy feeling attached to the "GTS" nameplate is the more desirable car to own though, as the SV300 was really only a parts bin special HSV produced to keep some sales ticking over late in the VX range, when the VT/VX look started to get old. Whether that means the market in general judges them to be "something special" (translation- worth more), we'll see!

[hsvLS1255]

its a hard choice... both cars are nice but i guess you would have to weight up things like one is new, has warranty, whereas the other is alot more exclusive and may have had a hard life etc...

have you considered on of these

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/HSV/GTS/details.aspx?Model=GTS&__Nne=20&__N=4294965530+0+4294965529+834+285+257&Make=HSV&State=All%20States&silo=1003&state_id=0&distance=25&Cr=3&seot=0&__sid=10FBB8011A92&R=614455&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=27

if only it was the british racing green. that is one colour i think HSC should have in its current lineup.

[Bravotwozero]

Almost there mate, this is the format ... [IMG] xxx [/IMG
"Anything from VT - VZ is horrible to drive" ... just about the dumbest post I have ever seen on this forum :rolleyes:

Ha ha well I'm glad I didn't make it. I save all my dumb questions for the sponsors... anonymously! :lmao:

I've had my VY SS for a couple of months now and I still pinch myself to make sure I'm not dreaming, that she's actually mine. Every time I fire her up I'm like a kid in a lolly shop! I spent 5 hard, long years driving a Hyundai Excel so I could afford one, so very much appreciate it.

Having said that I'm probably not the best person to be getting an opinion from. Especially if VY's are so horrible to drive and I love it. I'd be stoked with either of those rigs. But best of luck with your decision! :thumbsup:

[Greeny34]

Another vote for the HSV .. if it was my money.

You will get pleasure from both cars .. tough choice

[Pickles]

I haven't driven an SV300, but then I have no desire to drive it. That car is an engine wanting a chassis. Anything from VT-VZ is horrible to drive IMHO, and the Fords have it over any Holden from that era.

I now own a VE SS and its a great drive with a great chassis wanting more engine! Handling is vastly improved over previous generations and this contributes to a much more enjoyable car. If you want people to 'ooo ahh' your car then the SV300 is probably the go, but if you want a driver's car that you can enjoy (and that's what its all about at the end of the day) then my money would certainly be on the SS.

Don't forget that SV300 is nearly 5 year's old, which is getting on a bit now too.
" Fords better than anything VT-VZ!!"--Mate, to use a quote I've read before on the forum,--" You've just proved you don't have to have a long neck to be a goose".
Cheers, Pickles.

[CarlFST60L]

I personally think the VE is the car to pic for a daily driver, smoother ride etc For head turning, track work etc SV300

have you thought about buying a VY SS and putting TT's on for around the same money, i will almost garentee you will have a bigger smile for a longer time with a 400kwrw VY SS :thumbsup: My father inlaw has an almost brand new VY SS, always garaged, never really seen rain, never thrashed (he's a pu55y) $32K + $15K for turbo setup and running... If you had a VY SS TT, VE SS and SV300, i would take the VY SS TT any day!

[Red CV8 R]

I know what Gonadman2 is getting at with his chassis comments. However I dont agree completely. Stock FE2 is a bit of a worry and I couldnt live with it in the cars I had but a quick shock and spring change made it a different car to drive. HSVs felt better then the stock V8s but still not that good IMO.

The Holdens allways have good cornering speed; better then the Falcons but were not as nice in the real world (especially crappy Sydney roads) as they were on the race track and the Falcons had a better ride then the Holdens. VE has changed all this and has an excellent chassis in both ride and handling but the stock versions still have a little to much body roll. That is easier to tune out though with a few changes.

[calais-346]

I personally think the VE is the car to pic for a daily driver, smoother ride etc For head turning, track work etc SV300

have you thought about buying a VY SS and putting TT's on for around the same money, i will almost garentee you will have a bigger smile for a longer time with a 400kwrw VY SS :thumbsup: My father inlaw has an almost brand new VY SS, always garaged, never really seen rain, never thrashed (he's a pu55y) $32K + $15K for turbo setup and running... If you had a VY SS TT, VE SS and SV300, i would take the VY SS TT any day!

Thats what i like, people who think outside the box! I have a mate with a vx gts which he bought not long after i bought my vx calais, he paid 30k i paid 20k mine had 70,000 on the clock(18 mths ago) his had 120,000 mines leather and electric everything, his is cloth and only 4 way adjustable seats no dual zone climate either..etc. ive since spent $5000 upgrading drive train $2500 wheels and tires $1000 suspension does 12.6 et's any time owes me 2000 less then his gts and is better in every way unless you like body kits... In the end its about what you want and how much you wanna spend... some times you need to use your imagination

[GASDRX]

Thats what i like, people who think outside the box! I have a mate with a vx gts which he bought not long after i bought my vx calais, he paid 30k i paid 20k mine had 70,000 on the clock(18 mths ago) his had 120,000 mines leather and electric everything, his is cloth and only 4 way adjustable seats no dual zone climate either..etc. ive since spent $5000 upgrading drive train $2500 wheels and tires $1000 suspension does 12.6 et's any time owes me 2000 less then his gts and is better in every way unless you like body kits... In the end its about what you want and how much you wanna spend... some times you need to use your imagination

But he will always get atleast $8000 more than you even with your mods!


VX HSV are still my favourite shape but i would never spend $45gs on one. I would buy a GTS or a SV300 but with higher ks for around $33gs and drive, appreciate and modify it more where the low ks one you wouldn't want to modify or take it out to put ks on it.

[calais-346]

Im not so sure, he had an xrt ute before it, and lost 24 grand in 14 mths of owning it from new, purely because he dosent look after things!!i wont sell my car for 4 years minimnm, im sure ill have my 8g's worth of fun by then!:driving: :nos: :yahoo: I cant see the sense in buying a car based on resale un less you pay big bucks and dont plan on driving it though .Not that i would judge anyone for doing that, live and let live i say:thumbsup:

[Dane VN V8]

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/HSV/SV300/details.aspx?__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1| |pCar_ImageCount_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_Da teTime|1&Make=HSV&State=New%20South%20Wales&PriceMin=20000&PriceMax=35000&state_id=80&distance=25&__Dx=mode+matchany&trecs=17&__Nne=20&__N=4294965530+80+395+444+834+285+257&__Ntk=CarAll&silo=1003&keywords=Manual&__sid=10F11BECCD89&Cr=13&__D=Manual&seot=0&__Ntt=Manual&__Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&R=498729

Good price for a low km HSV if your going to go the SV300

[SSASSC1]

Hey everyone - thanks allot for all your valuable thoughts, comments and advice on this thread.

Just to update you all, I drive a VYSS ser2 and although it has served me very well to date, I'm thinking about getting out of it.

I really do like the SV300, I tend to agree with allot of your comments about getting one and keeping it for a low km weekender. Unfortunately the replacement for the VY will have to be a daily driver as I do about 25,000kms a year. So I really need a car I can pile the kms on with. Also I forgot about the fact with the sv300 would be well and truley ran out of warranty by now. So thats something else to be factored as well

I'm favouring the VE SS, but I want to wait for the series 2 to come out ( Aug 2007 ? ). I'm hoping Holden will fix most of the annoying / electrical bugs out of the current series 1.

I still want the Sv300 though...............AARRGGHH !!!! :doh: .

[VZSS250]

Sounds like the HSV faction on the forum has failed to convince SSACC1. The HSV bias on the forum just wasn't enough it seems.

SV300's don't deserve to be degraded to daily driver status, whereas there is nothing more satisfying than piling up the kays in an SS IMO. Don't bother waiting for Series 2, 8 months is a long time to wait......

[CarlFST60L]

Just TT ur VY mate, if you go for a ride in one and arnt hooked, you will be the first :yahoo:

[Brockfan05]

Mate, the SS would be the go for your needs. And as for electrical problems - mine is a Nov build and so far it is faultless in every way. I think Holden moved quickly to nail the initial niggles the VE's had.

[rodder]

I own a series 11 vy ss also. Before i drove it i looked seriously at a vx gts, imho for something that you drive 25000km every year you are best off sticking with what you have. maybe putting the turbos on it as suggested. The gts and sv300 are both great cars. Like everyone else i say go with what you're insides are telling you. In the end you are paying for it and paying to run them both. Just think which one would being you most joy. Thinking about monetary returns buying a hsv or holden product will only give you heart burn.

[csv rulz]

why not keep the VY SS for the daily dutys and buy the sv300 for the weekends?

[Gonadman2]

[QUOTE=Gonadman2;801504] Anything from VT-VZ is horrible to drive IMHO, and the Fords have it over any Holden from that era.
QUOTE]


Load of rubbish and im sure many guys on this forum would disagree with you, while VT-VZ may not be as nice to drive as VE they are still a very good car in there own right

Ok I knew that would stir a few of you up. I have owned an AU XR8, VT Berlina, VX S, and have also driven VX2 SS, BA XR6, BA GT, BF Typhoon, VE SS. I haven't ever driven an HSV equivalent but from what I have read they do run a different (linear) steering rack which may provide a tangible difference. I vowed never to own a VT based commodore after the Berlina because I absolutely loathed the steering of that thing. I ended up with the VX S because of financial difficulty and needed something cheap to run at the time - which it proved to be.

I will stand by my original statement and say that the Fords have it all over the equivalent holden's in terms of ride and handling/steering. Its pretty clear cut if you have driven a variety of different model's over different roads, and at different amounts of anger. I never said that the VT-VZ were crap car's, I was just saying that the level of steering accuracy and feedback, coupled with the less than great ride made them not as good a steer as the fords.

They have great engines/drivetrains and good mechanical grip, but that does not make them a fun and tactile drive. Plus they look great.

Personally the VE's are a lightyear ahead in term's of everything past the steering wheel, and if you can't appreciate that then perhaps the SV300 is for you.

[planetdavo]

[QUOTE=csv rulz;801512]

Ok I knew that would stir a few of you up. I have owned an AU XR8, VT Berlina, VX S, and have also driven VX2 SS, BA XR6, BA GT, BF Typhoon, VE SS. I haven't ever driven an HSV equivalent but from what I have read they do run a different (linear) steering rack which may provide a tangible difference. I vowed never to own a VT based commodore after the Berlina because I absolutely loathed the steering of that thing. I ended up with the VX S because of financial difficulty and needed something cheap to run at the time - which it proved to be.

I will stand by my original statement and say that the Fords have it all over the equivalent holden's in terms of ride and handling/steering. Its pretty clear cut if you have driven a variety of different model's over different roads, and at different amounts of anger. I never said that the VT-VZ were crap car's, I was just saying that the level of steering accuracy and feedback, coupled with the less than great ride made them not as good a steer as the fords.

They have great engines/drivetrains and good mechanical grip, but that does not make them a fun and tactile drive. Plus they look great.

Personally the VE's are a lightyear ahead in term's of everything past the steering wheel, and if you can't appreciate that then perhaps the SV300 is for you.
Yep, your "live axle" stock AU XR6 with a razor sharp front end and a big, lazy rear end definitely makes any VT or VX feel "horrible"....:lmao:
Every AU owner I've ever known reckon the front end sounds like it's going to fall out after within 20000km from ball joint knock. Very inspiring when having a bit of a "fang"....:shock:
There are pro's and cons to both cars, but to make such a generalised statement deserves whatever flames you get!
There is PLENTY otherwise about the AU-BA that isn't particularly desirable.

[schnoods]

Really depends what you want from the car. Looks? Handling? Something different?

If it will be a daily driver I'd be going a SS as keeping a car like the SV300 immaculate would be near on impossible for me.