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FLI355
28-11-2007, 08:53 AM
Additonally with the Kluger you can't split the third row seating like you can in Captiva and this was one of the main things that got the Captiva over the line with us plus the fact it was 20k cheaper. DVD player is same spot as interior light. The DVD player has an interior light built in though.

Ben (arclight) you seen us around already?

Waughy
28-11-2007, 10:34 AM
Wish that i got the side steps now though.


Yeah the side steps are a must IMO, look a hell of a lot better than without, and help reaching the roof when washing.

I'm using photobucket for pics, upload them then use the image link, just click the link and it auto copies, then just paste into your post on here.

Only drama I'm having at the moment is I can't get the stereo to recognise an MP3 cd, have 2 discs, one with folder format for each album, the other is just MP3's without folders. With both discs in I get a disc error and it moves to the next disc. Made a thread in the car audio section, ringing Holden shortly too.

lou69
28-11-2007, 10:46 AM
The3 kluger is a beautiful car inside and has a very practical set up but l just cant get used to the ugly outside styling. Save about 20 grand on the comparative top spec model and get the lx.

Went and had another look yesterday at the Kluger swaying to the LX. Will keep you all updated with the decision. Hard one to choose. How does everyone find the fuel economy in the LX or comparison the Kluger

XR6T GEN
28-11-2007, 11:07 AM
Thanks for your reply, but please note that I ( not you ) have spent $47000. I have every right to complain as this is not a cheap Barina or Hyundai Accent.

I am aware that other Captiva owners have not the same issues, which is another reason why i am "complaining " .

Please, i ask that people post their Captiva experience only, so i can gauge my rights to " complain " ..


Hey dont bag out Barina or Hyundai, they are good cars with less troubles than a captiva. the barina and hyundai have been out for many years and any issues ironed out, captiva, you are buying a car which even the crash dummies were complaining its uncomfortable to drive.

If there is a pond, and you want to swim in it, dont be the first to dive in head first, thats what you have done with the captiva who captured you.

Waughy
28-11-2007, 12:24 PM
Uncomfortable to drive? Never heard that one before, and no complaints here after 7000k's. As for bagging Barina's, the older, Opel sourced ones were great little cars, had 2 of them. The current one is a Daewoo something rebadged and isn't too good. Hyundai I don't know anything about, other than the excel being a cheap shitheap, something they will have to wait a while longer for people to forget.

CAPTIVALX
29-11-2007, 07:02 PM
Hey waughy how do the wind deflecters work. Do they reduce the wind noise greatly at highway speeds???? Would you recomend them??? Xr6 boy l think youve found the wrong forum.

Arclight
29-11-2007, 07:07 PM
Ben (arclight) you seen us around already?

No mate just having a friendly go :), be a bit slower then your normal rides :burnout:

Waughy
30-11-2007, 05:18 AM
Hey waughy how do the wind deflecters work. Do they reduce the wind noise greatly at highway speeds???? Would you recomend them??? Xr6 boy l think youve found the wrong forum.

Well the weather shields were on the car when I got it so can't compare to not having them, though I don't notice any wind noise doing 100k/hr. I don't drive with the windows down either, always have the air going, so wasn't going to bother with them, the dealer chucked them in to sweeten things a bit, a DVD player would have been nicer, but I'm leasing the car so didn't really care.

pepsav
02-12-2007, 05:57 PM
I'm about to buy a new Captiva and want to fit 20 inch rims, but they're proving hard to find for the current model. I was told that the stud pattern changed halfway through the year.
Does any one know of brands that suit the current captiva or know of a dealer that could help me.
Thanks

FLI355
03-12-2007, 05:15 PM
we have 20s on ours. Got them through tempe tyres.

timmyq
03-12-2007, 09:31 PM
Heya DMCE,
Our other car is a Ford Territory, & she uses 15L/100kms, that said when I look at avge speed I see 35km/h. Shes a big rig, mainly used to go around the shops, so lots of starting & stopping. Personally I'd like to see consumption figures alluding to avge speed to give a better idea of real world consumption. Just a thought... :)

pepsav
08-12-2007, 12:42 PM
we have 20s on ours. Got them through tempe tyres.

Thanks for the advice, I've emailed Tempe tyres 4 days ago (I'm down in Melbourne) so far no response. Will keep looking.
Any way Just picked up my Black LX Captiva and I'm having a new stereo head unit fitted, the Pioneer AVIC HD3, with sat nav, 10 gig hard drive to save music photos etc, TV tuner (that's what happens when you bring kids shopping) DVD, reversing camera and bluetooth.
If anyone is interested I'll post pics of the fitout

CAPTIVALX
09-12-2007, 12:21 PM
Thanks for the advice, I've emailed Tempe tyres 4 days ago (I'm down in Melbourne) so far no response. Will keep looking.
Any way Just picked up my Black LX Captiva and I'm having a new stereo head unit fitted, the Pioneer AVIC HD3, with sat nav, 10 gig hard drive to save music photos etc, TV tuner (that's what happens when you bring kids shopping) DVD, reversing camera and bluetooth.
If anyone is interested I'll post pics of the fitout


Definatly post pics please and a rough price list.:xmas:

CapLX
11-12-2007, 10:28 AM
[QUOTE=Waughy;1080714]Can't say I like the wheels, but each to thier own. Not fussed on the chrome door handles either. Thought about getting the stick on things that are on ebay, glad I didn't. Other than that, nice to see another black beast out there.
Here's mine:

Hi Waughy - nice ride - I like the side steps I'll have to have a think about adding those to my Silver LX. Do you lose much ground clearance with them (not that I do much off-road...but the few times I have I have bottomed out on some ruts and don't want rip off the steps if they protrude down too far).

Just another question - I couldn't quite tell from the pics. Do you have a bonnet protector on? if so, is it the Holden version or from some other maker. How is it anchored on...the Holden version I have is side anchored with clips and then centre anchored to the duco with double sided tape...it worked its way free and vibrated around on the highway and scratched the bonnet. very crap dsign - so i have removed it. If it's not a Holden version then can you tell me where you got it from and how much? Cheers.

EddieVE06
11-12-2007, 10:50 AM
I'm about to buy a new Captiva and want to fit 20 inch rims, but they're proving hard to find for the current model. I was told that the stud pattern changed halfway through the year.
Does any one know of brands that suit the current captiva or know of a dealer that could help me.
Thanks

Pepsav.

I'm not sure where you are based in Melbourne but Ralph D'Silva in Preston have a Captiva in their Window with 20 inch HR Racing Rims. I think they are nice, make it look very Euro.

A pic of what the rims look like below in case your cant make it down there even though they are on a Merc. Am looking into them myself for my VE SV6. Deep Dish of course

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o285/eddieve06/BBMERCL082Ejpg1.jpg

Waughy
11-12-2007, 12:04 PM
[QUOTE=Waughy;1080714]Can't say I like the wheels, but each to thier own. Not fussed on the chrome door handles either. Thought about getting the stick on things that are on ebay, glad I didn't. Other than that, nice to see another black beast out there.
Here's mine:

Hi Waughy - nice ride - I like the side steps I'll have to have a think about adding those to my Silver LX. Do you lose much ground clearance with them (not that I do much off-road...but the few times I have I have bottomed out on some ruts and don't want rip off the steps if they protrude down too far).

Just another question - I couldn't quite tell from the pics. Do you have a bonnet protector on? if so, is it the Holden version or from some other maker. How is it anchored on...the Holden version I have is side anchored with clips and then centre anchored to the duco with double sided tape...it worked its way free and vibrated around on the highway and scratched the bonnet. very crap dsign - so i have removed it. If it's not a Holden version then can you tell me where you got it from and how much? Cheers.


Haven't had it off road so can't say if the side steps make much of a difference, I don't think they reduce ground clearance by any significant value. The bonnet protector is a Holden item, apparently revised, I'll have to look again to be sure, but I think it's anchored above the headlights as well as around the centre, no double sided tape anywhere, I'll get some pics shortly. One thing to look out for, I opened the tailgate the other day and a nut fell out onto the ground, found it come from a bolt on the plastic cover that runs across the top of the tailgate, the bolts go through the tailgate and the nuts go on the inside to hold the plastic shroud down. Found 2 others loose, the one that fell off has fallen off twice, will be getting a mention at the next service.

pepsav
11-12-2007, 05:11 PM
Thanks EddieVE06 for the info and the Pic, they look great. Ralph D'Silva not too far away, definitely worth a drive to check them out.

jaykay
11-12-2007, 05:16 PM
I haven't read every page of this thread but my trusting Holden Dealer is giving a good deal on the Maxx. Anyone have one and can comment ?

The only thing that puts me off is that they are only petrol engines in the Maxx and they seem very thirsty...

I do like the look of the Maxx, very sporty...

JK :)

pepsav
11-12-2007, 06:30 PM
Definatly post pics please and a rough price list.:xmas:

I can't post pics or links on the forum just yet. I've uploaded the pics of the Pioneer AVIC HD3 fit out and some shots of the various menus. Go to photobucket.com and do a search for pepsav, it will ask you. Are you looking for the Photobucket user pepsav? Click here to see this user's album, then hopefully it should show you the pics.

The price was high when all the options were added on. Fitted it was close to $4,500. The unit itself was $3,000, Ipod controller $160.00, TV tuner $500.00, reversing camera another $150.00 or so plus thew little extras for the fascia, can bus for the steering wheel conrols (which they forgot to fit).
I'm very happy with the unit, the navigation is quick due to the 20gig hd set aside just for that purpose. Uses WhereIs as the source and costs around $90.00 to update the Navigation.

teamkiwi
11-12-2007, 07:50 PM
I can't post pics or links on the forum just yet. I've uploaded the pics of the Pioneer AVIC HD3 fit out and some shots of the various menus. Go to photobucket.com and do a search for pepsav, it will ask you. Are you looking for the Photobucket user pepsav? Click here to see this user's album, then hopefully it should show you the pics.

The price was high when all the options were added on. Fitted it was close to $4,500. The unit itself was $3,000, Ipod controller $160.00, TV tuner $500.00, reversing camera another $150.00 or so plus thew little extras for the fascia, can bus for the steering wheel conrols (which they forgot to fit).
I'm very happy with the unit, the navigation is quick due to the 20gig hd set aside just for that purpose. Uses WhereIs as the source and costs around $90.00 to update the Navigation.

Just linked a couple of pepsav's photos onto the page for easier veiwing. Looks the goods mate. Would it have fitted in the area where the trip computer is fitted? Would have look mint in that spot. Also, does the system give a read out of fuel consumption (re: photo 2, Driver dynamics)???

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/pepsav/20071211_IMG_0010.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/pepsav/20071211_IMG_0007.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg17/pepsav/20071211_IMG_0001.jpg

FLI355
12-12-2007, 08:09 AM
Just thought i'd see if anyone else has had problems with the seatbelt alarm going off when no one is in the seat?

Ours has the problem and has to have a whole new passenger seat fitted which holden have no idea how long it will take to get

Waughy
12-12-2007, 11:56 AM
Not a problem for me but I know how annoying it is. I have a dash rattle from around the centre storage bin, the one above the display. Had it looked at last service and they said the found something not done up and fixed it, still rattles but. I'm guessing it's been caused by them removing the panel to fit the bluetooth kit.

FLI355
12-12-2007, 12:06 PM
Well apparently our seat has to come from overseas now and they don't know how long it will take :rolleyes:

pepsav
14-12-2007, 04:51 PM
[QUOTE=teamkiwi;1093369]Just linked a couple of pepsav's photos onto the page for easier veiwing. Looks the goods mate. Would it have fitted in the area where the trip computer is fitted? Would have look mint in that spot. Also, does the system give a read out of fuel consumption (re: photo 2, Driver dynamics)???

[No it doesn't give the fuel consumption just what it shows on the screen, unfortunately the manual is a mini encyclopedia so I'm learning fetaures day by day

Finally got my "BLING" rims, Chromed Zinik 20inch rims with 265 Hankook Tyres. Very happy with the result, now I can go cruzing with my 40+ year old Boys from DA hood.
Posted a few pic on photobucket if anyone wants a squiz. Go to photobucket.com and do a search for pepsav, it will ask you. Are you looking for the Photobucket user pepsav? Click here to see this user's album, then it should show you the pics.

Gianfranco Zola
17-12-2007, 01:30 PM
Took delivery of a diesel LX on Saturday. Its currently in the shop having the hand-break cable re-connected (somehow came off within 15 minutes of driving away from the dealership) and some paintwork touched up (had some minor scuff marks on the rear bumper on delivery).

Anyway, anyone using a window shade (the ones that fit over the door - window sox or other brand). If so, where did you get it form, how much and how well does it fit?

Grazie

KPowSSV
17-12-2007, 01:58 PM
Hi dmce,

I have a captiva LX as well. purchase about 8/9 weeks ago. I have personally found it to be very reliable - I was at first scepticle at buying a re-badged daewoo, but put my confidence in Holden's rep!

I must admit, I have a much different fuel consumption than you. Only done 5,500kms, but the avg fuel is at 10.2 L/100kms! I get approx 520-580kms per tank.

I don't do alot of highway driving, and my wife mainly drives it (I have an SS-V) for dropping the baby off at daycare and onto work, etc. very suburbun use.

Hope this helps, I am honestly happy with the Captiva's performance. oh, and No handbrake issues either! that's a scary one!!

Cheers,
Brian

Just to clarify - Mine is the 2.0ltr Turbo CRD LX

Cheers,
Brian

CAPTIVALX
17-12-2007, 08:40 PM
Had the 30000 service done today and it cost $477 WTF!! Just a normal oil and filter job. The wifes subaru got front/rear diff oil, engine oil, engine coolant, brake fluid, pollen/air filters all changed for that price. Didnt get any of the minor issues sorted that l requested and need to rebook when parts arrive . Then after hearing a few tings on the highway trip home found the underbody protecter hanging off with missing bolts and the other ones just about to fall out. Not happy at all with my dealer and will be onto them first thing to give em a blast. Charge me top dollar price for disgraceful service.

WheelKing
17-12-2007, 09:24 PM
I'm about to buy a new Captiva and want to fit 20 inch rims, but they're proving hard to find for the current model. I was told that the stud pattern changed halfway through the year.
Does any one know of brands that suit the current captiva or know of a dealer that could help me.
Thanks

Stud pattern on Captiva has never changed and has always been 5/115. NJoy Tyre Fitment Guide journal that tyre services rely on incorrectly quotes Captiva as being 5/114.3. Most tyre services as well as dealerships have without correct knowledge supplied 5/114.3 as that is a very common stud pattern.

The one thing for certain is that the wheel studs will bend inwards when wheel nuts are tightened. Final consequence is that either the wheel nuts will work their way loose or the wheel studs will shear. Both run the risk of the wheel & tyre falling of the vehicle. After that, the issue will be between the owner/insurance company/dealer/tyreservice/lawyers.

idavies
30-12-2007, 05:20 PM
I wish I had read this before buying my Captiva Maxx back in August this year. We have had no end of troubles with it - back door nuts fell off, rear parking sensor did not work, extreme fuel use (as above -16 to 17 l/100km and well above what I was told by the sales guy), engine noise in cab, NO GET UP AND GO (my 2.4 ltr Honda CRV gives it a caning and whats more for the amount of fuel it uses it should be rocket powered), losely fitted accessories, rough to ride in (teeth chattering), whiste in roof, roof racks not able to be used due to wind buffeting, accelerator to sensitive - to name some of the issues.

I have spoken to the dealer staff - who just don't care - even when they admit the part is broken it takes the threat of going public to get them to fix it. I have contacted Holden Customer Services - what a joke!!!! That whole dept seems to be staffed with people that think if they can hold out long enough you will go away.

I would think very carefully before buying a Captiva - at least make sure you have a good dealer.

Ian

Aus8
30-12-2007, 09:37 PM
I hate to say it but what do you guys expect when buying a Daewoo?

Waughy
30-12-2007, 10:27 PM
It's not exactly a Daewoo, as in the Barina or Viva league, the concept had quite a bit of foreign input, even from our own designers at Holden. It's actually a Korean built GM vehicle, not a Daewoo that's been rebadged.

Sounds like you got a bad one idavies (every car design has it's share of lemons). I test drove 2 petrol versions and one diesel and they all went well, no noises, great pickup and go. My LX has a slight rattle in the dash but that's where it was removed to fit the bluetooth kit so not really a manufacturing fault, and one that is being addressed. Mine's diesel and is a little disappointing, averaging from 11.5 to about 12.3 consistently, no better than my VZ wagon for the same type of driving. Running on diesel with those figure it's actually costing more than the wagon did. It's done 8,500k's so I'm pretty sure the loosening up stage is done.

CAPTIVALX
02-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Accelerater too sensitive and no get up and go??????? Kinda contradicts itself. Mine just averaged 9.3 for 1000 kays done on holidays the last few days fully loaded with aircon blaring and 6 seats full with 2 kids and four adults. I must be the only lucky one out there. Would love to see your crv pull my work trailer, it'd be on the ground getting dragged backwards hahahahaha!!!!! Just fitted a new cb radio for xmas inside glove box too.

Just wondering if the owner of a nice black lx with plates kikrs6 is on here as he lives around my area and coincedently found myself parked next to him 3.5 hours from home at the back of a target carpark in warnambool. Though it was funny as it's a long way from home.

ggb
04-01-2008, 10:41 AM
I've found it really interesting reading the for's and against's on this thread. My experience after 3 months of ownership is also mixed. Mine is a petrol SX. Fuel use is not the best, about 400-450 k's per tank around town, it has averaged this over 8000 k's. The ride is fine, positive yet firm, it gives a feeling of confidence. The seats are absolute crap for me, after 45 minutes I''ve got a numb bum and I'm wriggling twisting to redsitribute my body weight, if I don't move about I end up pinching a nerve in my lower back that twinges all the way down into my right knee. This is the only car that I've ever had such a damned nuisance issue like this happen. The car looks great, mines in Granada Black, but I've made a real bad choice as far as cleaning goes. We travel on about 5 k's of dirt road at least once day and the vehicles gets filthy, I've found dust residue throughout the vehicle, in all the storage compartments, I think that dust is attracted to the electrostatic effect on the plastic surfaces throughout the car. Would I buy another Captiva? Not in a fit! But, if you want as car that your wife finds great then the Captiva is an ideal vehicle, my wife reckons its great around town, fine for her on the open road, and has lots of nifty storage. Guess I'll just have to put up with the Captiva for the term of the lease, then maybe look at a Territory.

CAPTIVALX
04-01-2008, 06:59 PM
Good to see an honest opinion on your experiences with your captiva ggb. Alot are just over exaggerated loads of bull written by so called owners from other brands. The seats are very flat and have zero cushion or side support but l find them very comfy on the long trips. Mine is pretty good at keeping the dust out and i'm a regular on dirt also, alot better than my previous cars anyway. Would l buy another??? No but only because the new tribeca has been released and i'm a huge subaru fan. Pitty the old one was so ugly when l was upgrading.

HSVMAN
07-01-2008, 10:42 AM
Having worked for the red lot for a few years I know what is good and what isnt so I placed a deposit on a near-new Silverstone Maxx before we went on Holiday.

Out of all the mid sized models it doesnt use as much gas as some and they are all thirsty IMO - especially the CX-7 which I was warned about by the salesperson!
Power is adequate and certainly not lacking and I couldnt convince the wife to go for anything else - and she will be driving it everyday.
If I thought for a moment it would give us problems I would most definately not be buying one

CapLX
10-01-2008, 09:26 AM
[QUOTE=CapLX;1092900]


Haven't had it off road so can't say if the side steps make much of a difference, I don't think they reduce ground clearance by any significant value. The bonnet protector is a Holden item, apparently revised, I'll have to look again to be sure, but I think it's anchored above the headlights as well as around the centre, no double sided tape anywhere, I'll get some pics shortly. One thing to look out for, I opened the tailgate the other day and a nut fell out onto the ground, found it come from a bolt on the plastic cover that runs across the top of the tailgate, the bolts go through the tailgate and the nuts go on the inside to hold the plastic shroud down. Found 2 others loose, the one that fell off has fallen off twice, will be getting a mention at the next service.

Hey Waughy - any chance that you could post a couple of close-ups of your bonnet protector please? I took my LX in for a service and told them about the revised version. They said they had one in stock but when they went to fit it they said it still was the same as the original protector and required double-sided tape to anchor it. They were chasing it up but didn't think it was a changed design at all. If you post some pictures then I can at least show them what it is the should be looking for. Thanks.

Waughy
10-01-2008, 10:06 AM
Will do. Where exactly is yours taped down?

Ok here are the pics of my bonnet protector:

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/Waughy/Captiva010.jpg

There's 2 more screws on the other side and the ends are just clamped down.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/Waughy/Captiva004.jpg

The centremost clips, go under the lip of the bonnet, the protector screwed to the clip.....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/Waughy/Captiva005.jpg

The other end of the clip is held down by the grille.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/Waughy/Captiva019.jpg

The next screw along, pretty self explanatory.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa56/Waughy/Captiva017.jpg

The outer edges, above the headlights. They are just an S type clip that sits over the lip of the bonnet and the protector locks in on the underside. And hang on, might that be a part number?

The only tape used at all is the small strips under the clips so they don't scratch the bonnet. Hope this helps.

Also, the Holden lion emblem is stamped on the top left edge of the protector, directly above where the part number (possibly) is stamped on the underside.

CapLX
21-01-2008, 08:25 AM
Thanks Waughy - That's brilliant. They can no longer deny that the design has changed (and has become cheaper...I paid $280 for mine and now they're $105 (on the Holden website).

The bridge above The Lion badge was where it was taped down...baisically they have now replaced that with the "s" clips you write about. I hope that is the part no. too - that will make it easier to point them in the right direction.

Cheers again. :bow:

FLI355
21-01-2008, 09:13 AM
Well ours is back at the dealer. Seat belt light and chime kept coming on. They ordered a new seat and installed that but now the sensors aren't communicating properly. It's been there a week already. Also getting one of the door mouldings replaced which had a mark in it from delivery.

Waughy
21-01-2008, 09:38 AM
Thanks Waughy - That's brilliant. They can no longer deny that the design has changed (and has become cheaper...I paid $280 for mine and now they're $105 (on the Holden website).

The bridge above The Lion badge was where it was taped down...baisically they have now replaced that with the "s" clips you write about. I hope that is the part no. too - that will make it easier to point them in the right direction.

Cheers again. :bow:

No worries on that, hope it gets sorted to your satisfaction with any damage caused by "thier" way of fitting the protector. So far for me no real dramas after 11,000k's. The wheel arch mould that is fading will cause a stir when it goes in for it's 15k service, I had a nother look and it's the section that goes forward and across the front bar, not the smaller section at the rear of the wheel arch. See how I go there.

grabar
25-01-2008, 08:01 PM
Bought my Lx Captiva 30/10/2007. Initally had power & auto changing problems which the dealer found was a faulty throttle sensor. Most of my regular trips involve a section of steep winding road, involviing some 20k hairpins, the auto was useless & manual was the only way to go. Also on hilly country auto was reluctent to change down. Dealer did update & problem solved. Auto now is completely normal, always selects right gear for the climb which involves backing off for tight corners & accellerating out. On open road gentle pressure on the accellerator will give a smooth change down. After we had done 10000k's performance improved markedly. From other blog sites I gather that most of the problems relate to poor dealer response to problems. Still in relation to other blog sites my Captiva has never pulled to the left , the wheel aligement is spot on, My tyres are wearing normally, rotten egg gas smell does not come inside the car, on rare occassions if the window is down I get the gas smell only at 3500 to 4000 revs in lower gears. The electronics work fine. Fog lights work properly. Petrol consumption calculated by what it takes to fill the tank. H'way at 110 k/hr 10.5 to 11 ltr/100 , Mountain trips 11.7 to 12.2 ltrs/100, Towing a 16" caravan at 90 k/hr 16ltr/100 . Town consumptin which only involves short trips of approx 3 klms 17ltr/100. Overall I am very happy with the car & the service I receive from my dealer.

Bought my Lx Captiva 30/10/2007. Initally had power & auto changing problems which the dealer found was due to a faulty throttle sensor. Most of my regular trips involve a section of steep winding road, involving some 20k hairpins, the auto was useless & manual was the only way to go. Also on hilly country auto was reluctant to change down. Dealer did update & problem solved. Auto now is completely normal, always selects right gear for the climb which involves backing off for tight corners & accelerating out. On open road gentle pressure on the accelerator will give a smooth change down. After we had done 10000k's performance improved markedly. From other blog sites I gather that most of the problems relate to poor dealer response to problems. Still in relation to other blog sites my Captiva has never pulled to the left , the wheel aligement is spot on, My tyres are wearing normally, rotten egg gas smell does not come inside the car, on rare occassions if the window is down I get the gas smell only at 3500 to 4000 revs in lower gears. The electronics work fine. Fog lights work properly. Petrol consumption calculated by what it takes to fill the tank. H'way at 110 k/hr 10.5 to 11 ltr/100 , Mountain trips 11.7 to 12.2 ltrs/100, Towing a 16" caravan at 90 k/hr 16ltr/100 . Town consumption which only involves short trips of approx 3 klms 17ltr/100. Overall I am very happy with the car & the service I receive from my dealer.

CAPTIVALX
05-02-2008, 07:55 PM
Just a report on my captiva that now has 38,000klms and hasnt missed a beat. Tyres have about 10,000 left in the fronts and the rears have about 20,000 on the outside and about 10,000 on the inner edges. Pretty happy with the tread on the rears as it's towed a decent trailer for 35,000 of them. Engine still super smooth, quite and very efficient. Body tight and no suspension or body creaks. Interiour has a few minor rattles from rear doors but if you saw the amount of tools and condition it's kept in 90% of the time you'd forgive a few noises. Paint still shines up as new and hasnt had a polish but will give it one soon. Addsitions have been 2x firestick cb aerials and cb. Soon to be uhf/am and 3 aerials. Also looking at adding side steps , dvd , and ecb bull bar to complete the look. Only damage so far happened today when bouncing my way down a sandy 4wd track the sump gaurd hit a tree root sticking up and cracked it.( my stupid fault for going to fast) Overall still very happy and the more l drive it the more i'm enjoying all it's benefits and features.

loza67
06-02-2008, 09:43 PM
In reply to GRABAR forum on the 25/01/08, who was the dealership that made those adjustments to your Captiva, as i have the very some issues with my Captiva . It might make a difference to my car. DESPERATE. The dealership i,m going to have got no idea how to fix the problem.

Mojo
07-02-2008, 12:39 AM
Petrol consumption calculated by what it takes to fill the tank. H'way at 110 k/hr 10.5 to 11 ltr/100 , Mountain trips 11.7 to 12.2 ltrs/100, Towing a 16" caravan at 90 k/hr 16ltr/100 . Town consumptin which only involves short trips of approx 3 klms 17ltr/100.

Hooley dooley - you blokes are chewin through more juice than us 6 litre VE SS dogs...

Anyone here tried a Captiva on the beach yet ? Would be interested in the results.

CAPTIVALX
07-02-2008, 04:48 AM
The sand l was driving through the other day was the soft sand dune style near the beach so yes it performed extremely well. You never no when awd has kicked in it just keeps on moving when you know a 2wd would have bogged down.

Waughy
07-02-2008, 07:11 AM
Hooley dooley - you blokes are chewin through more juice than us 6 litre VE SS dogs...

Anyone here tried a Captiva on the beach yet ? Would be interested in the results.

That's obviously for the petrol version, my diesel gives around 11 (10.8-11.3 area) for my usual driving to and from work and some running around. Have seen it down to 9.7 on the highway, wasn't a long trip so I think it would go lower than that, maybe I'll find out one day.

On the beach, is that with the road tyres they come with or did you fit some off road tyres?

MCondi
26-02-2008, 04:51 PM
Hi All...

I totally agree re the fuel consumption of the Captiva. I stumbled accross this site searching for just this response. We have done about 12000km's in our captiva after purchasing it in August.

It is my wifes car and as it is on a lease with fuel card she did not notice anything untoward. I have driven it while on leave over the last month and could see that we just managed 300k before needing to refuel.

Because we have a fuel card I managed to get a spreadsheet on the fuel consumption etc and worked it out to be running at 18l per 100k's.

Yesterday I took it back to the dealer and they kept it for the day. They informed me that the reason for the high consumption was the fact that my wife drive's short distances. I drive a 300kw R8 (have always been a Holden man until now!) and get better fuel consumption.

I was contacted today re the fuel consumption and they told me that they have referred it to Holden as they do not build the car.

The stated 11.6 Litres per 100k's is totally incorrect and frankly false advertising.

We have had nothing else wrong with the car however frankly this fuel consumption is concerning.

Thanks

Waughy
26-02-2008, 08:14 PM
While your figure does seem quite high, the stated 11.6 is only for comparison against other makers and models, it is not a figure you should take as being what your car should get. I have an LX diesel and get nowhere near the advertised 8.7L/100k's. I average around 11 per tank, with it going from around 10.5 to 11.3. Sometimes it will be in the low 12's depending on my driving. I average around 550-600k's /tank, sometimes in the high 400's to low 500's when the consumption is up. Fuel type seems to play apart too, my LX doesn't seem to like BP, it goes quite well on Mobil. Haven't tried Shell or Caltex. It's done 13,600 k's, so will be getting it's 15k service shortly, I'll be asking them to reset the ECU and see how it goes from there.

CAPTIVALX
26-02-2008, 09:49 PM
The stated 11.6 Litres per 100k's is totally incorrect and frankly false advertising.


In your case yes but not in my case. I have been driving without a trailer the last few weeks and the most i've seen is 11.5 around town but 90% of the time it's around 10's and 9's on the highway. This is with a few hundred kilo's of tools in the back to so not totaly unloaded. As previously stated though i've only ever used premium which responds well and gives it plenty of go. Nearing the 45,000 service too.

FLI355
27-02-2008, 07:09 AM
We only use premium and average in the mid 12s combined cycle.

Waughy
27-02-2008, 07:41 AM
The stated 11.6 Litres per 100k's is totally incorrect and frankly false advertising.

I was told the sticker is only a guide when comparing say the Captiva to the territory and so on. It's only an average figure from mixed driving conditions and is no real indication of what people should see, though it's not impossible to get the figure, and get it consistently, all depends on how you drive, type of driving, using aircon and so on.


Just found this:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/news/liquid-assets/2006/02/16/1140151801132.html

it's a bit old but gives an idea what the stickers are meant to show, also says they aren't overly reliable. I like the way the Europeans do it.

HSVMAN
27-02-2008, 07:47 AM
The stated 11.6 Litres per 100k's is totally incorrect and frankly false advertising.
Thanks

Firstly, the "sticker" is not put on there by the manufacturer so who's advertising are you referring to?

Secondly, if that really is your consumption, I would check your driving style, seriously.

:confused:

Troll?

loza67
27-02-2008, 04:20 PM
In response to original post regarding fuel consumption. My wife has the LX Petrol model and she averages 17/18/100klms on short trips and averages 15/16/100klms on the highway. I totally agree that it is false advertising and someone should be held accountable. I would not have bought the car if i had know it would guzzle so much fuel, that the reason i sold my Jackaroo in the first place.:vpo:

HSVMAN
27-02-2008, 05:14 PM
In response to original post regarding fuel consumption. My wife has the LX Petrol model and she averages 17/18/100klms on short trips and averages 15/16/100klms on the highway. I totally agree that it is false advertising and someone should be held accountable. I would not have bought the car if i had know it would guzzle so much fuel, that the reason i sold my Jackaroo in the first place.:vpo:

Let me see, if you can find ANY AWD or semi AWD SUV that does constantly under 13l/100 go for it. The new Mazda CX7 is a guzzler, Terri is a guzzler, any other SUV is a guzzler. They ALL are mate

Sorry but hello?

Once more ,they dont advertise fuel consumption on Captiva. Nobody is silly enough to claim fuel figures on an AWD SUV

loza67
27-02-2008, 05:47 PM
So what is that sticker on the left hand side of the windscreen. FUEL CONSUMPTION
Comparative fuel consumption 11.5 litres per 100 km
Comparative Co2 emissions 265 grams per km

This label is applied in accordance with ADR81/01 under the motot vehicle standards Act 1989.

Carbon dioxide is the main greenhouse gas responsible for global warning

Actual fuel consumption and co2 emissions depend on factors such as traffic conditions, vehicle condition and how you drive.


Is this not advertising, and mind you we only use premium fuel and my wife, who drives the car is definately not a lead foot. My argument still stands that someone has to be held accountable, maybe the regulators.

B-REX
27-02-2008, 05:53 PM
This label is only saying that under the test conditions laid out by the relevant ADR regulations, a similar vehicle has recorded fuel consumption and CO2 emission levels of X.

This in no way means that the vehicle will only use this amount of fuel.
It is a comparative thing. Use it to compare with other vehicles tested under the same ADR stipulated conditions.

loza67
27-02-2008, 06:32 PM
I fully understand what you are saying that they are only estimates, but i can recall an ad on the tv advertising the captiva had a better fuel economy than the territory. May be they should break it down Highway driving and shorter trips. I still stand by my argument that the Fuel consumption is misleading and needs to be changed.

teamkiwi
27-02-2008, 08:18 PM
I think you will find that the advert was comparing the the Diesel version to the Terrie, rather than Petrol if i remeber reading correctly

gmh308
27-02-2008, 08:52 PM
Let me see, if you can find ANY AWD or semi AWD SUV that does constantly under 13l/100 go for it. The new Mazda CX7 is a guzzler, Terri is a guzzler, any other SUV is a guzzler. They ALL are mate

Sorry but hello?

Once more ,they dont advertise fuel consumption on Captiva. Nobody is silly enough to claim fuel figures on an AWD SUV

RAV4 2.4 gets about 11l/100k around town. 9l/100k in country. Its slightly worse if the missus drives it.


Anyone interested in the how the ADR figures are arrived at:

http://www.ephc.gov.au/ltec/pdfs/ADR_81_01_Discussion_Paper.pdf

Derived from (?)....

http://www.unece.org/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/r101r2e.pdf

2nd one has some real rocket science stuff in it

Average speed for City test is 19kmh and for country 63kmh.

I would bet some manufactures fine tune the computer/drive train for each market to get a good result in the specific test.

FWIW...

CAPTIVALX
27-02-2008, 09:22 PM
I fully understand what you are saying that they are only estimates, but i can recall an ad on the tv advertising the captiva had a better fuel economy than the territory. May be they should break it down Highway driving and shorter trips. I still stand by my argument that the Fuel consumption is misleading and needs to be changed.


You say it's misleading but i'd say it's over exagerated as mine achieves below the window sticker. So who's right and who's wrong???????? What do you change it to ??"this car can get between 8ltrs and 20 ltrs per hundred depending on your driving style and conditions" Would that suit you more??. Dont tail gate and drive steady without the constant excellerate/brake/excellerate/brake drivng that most driver adhere to these days and watch your economy grow:cheers:

VESSV316
27-02-2008, 09:30 PM
If you are so worried about the economy you should have waited for the diesel version it is a better car

superoo
27-02-2008, 10:22 PM
Yesterday I took it back to the dealer and they kept it for the day. They informed me that the reason for the high consumption was the fact that my wife drive's short distances. I drive a 300kw R8 (have always been a Holden man until now!) and get better fuel consumption.

I was contacted today re the fuel consumption and they told me that they have referred it to Holden as they do not build the car.

The stated 11.6 Litres per 100k's is totally incorrect and frankly false advertising.

As stated, the 11.6 is what they get during an ADR compliant test. If you drove it in exactly these conditions, you should get close to the stated value. It is unrealistic to think the sticker value is what everyone gets. Nothing kills fuel consumption more than short trips and heavy traffic. For interests sake, have you tried swapping vehicles for a week to see what the R8's consumption is in the same conditions? Might be good to make a comparison if you are still thinking there is something wrong with the Captiva. As an example, when I drove my XR6T i'd get around 13-14l/100kms. My wife now drives it and she does many short trips and even though she's lighter on the throttle, the consumption now reads around 18l/100km.

Waughy
28-02-2008, 07:05 AM
If you want around 11L/100k's, get the diesel. Then you'd probably complain that it goes nowhere near the sticker figure of 8.7.

cpnhadok
28-02-2008, 12:13 PM
I also have a major issue with fuel consumption. (3.2 LX) The literature says 11l/100km, I was kind of expecting 13 or 14 but it's closer to 18. Notwithstanding the fact that my wife does short distances, that's bad. I thought I was a Holden man through and through but this has left a really bad taste in my mouth. If you take them to task, count me in.

mickeyVX350
28-02-2008, 12:30 PM
Wow, I am amazed at the absolute stupidity of some people... can't you read back up there where it says "It is not regulted by the manufacturer" so who the hell are you gonna sue? Holden? well they didn't do it did they!!!!

These are GUIDES ONLY and are used just like buying a washing machine or dryer. These should formulate PART of your decision making, and if this is all you are basing it on, you have rocks in your head (which a REAL 4wd can climb)

In saying that, if I go by the logic of some of you, lets get a class action against Westinhouse, couse my Fridge uses more than the stated power when I am trying to chill the a$$ off 8 slabs of beer, and my washing machine uses heaps more water and power when I wash 6 months washing in one load!

Get real!

PS I like tha Captivas and I can't wait for the oil burners to come on the second hand market as I will snap one up!

Danv8
28-02-2008, 12:56 PM
I also have a major issue with fuel consumption. (3.2 LX) The literature says 11l/100km, I was kind of expecting 13 or 14 but it's closer to 18. Notwithstanding the fact that my wife does short distances, that's bad. I thought I was a Holden man through and through but this has left a really bad taste in my mouth. If you take them to task, count me in.

Fuel consumption figures are not meant to be compared with real consumption figures. They just allow you to compare the difference in fuel consumption against other cars on a level playing field.

Avalanche
28-02-2008, 01:38 PM
Those captiva consumption figures make me laugh:lmao: Here i am with a 2+ ton 270kw awd beast, & in the last few weeks i have only been driving the wife & my self to work. Work is only about 3 km from home , so the car is not even warmed up fully, & most likely still on warm up enrichment & it has averaged 17.4 l/100. When i do more driving around town its down to 14l/100 & on the open road it hit high 10s/100. More torque = less throttle needed. I had a v6 triton & the avalanche has always whooped it on fuel consumption. Go a diesel if you want better consumption along with no power.Or better still buy a 6L sedan or wagon. I just checked my trip computer B reading & the ava has averaged 14/100 in the last 8,800km.

Waughy
28-02-2008, 02:43 PM
No power from the diesel? Have you driven one? No complaints about mine as far as poke goes for a 4cyl TD. If i want more I just get the Calais out and go for a spin.

VESSV316
28-02-2008, 03:07 PM
If you stall up a auto Diesel Captiva while holding the brakes then back off the throtle you get a nice little BOV noise very cool lol

dmenace
29-02-2008, 08:36 AM
I'm in the market for a new car purchase. I've driven a Captiva it was a pretty good car and i've driven the last 3 generations of Prado diesels and have been extremely please with them.

But it looks like i'll be going with a 2nd hand Prado over a new Captiva...

The new Toyota Diesel is a rocket...

Waughy
29-02-2008, 09:40 AM
If you stall up a auto Diesel Captiva while holding the brakes then back off the throtle you get a nice little BOV noise very cool lol

There's a vid on youtube with someone doing this, sounds pathetic. I'll never try it.

salkelda
03-03-2008, 11:32 AM
My wife has just purchased a Captiva CX MY08 Petrol and is having an issue with the factory window tinting.

Yes the windows are tinted by only a little. My wife has fair skin and would like the windows tinted with a film from say Solartint.

The issue is that the manual states that you should not apply a tinted film as this will affect the radio reception because the antenna is in the back (FM) and back right (AM) windows. It this true?

I rang Holden and say that if we have any issue with the radio that they might not help us because of the "modification" of window tint.

A couple of other items I don't like are:
- the drivers seat is not as enjoyable to sit in as the front passengers seat. What do you think?
- There needs to be another handle inside the front door on the arm rail. There is a handle but there should be another one because when closing the door the existing handle is in a weird angle

HSVMAN
03-03-2008, 12:38 PM
............
The issue is that the manual states that you should not apply a tinted film as this will affect the radio reception because the antenna is in the back (FM) and back right (AM) windows. It this true?



Should be perfectly fine if you dont use metallic based tints ie titanium

Waughy
03-03-2008, 12:47 PM
Mine's fine, pretty sure it's got a metallic based tint. No issues with reception. Chance you take I guess, if it effects it, remove the tint.

CAPTIVALX
04-03-2008, 04:25 AM
Mine is fine with a dark tint, never had any issues with reception. The door handle is a little far forward for a car with such high doors but it's only a pain on windy days for my wife. Front seat has electrics but passenger doesnt?????

Rizz
12-03-2008, 03:45 PM
Hi, I'm new to the site as I am researching what I can on the Captiva Maxx. Long story short, had a heap of probs since I bought mine, some minor, some major, for example the ongoing fuel consumption issue. Any information you have that may help me would be greatly appreciated. Below I have included an extract from a letter I wrote to the Dealer Principal (where I purchased my car). The service they have provided stinks! I am not finished fighting with the Dealer as certain problems are yet to be fixed, so any added information would be off assistance. Take a look below....

"....and have had nothing but problems since the purchase. Below I have outlined the series of events thus far, that have brought about this letter.

1) Immediately after purchasing the vehicle, I took the car to try and change the numberplates (I have private plates). This was declined, and then I was informed that this was because the salesman had not completed the paper work satisfactorily. I rang the salesman to clarify, then was asked if I could return to Gosnells to have the issue resolved.
2) When buying the car, we also ordered a cargo net to be installed prior to pick up. Upon pick up it was explained there was a delay with the cargo net. I was then rung a couple of days later and informed the cargo net had arrived, once again I had to go to Gosnells and pick it up. When I arrived it was noted that the wrong cargo net had been ordered. From this I requested that the salesman deliver the device when it arrived, to which he agreed. When the net arrived the salesman contacted us and he said it would be delivered on the Friday afternoon, to which we waited all afternoon (as no specific time could be given). The cargo net was not delivered until the next morning! We received no communication to notify us of the re-arrangement.
3) A month or so after the purchase, we began having problems with the ignition barrel. The key was constantly getting stuck in the barrel, leaving us unable to lock the car, nor leave the car as the accessories were on and would drain the battery flat. I called Holden Road Side Assistance to which a mechanic arrived, but unsuccessfully tried to fix the problem. Once again the car needed to be returned, to your service department this time, and once again it was requested that I drop the car off as no personnel were available to collect it. On this occasion I requested a courtesy car be available as we would have had no alternative transport. We were told no cars were available. I then requested that once the problem was resolved, the car be dropped of to a destination that we requested. This also was declined and, once again we had to return to Gosnells to pick the car up.
4) Our latest problem involves the car using substantially large amounts of fuel. It’s advertised to use 11.6L per 100km, on average our consumption is 17-18L per 100km. I am well aware this varies depending on how the car is driven, but I assure you we are not lead foots. After monitoring this with no improvement, I contacted your service department. The issue was explained and it was requested that yet again I drop the car off, as no personnel were available to collect the car, and yet again no courtesy vehicle was available. The car was dropped off on the 21st of January to be looked at, two days later we received a call saying the problem had been found and the issue was resolved. We then went to Gosnells to pick the car up. Since the return of the car, it’s been noted that no improvement has been made on the fuel consumption issue. So, I contacted Rob (Service Department), and have arranged to have the car looked at again. As with the previous problems, I once again requested a courtesy car, and once again was declined. "

The letter continues but I will leave it there. Look forward to the replies.

wrexed03
13-03-2008, 12:40 AM
Rizz i think your over doing it mate.
Items 1 & 2 pretty minor.

Item 1 yeah they stuffed up the paper work stuff like this happens we are all human.

Item no 2 re cargo net yeah they got the wrong one they should have called but they delivered in the end. Im suprised they would do this in the first place.

Item 3 Its a major one if roadside assist couldnt sort it either it gets driven or towed to the dealer but dont expect the dealer to deliver it back to you.
Re loan car generally you need to book 2 weeks in advance and you would have one. Usually they charge but i never have been. I just top it up with the fuel i used and give them the receipt.

Item 4 From what i hear they are heavy on the juice i dont own one just what i have heard. Re loaner if they do have them im sure they would have some process in place so you could use one.

Worst case scenario if convenient you could always try another dealer if your unhappy with this one.

Some dealers provide good service some dont but everyone has their own opionion of whats good and bad. Based on what i have read so far in relation to your post i wouldnt be too worried im sure they will sort it.

You only have the fuel consumption issue to worry about now if it is an issue. The engine still may be tight and needs further bedding in. With in time it may improve.

Hopefully it works out for you.

Regards

HSVMAN
13-03-2008, 06:17 AM
rizz, as already noted items 1 & 2 are pretty minor, more dealer related and could be nobody's fault in particular but they did go beyond their duties to deliver an accessory to you.

#3 yeah thats an issue and I've never heard of it on a Captiva but like any lock assembly in anything, they can break. Lucky you got it sorted.

Fuel consumption is really the only issue for you and whilst some people dont regard themselves as "leadfooted", you dont need to be. Getting the best out of any car, let alone an SUV AWD is a technique.

I know you probably say you shouldnt have to but you can and it works.
Like most other mid-sized SUV's the Captiva is no different with Mazda CX-7 reportedly being the worst.
My better half wants a Maxx and I tried talking her into a V8 because they both use the same amount of fuel around town IMO.

It's a common misconception and you are not alone. There are many disgruntled SUV owners who think they are "down sizing" by not owning a Commodore or Falcon and yet dont see any fuel reduction - mostly more.

Whenever my missus drives my car the fuel usage goes up by at least a litre/100km and she thinks I have a lead foot :)

One last thing, they dont advertise the fuel economy - its an ADR measurement and yes you can get better economy than you are.

VYBerlinaV8
13-03-2008, 08:21 AM
Whenever my missus drives my car the fuel usage goes up by at least a litre/100km and she thinks I have a lead foot :)



I'm in the same boat. My missus drives more slowly than I do, but uses more fuel doing it. I think it's because she's less smooth on the throttle, and uses the brakes more than I do.

Rizz
13-03-2008, 04:08 PM
Hey guys, just wanted to say thanks for the reply, good to get input from other people. Will persue with the Fuel Consumption issue, as said, 17-18L per 100km is still a bit thirsty in my books. Hopefully get it sorted. Thanks again.

Ghia351
13-03-2008, 04:35 PM
Hey guys, just wanted to say thanks for the reply, good to get input from other people. Will persue with the Fuel Consumption issue, as said, 17-18L per 100km is still a bit thirsty in my books. Hopefully get it sorted. Thanks again.What's your average speed showing on the trip comp....just to give you some info from the "other side" try 17.2L/100km @ 21.7km/hr...from a BA Futura wagon....my wife stops and starts and stops a hell of a lot to/fro work in peak hour in an empty car...over the weekend I drove 120 km @ avg of 55km/hr and got it back to 10.6L/100km....often it's all in the driving conditions/method (provided everything else like tune is OK)...then again my VW T5 A6 van is showing a range of 960km after I filled up this afternoon....and it has a kerb weight of 1980 Kg.

FLI355
14-03-2008, 06:19 AM
I checked the wifes Captiva last night and over 7000km the consumption is 12.7L/100km at an average speed of 56km/h.

Not sure why ours seems much better than everyone elses though.

HRT 8
14-03-2008, 07:50 AM
My wifes Captiva is shithouse on fuel. On a recent trip at highway speeds, it was lucky to get 500klm out of a tank. Thirsty mofo.

Waughy
14-03-2008, 11:03 AM
Mine goes in for it's 15k service next week, will get them to reset the ECU and see how it goes from there. My average would be about 11.3 overall, on par with my old VZ wagon, thinking I should have kept it as it's costing more now to run the captiva with diesel being $1.50/L. Maybe after a reset it'll get better, I'd be happy with low to mid 10's for the driving I do, I know I'll never get the magical plucked figure of 8.7, never expected to either so no tears from me about that. Apparetly there's a chip that takes the diesel up to about 135kw as well, not sure if it improves economy though, similar to an edit on an LS1, more go and better economy. Maybe I'll look into it one day.

gmh308
14-03-2008, 02:48 PM
I checked the wifes Captiva last night and over 7000km the consumption is 12.7L/100km at an average speed of 56km/h.

Not sure why ours seems much better than everyone elses though.

Your wife must be a "featherfoot" FLI355. I rode in a Yaris earlier this week with a mates girlfriend and I was stunned how much she was into the accel pedal. Really aggressive without any need to go hard. She defined lead foot. So there can be a big difference. My missus is not a leadfoot, but she is far from a feather touch too.

CHeers.

VESSV316
14-03-2008, 04:42 PM
There's a vid on youtube with someone doing this, sounds pathetic. I'll never try it.

This one lol
YouTube - Holden Captiva Turbo Diesel Dose (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeDJxasEDxs)

Ghia351
14-03-2008, 07:39 PM
I checked the wifes Captiva last night and over 7000km the consumption is 12.7L/100km at an average speed of 56km/h.

Not sure why ours seems much better than everyone elses though.Simple really, at your stated average speed you're actually doing less stop start driving. You're most likely spending a greater portion of driving time at say 80km/hr and higher to achieve that average speed then someone averaging 21 km/hr. Higher consistent average speed means less stop/start, car is in higher gears more meaning lower revs thus less fuel use.

CAPTIVALX
14-03-2008, 07:58 PM
To test my economy out today without the trailer on l gave it a good thrashing , revving out the gears , air conditioner full bore and general lead foot driving. Most l had showing after 30 kays of stop start driving was 13.7. :confused: Highway driving gets me down to 8.7 and about 650 kays out of a tank with two kids wife and luggage. I must have got the direct injection version by mistake:smilesandbanana:

loza67
18-03-2008, 08:49 PM
Captivalx you have done well out of your captiva as i just got 260klms out of a tank and averaging between 16/17/100 klms on short trips, my wife drives the car around town and to pick up the kids from school. I would expect a bit better than what i am getting at least 13/14/100klms.

CapLX
19-03-2008, 10:51 AM
[QUOTE=salkelda;1163223
The issue is that the manual states that you should not apply a tinted film as this will affect the radio reception because the antenna is in the back (FM) and back right (AM) windows. It this true?

[/QUOTE]

Yes I had a problem when I had mine tinted. It was only the AM stations and it was due to the metaillic tint uesd. Basically it stuss the calibration of the AM setting - so you have to adjust the reception by one setting. It is annoying - but you still get the station you want and crystal clear - just not on the reception setting you think it is. I'm not a big AM listener so it doesn't worry me flicking the button one or twice to adjust the reception. FM is pefectly fine.

MT307GTS
19-03-2008, 11:14 AM
my sister bought a Captiva LX and she has never had a problem she bought it in Dec 2007 2 days before xmas and i was driving it for a month while she was on holidays and i drove from granville to north sydney every day and got just over 640kms to a tank.

I was very impressed it felt fun to drive also and had the power when you wanted it

CapLX
19-03-2008, 11:20 AM
Captivalx you have done well out of your captiva as i just got 260klms out of a tank and averaging between 16/17/100 klms on short trips, my wife drives the car around town and to pick up the kids from school. I would expect a bit better than what i am getting at least 13/14/100klms.

At the risk of adding and continuing this saga about fuel usage and parroting all that has already been said. I have noticed those that experience the worst of the consumption are the big city drivers because of the stopping and starting BUT their figures seem to be about the same range - simple really.
Equally the 'leadfoot' theory is a misnoma...I think the Captivas accellerator is quite touchy and throws the revs up to chew the fuel a little too easily. I would say that even though your missuses are "light foot" they're less likely to be as smooth with their acceleration (even though they don't necessarily stomp on it). Case in point - my missus gets 13.5 around town while in the same conditions I get 11.5..I also carefully make use of the cruise control where I can so that I let the computer control the smooth acceleration after 40km/h (the Canberra roads are quite open stretches so I have that luxury). We just did a long trip and under cruise control at 110km/h most of the way we got it as low as 9.1/100.

Oh - don't forget that the readings is for a rolling 50km travelled...so it seems that the figure most of you are talking about isn't always for the whole tank or trip - just the last 50k's - if that helps some of you.

CAPTIVALX
19-03-2008, 08:09 PM
Great to finally hear others getting some good economy out of theres.:woohoo: If you watch your taco when cruising you'll notice any slight acceleration cause's the revs to jump up without the gears changing down. So any slightly erratic driving will be rewarded with high consumption.:moon:

195i Clubbie
20-03-2008, 12:19 PM
POS my girlfriend has one as a company car and i wont get in it

craig_perth
20-03-2008, 08:55 PM
Hey all...

WOW this thread is getting huge... I have been reading it "lurking" Well I have a Maxx MY08... The Rotten Egg Smell I have been told is the heater coil, well the solder on the heater coil, it gets hot and gives off the smell of rotting eggs... My Dealer put in a free "deoderising bomb" to mask the smell... initially they were going to remove the heater coil, clean it, re-paint it and put it back in, but it was to much work so they gave me the smelly stuff to mask the smell... Hope it works, but I can still smell it when the car is working hard.

DOOR LOCKS... Man-Oh-Man this is a problem. 1st time I had the car in the dealer told me there was no recall / no tech notes / no bulitins etc... and as only the sales rep had seen the problem and not a tech he was calling me "crazy" (in a humours way, he did not try to be offensve) so left the yard with a car door that was "working" problem is it works about 10% of the time... Today the door failed again at the window tint place... back at holden (arround the corner) they saw the fault, now there was a holden bulitin saying the screws holding the actuator were to tight (WFT) so they losened them and sent me on my way... Yup you guessed it the door locks are still not working (well working 10% of the time) so now after easter I have to return the car again for the locks to be worked on... Man its really peeing me off!!

anyon else with this issue?

Oh I have 500Kms on the car and the computer shows 18Ltrs per 100Kms...

ajet85
21-03-2008, 12:22 PM
just a tip everytime u take a car to get a fault fixed that should have been sorted out in the past hit the dealer up for a tank of petrol.
I managed to get a few tanks out of subaru when i had a wrx just trying to keep me happy. just went in and said im loosing time from work so i want a full tank and hey presto it was full when i picked it up
but havent had any issues with the ve yet.

craig_perth
21-03-2008, 01:51 PM
Sounds like a good idea... although I doubt the holden yard near me would go for that... the fleet sales rep is awesome... he appears to try and do the right thing... one of the service guys is a dead beat... the lady in service also seems to be tryign to get it solved... we shall see... but at least the customer skills of the fleet sales rep (he is helpng me get the issue fixed) and hte service gal have good pr skills!!!

VCMSWT
21-03-2008, 02:12 PM
Admittedly I haven't read this thread from the beginning, so please excuse my ignorance (in other words, if what I am about to say has been said already).

Fuel consumption issues (with the Alloytec petrol engine) can be rectrified to a large extent with a VCM Suite tune. Typically, we're seeing a nice little power improvement, much better throttle repsonse and as much as 1.5 to 2 litres per 100 km improvement.

Any VCM Suite equipped workshop has the software to tune the Petrol Captiva's.

craig_perth
24-03-2008, 04:33 PM
Mate I like the sound of that... do you kno of any in Perth?

Oh have you done any mods to the cappie?

VCMSWT
26-03-2008, 12:02 PM
Mate I like the sound of that... do you kno of any in Perth?

Oh have you done any mods to the cappie?

WE have tuned the Captiva over here, not sure of anyone in WA.

But as suggested, any shop with our gear can do it. Shop around and see how you go.

craig_perth
26-03-2008, 01:05 PM
Mate what mods have you seen on a cappie? I dont like the air intake setup straight over the engine to the 90 degree dual bends by the air box... but thats only my opinion.

I cant access your profile (not validated enough or something) can you post the URL to your business?

I am interested in modding the cappie and wonderign what people have done or what is possible.

jason phillips
02-04-2008, 08:34 AM
Pepsav, Where did you get the surround for the DVD? I have the same unit to put in mine when it gets here.

jason phillips
20-04-2008, 03:13 PM
Have just done our first long trip in the Captiva. 475km on a dash over 1/2 a tank of diesel. Mostly highway with about 30k of city driving. Very happy. purrs along nicly at 110 and a bit. Has a bit more get up and go than what I was expecting. A ripper of a little car, but I miss the Clubby badly already. The only issue that I have is the light switch doesn't have auto on it. It is a demo model and I was told it is an 08 spec but 07 build. Isn't the MY08 ment to have auto lights? Can it be retro fitted?

Waughy
20-04-2008, 04:00 PM
Guess it depepnds on when it was built in '07. Are auto lights an option or standard on the current models? Personally I prefer not to have it, had it on my VZ wagon and depending on the sensitivity setting, the lights would either go on and off around dark, or would take too long to come on after dark. 475 k's on half a tank sounds very good, I average around 550 from a tank, but that's about 65/35 highway to city style driving, so not too bad, no better than the VZ as I've mentioned before so a bit of a let down there, especially now diesel is at stupid prices, the captiva is actually costing me more on fuel.

izaks
20-04-2008, 09:53 PM
"Any VCM Suite equipped workshop has the software to tune the Petrol Captiva's."

What version of VCM are you using ?
South African Captiva OS ID 92199077
Is this the same as Australia ?

jason phillips
20-04-2008, 10:02 PM
Have now done more than 540k on the same tanke will a fair bit left to go. Want to talk to Doughy about tuning the diesel. When he did my previous 2 clubbies the fuel ecconomy an dperformance went through the roof. Need to see what he can do to a diesel.

Brent Powell
22-04-2008, 02:57 PM
Jeez - and I thought I was getting a bad deal ... and was about to contact Holden

Fuel economy ~ short journeys to work and home (5-10k's) I thought were pretty bad at 12.0/13.0l per 100km. Longer journeys over the weekend (30-50k's) drops down to the 10.5/11.0l per 100k range.

Do a long trip (last weekend 540k round trip - 3 nice trout!!) I'm hitting 9.0/9.5l per 100k and that was at an AVERAGE speed of 98kmh.

Doors - Fine

Electrics - Fine

A/C - very slow to crank up the heat when needed

General - SQUEEKS - Steering Column, Rear Luggage compartment cover, Driver and Passenger sun visors ...:confused:

pepsav
25-04-2008, 08:46 PM
Has anyone played around with the suspension on the Captiva? After fitting the 20 inch rims It just looks too high. I've seen some springs on the Pedders website, does anyone know of other suppliers in Melbourne.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Also after reading through this thread, I've seen people talking about getting performance upgrades on their diesels via a chip. Has anyone done this yet? If so, what are the advantages and disadvantages.

craig_perth
25-04-2008, 09:50 PM
Who is getting the rotten egg smell still? I have just gone over 3,000Kms and still get it at times.... certainly not as bad as it was when new, but bad enough

CAPTIVALX
26-04-2008, 03:29 PM
Who is getting the rotten egg smell still? I have just gone over 3,000Kms and still get it at times.... certainly not as bad as it was when new, but bad enough

Mines done 50,000 now and the only time l get it as from new is when i give it a bit of stick. Had a new climate screen put in and they done a holden upgrade on it and now the fuel reading has totally changed. Previously it would show 9-10 on highway trips and up to 12-14 around town but now it barely moves up or down and sit's in the 13's constantly. Even after doing about 200 kays of totally highway driving without my trailer the lowest it went down to by end of trip was 12.8. Something fishy going on by holden because my kays per tank are still the same as previous. Getting really noisy power steering as well both from inside of the column and from the pump. Apart from that it's still going and towing like a champ.

Waughy
30-04-2008, 07:59 AM
What tyre pressures are you all running, particularly in the LX 18's? Just wondering as the tyre placards usually have some ridiculously low pressure. Have to check mine soon so wanted to know if I should just do them at recommended pressure or different.

jason phillips
07-05-2008, 09:50 AM
Ours is getting better ecconomy that the screen says when you work it out correctly. 2 last highway trips have said 9.4l/100k on the screen but when I work it out at the bowser we are only using around 7.8l/100. Fair difference. Monday did 514k on 40.1L which works out at 7.8 exact. I wonder if there is a calibration you can do to reset the reading.

Waughy
07-05-2008, 10:25 AM
That would be interesting. My average going by the dash is around 11.3. On the current tank I've been going easy on it and it's currently on 10.8 but should come down (did some running around town last night which put it up from 10.4). Might ask about it on the next service, will work it out manually on the next fill too. How did you work out how much fuel, go to the first click on the bowser? Bit harder with diesel as the shit froths up a fair bit and trips the bowser off before it's actually full. Pretty sure my tyres need air too, might do that tonight, see if it helps.

jason phillips
07-05-2008, 08:19 PM
I fill it to the first click, let it settle and then to the next click. You might get a variation of a few ml but stuff all. There just seems to be such a great difference. I would like to run the tank right down. Still havn't got it down the the fuel light. Happy with the ecconomy, not happy about paying 170.4c/l for diesel atm :vpo:. Rip off bastards, charging more for the byproduct than the inital product.

CapLX
09-05-2008, 02:07 PM
Ours is getting better ecconomy that the screen says when you work it out correctly. 2 last highway trips have said 9.4l/100k on the screen but when I work it out at the bowser we are only using around 7.8l/100. Fair difference. Monday did 514k on 40.1L which works out at 7.8 exact. I wonder if there is a calibration you can do to reset the reading.

Just a reminder, and I'm pretty sure from reading the manual, that the fuel economy on the screen is based on a rolling 50km so it's not reset every time you start the engine or fill up therfore it's NOT not working out the economy from all your fuel used nor the kms you've travelled. Obvioulsy then the only "true" average fuel economy is the one you workout yourself.

foylema
10-05-2008, 12:36 AM
I better tell my mate

jason phillips
10-05-2008, 11:00 AM
Cheers for clearing that up. Might have to read the manual a bit more.

pepsav
16-05-2008, 04:43 PM
I've brought some HIDs for my Captiva and was thinking of fitting them myself but after looking at the instructions and pulling apart the headlight assembly, I thought I better get an auto electrician to do it. Does anyone know of an auto electrician near the Tullamarine area in Melbourne? TIA.

mvhs
17-05-2008, 06:03 PM
Hi,

I have owned an LX Captiva for 15 months. It replaced a VT Series II Berlina Wagon. We mainly bought it as a comporable replacement with the bonus of seven seats as we often have an "extra" on top of our family of five.

On the whole we have been pretty happy with the Captiva but I confess I miss the VT which rode better and was more of a drivers car but I couldn't wait until the release of the VE wagon which I must say, looks really nice.

We haven't experienced any of the problems listed above. Yes, it is thirstier than we expected but we still tend to still average around the 12-13l/100km typically. Some of our travel is city but quite a bit is on less congested roads. The only long trips I've had it on have been when towing a tralier full of camping gear. As such the anticipated "better" fuel consumption didn't eventuate. The tarped trailer including roof pod does present an additional wind break though. In saying that though I don't believe anyone ever, or should I say consistently achieves the quoted ADR figures. The current test is a combination of city & highway driving but if as one of the earlier comments mentioned this is actually tested on a dyno then there's no hope of us replicating it.

I've just had the 30k service done and besides neading two new tires the only other thing was a stuffed shock absorber on the rear. I'll look into this further as I've never been happy with the ride, sure it's smooth and quiet but it's a little too soft. I'm not complaining, just commenting, as something like an SS's suspension would suit me better (still reliving my youth there). The ride is a lot quiter now too as when we picked it up we had the roof racks fitted. Didn't they howl when you got a bit of speed up.

Considering what you get for the money I still think it's a pretty good package. Comparable vehicles are more expensive and generally more thirsty.

Oh yes, it did smell (rotten eggs) occassionally but like others this is becoming less frequesnt.


Cheers all.

sslx308
17-05-2008, 11:37 PM
Hi,
Can someone please tell me if the LX Captiva stud pattern is the same as the commodore..
As I want to fit new rims to my captiva..

thankyou

Waughy
19-05-2008, 08:36 AM
Can't confirm, but pretty sure it's different.
Just filled up too, $107 at $1.76/L for diesel, so much for it saving me over the VZ, not to worry, can't do much about it. Anyone want to take over a lease on a diesel LX Captiva? 4-1/2 years left.

dmenace
19-05-2008, 12:39 PM
Sorry not sure if you have posted this already?...

What mileage are you getting with the Diesel?

Waughy
20-05-2008, 06:27 AM
I average round 530-560k's from a tank, takes about 58-60 litres each fill. Depends how I drive it, have had less k's when I've been giving it some, but don't do it now, costs too much. IMO it should have gotten a bigger diesel motor to move the thing, probably would have done better. I got similar economy out of my VZ wagon before the Captiva, was realistically expecting around 650 k's from a tank with the driving I do. Oh well, once the lease is up I don't think I'll keep it.

HappyCappy
20-05-2008, 11:08 AM
Hello everyone!!

3rd time lucky, this one may actualy post, I'm new to this forum & having some trouble, sorry guys!

Recently bought an MY08 Captiva LX Diesel & about to do some mods after doing the first 7000kms in the car, it's time to improve things.

More than happy with the car, no problems what so ever!!

About to fit a performance chip from Berrima Diesel to see how this works. Power claims as follows: 110kW to 136kW & 320Nm to 381Nm - not too bad.

Next is the Mtech fuel saver, but rather than trying to explain this system & benefits, check out the websites below for more details.


DPChip -

Mtech Fuel Saver -


Will post results over the next few months.

Ah finally it worked - WooHoo!!!

Sorry I could not include the web address, probably best if you google "DPChip" & "Mtech Fuel Saver" to find the related websites if you would like to know more about these products which I will be fitting.

Both should assist in fuel saving - currently around 11.3lt/100km, which is not too bad for city driving, but I would like better if it can be easily achieved without too much cost, so far I will be spending a little over $1000, but I do plan on passing this car to my wife as a family car once my lease expires, so we will probably have it for about 8 years, so this expense should easily be recovered over this time frame!

jason phillips
20-05-2008, 12:27 PM
Ours is getting better ecconomy that the screen says when you work it out correctly. 2 last highway trips have said 9.4l/100k on the screen but when I work it out at the bowser we are only using around 7.8l/100. Fair difference. Monday did 514k on 40.1L which works out at 7.8 exact. I wonder if there is a calibration you can do to reset the reading.

As I stated here don't go by the display, work it out in real terms before you knock the fuel consumption.

Waughy
20-05-2008, 12:49 PM
I don't go much by the screen anymore, I've just been comparing to the VZ, same driving style by me, same types of trips (work and running around town), about the same, 520-570 k's roughly each tank and around the 60L mark each fil, give or take up to about 3 litres, moreso give than take. Still not 100% on what to do once the lease runs out, might look more into these fuel saving devices, if they help and I can save some coin that'll help things, a bit more go would be nice too.

HappyCappy
20-05-2008, 04:31 PM
Me again,

Just did a quick work out of my last fuel consumption figures, taking the advice not to go by the screen figures & using 56.90 litres over 563.2kms gives me an average of around 10lt/100kms, so the figures are much better than displayed, but I'm going to continue my current approach which I've committed to testing for both more power & better fuel consumption.

The Mtech fuel saver basically works in a way that it keeps the fuel fresh by preventing the fuel molecules from clumping together, therefore a smaller molecule carries more oxygen to the combustion chamber resulting in more power & cleaner burning.

I know there have been many so called fuel saver devices released in the market over the years, but this one is backed with scientific study & real world testing being developed over the past 10 years, seems pretty impressive what I've seen so far, but lets wait for the tests!

Waughy
20-05-2008, 05:04 PM
Doing rough calcs from my last few tanks, averaging 58-61L and say 550k's, that's around 10.9L/100K's, the display is around 11.4, so a bit of difference but not too much. Filled up on Sunday so will have to wait for this tank to run down then I'll start logging it. Twits at servo gave me the wrong receipt so I don't remember exactly how much it took, receipt only shows I spent $107 :(

jason phillips
20-05-2008, 06:01 PM
Will be very interested in seeing what you gain from these two add ons, chip and fuel saver. please keep us informed. I think you need to test them seperatly though to see which one works best. I hope to get Tuna to tune mine when i can get to Adelaide.

HappyCappy
21-05-2008, 11:01 AM
I would prefer to test them seperately but I have already purchased the chip & will be fitting it this weekend. So I should get a few weeks running (or a few tanks of fuel) prior to installing the Mtech fuel saver which I have committed to a 3 month trial which is due to start any time now.
The trial I've committed to is further study & research for the manufacturer to gain government support, this will include dyno testing & emission testing, prior to fitment & after fitment roughly a month apart from each other. So at least these test results will be documented & factual.

Can't wait to see how it all pans out!!:)

CAPTIVALX
21-05-2008, 08:51 PM
finally got a full tank out without towing and with a mix of 50/50 city highway achieved 535 klms and on filling up took 57.5 ltrs. All this with 200kgs of tools in the back as well. Run on e10 95 blend fuel and now with 55,000klms on the clock. Must say i'm so so glad that l opted for the petrol version as the price of diesel is an absolute joke. When my lease is up it will be a g6e turbo for me.:bow:

Waughy
22-05-2008, 09:13 AM
Can't wait for my lease to run out either, strongly doubt I'll be keeping mine.

HappyCappy
26-05-2008, 07:46 AM
Fitted the DPChip on the weekend, there is noticeable difference in driving! The foot is lighter on the accelerator than before, so I filled up while up the central coast before heading home & filled up again at home & found it only used 10.5 litres to travel the 121.7kms, not too bad for starters, will wait to see results over the next few weeks.
Personally I think for a car this size the fuel consuption is not too bad, if I compared this to fuel consumption of the VUII R8 Maloo I had, this is by far better when doing normal driving.
Also if yu compared with other cars in this range say the Mazda CX7, I know people who are struggling to get 17lt/100kms on a good run & these cars must run premium unleaded, so even with the price of diesel, I'm still in front!

Waughy
26-05-2008, 10:36 AM
How much have you spent all up on the chip and fuel saver? As I have 4-1/2 years to go n my lease I may look at these items to make things a bit easier on the budget overall, and if they go well I may keep the Captiva.

Darren13
28-05-2008, 08:40 PM
Hi Guys,

Have sort of skip read through a lot of this forum..... and thought i might jump in and see if i can be of any help.

I am actually looking at getting a LX Captiva 60th model. Have had a pretty good look at them and the competition - I must admit, the Captiva stacks up pretty well.

You might all be now saying " how the hell do you know, if you dont have one yet"...... Well beleive it or not, I am actually a service advisor for one of the major Holden dealers is Aus. Beleive it or not further, I'm actually one of the ones that enjoys my job and not one of the before mentioned "robots" :)

If i can be of any help finding some answers to questions that you just cant get answered.... post it on here and i'll see what i can do!!

- The problem with the door lock actuator i read earlier.... Not a common fault! I see probably 5-10 captivas a day and havent come accros that problem yet. Yes, the VY & VZ had door lock problems... still do actually! but the CG is a completely different actuator - so they cant be compared! As far as the dealer not replacing it up front ( however badly it was handled ) was the right decision, Holden have really cracked down on their warrant policies - so we just can take the chance of replacing a part without being certain, and the mechanic has to write on the job card ( a legal document ) to say that he HAS faulted the problem.

Hope this answers one question........ next, fuel ecomomy.

You are not going to get accurate fuel readings until you get to around 10,000 kms, as the engines are still running in and the fuel economy reports i have been getting from customers have been elevated early. However, i have a few customers now that have CG deisels that are up to, and over 30,000km's. There are telling me that high 8l/100kms to 9l/100 on the open road is a constant, around town 10.5 to 11 - depending on driving! if your only doing 5-10 min runs to work........ your going to get crap fuel economy not matter what you drive i'm sorry :)

The smelly car issue....... quite simply its a petrol problem! NOT the car - we are getting more and more cars coming through with this problem. Had a vectra that we threw part after part into trying to fix and eventually talked the customer into switching petrol stations... she rang me last week to thank me for being so patient and said that the BP she is now running is not smelling, but it came back the instant she filled up at her local servo!

I would recommend BP or Mobil servo's if you cant put up with the smell, but you will pay more for it!! Myself, I' putting up with the smell at the moment and using my Woolies vouchers!!!

Hope that help a little guys........ plese let me know it i can find out anything for you!

Darren ;)

Darren13
28-05-2008, 08:40 PM
Hi Guys,

Have sort of skip read through a lot of this forum..... and thought i might jump in and see if i can be of any help.

I am actually looking at getting a LX Captiva 60th model. Have had a pretty good look at them and the competition - I must admit, the Captiva stacks up pretty well.

You might all be now saying " how the hell do you know, if you dont have one yet"...... Well beleive it or not, I am actually a service advisor for one of the major Holden dealers is Aus. Beleive it or not further, I'm actually one of the ones that enjoys my job and not one of the before mentioned "robots" :)

If i can be of any help finding some answers to questions that you just cant get answered.... post it on here and i'll see what i can do!!

- The problem with the door lock actuator i read earlier.... Not a common fault! I see probably 5-10 captivas a day and havent come accros that problem yet. Yes, the VY & VZ had door lock problems... still do actually! but the CG is a completely different actuator - so they cant be compared! As far as the dealer not replacing it up front ( however badly it was handled ) was the right decision, Holden have really cracked down on their warrant policies - so we just can take the chance of replacing a part without being certain, and the mechanic has to write on the job card ( a legal document ) to say that he HAS faulted the problem.

Hope this answers one question........ next, fuel ecomomy.

You are not going to get accurate fuel readings until you get to around 10,000 kms, as the engines are still running in and the fuel economy reports i have been getting from customers have been elevated early. However, i have a few customers now that have CG deisels that are up to, and over 30,000km's. There are telling me that high 8l/100kms to 9l/100 on the open road is a constant, around town 10.5 to 11 - depending on driving! if your only doing 5-10 min runs to work........ your going to get crap fuel economy not matter what you drive i'm sorry :)

The smelly car issue....... quite simply its a petrol problem! NOT the car - we are getting more and more cars coming through with this problem. Had a vectra that we threw part after part into trying to fix and eventually talked the customer into switching petrol stations... she rang me last week to thank me for being so patient and said that the BP she is now running is not smelling, but it came back the instant she filled up at her local servo!

I would recommend BP or Mobil servo's if you cant put up with the smell, but you will pay more for it!! Myself, I' putting up with the smell at the moment and using my Woolies vouchers!!!

Hope that help a little guys........ plese let me know it i can find out anything for you!

Darren ;)

Waughy
28-05-2008, 09:01 PM
Manually worked out my last tank, average was 10.5, can't recall k's and what it took right now but. Currently got between 1/4 and 1/2 left, dash is sitting on 10.3, done 21,000k's and the economy figure has come down slightly in the last few weeks. BP I will never use again, tried it twice and both tanks gave very poor economy. Lately I've been going to the 7-11 at Heatherbrae in Newcastle, think they use Caltex, but anyway it seems to be the best fuel so far as far as economy goes, and it's been about 12c/L cheaper than everywhere else, though I've noticed it's catching up, saw one servo with Diesel at 186.9cpl tonight, 153.9 for unleaded, the gap is ridiculous, thieving oil companies, jack diesel up while the eye is on unleaded. I pay for fuel pre tax so that makes it a bit better to swallow the price I guess, probably ditch the captiva for a V8 with decent tune when the lease expires, lol. No big problems with the car so far, I like it a lot. The diesel has plenty of poke, lag is very minimal in mine, very good of the line.

CAPTIVALX
28-05-2008, 09:22 PM
G'day darren great to have you on board. A few points and questions l have for you. Egg smell occurs in my captiva only when the engine is driven reasonably hard. Does not matter the petrol as it happens on everything from bp,shell,mobile,coles,safeway and even e10 ethonol. Premium, optimax, or even regular. Yes i'm a petrol whore and fill up with what ever when ever. 60,0000 klm service is it a major??? Rotated my tyres the other week and noticed that my pads still looked to be as new which after 56,000 and most hard towing kays astounded me. No grind marks or indentations in the rotors at all.:bow: My brothers pathfinder needed them at 40,000. How can l tell if the sls leveling suspension in the rear is working as my rear seems to be getting lower and lower. l constantly carry a few hundred kg's of tools in the back though.

HappyCappy
29-05-2008, 07:25 AM
Re: Waughy: How much have you spent all up on the chip and fuel saver? As I have 4-1/2 years to go n my lease I may look at these items to make things a bit easier on the budget overall, and if they go well I may keep the Captiva.

So far the "Diesel Power Chip" or "DPChip" has cost me $1070 delivered(Trade price! add 20% if not trade).
The Mtech fuel saver will cost me nothing more than some of my time to have the system installed & then record the fuel usage & kms per tank, & a couple of emission tests on the dyno over a 3 month period. But if you look on the Mtech website to fit this system to a car with a diesel engine <6.0lt with fuel tank capacity less than I think 150lt then it cost around $450.

I'm looking forward to more positive results, should be heading to Newcastle (Cardiff) next week to visit our branch up there, so this will be a good open run, the first good long run since owning the car!:cool:

Waughy
29-05-2008, 09:32 AM
Hmmm, wonder if the fuel saver guys want another test car, one without a chip added..... lol, only way I could afford to do my car at the moment.

Darren13
29-05-2008, 11:31 AM
Hi CaptivaLX, yes the 60,000km is a magor for the petrol version, 60k is also a big one for the diesel ..... but they have a bigger service at 80k.
Brakes seem to be lasting really well on the Captiva, seem to be only half (ish) worn at 30-45k services. Has been built for our conditions, event though it is a world wide release!! So unlike the Opel model cars... the brakes should last pretty well.

Darren

CAPTIVALX
31-05-2008, 05:38 AM
Hi CaptivaLX, yes the 60,000km is a magor for the petrol version, 60k is also a big one for the diesel ..... but they have a bigger service at 80k.
Brakes seem to be lasting really well on the Captiva, seem to be only half (ish) worn at 30-45k services. Has been built for our conditions, event though it is a world wide release!! So unlike the Opel model cars... the brakes should last pretty well.

Darren


Cheers, best l bend over when l get there so they can rape me on price. There std service charge is a rip off so l can only imagine what this will be.

Waughy
31-05-2008, 06:51 AM
One good thing about the lease I guess, money is already there for servicings, and it's mainly pretax dollars funding it. Major at 80k, should get there in about 2-1/2 to 3 years, should have enough put away for it by then.
On another note, filled up last night @ 186.9cpl, never thought I'd see the day diesel was over 10cpl more than unleaded, big scam there in my eye. Anyway, 537.3k's, took 52 litres, works out to 9.678L/100k's. I usually put around 60 litres in it but filled up early so I didn't have to worry about it when I have the kids this weekend, probably would have got close to 600k's from that last tank if I'd filled up when the light came on as I usually do. Dash display was showing 10.3, which I thought was pretty good already. Car has now done 21,162k's so it has come down a reasonable amount. If only diesel was still around the 136.9 it was when I got the car.
I thought prices usually got higher during the Northern winter, it's getting around to summer up there, what will happen next winter up there when they start chewing moreresources again? Scary thought.

payaya
31-05-2008, 06:54 PM
Hi CaptivaLX, yes the 60,000km is a magor for the petrol version, 60k is also a big one for the diesel ..... but they have a bigger service at 80k.
Brakes seem to be lasting really well on the Captiva, seem to be only half (ish) worn at 30-45k services. Has been built for our conditions, event though it is a world wide release!! So unlike the Opel model cars... the brakes should last pretty well.

Darren

Obviously european vehicles have softer pads because they require better stopping performance due to their autobahns and stuff.

The Captiva has nothing to do with an Opel? Isnt it made in Korea?

Waughy
31-05-2008, 07:33 PM
What Darren means is that unlike the Opel based imports, ie Astra, and the older Barina and Vectra which were designed for European conditions and had woeful brake wear over here, like pads at 30k and rotors around 60k, the Captiva brakes should fair much better as they have been designed for our driving conditions.

large
31-05-2008, 08:29 PM
Obviously european vehicles have softer pads because they require better stopping performance due to their autobahns and stuff.

The Captiva has nothing to do with an Opel? Isnt it made in Korea?

Used to be made in Korea. They are now made in Thailand, same as Toyota Hilux and Toyotas commercial stuff.

Just bought a Captiva 60th Anniv edition Trbo diesel.

Nearly two weeks in, the economy is sitting on 10.2l/100k. I have done 980k's All city driving. I am happy with that. I am also happy with the power and handling, it really is quite good.

AussieTone
01-06-2008, 10:57 PM
Hi guys

I would be grateful for any comments regarding the ride quality of the Captiva LX. Have seen a few comments / reviews where they state firm ride. If anyone has a 60th anniversary LX I would also appreciate your feedback on the extras e.g. the centre screen and what it actually does.

I have not driven one yet but found (well my back did) that it was so easy / great to just get in and out of the driver’s seat. No bending, lowering etc which unfortunately is now one of my criteria for buying a vehicle.

Do they have passenger car type ride / handling or do they wallow and roll at the slightest hint of a corner.

The other burning question is Diesel V Petrol. Not a big difference in original purchase price but what about in the real world of day to day driving. If I go the Captiva route it will be hard enough after stepping out of a VE SS Auto which followed a VY SS Manual but I don’t want to be blasted by every pimple faced kid on a Vesper 50cc scooter.

Any advice welcome and nearly forgot, any good deals around for the 60th anniversary LX job

Cheers



About to fit a performance chip from Berrima Diesel to see how this works. Power claims as follows: 110kW to 136kW & 320Nm to 381Nm - not too bad.

Next is the Mtech fuel saver, but rather than trying to explain this system & benefits, check out the websites below for more details.


Anything to report in yet. Would be very interested to know. Also for those with the petrol version, has anyone had an Edit done yet.

Darren13
01-06-2008, 11:20 PM
Hi Aussietone, Ride on the captiva is suppringly firm.... not like a VE SS!! BUT, i would actually say less body roll than a VE omega!
I would class them as passenger car ride. :)

The centre screen in the 60th anniversary is actally quite handy. It is a full colour lcd touch screen. So it plays dvd's when the car is stopped and the hand brake is engaged, it also is the screen for the reversing camera, which i think works fantastically well!!! It also has all your trip computer information, climate control and compase etc!

I really like the centre screen set up in the 60th!!

I think dealers are pretty much sticking to their guns on the price of the 60th, but you may be able to get some lee way on the dealer delivery! Use the phone and ring a heap of dealers in your area is usually the best way.

You honestly wont have any trouble taking on scouters in the diesel, once the turbo cuts in they are actually quite spritely for a SUV :)

Waughy, thanks for clearing up the brake issue in my stead!

Payaya, the opels were most recently built in spain! (Europes version of Korea!!) But the barina and viva are both built in Korea now aswell i beleive!
The diesel Captiva is built in Taiwan and both petrol and diesel are built using a suprising amount of Aussie parts.... especially for a world wide release, and yes - our brake package is being used in europe as far as i know.

The 60,000 service is around the $600- mark i think for the petrol and diesel, the 80,000 on the diesel is around $800-
The most expensive part of the diesel service is the oil - around the $130-.

Hope that helped guys,

Darren

large
02-06-2008, 04:49 PM
AussieTone.

I am 6' 6" tall with a knackered back. The Captiva is an excellent car to get in and out of.
The seats are not great but the seating position is pretty good. You will be quite surprised by the performance of the turbo diesel. It is very good of the line and ok on hills, it cruises at 100kmh without a wimper.

The suspension is quite firm on my 60th anniversary edition LX. I handles really well for an SUV.

The 60th anniversary edition is really well appointed. The third row seat is a pisser. Makes the territory look stupid.

The screen is quite good and easy to use. Great for watching movies when the kids are bored. The reversing camera is good as well.

I don't have too much bad stuff to say about it yet except it doesn't run 13's out of the box.

I bought mine really well I think. I paid less than $44k drive away, but I did get national fleet.

CharlieDontSurf
02-06-2008, 09:15 PM
Captiva's are definately not made in taiwan. As reported by someone else and goauto production shifted from Korea to Thailand to meet worldwide demand.

Global demand for GM SUV leads to production shift from Korea to Thailand

By JOHN MELLOR 27 September 2007


WORLDWIDE demand for General Motors’ one-year-old medium-sized SUV wagon, the Captiva, is growing at such a pace that Captivas being built for Holden are to be temporarily sourced from Thailand.

This will allow GM Daewoo to upgrade Captiva production facilities in South Korea.

The move will not affect the Captiva MaXX which is also made in South Korea.

Captivas made in Thailand are sold mostly in Thailand with plans for increasing exports throughout ASEAN markets.

Thai-made Captivas will start appearing in Holden showrooms in about two months and will continue into the New Year when they will once again be sourced from South Korea.

Holden last week announced revised specifications for the Captiva which reflect the Thai-made models. Revised paint colours, for example, are those of the Rodeo which is also built in Thailand.

GoAuto understands that the move is only about capacity problems and is not driven by the free-trade agreement with Thailand.

The Captiva does not qualify for duty-free status in Australia because it does not meet the Thai local content levels mandated by the FTA.

The need to upgrade Captiva production facilities in South Korea after just one year follows unexpected demand for the Captiva, which is proving to be a hit not only for Holden in Australia where the diesel version in particular has taken off, but in Europe where 79,000 were sold as Chevrolets in the past year.

GM sees big demand for the Captiva in Eastern Europe, Russia and the former states of the Soviet Union. They are also now exported to the Middle East and Latin America – a total of 70 countries.

In South Korea, where the SUV is marketed as the Winstorm, 30,000 units were sold in its first year. In Vietnam, where it is locally assembled, there is a waiting list out to 12 months. GM is expecting the Captiva to be in demand in Malaysia as well as Indonesia.

In Australia, the Captiva is selling at about 900-plus units a month to be the third most popular medium SUV behind Ford’s Territory and Toyota’s Prado.

The Captiva’s international success is particularly pleasing for Holden. Holden designer Max Wolff headed the design team at GM Daewoo which developed the car.

Holden engineers also worked on the Captiva over two years to develop ride and handling.

HappyCappy
03-06-2008, 01:26 PM
Quick update to all interested in the DPChip I have recently fitted to my Captiva LX:
So far power increase is noticeable, the foot is much lighter on the throttle than before & I have to be careful not to go over the speed limit (not too much anyway!! ;)

For my normal driving to workwhich is only about a 20km trip, plus other running around to various customer sites, the current fuel consumption is looking to be around 10lt/100km's - not too bad at all! :)

I will be going on a long freeway run this coming Friday, about 450km round trip, so this will be a good test to see how the freeway driving compares with the city driving.

WIll continually add more comments over the coming months just to keep you all up to date how everything is going.

Hope this information is helpful to all you in Captiva land!?!

Cheers for now:cheers:

jason phillips
03-06-2008, 05:34 PM
[For my normal driving to workwhich is only about a 20km trip, plus other running around to various customer sites, the current fuel consumption is looking to be around 10lt/100km's - not too bad at all! :)

What was you fuel consumption before?

HappyCappy
05-06-2008, 06:52 AM
{What was you fuel consumption before?}

Jason, my fuel consumption before was around 11.5~12lts/100kms on average, so there has been some improvement, would probably be better if I wasn't wearing the steel cap boots everyday - they seem to make my foot a bit heavier, "dam those boots!!"

Darren13
05-06-2008, 08:00 AM
Sorry Guys, the Taiwan comment was mine!! middle of the night slip up........ Hey, I know what i meant!! :)

Waughy
05-06-2008, 08:56 AM
$130 for Diesel oil at Holden, what a joke. What brand is it? I always use Penrite oil in my cars, wonder if they'll allow me to buy penrite diesel oil and not stuff the warranty....

CAPTIVALX
06-06-2008, 06:52 AM
$130 for Diesel oil at Holden, what a joke. What brand is it? I always use Penrite oil in my cars, wonder if they'll allow me to buy penrite diesel oil and not stuff the warranty....

My dad has always supplied his own oil at services for all his cars over the years and never had any trouble. As long as it meets the handbook specs then it is fine. It is stupid what they charge as you can get top shelf for less and they would buy in massive drums. I'll be taking the captiva bush today for the long weekend so it should be fun getting it dirty on some good tracks. Hopefully get some nice pics.

Darren13
10-06-2008, 09:47 AM
Yes, you can supply your own oil to a dealer - but make sure the grade is correct! It is a new grade and it is hard to get, Holden dealers cant buy it in bulk yet!!!! Can only get it in 5 litre containers.

Check with a dealer on the correct grade - as the grade listed in your owners manual may not be the correct grade. There is a new page sticker to go into the owners manual on some date range vehicles.

:)

Waughy
10-06-2008, 10:20 AM
Penrite HPR0 is what is recommended on thier website.

Darren13
10-06-2008, 11:14 AM
Penrite HPR0 is what is recommended on thier website.

Yes, that might be what penrite recommend...... but just make sure it is the "exact" same grade as recommended by Holden.
Just to protect your warranty. :)

jason phillips
12-06-2008, 09:22 AM
The genuine oil comes in 6ltre container. Needs to be a SAE 5W40, LOW Ash oil. I can't reed any of the specs as it's written in korean. Valvoline do a 5w30 but not a 5w40.

Waughy
12-06-2008, 09:34 AM
Penrite HPR0 is 0W-40 apparently.

http://www.penrite.com.au/html/s02_article/article_view.asp?art_id=476&nav_cat_id=127&nav_top_id=55

Benboy
12-06-2008, 09:45 AM
Minor complaints:werd:

I would be pissed off if it was my car.
Dealer hands the car over with no hand brake WTF:cussing:
Passenger door becomes unopenable has obvious safety issues and is ridiculous that the dealer has not fixed it, or atleast made reasonable efforts to identify the fault.
You may as well got a VESS as far as the fuel consumption is concerned.

Hope that you didn't pay any Dealer Delivery Fee/Charges/Impost, if so gee they've ripped you off! Sorry, people just have to understand THEIR rights when purchasing new vehicles and NOT pay DD. It's nothing more than a rip-off or as some call it 'Australia's most expensive car wash'. Good luck I hope you get it sorted.

CAPTIVALX
17-06-2008, 06:04 PM
Hey darren just got quoted $700 for the 60,000 service as it needs power steering and ac belts replaced. Does this sound right?? is it that hard to replace a belt???Cheers in advance.

MrWasabi
18-06-2008, 10:51 PM
Hope that you didn't pay any Dealer Delivery Fee/Charges/Impost, if so gee they've ripped you off! Sorry, people just have to understand THEIR rights when purchasing new vehicles and NOT pay DD. It's nothing more than a rip-off or as some call it 'Australia's most expensive car wash'. Good luck I hope you get it sorted.

I just read the ACCC’s Guidelines for Pricing in the Motor Vehicle Industry, top to bottom, and from what i can gather, dealer delivery is considered a mandatory charge on top of the cost of the vehicle.

Laws different in SA?

ShazFly
28-06-2008, 05:00 PM
Hi, have had my LX petrol model since Aug 07, just had my 15K service. Here's what I have found in regards to the problems quoted below.




Firstly, here is my list of problems :

- High fuel consumption

- LH Passenger door not always unlocking

- Slight buzzing noise
- Hand brake

- Safety recall

- Wind noise
- Rough idling

Anyway, i am eager to hear what you other Captiva owners have to say.
Please give your feedback, GOOD or BAD .. We can all benefit from this..

;)

Fuel consumption is 11.65. (based on figures kept btw 1/1/08 and now)

Never had a problem with the door locking, but driver's window used to stick when I first got it - took it back and dealer thought it may have been the tint, they lubed that and sent me away. It happened again, I took it back, they checked the switch and discovered it was faulty - replaced it, no problem since.

No buzzing noise.

Glad I didn't have that hand brake problem! Definitely a worry.

Haven't heard about this one, haven't had to use the fog lamps but will check them out.

Can't say I've noticed wind noise.

Haven't had a problem with idling.

Things I did get have fixed.

Rear stop light assembly (above tailgate)

Noticed it was loose when I was washing it one day. Noticed on another forum a few others reporting it rattling. Turned out to be a missing bolt on inside. Perfect now.

Rotten egg smell

This seems has been noted on another thread, but figure it's worth mentioning here too. Problem is (according to dealer) sulphur levels in fuel other than premium and requires 'revised ecu calibration coming in Sep 08' - perhaps there will be a recall for this??

Drivers seat adjustment

It had become noisy and 'jerky' when adjusting. The threaded drive rod had insufficient grease. They lubricated with silicon based grease 'as per techline'. Fine now.

Whine in steering rack

Lubricated steering rack, good now.

I'm happy with the car and the dealer service, except they charged me extra for a rotate and balance of the wheels. When I got home I checked the service book to find out it should have been included in the service. A call to the service dept. has resulted in the charge being 'credited' to my account. I'll have to remember to check at the next service it is taken off my account.

Hope that helps others.

Shaz

Thank you.

Darren13
04-08-2008, 01:26 PM
Hey darren just got quoted $700 for the 60,000 service as it needs power steering and ac belts replaced. Does this sound right?? is it that hard to replace a belt???Cheers in advance.

If yours is a Deisel then thats about the right price..... didnt realise the belts had to be replaced - but havent gotten that far yet!! :)

If its a petrol its usually around the $600 mark depending on the dealerships hourly rate.

Oh, by the way........ i dont know if its any recommendation, but i just took delivery of my new Captiva. Thats how much i like the product, even seeing them day in day out!

Guys as far as the rotten egg smell goes, there are 2 issues with that - One is Holdens the other is the fuel companies.
Holden is working on a software update that is due to be released next month.
But... there is a lot of deisel out there at the moment with high sulfur - the other thread confirmes that - from what i have heard BP is the best for that .... but also the most expensive :) ( of course!!! )

craig_perth
04-08-2008, 03:09 PM
Hi I havea Maxx MY08 Petrol,
Love it, great car... the sulfur smell is almost all gone... still thier under load or when the heater is cranking... no idea why...

As its the Maxx it runs petrol... I try to run ultra when I can... but does not seem to make a big difference in the smell...

Oh just a question... when rolling, the gearbox chage seems to be rough... has anyone else noticed this?

The wife just took delivery of a brand new Toyota Rav 4 zx6, its a nice car as well :)

B-REX
04-08-2008, 03:17 PM
We have a Captiva in our company fleet that had a similar problem of the "rotten egg smell" during driving.
The problem was traced to a faulty PCM and O2 sensors. Holden changed them under warranty and all is good now.
And the fuel consumption has improved as well.

CAPTIVALX
04-08-2008, 09:36 PM
G'day darren it ended up costing $735 which is a joke considering all it takes is removing the drivers side wheel and inner plstic skin and whallah belt off, new belt on. Would take me all of an hour. Might just go to a local mech from now on unless warranty issues come up. Got my second new power steering rack fitted also and a new exhaust from extractors until mid muffler due to some loose noises inside. The bonnet cable and latch need to be fixed but l think the dodgy holden techs caused this somehow. Haven't had the rotten egg smell for a long time now and doesn't even show up after hard throttle. As far as the car goes after 70,000 kays i'm even more impressed and happy than ever before.

craig_perth
05-08-2008, 01:27 PM
Hey where and what kind of extractors are you using on the captiva? I have been told they are not available???

Cheers

brendanssz
05-08-2008, 02:26 PM
Hi all...
I have started this thread in hope to get some feedback.
I took the plunge back in mid October and bought a new Captiva LX to replace my ageing '97 VT Commodore which was plagued with problems.

At first, i was very happy with the car, but now i am questioning my purchase with possible intentions to get nasty toward Holden.

Firstly, here is my list of problems :

- High fuel consumption

My wife is in no way a lead foot, and drives responsibly with our 2 kids in the car. Our fuel figures are always around the 16 - 16.5 L/100 mark. A long way from the claimed 11.5 L/100 average. The only way i have ever gotten it to this level, i by driving on the Princes Hwy for 45 minutes.
I have spoken to my dealer about this, and i got the usual response : " Every person has different driving habits ".
Whilst i agree with this comment, i find it hard to believe it would increase by 5 L/100. We are averaging about 320 - 350Km per tank. Pathetic for a new car in my opinion. My VP 5.0L was better.

- LH Passenger door not always unlocking

This one started about 6 weeks after purchase. Every now and then, the LH Pass door will not unlock, and cannot be opened from inside or outside the car.
I don't know about you guys, but in my opinion this poses a potential serious safety issue. Again, i raised this issue with my dealer, but they tell me that they cannot ( and will not ) fix the problem unless they can find the actual cause. They did not care about the safety factor.
Also, i have found another post on the drive.com.au blogs, where another Captiva owner had the same problem, but with another door.

- Slight buzzing noise

This is a minor one, but still annoying. When accelerating, you can hear a buzzing noise coming from the engine bay. Almost like the old 'static' noise from old car radios. My guess is that it could be a belt rubbing on something. I noticed this as soon as we drove the car home, but did not notice it in my initial test drive. Will have another test drive before approaching dealer.

- Hand brake

Never worked since new.. at all.. Having it fixed today.

- Safety recall

As far as i was aware, there was only one issue. I was only contacted about this one : The fog lamps need to be rewired to stay on with the high beams.
When i dropped it off this morning, they made me aware of another. A power steering hose problem. I was never contacted for this, but was known about since mid November.

- Wind noise

Maybe i am being too picky here, but other Captiva owners are reporting almost non existent wind noise at high speed.
Not the case here.. very audible. Lower than my old VT, but its there to be heard..

- Rough idling

Very slight vibration can be felt in the cabin due to rough idling.
I don't think its too much to ask for a $47000 brand new car to not have this problem... Should be as smooth as a baby's bottom. I have friends with much older and cheaper cars that do not have this issue.

Anyway, i am eager to hear what you other Captiva owners have to say.
Please give your feedback, GOOD or BAD .. We can all benefit from this..

Thank you.

;)

sounds like uve got the same sorta deal as wat ive got. ive got a vz 05 v8 ss ute that had 20,000kms on the clock whe all the problems were happening n ive had dozens of problems with the car.
the power steering was leakin fluid ask them to fix it they charged me for new o rings this happened 3 times.then on the 4th go the replaced the enitre power steering setup the lines the rack the lot n didn refund me my money.
the tie rod ends crapped them selves n had to be replaced.
3 days after i had it i went to take off from the lights n the clutch slipped n smoked out the hole street.took it down to them n they said the clucth was stuffed replaced it so they say.when pulled up at the lights put it into nuetral then go to put it back into gear cudn n had to push the car of to the side then try take off in 3rd gear to get it home.central locking in the driver door wudn unlock without usin the key to force the lock open took it down to them n they said that it had seized.all the seals around the door cam loose n hung down.n the rubber under the hardtop has all moved n been replace 4 times n is wrecked again also takin the paint of the top of the tray.

all i can say is mate write down everythin that is wrong wit it n wat time it happend then go down n rip em a new 1 or put it on accurent affair cuz there doin stories on top car dealer ships that sell "lemons"n shaming them

canabl
06-08-2008, 08:33 PM
hello fellow captiva owners, i purchased a 08 diesel lx captiva only as i read this forum previously about poor mileage of the petrol variant. What i was not told though when purchasing is that the diesel is only rated at 1700kg towing capacity. Not wnting to pull the butt out of it but towing my car trailer was a breeze over my old myo1 outback 2.5l.
it has just reached 5000ks and averages 12.1 every day driving short trips to school.have not had on freeway yet to test out the consumption.
I could have bought any car due to company write off but i could not go past the value of the Daewoo/chev/holden.
i got 20s put on it and bought bonnet protector from ebay for $40. dark tint to match the blak paint and fitted myself the rear view mirror camera system, 10.4" overhead dvd unit and front parking sensors.add on the HIDEBT plates.
just got the reacall on the mirror indicator and demister wiring fault and not happy with the quality of the leather but with frequent treatment it will stay soft not to crack.
never heard an indicator click so loud in my life and little laggy but in time will source a new turbo system with power in mind.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/CANABL/Newride-1.gif

Waughy
07-08-2008, 11:04 AM
Give it time to loosen up and for yourself to get used to driving it. Mine has 25k on it now, and lag is pretty much non existent once you work out how to handle the go pedal. Leather seems good to me for factory, and my fuel economy is around the 10-10.5 mark. Wish I'd gone 20's, but it's a lease car and i don't plan on keeping it so didn't bother. Anyone interested in taking over the remaining 4 years of the lease? I don't really need the captiva anymore size wise, was looking to go to a commodore sedan but the dealer I went to told me they don't want my car to have to try to resell.

Waughy
18-09-2008, 10:51 AM
Did a trip from Newcstle to Brisbane on the weekend, averaged around 9.9L/100k's, mostly due to lots of slowing for roadworks. Found it goes best economy wise cruising at 90k's, display was showing around 9.7, but once I went over that and into the 100's it got up around 10 again. Didn't pay much attention on the trip up but I managed 720k's from one tank on the return trip, not too bad.

CAPTIVALX
19-09-2008, 06:59 PM
Good to see you still have your captiva waughy. Got my 75,000 service done a few weeks ago, $340 this time around and no warranty issues to note. Car is still running brilliant, paintwork still shines high gloss when washed as if it was new, plastics still tight and nothing falling off. Longevity is standing up excellent and the more l drive it the more l enjoy the drive. Brake pads are still more than half and it's klicked over 77,000 which is almost unheard of in new cars. About to get a second set of tyres though as towing realy wears em quick.

Waughy
20-09-2008, 06:03 PM
Yeah still got it, only because I'm not in a good enough finacial position to cancel the lease and get rid of it. $500 odd I was quoted for the 30k service, made sure I listed everything for them to check out.
Got a squeak in the steering column, more so when it's warmed up, sounds like that metal on rubber tpe of squeak. The APS system only stays on for 3 seconds when you activate it, bit annoying when I travel through an industrial area to and from work that makes the area pretty dusty. Driver's seat motor makes a horrid noise when moving from around half way backwards and the same from full rear to half way, like something is catching in the gears, but I can't see anything. Half way forward it's fine. The grey bumper/wheelarch trims, one of the on the front is going white, like the late 90's barina's did. Couple of other things not so bad. Oh, and the trim under the driver side of the dash has no metal tabs to lock it in so it rattles around, they ordered one about 4 months ago and still no sign of it. Asked when I booked it in and they said there's no record of it being ordered, told them to get onto it. Dash has bubbled slightly on the edge next to the left centre air vent, I'm guessing it's where the pulled it apart to fit the blue tooth module. if they start stuffing around I'll be claiming a new dash. Haven't bothered as it's not really that bad, and I don't want to risk pulling the dash and introducing more noises. It's noted so if it gets too bad they'll replace it, even out of warranty, so they told me anyway. Goes in on Monday, see what they come up with what I've picked on.

dargle
05-10-2008, 09:36 AM
I'd like some advice on my 2007 CX Petrol Captiva.
First up, if the Captiva has two exhaust pipes, why does 90% of the exhaust come out of one pipe (Left). The right pipe looks almost like new and Ive done 25,000 km. There is always condensation coming out of the right pipe and I'm worried about rust. Holden said 'don't worry about it, you can replace it under warranty'. What about when the warranty runs out?

has anyone experienced 'piston slap' when idling cold? Mine has done it since new and Holden can never seem to hear it.

I'm only getting 350 - 370 km out of a tank around Sydney? Is this on par with other petrol models? Long Distance driving isnt too bad. I'm driving Sydney to Perth early next year. Guess that will really test it out!

I'm sick of all the rattles and loose nuts and bolts. The springs rattling in the seat belt height adjustors are driving me nuts! Everyone check the nuts around the rear window. Ive had to use Loctite on mine!

Can anyone find a 'happy medium' with the drivers seat adjustment? I'm 183cm and cant find a comfortable position at all without my right knee locking up.

VW Golf R32
05-10-2008, 11:00 AM
Most Captiva owners I've spoken to are generally underwhelmed with their vehicles. I suspect this to be their expectations of a product wearing a Holden badge not living up to their expectations. Would people's expectations of the Captive be as high if it wore Daewoo badges?

dargle
05-10-2008, 07:01 PM
Most Captiva owners I've spoken to are generally underwhelmed with their vehicles. I suspect this to be their expectations of a product wearing a Holden badge not living up to their expectations. Would people's expectations of the Captive be as high if it wore Daewoo badges?

Totally agree with you there. I guess the only thing drawing buyers is that why would Holden put their badge on a lemon? People are trusting the emblem. Not what its fitted to.

Waughy
30-10-2008, 10:06 AM
I'm not underwhelmed by my Captiva, I like it quite a lot. Had ne expectations until I actually went and looked at, and drove one. It's not faultless but the problems I've had have only been minor, and only a few.

pepsav
31-10-2008, 01:01 PM
I've just had the ECU "flashed" rather than fit one of those chips to gain a few extra horses and some torque and I am very pleased with the results so far. It's a noticeable difference to me, especially when i put the pedal to the firewall, it actually chirps the front wheels (20's) on take off. Fuel economy hasn't suffered it's still around the 10 to 10.5 (when driven sensibly).

FG Turbo Ute
31-10-2008, 11:17 PM
The Deewoooooo is a deewoooo doesnt matter what badge you want to put on it!


I looked at one the other day just out of interest and it isnt in the same class as the Territory, built and designed in Australia for Australia!!

Give me a Turbo Terri with a ZF 6 speed and an EDIT mmmmm :driving: :yahoo:
Correct, don't blame Holden, cos it isn't one, anybody that doesn't buy a car made in AUSTRALIA should be shot.

Terps63
02-11-2008, 10:45 AM
Had a Territory now have a Captiva, not much difference between either have found the captiva an easier more comfortable drive. You get what you pay for.

CAPTIVALX
08-11-2008, 04:56 AM
Correct, don't blame Holden, cos it isn't one, anybody that doesn't buy a car made in AUSTRALIA should be shot.

If that means owning a car that is full of faults that ford refused to fix then good luck to you.( been there and done that with two brand new ford utes) Happy to be shot and driving my captiva which has been excellent.

Waughy
09-11-2008, 06:08 AM
Correct, don't blame Holden, cos it isn't one, anybody that doesn't buy a car made in AUSTRALIA should be shot.

People who make pointless posts should be shot. You don't own a Captiva or know much about them so stay out of this thread. In fact, you don't own a Holden of any sort, so why be on this forum other than to stir trouble?
As I stated earlier, I needed 7 seats at the time, and looked at the territory as well as the captiva, IMO the territory third row is piss poor. My boss has an AWD TX on lease and can't wait to get rid of it, he hates it. And as for fuel economy, if I want to drive something that chews as much fuel as a territory, I'll take my VL for a drive.
And also remember, while the Captiva isn't Australian, Holden's design team had a fair bit of input into the design, and having driven a few Daewoos in recent years, I can say the quality of the Captiva all round is way better.

CAPTIVALX
09-11-2008, 07:39 AM
You don't own a Captiva or know much about them so stay out of this thread. In fact, you don't own a Holden of any sort, so why be on this forum other than to stir trouble?

My tip is l bet he doesnt even have an fg turbo. Ea s pack maybe.

pepsav
11-11-2008, 07:46 PM
Hey Guys,

Had the Captiva lowered all round by pedders, if you want to look at the pics go to photobucket.com and do a search for pepsav, it will ask you, are you looking for the Photobucket user pepsav? Click here to see this user's album, it should show you the pics.
The mods so far 20 inch rims, sunroof, sound system/dvd/navigation, ecu remapped, suspension and hids. Still deciding what to do next, but it will have to wait for next year. Things I have in mind, exhaust tips like the Opel antara on irmscher website and if they're legal in Oz find those LED rear lights like the ones on Photobucket. Search captiva and it will bring up pics by penyubali.

CAPTIVALX
25-11-2008, 09:47 PM
Look'n good pepsav. I'm going the other way, just fitted a new ecb bull bar to mine and in a few weeks get the 90,000klm service done and a new set of toyo open country all terrain tyres fitted ready for some xmas bush bash'n

Waughy
26-11-2008, 06:44 AM
I'm going a different way again to you all. As soon as I can get rid of it I am. Not because I want to, but because the lease is killing me financially. Anyone interested in taking over?

CAPTIVALX
26-11-2008, 07:43 PM
Maybe if you got the petrol version youd be alot better off financialy. Desiel was 36 cents a litre dearer than petrol today. My cost has gone from $90 a fill down to about $60 now.

huggies
26-11-2008, 08:01 PM
Maybe if you got the petrol version youd be alot better off financialy. Desiel was 36 cents a litre dearer than petrol today
his far better off with the diesel motor
they drive great and use **** all fuel compared to the petrol version
either way a good car and a good thread:)
more pics & mods

pepsav
27-11-2008, 08:32 AM
You should put some pics as well captivalx more ideas for everyone.

jason phillips
27-11-2008, 08:35 AM
Just an up date on my LX. Fuel consumption is great on the highway, getting around 750-800k out of about 60l od diesel. works out under 7.5-8l/100k depending on how you drive.

My only problems have been the noisy seat adjustment, and a slight notchy feel in the steering when turning slightly to the left, just over centre, you can notice it more when it is warmed up.

Also, still havn't got around to mounting my reversing camera. Does any one have a picture or where and how they have fitted theirs to the captiva. Gotta pull my finger out and fit it.

Waughy
27-11-2008, 11:38 AM
With the notchy feeling in the steering, do you get a squeak as well, like rubber on metal? I'm getting a similar feeling in my steering, told them about it on the last service but no go.
What tyre pressure are you running in the 18's? I checked mine the other day and they were on 25psi, I checked the tyre plackard and it said 30, which didn't seem much, put 36 in them. Got a flat last night, trying to change it in the dark and alone was fun. have noticed the wheels like to "stick" to the hubs and are a pain to get off. Still happy I went diesel, even though it's now around 50c/L dearer than unleaded, c'mon Rudd, WTF is going on there?

jason phillips
27-11-2008, 05:02 PM
I don't get a noise with the steering just a strange feel. I know what you mean about the wheels sticking. Did a rotation back a bit and they were f'n stuck. Glad I did it not the missus on the side of the road, there is no chance that she would have got them off.

Running tyres at 30psi. Rides well but the dunlop tyres always look like they are flat, you check them and they are at the right pressure, just the style of tyre i guess

Waughy
02-12-2008, 08:14 AM
Got quotes on tyres yesterday as I ran over something that put a nice gash in the side of my left rear. Asked about pressures and was told that 30 is what the maker recommends for comfort, but for better tyre life 40 is a good pressure to run at. Don't know what tyres I'm getting yet, but so far, retail, the Dunlops that are on the thing now are the dearest at $472/tyre, the cheapest is a Yokohama at $340. Still waiting on some other prices and doing some more research to see which is the better tyre to go for, without spending way too much.
Also booked it in to get the reverse sensors looked at as they haven't been working every time the last couple of weeks, and they told me they have some parts to replace from the last service. They need to replace some parts in the steering column as well as the intermediate shaft, so guess there is something wrong causing my steering issue with the squeak etc, they didn't tell me they had to order anthing when I had the service, so I took it there was no problem. It goes in Thursday.

scottbrady1
02-12-2008, 09:36 AM
Hi all...
I have started this thread in hope to get some feedback.
I took the plunge back in mid October and bought a new Captiva LX to replace my ageing '97 VT Commodore which was plagued with problems.

At first, i was very happy with the car, but now i am questioning my purchase with possible intentions to get nasty toward Holden.

Firstly, here is my list of problems :

- High fuel consumption

My wife is in no way a lead foot, and drives responsibly with our 2 kids in the car. Our fuel figures are always around the 16 - 16.5 L/100 mark. A long way from the claimed 11.5 L/100 average. The only way i have ever gotten it to this level, i by driving on the Princes Hwy for 45 minutes.
I have spoken to my dealer about this, and i got the usual response : " Every person has different driving habits ".
Whilst i agree with this comment, i find it hard to believe it would increase by 5 L/100. We are averaging about 320 - 350Km per tank. Pathetic for a new car in my opinion. My VP 5.0L was better.

- LH Passenger door not always unlocking

This one started about 6 weeks after purchase. Every now and then, the LH Pass door will not unlock, and cannot be opened from inside or outside the car.
I don't know about you guys, but in my opinion this poses a potential serious safety issue. Again, i raised this issue with my dealer, but they tell me that they cannot ( and will not ) fix the problem unless they can find the actual cause. They did not care about the safety factor.
Also, i have found another post on the drive.com.au blogs, where another Captiva owner had the same problem, but with another door.

- Slight buzzing noise

This is a minor one, but still annoying. When accelerating, you can hear a buzzing noise coming from the engine bay. Almost like the old 'static' noise from old car radios. My guess is that it could be a belt rubbing on something. I noticed this as soon as we drove the car home, but did not notice it in my initial test drive. Will have another test drive before approaching dealer.

- Hand brake

Never worked since new.. at all.. Having it fixed today.

- Safety recall

As far as i was aware, there was only one issue. I was only contacted about this one : The fog lamps need to be rewired to stay on with the high beams.
When i dropped it off this morning, they made me aware of another. A power steering hose problem. I was never contacted for this, but was known about since mid November.

- Wind noise

Maybe i am being too picky here, but other Captiva owners are reporting almost non existent wind noise at high speed.
Not the case here.. very audible. Lower than my old VT, but its there to be heard..

- Rough idling

Very slight vibration can be felt in the cabin due to rough idling.
I don't think its too much to ask for a $47000 brand new car to not have this problem... Should be as smooth as a baby's bottom. I have friends with much older and cheaper cars that do not have this issue.

Anyway, i am eager to hear what you other Captiva owners have to say.
Please give your feedback, GOOD or BAD .. We can all benefit from this..

Thank you.

;)


If the dealer let it through with all these probs ask him why he shouldn't be paying you the pre delivery fee back?:soap:

pepsav
02-12-2008, 05:01 PM
I've just had the 15,000km service done at a dealership on my diesel captiva. When I got home i had a look at the invoice and noticed that they booked the car as a petrol version. I rang them and pointed this out and asked if this affected my service in any way, they said it didn't and amended their records. Anyway they left a card in the car which said they used a 10w-40 motor oil, the manual says it should be 5w-40. Rang back and they looked at their copy of the invoice and said that the card was filled incorrectly and that they did indeed use the correct oil.
Now after all that rambling is there anyone out there that owns a diesel and has their invoice handy verify that part number GM9374721 is the correct part number for this oil? or there anyway of looking up this part number on the net ?

jason phillips
04-12-2008, 08:30 AM
I have a tin of the genuine oil for the Captive and the part number on the 6l tin is 93743721, SAE 5W40. 1 l is 93743720.

I would be taking it back and getting them to change it free of charge, sounds like they are feeding you BS. If they say no, get an oil test kit, bout $15, and get it checked.

We are only a small work shop and all our oils a bar coded so you can't stuff that up.

pepsav
06-12-2008, 05:56 PM
Thanks for that Jason, I did go back and the service manager assured me that it was only a clerical error, the guys who do the servicing do know the difference between a diesel and petrol engine and so on and so forth.
What does erk me though is that there is a slight "wobble" feel on the steering wheel when going around some corners at a slow speed, I mistakenly mentioned that a friend said it could be that the sway bars might not correctly tensioned, so what did they do, just checked that the sway bars were correctly tensioned and then said on the invoice no problem found. I asked if they checked the rest of the front end and of course they didn't because I said that the sway bars were the problem, I asked if they took it for a drive and noticed the problem, they did but did not notice any problem. You would think in these tough economic times you would go that extra step to satisfy a customer instead of ticking the boxes as per log book and turning over as many cars as you can in a day. This was the first and last time I'm using this dealer.
Having had my previous cars serviced by a now retired old man and his son in a small workshop, the search will be on to find a workshop that you can talk to the guy who services your car and can tell you what's going on with your car.

CAPTIVALX
15-12-2008, 09:23 PM
92000 and now the trouble has started. Always when the warranty is about to run out. The captiva shut down the other day when the alternater failed to give charge causing the car to shut down. The bonnet cable is also stretched and to top it all of noticed this morning after all the rain my drivers side and passenger side foot wells are sopping wet, not damp but wet!!!Dont know where the water has got in but it was parked due to the alternater troubles so i'm stumped. Fingers crossed when it goes in wed that holden can sort it.

Cyborg
16-12-2008, 07:09 AM
I took delivery of a new 60th aniversary LX petrol Captiva about a month ago after reluctantly trading my Commodore SSZ which was not compatible with my kids and holiday requirements (it was just my toy!). So far I am extremely impressed by it, the overall build quality and finish is far superior to the VE SS's that I drive for work. I have only had one minor problem with it in that the trip computer did not hold it's information and kept changing every time I turned the car off. They had to replace the radio to fix it as apparently it contains the trip computer. Other than that, I am very happy though the fuel consumption is a little high which I will put down to it being new and tight.

Waughy
16-12-2008, 09:22 AM
Got mine back the other day after putting it in for the last lot of work it needed. Not sure what was done, but I can hear the engine more now, especially the turbo, which used to be hard to hear, now it's quite noticeable. They did some work on the steering column, I have to call them and see about it. The reverse sensors are still intermittent, and the APS thing still doesn't stay on. To top it off it's started a little habit where, just after starting, if I reverse, then go to drive and try to drive off, it stalls (a diesel, meant to be near impossible to stall aren't they???). I still like it overall, but I'm getting more and more incentive to not consider buying it out when the lease is up. Done around 34.5k.

CAPTIVALX
22-12-2008, 06:45 AM
Got the car back with the alternator regulator fixed. It's a common problem with a service bulletin out on them but only if they fail otherwise they dont do it. Bonnet cable also fixed but they could not find where the water was getting in which is a worry. Just about to take it for a service and some new toyo open country all terrain tyres fitted. :xmas:

CarlFST60L
26-12-2008, 02:47 PM
Hi. The Aps Is Designed To Turn Off Automatically. Read Your Owners Manual To Find Out How It Works

Waughy
26-12-2008, 04:06 PM
Read the manual, it says push the button to turn it on, light comes on. to turn off, push button, light goes out. I push the button the light is lucky to stay on for 3 seconds. I'll ask them about it Monday when I pick my old man up from dropping his car in for a service.

CAPTIVALX
26-12-2008, 09:28 PM
Every time mine has been pressed it stays on until l turn it off. Has been on for more than an hour before.
Got the new toyo open country all terrain tyres on and they are brilliant. 235/65 /17 Which l was worried were to big to fit but they just clear the front suspension and add nearly 20mm of extra ride height. Will test them out up falls creek this weekend on some good trails. Quiet on the highway aswell and rated for 70% on road 30% off mud terrain nice chunky tread.

CarlFST60L
27-12-2008, 08:07 AM
Hi. The Aps Is Designed To Turn Off Automatically. Read Your Owners Manual To Find Out How It Works

My Brother Inlaw posted this, personally I have NFI. I also had no idea he was one of those People That Use A Captial At The Start Of Every Word :lol:

tickedo
30-12-2008, 12:32 PM
Ive had my 60th Anniversary Diesel captiva for about 5000km. Im averaging about 9.2Lper100 and it is dropping so im happy about that.
One interesting problem im having that im interested to know if anyone else has experienced is that the radio has gone to full volume by itself and the reverse camera image stopped for a while but all is ok now.
My main gripe is the "turbo lag" but that my be fixable by a new chip.

Thanks

Waughy
30-12-2008, 01:24 PM
That's good economy, what sort of driving are you doing? I was averaging around 10.3 but the last couple of tanks, since the last service, and it gets as low as 11, so I'm thinking something has been changed there. Turbo lag will become less once the motor loosens up a bit more, plus once you get used to driving it you can help reduce it, but it will always be there. No radio issues here.

tickedo
30-12-2008, 02:49 PM
I work in the city and live 1hrs easy drive from there and the times I work i dont get much traffic. Good to hear about the lag as it is very frustrating sometimes.

another question !

could the front radio / dvd screen be upgrade or modified to be a gps ??

Cyborg
30-12-2008, 06:14 PM
The answer to the GPS question is yes and I believe overseas it is an option. I know my dealer has a subcontractor tech guy who can do it. As for the radio going to full volume, I have never had that problem but my trip computer kept changing it's last setting when the engine was turned off. The radio contains the trip computer and the other controllers for the reverse camera etc so I guess your problems originate there. With mine, they just replaced the radio so I guess they will do the same to you. Apparently there are issues with the computer in the radio that controls all these things.

tickedo
31-12-2008, 06:15 AM
sounds good about the gps, any details or contacts :)

Thanks

Cyborg
31-12-2008, 08:45 AM
It's at Suttons City Holden Rosebery and the subcontractor's business is called JAG he has a website.

CapLX
09-01-2009, 12:26 PM
Got quotes on tyres yesterday as I ran over something that put a nice gash in the side of my left rear. Asked about pressures and was told that 30 is what the maker recommends for comfort, but for better tyre life 40 is a good pressure to run at. Don't know what tyres I'm getting yet, but so far, retail, the Dunlops that are on the thing now are the dearest at $472/tyre, the cheapest is a Yokohama at $340. Still waiting on some other prices and doing some more research to see which is the better tyre to go for, without spending way too much.
Also booked it in to get the reverse sensors looked at as they haven't been working every time the last couple of weeks, and they told me they have some parts to replace from the last service. They need to replace some parts in the steering column as well as the intermediate shaft, so guess there is something wrong causing my steering issue with the squeak etc, they didn't tell me they had to order anthing when I had the service, so I took it there was no problem. It goes in Thursday.

Just 2 bobs for you...I only got 45000ks out of the factory tyres and put on Yokohamas (road tyres more than anything) about 10k Km ago. Bit dissappointed in those - though I got them at a good price (end of FY sale) at about $280 a piece. They're producing a bit rougher ride and they are wearing very bloody quick - though the plus is that they have made steering a bit more precise and reactive (more like a billy cart now than a shopping trolly).

I also had a squeek in the steering column...at the service thay just 'lubed the brushes' (whatever that means) and it seemed to have fixed the squeek. Like others the seat adjuster motor is a shocker and almost sounds like it's going to die when you adjust the seat...also a clunking feel in it like one of the gear drives is missing a tooth!

Interesting about your rear sensors - as that was my wife's excuse when she backed into the brick letter box. I told her not to back up at 60km/h to give the sensors a chance to catchup (and don't yell at the kids while your reversing either)...gee I might have to apologise now!:bow:

Cyborg
09-01-2009, 06:57 PM
Only 45000km from a set of tyres? That's fantastic! I hope I can get that out of mine. It was interesting to read about your squeak in the steering column. I have a type of knock/clicking noise comeing from the right hand side of mine (it's only done 1900km). From reading posts here, it appears there is some sort of problem with the steering columns.

jason phillips
13-01-2009, 02:58 PM
I had my steering problem fixed. they put in a new steering rack and the notchy feel has gone. Mine was a different problem to what it seems every one else is having. Mine wasn't a colum noise, it was a notchy feel in the steering when turning to the left, just off centre. but all good now.

CapLX
13-01-2009, 04:28 PM
Only 45000km from a set of tyres? That's fantastic! I hope I can get that out of mine. It was interesting to read about your squeak in the steering column. I have a type of knock/clicking noise comeing from the right hand side of mine (it's only done 1900km). From reading posts here, it appears there is some sort of problem with the steering columns.

I guess I should be grateful then...though the tyre service bloke reckons you should get 50+ from them...I used to get about 50 out of the VY11 S tyres. But I guess with the heavy Captiva it's not too bad...especially after talking to a mate with a Caprice that only get 25-30 from a set!.

Cyborg
16-01-2009, 07:00 PM
JUst got back from a 1400km trip to the Snow Mountains in my petrol 60th anniversary Captiva. Firstly I was quite happy with the fuel consumption which averaged 11.8 litres per 100km which involved highway driving, light off road driving, some very steep hills and harsh accerlerating for overtaking. With only 3000km on the clock and still fairly new I thought this was pretty good and close to the advertised figures. This is the actual figures and not from the trip comupter that overstated these figures by about 1L/100km.

On the soft road stuff It was very fun to drive and was very hard to lose control of. The stability control kicked in(which I induced it to do!) a number of times and was very effective. Without being an idiot I found it near impossible to totally lose control of the vehicle.

My only gripes with the vehicle at this stage is the inaccurate trip computer and the compass which keeps getting out of calibration showing south when going north and vice versa. There is also a strange clicking and vibration from the steering column. Also on long steep hills at highway sppeds the gearing seems a little tall where the gearbox in auto mode keeps searching for a gear. I put it into 'manual mode' when this happened.:jester:

FLI355
16-01-2009, 07:39 PM
yeah I have to use manual mode a lot when going to the snow too. I especially find when using cruise control it won't change back to 5th. I.e. after kicking down to go up a hill then when you reach the crest it stays if 4th for ages so I have to kick it back up to 5th myself.

EL2
16-01-2009, 09:31 PM
Still very happy with our Captiva LX diesel, which is predominantly the wife's child mover. Done about 25k since April 08. I have only these complaints/reservations :

- 15k service - wrong grade of oil listed on receipt (poster above also had this). Got same 'clerical' excuse and that the 19yo apprentice of course knew which oil to use :confused:

- Infamous turbo lag off idle. It's funny, maybe it depends on my mood? Or whether I'm facing Mecca. Sometimes I'll plant it and it'll whoosh off like nothing else. This makes the kids laugh and say "Dad, go faster". Other times, it feels as if you plant it, and it waits for 10 seconds before we get mobile. Weird.

- Economy is nowhere near what I expected. Average 10.7 or so around town, and between 9 and 10 when on a long highway trip. Thought I'd get better than this to be honest, especially the highway economy.

- The headlights on high beam are absolutely abysmal, there's not much difference between normal and high. This took me by surprise, maybe I'm used to the SS's lights which are brilliant. I may get a nudge bar and fit some supplementary lights.

- Auto in 'D' holds 3rd gear at 60km/h. Really needs to be in 4th in average driving conditions (ie not too hilly). Same for 80km/h when it holds 4th gear and I reckon it should be in 5th. Popping it into manual mode overcomes this.

Will I keep it when it comes off lease (like I did with the SS) - at this stage, yes, I can live with the above. Reckon it's build quality is brilliant and no other issues at all.

FLI355
17-01-2009, 08:07 AM
That's strange, ours whilst cruising at even 50 and above will be in 5th when in "D"

Waughy
18-01-2009, 06:48 PM
Cleaned mine today, found a nice 12mm spanner under the driver side floor mat. Open ender and ratchet ring. Thanks Holden. Guess they don't clear thier tools after a job. Not going to call them about it either, it's mine now.

tickedo
19-01-2009, 08:46 AM
EL2 your points make interesting reading, i totally agree with you on the turbo lag. I find it mainly happens when slowing down then taking off, you get nothing then it comes on. There must be a work around for this as it can be dangerous at times when you think there is enough room to go then nothing :(

Mine will also be in 5th cruising at 60ish !!

Only other thing for me is the radio/info unit has a mind of its own and resets when it wants to.

Oh and I still cant work out how to burn a MP3 disc with folders that it will read ??

EL2
19-01-2009, 02:58 PM
EL2 your points make interesting reading, i totally agree with you on the turbo lag. I find it mainly happens when slowing down then taking off, you get nothing then it comes on. There must be a work around for this as it can be dangerous at times when you think there is enough room to go then nothing :(

Mine will also be in 5th cruising at 60ish !!

Only other thing for me is the radio/info unit has a mind of its own and resets when it wants to.

Oh and I still cant work out how to burn a MP3 disc with folders that it will read ??

Interesting that both you and FLI355's Captiva's happily go into 4th and 5th gear at 60! I'll mention this to the dealer at the next service, maybe it's a software thing - I imagine the shift point is computer controlled?? Dunno...

Haven't ever had the radio reset, although on the first day of owning the Captiva, one of the buttons pushed in and subsequently the dealer fitted another unit.

The only MP3's I've made are of the kids music and talking books, I just used Nero and the folders work as expected. Did you create the equivalent of an 'Audio CD' (rather than a 'data CD') and close off the disc? I think that's what you need to do...

tickedo
22-01-2009, 08:02 AM
ok, you were right i was using data disc and not closing it !!

On the lag issue, I took it to a dealer the other day and they test drove it and said there was no problem, suprise suprise. I then took the tester for a drive and made the car do it he said that is normal :confused: . I have even driven other earlier TDi Capitvas and the lag was noticeablly less.

Waughy
22-01-2009, 08:52 AM
How many k's has it done? Give it at least 15,000 to "loosen up". Mine's got 37xxx on it now and I did notice up to about 20,000 that the lag seemed to get less and less. I still get it now but have learned a bit of control to almost negate it, most of the time.

tickedo
27-01-2009, 06:19 AM
its done about 8500km. It is annoying as it is the ONLY thing that is wrong with the car.

Waughy
27-01-2009, 11:08 AM
It's a turbo, all turbo cars have lag, it's not really something wrong with it, it's inherant (sp?). It should get less as the motor wears in, as I said around the 15-20k mark.

tickedo
27-01-2009, 01:40 PM
I drive a lot of different turbo cars from sport cars to 4wd to race cars and this lag is BAD, poor design, development or problem whatever it is wrong.
Sorry im having a bad day

matthewfnorbert
27-01-2009, 02:35 PM
I drive a lot of different turbo cars from sport cars to 4wd to race cars and this lag is BAD, poor design, development or problem whatever it is wrong.
Sorry im having a bad day

so you mostly drive older crappy cars, these days turbo cars are very very good.

tickedo
28-01-2009, 07:02 AM
haha not really evo9, 08 Forrestor XT, FD rx7, Landcruiser TDi, but that is not the point.
The Captiva is a good car, I like it except for this issue. If I drive at say 70kmh then leave my foot on the accel and left foot brake down to about 45-50km then accel, most of the time there is a big lag !! Look I realise these arent rocket ships but even so.

Waughy
02-02-2009, 08:48 AM
Looks like mine is going back again, now the traction control lights are staying on, the one that would come on when traction control kicks in, and the one for when you turn it off. My 22 year old VL is more reliable, and almost as nice to drive.
What's next I wonder.......

CAPTIVALX
03-02-2009, 07:40 PM
Hey waughy mine done that after one of the steering column changes. Just an easy code reset fixes it. Just about to hit 100,000 in mine so bye bye warranty and fingers crossed for longevity

Waughy
04-02-2009, 07:05 AM
The lights are out now, so it's fixed itself???? But now the reverse sensors aren't working again. Stupid car.

shakows
04-02-2009, 05:58 PM
The lights are out now, so it's fixed itself???? But now the reverse sensors aren't working again. Stupid car.

Thats scary, I am only just getting to trust mine

Hopefully you didn't work that out the hard way

Guy Incognito98
04-02-2009, 09:53 PM
Haven't posted for ages but thought I would give an update on living with the Captiva. Almost at 50,000km and only problems are that the centre console and drivers seat are starting to creak and steering persistently pulling to the left. Otherwise I would still recommend the car highly, not sure of any other car that matches up in terms of price, practicality, features and driving experience.

Just got the original tyres replaced, doesn't seem to be a lot of options that fit the size and load rating requirements. Got some Maxxis Marauder II tyres that look tough as and seem to ride and grip well but are obscenely noisy, a manufacturer would never fit them as no one would buy the car after a test drive that needed ear plugs. A by product of the aggressive tread pattern it would seem. Anyone else try a different set of tyres? Or can you buy the original fitment Dunlop Sport 270s anywhere?

The pulling left issue was solved with a simple wheel alignment from the tyre place that supplied the tyres above. This just proved what I thought about the Holden dealer that unsuccessfully attempted to fix the problem, Holden dealers are staffed exclusively by spastics that are completely incapable of doing anything useful for anyone (sorry Planetdavo). After this and other instances of gross incompetence, will try the other dealer in Canberra for servicing in future, even though it is over the other side of town. Will be interesting to see if they are any better.

Waughy
05-02-2009, 05:45 AM
Thats scary, I am only just getting to trust mine

Hopefully you didn't work that out the hard way


Well I haven't had to use it yet, so hopefully it'll work if I do. I'll note it for the next service if it doesn't play up again. Reverse sensors worked last night again, grrrrr.

Something else for you all to look at. I've noticed after washing my car that water runs down the back window from under the hinges. Never worried too much about it. Looked today and noticed it's actually water running down the inside of the window, it's getting in through the bolts that hold it to the tailgate, they are showing signs of corrosion too.
Great stuff.

CapLX
16-02-2009, 05:16 PM
Haven't posted for ages but thought I would give an update on living with the Captiva. Almost at 50,000km and only problems are that the centre console and drivers seat are starting to creak and steering persistently pulling to the left. Otherwise I would still recommend the car highly, not sure of any other car that matches up in terms of price, practicality, features and driving experience.

Just got the original tyres replaced, doesn't seem to be a lot of options that fit the size and load rating requirements. Got some Maxxis Marauder II tyres that look tough as and seem to ride and grip well but are obscenely noisy, a manufacturer would never fit them as no one would buy the car after a test drive that needed ear plugs. A by product of the aggressive tread pattern it would seem. Anyone else try a different set of tyres? Or can you buy the original fitment Dunlop Sport 270s anywhere?

The pulling left issue was solved with a simple wheel alignment from the tyre place that supplied the tyres above. This just proved what I thought about the Holden dealer that unsuccessfully attempted to fix the problem, Holden dealers are staffed exclusively by spastics that are completely incapable of doing anything useful for anyone (sorry Planetdavo). After this and other instances of gross incompetence, will try the other dealer in Canberra for servicing in future, even though it is over the other side of town. Will be interesting to see if they are any better.

Hey Icognito88 - I'm afraid I have bad news for you. I'm in Canberra too and have also realised that ALL the spastic mechanics have moved to Canberra and work for Holden dealers service departments! The 2nd level spastics (just slightly less spastic than those mechanics) work in their Sales departments. Not sure who you're using but I can tell you to stay clear of the Holden places (especially the common & wealthy ones!). For eg -I asked for a tyre rotation after 10,000 on the new tryres to help even the wear. They decided not to cause they didnt think they needed it. A simple request was just far too hard for them to figure it out!
My new tyres to replace the Dunlops were Yokohamas (noisy and rough ride)..I think I'll go back to the Dunlops next time and just pay the extra.

Guy Incognito98
17-02-2009, 09:16 PM
Thanks CapLX, I had been frequenting the other dealership and it sounds like they are no better. Any ideas? Gentech?

It would seem the Dunlops are the go for NVH then, though I reckon the Maxxis have improved a bit once the surface bumps wore off.

How many 12v sockets do the new Sportswagons have? That is probably the car I would trade the Cappy in on but wouldn't want to skimp on this feature. Ha ha you know you have turned into a family man when the number of 12v outlets trumps performance and handling.

CapLX
18-02-2009, 08:40 AM
Incognito - can't recommend anyone I'm afraid. I have a new mitsubishi lancer and so far their service dept have been ok (nothing to complain about yet - although they can't hear the rattles I hear..but that's common response 'we can't reproduce your problem' blurb that is drummed into them). I'm tempted to get Mitsubishi Braddon to service the Cappy in future.

large
18-02-2009, 09:19 AM
Had to buy a new tyre for my Cappy Dunlop SP270 and beware of the price.
Cost $475 for 1 (one) yes 1 tyre.

Don't ever try and take the spare wheel out either as it is an absolute bitch. Its the worse design ever..

Some small issues with mine. Turbo lag is annoying but changes characteristics all the time. Some times its fine other times it is painful.

60th anniv model has an in dash dvd sytem with on board compass that had a mind of its own. Rear parking camera doesn't work all the time.

Overall its not a bad car. The diesel is a very good engine with plenty of torque.
Seats are horrible after coming out of an Adventra lx8 ( Best seats Ever made)

Waughy
18-02-2009, 11:28 AM
Yeah the seats aren't too bad but they could be better. My kids commented on how comfortable the rear seat in the VL Calais was the other week afyer being in the Captiva, lol. Getting the spare out is a pain, had to do it twice now, and just as painful is trying to remove a wheel from the hub, they hang on pretty bloody well. 10 at night in a dark street in a dodgy neighbourhood, wasn't a good feeling trying to change the tyre and the rotton thing wouldn't come off. Probably took longer to get the wheel off the car after undoing the nuts than it did to get the spare out.

tickedo
19-02-2009, 10:38 AM
Had to buy a new tyre for my Cappy Dunlop SP270 and beware of the price.
Cost $475 for 1 (one) yes 1 tyre.

Don't ever try and take the spare wheel out either as it is an absolute bitch. Its the worse design ever..

Some small issues with mine. Turbo lag is annoying but changes characteristics all the time. Some times its fine other times it is painful.

60th anniv model has an in dash dvd sytem with on board compass that had a mind of its own. Rear parking camera doesn't work all the time.

Overall its not a bad car. The diesel is a very good engine with plenty of torque.
Seats are horrible after coming out of an Adventra lx8 ( Best seats Ever made)

Have you had the reverse camera not work yet, then come back on !!
the turbo lag is bad, im wondering if anyone has had a chip upgrade or exhaust work done to see if that helps.

large
19-02-2009, 10:50 AM
Have you had the reverse camera not work yet, then come back on !!
the turbo lag is bad, im wondering if anyone has had a chip upgrade or exhaust work done to see if that helps.


Biggest issue with the reverse camera is the screen is black but stll has the guide lines down each side.

Cyborg
20-02-2009, 06:43 AM
I've had that happen with the reverse camera too. It usually happens if you go from reverse into drive back into reverse in a shoret space of time like if parking or similar. My trip computer/compass develops a mind of it's own and has had to be replaced twice now. The trip computer is inside the radio so the whole radio/dvd unit gets replaced. Mine just got replaced this week so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this one keeps working as I don't like them continually havingto open up the dash as it will inevitably lead to rattles.

Also I have developed a very annoying creaking noise in my upper steering column which the dealer said was the clockspring which they replaced. This did not fic it so they ahve arranged for the Holden tech rep to see it on tuesday as apparently they tested some of their cars in stock which also did it. Fortunately they agree it is not right but they don't know what's causing it. .....I will keep you posted.

I'm still happy with the car though as appart from these annoyances, it drives great and is very practicle.

tickedo
20-02-2009, 06:55 AM
forgot to mention another odity, the radio volume sometimes has a mind of its own, as you are driving along the volume sometimes rapidly rises to full.

ti0350
03-03-2009, 06:06 PM
Ok after looking around and trying to work out what to buy, the missus wants to look at captiva's I don't mind the look of them either which is good..
Just wondering if you guys that own them can let me what your overall opinion of them are, what's your ave fuel economy and ave speed (gotta be better then my VYSS) and how much stuff can you really fit in the back of them.. It will be mainly used for drivng to and from work and picking up the kids from school and probably the occasional camping trip with the boys from work..
once we get the captiva the SS goes to my toy status so the mods start.. :)
Appreciate any info you guys can give me..

Belzey
03-03-2009, 06:48 PM
I just got a brand new midnight blue LX and so far I am absolutely loving it.. It drives smooth has plenty of acceleration averaging approx 13l/100ks I have done just over 500ks in a few days, very roomy yet does not feel like you are driving a big car at all.. Overall I am really really pleased with it!

Cannot fault it AT ALL just yet.. Great car for a mum with kids :)

large
03-03-2009, 06:57 PM
I have done 30k. The engine/gearbox I am very happy with. Turbo lag is something you get used to. The transmission is pretty good. It hunts a bit on hills if you are towing but switching to manual mode is the way to go when towing.
I am not totally happy with the seats but I am six foot six and 130kgs.

I cant find a 7 seater of its type with a better rear seat arrangement. It kills the territory and Kluger in that dept.

Of course the in dash dvd works whilst driving if you accidently leave something under the hand brake lever.

Looks good, drives good, tows surprisingly well, even heavy loads.

Sound system is good.

Tyres are dear as poison.