I hate my luck

[Dane VN V8]

Me and my car has had the worst luck over the last 4 months or so, I didn't have my car for three months which was my fault but really annoying. Got it back and the next day a semi-trailer comes past me from the opposite direction and flicks a decent size rock up onto my windscreen cracking it. So I had to pay $300 for a new windscreen.

On wednesday I was going 80ks up a street over a hill and there was a bunch of birds sitting around on the bloody road and I couldn't lock it up (well I could but didn't want to). I couldn't swerve as another car was heading down the street in the opposite direction so I had to collect two birds. One of the birds cracked the plastic cover over my front number-plate causing a bit to hang off and the other bird hit my body-kit and left a little scratch.

And yesterday I am driving down Milperra road (three lane's, busy of traffic) on the far right hand land and notice a piece of cardboard blowing up and back down onto the ground in MY LANE. I slowed down from 70ks to 40ks trying to dodge this cardboard and get over to the far left lane but i had no hope for that. The bit of cardboard that would of been a meter long and half meter wide comes smashing into my front bodykit and off onto the middle lane :. Luckily leaving no damage and luckily not hitting my windscreen and covering it up for me to be blind.


So I thought that was bad then I had to work today and get up at 4:30am and get to work by 6:00am. I had not been to this factory before and it was directly in the BLOODY CITY, so I am driving around confused stressed out wanting to get to work on time. Looking at my street directory, punching my steering wheel, abusing my self I then notice I went threw a ****ing red light and it had to be one with a red light camera :cussing: . So I went to work for nothing and lost my licence because of me being confused, I have lived off one bloody point for 2 years and now I lose my licence because of a red light. :cussing:

I just hope I can make it to my black licence and get more points before paying this fine and losing whatever you do for going threw a red light.

Dane

[VooDoo]

In a few years all this won't matter in the slightest. If thats all you have to worry about then your doing ok.

[Dane VN V8]

In a few years all this won't matter in the slightest. If thats all you have to worry about then your doing ok.

Heh yeah its not the bad but really annoying, I want/need my licence, I wanted to get my Heavy Rigid licence as soon as I got my black licence and have a clean record of driving for 2 years. Now it's all farked and I have the chance of losing my licence for 3 months that I can't afford.

[diabolic]

You lose 3 points for a red light.

Edit: Sorry, you're in Syndey. WA is 3 points.

[Y2kGoofball]

Dane, heres a tip i learnt

* every intersection in the city is a red light camera (well just about)
* if its not a red light camera then chances are the lane your in is a bus lane ... with a camera :cussing:

I know what your saying, I threw my old job in because I specifically asked them to make sure my jobs were outside the CBD and they always made sure my wish never came true, the traffic and pedestrians are nightmares, then theres all the various cameras, no right turns, no left turns, no over turns, bus lanes, taxi drivers and fark knows what

The day I thought I got pinged for getting stuck in a bus lane coz no prick lets you merge into "their" lane was the day I threw back the keys. I never found out if I got fined or not, I was in a company registered vehicle which helped tho :werd:

[Dane VN V8]

Dane, heres a tip i learnt

* every intersection in the city is a red light camera (well just about)
* if its not a red light camera then chances are the lane your in is a bus lane ... with a camera :cussing:

I know what your saying, I threw my old job in because I specifically asked them to make sure my jobs were outside the CBD and they always made sure my wish never came true, the traffic and pedestrians are nightmares, then theres all the various cameras, no right turns, no left turns, no over turns, bus lanes, taxi drivers and fark knows what

The day I thought I got pinged for getting stuck in a bus lane coz no prick lets you merge into "their" lane was the day I threw back the keys. I never found out if I got fined or not, I was in a company registered vehicle which helped tho :werd:


Thats the thing, I know the city is farked up and cameras are everywhere but I was such in a rush, stressted out and hell tired (only had three hours sleep before work) I just wanted to get to work. I don't know what happen I looked straight ahead and around at the side streets then back down at the street directory then back up and god damn I am going threw an intersection with a redlight.

I am hoping now I went over the lines if it was green, I don't remember if it was green or not but I don't go threw red lights so I am hoping I looked saw it was green and looked back down, I dunno im screwed. All I can do is wait for it to come and wait a little longer and hope I have enough time to get my black's or bye bye licence for three months and me being a truckie anytime soon :bawl:

[Elite SS]

Sorry to hear Dan...don't worry about the "Anger Management Course" or the Defensive driving Course" lock youself in your room for a while, Just kidding;) mate...I think it's time you take a Holiday, take some time off...It can always be worse..

[Mozz]

So I thought that was bad then I had to work today and get up at 4:30am and get to work by 6:00am. I had not been to this factory before and it was directly in the BLOODY CITY, so I am driving around confused stressed out wanting to get to work on time. Looking at my street directory, punching my steering wheel, abusing my self I then notice I went threw a ****ing red light and it had to be one with a red light camera :cussing: . So I went to work for nothing and lost my licence because of me being confused, I have lived off one bloody point for 2 years and now I lose my licence because of a red light. :cussing:

Dane

Dane - please try to take my response as a positive contribution to keeping you and other road user alive while driving on public roads.

Red lights exist for a reason, they unfortunately give other drivers with green lights the belief it is safe to enter and cross the intersection. The other drivers don't know about your previous broken windscreen a few weeks ago, nor of the piece of cardboard that hit your car nor of your work start time or that you are lost and reading a referdex while driving through the intersection. They just expect that their green light gives them the ability to safely traverse the intersection. They expect that you as the driver of another car on the road, are fully in control of your car and abiding by the rules of the road.

Sometimes you just need to slow down to speed up - in this case pulling over safely to read the referdex. In the cold light of day this might seem to waste valuable minutes but from experience I can tell you the incident you described above could also lead to a multiple fatality traffic accident with survivors who are brain injured for life or quad or tetraplegics and/or you as the culpable driver facing jail time for a period and gut wrenching guilt for life.

A couple of real life scenarios I have investigated where

Dad, Mum and 2 x kids travelling from Sydney to Brisbane - dad did whole trip overnight in one hit, was fatigued, falling asleep, didn't listen to mum who wanted to pull over, fell asleep 30kms from brisbane, rolled car, killed one child, mum paraplegic, dad doing jail time.

Dad and Mum in car, late for a dinner appointment, in an unfamilar street, dad decides as a split second decision to do a pull over and u-turn, right in front of a taxi which was - result - mum dead - taxi driver injured and again dad doing jail time.

Camera detected offences are by no means a 100% certainty - although the probability of getting a red light camera tick is high - please see this incident as one you can learn from. I don't know about the context of your previous points accumulation however I recommend looking at this like an exam or test - blowing through the intersection against the red light means you failed to pass - if you do lose your license - sit out the time reflecting on how much better/safer driver you will be when you get it back.

Again - please see my comments as positive contribution.

[brentonsav]

the point system is there so that is takes numerous offences to lose your licence.
i totally disagree with the cameras and believe they are revenue raising only but it takes a few offences to get to 1 point anyway. if u didnt offend previously, this latest red light camera offence wouldnt piss you off so much.
many here (incl myself) have lost their licences from time to time and its something that happens and unfortunately there is noone to blame but yourself.

many people have much worse "luck" than you in thier lives, soldier on and you'll get thru it

[Dane VN V8]

Dane - please try to take my response as a positive contribution to keeping you and other road user alive while driving on public roads.

Camera detected offences are by no means a 100% certainty - although the probability of getting a red light camera tick is high - please see this incident as one you can learn from. I don't know about the context of your previous points accumulation however I recommend looking at this like an exam or test - blowing through the intersection against the red light means you failed to pass - if you do lose your license - sit out the time reflecting on how much better/safer driver you will be when you get it back.

Again - please see my comments as positive contribution.

Yeah I understand what you mean and I should of been more aware while driving along the road as someone could of been going threw the intersection. I now know who cares about that 2 minutes to pull over to look at the street directory, could save a life and would save my licence.



the point system is there so that is takes numerous offences to lose your licence.
i totally disagree with the cameras and believe they are revenue raising only but it takes a few offences to get to 1 point anyway. if u didnt offend previously, this latest red light camera offence wouldnt piss you off so much.
many here (incl myself) have lost their licences from time to time and its something that happens and unfortunately there is noone to blame but yourself.

many people have much worse "luck" than you in thier lives, soldier on and you'll get thru it

I know, I lost six points because of a car accident I had when I was on my red p-plates and luckily I was able to get my green plates though my fine went to state debt recovery and had to pay an extra $50 but it gave me an extra month or so to wait so I could get my greens. So hopefully I am lucky again and can get my full licence but loose three points straight away which really sucks but better then a suspended licence as that has already happen to me also when I was on my red p-plates :hide: . It's just annoying as I have matured and been good on the roads for two years (well from highway patrol anyway) and I get screwed by a red light camera.

Dane.

P.S I'm not so pissed off anymore, I know I should of paid more attention and just pulled over but I didn't want to waste anymore time as I thought I was running late. Ahh well im over it and just have to wait and see what happens to me,

[Sonnymad]

Dane,

I hate to say this,but i cant help noticing that every thread of urs is about how ur having bad luck with this,with that....perhaps someones got their voodoo doll out and punching pins right thru you...

[Dane VN V8]

Dane,

I hate to say this,but i cant help noticing that every thread of urs is about how ur having bad luck with this,with that....perhaps someones got their voodoo doll out and punching pins right thru you...

It's funny you say that Sonny because I think that could be it, I stopped talking to this chick I was hooking up with five months ago and all of a sudden I get shit luck. :hmmm: I should start speaking to this chick again and maybe my luck will turn around.

Dane.

[blackbettyhsv]

too right dane try the chick thing first, who knows you might even get laid!!!!!!!

[seedyrom]

no offense intended, but when someone who lost 6!!! points on their provisional licence, has had a licence suspended whilst provisionally licenced, claims they have matured then subsequently loses control of their car up a gutter trying to do a burnout to impress some bikers (edit: which you're lucky you didn't lose 3 points for neg. driving) ... THEN DRIVES THROUGH A RED LIGHT, and admits they weren't watching the road .... Well its hard to feel sorry for you.

Seriously ... that's wrong.

We've all been young and dumb, but at 21 you should have grown up by now. The first incident is a wake up ... after that, its stupidity.

You endanger the life of me, my wife, my child and everyone else. I'm glad you're off the road. Maybe you need a less powerful car ... hell i see you are wanting a manual ... yet you cant control an auto!!

You're lucky you can think about your actions in your 3 months catching buses ... rather than during a 3 year manslaughter sentance.

[Dane VN V8]

no offense intended, but when someone who lost 6!!! points on their provisional licence, has had a licence suspended whilst provisionally licenced, claims they have matured then subsequently loses control of their car up a gutter trying to do a burnout to impress some bikers (edit: which you're lucky you didn't lose 3 points for neg. driving) ... THEN DRIVES THROUGH A RED LIGHT, and admits they weren't watching the road .... Well its hard to feel sorry for you.

Seriously ... that's wrong.

We've all been young and dumb, but at 21 you should have grown up by now. The first incident is a wake up ... after that, its stupidity.

You endanger the life of me, my wife, my child and everyone else. I'm glad you're off the road. Maybe you need a less powerful car ... hell i see you are wanting a manual ... yet you cant control an auto!!

You're lucky you can think about your actions in your 3 months catching buses ... rather than during a 3 year manslaughter sentance.

:lmao:, god I love you mate.

Dane.

[seedyrom]

yeah, i'm a c--t for calling a spade a spade. Lets all join hands and sing kumbuyah, then blame the bad luck fairies.

you make your own luck. Is getting 3 hours sleep before starting work someone elses fault too?

An employe pays for their employees to be alert and capable ...

anyway , this sh-ts pointless

[Dane VN V8]

yeah, i'm a c--t for calling a spade a spade. Lets all join hands and sing kumbuyah, then blame the bad luck fairies.

you make you're own luck. Is getting 3 hours sleep before starting work someone elses fault too?

An employe pays for their employees to be alert and capable ...

anyway , this sh-ts pointless

No everything is my fault, I didn't get enough sleep however I was in bed by nine thirty but could not fall asleep untill twelve then woke up every hour and stayed up for fifteen minutes trying to get back to sleep. Its my fault I don't know how the city works, as this and that street is one way and a dead end, so I started to panic to find out where to go. I am not blaming no one else I am just me and my luck is just not good. And yes this is pointless and I am not going to fight with you, as I know I was in the wrong I just wanted to bitch about it.

Cheers,
Dane

[SSBarney]

Sounds like you need some stress management as well as looking at things a bit more positively. You drive around the city reading a directory punching the steering wheel:werd:

Positives:
Big heap of cardboard hits me, I'm so lucky it didnt damage anything.
Come over the hill unable to pull up and kill a couple of birds, I'm so glad they werent kids crossing the road. And so glad the damage was stuff all.
Big rock flys at me from a truck, I'm so glad it didnt come through and hurt me, and was just a simple windscreen replacement.

Shit will happen every day its how you respond to it that makes or breaks ur life.

.... and i think Seedy sorta said the rest.

Good Luck for the rest of the year.

[Y2kGoofball]

I dunno ... you bloody VX drivers :lmao:

[laza007]

yeah, i'm a c--t for calling a spade a spade. Lets all join hands and sing kumbuyah, then blame the bad luck fairies.

you make your own luck. Is getting 3 hours sleep before starting work someone elses fault too?

An employe pays for their employees to be alert and capable ...

anyway , this sh-ts pointless

Sums up how i feel really. I dont post much, but i read a fair bit. I dont think this is a case of luck, i think its just a case of thinking you're invincible for too long!

[Dane VN V8]

i think its just a case of thinking you're invincible for too long!

Whatever mate I don't think I am invincible and I %100 know that since my accident so don't think I just go and run red lights because I think I am invincible :fewl: . It was an accident, but hey I am invincible because I have a green p plate on my car, like for **** sake I am 4 months away from my full licence, I have not been in trouble for two bloody god damn years part from my accident which people have (yeah I was showing off im idiot but I don't think I am invincible). But no I go and crash my car and run red lights because I am invincible, yeah right you summed it up mate. Pft.

Dane.

[Bravotwozero]

No offence mate but running a red light isn't an accident. Reading a street directory while driving is just insane. I don't think you can see the connection between the action and the consequence. Otherwise you wouldn't be calling it an accident. Red light camera would have been the least of your worries had someone been in the middle of the intersection and you T-boned them.

Watch the road mate and you won't have this problem. As for the stone, yeah that's a bummer. I had a big rock hit my front left guard on the way down Wilson's Prom the other day and it has taken a fairly big chunk of paint off. But these things happen. I'll just get the guard resprayed and be done with it. Why sweat the small stuff?

As for the chick, just remember that if it has tits or wheels it will give you trouble! :werd:

[SSBarney]

like for **** sake I am 4 months away from my full licence, . Pft.

Dane.

Not anymore:lmao: :lmao:

[Y2kGoofball]

I dunno, it wasnt till I got my full licence after 3 years total on P's that I got pulled over. Pure misfortune, as Ive detailed elsewhere I was cruising along with the speed of traffic around me, 3 or 4 car gap to the car in front, nice sunny day, listening to some good music, truck too close for comfort behind me but you get that, admittitly unaware of my speed ... just crusing in the sun as we do.

I got picked up for going 15 kays over the limit. Still to this day Im sure the reason i was picked out of everyone around me was because I was doing the safe thing and keeping a big enough gap to the car in front, and the fact they thought I was a young guy in a V8. But that doesnt matter, I was in the wrong and I got caught and thats what happens.

I agreed it was my fault, one of the basic requirements of driving is you keep an eye on your speed, I always do, except on this day I had failed to do that, I took it as a painful reminder that I had failed to do one of the most basic parts of driving.

But what hurt was the comment "youve only just got your licence and your already doing stupid things". Ive had my provisional licence for 3 years prior. I had been on the road 8 to 10 hours a day, 5 days a week, for 2 of those 3 years, in the CBD, on the freeways, in the country, and not once was I pulled over for anything more then a few roadside RBT's.

I spend anywhere from 1.5 hours to 2 hours each way travelling to and from work, and have done for the other year of those 3 years I mentioned earlier.

That comment really pissed me off though because thats not what hapened. I wasnt acting stupid, I realised that I still wasnt invincible despite having more points, and it couldve easily happened to me while I was on my P's. If I was caught doing a burnout or drag racing or something (no probles here because I dont mis treat my car like that) yeh fair enough because I wouldvt been aware at the time I was deliberately breaking the law. But in this case I was just crusing with the speed of traffic around me, and they know that, thats why they were setup on that particular corner.

The other thing that annoyed me more was 2 cars in the opposite direction flashed their lights to warn us, so I knew they were there well and truley before the corner. Thats what really hurt the most :lmao:

Since then been on the road over the Xmas double demerit points period, acctually was on the road quite a bit over the double demerit season with trips to and fromm Newcastle to Sydney, not one hassle, and I dont plan on there being another hassle for quite some time.

[mark78]

You never know you might not receive the fine. In the media a couple of weeks ago it was reported that only 1/3 of Sydney red light cameras are actually operational. The rest aren't working properly at any one time & need repair, others units have been left there as only a deterrent.

Which explains why I didn’t receive a fine from accidentally running a red in the city about 4 months ago.

(obviously running reds is not advisable though).

[black_friday]

GOLD Barney:sux:

[Dane VN V8]

Okay I am driving along Henry lawson drive driving stopping at a RED LIGHT at the big intersection on Milperra road that leads you towards liverpool or to bankstown. I am heading from Bass Hill towards Millperra and there is a VZ SS Highway patrol sitting in the left hand lane that shortly runs out after the intersection. The light turns green and the HWP takes off slowly real slow so I take off a bit faster not to be a paranoid bitch then he speeds up to 30ks so I slow down to let him go threw and he slows down.

So I think **** this, this is stupid so I speed up to 60ks and he comes in behind me, I set my cruise control on 59ks and cruise along. MIND you I have done this hundred's of times in front of HWP. He stays back a bit and we keep driving along then he pulls me over, I am thinking great I knew it because I have a p plate and its my luck.

The officer comes up to me asking for my drivers licence and stating I was doing 70ks in a 60 zone. I then argue back in a polite way saying officer I would not speed in front of a police offer as that is stupid. I told him I had my cruise control set on 59 and left it at that. I pushed mode on the dash showing him the cruise control display and promised him I was doing 59 by that. And it was on 60ks with the needle, the officer is like "mate we get our radars calibrated every 3 months or so and they are correct".

I then argue saying mate I promise you I would not speed in front of a High way patrol car. He then say's well mate I will go and get your speedo checked out as you were doing 70 in a 60 zone and he then argues saying you cut me off back at the lights. I went ahead and explain I would rather be in front then cutting him off the road or staying behind and acting paranoid taking off like a grandma. He then goes ahead and says if there is a car in the left hand land and that lane merges into the right hand lane you are suppose to give way to the car in the left hand lane.

I replied saying I know this but you were going slow and not overtaking so I speed up to let you get behind me before the lane cuts out and run you off the road. He is like mate you don't mess around with Highway patrol your just asking for it, I am like I promise you I was not trying to cut you off and I was not speeding in front of you. I thought I was doing the right thing to speed up not going over the speed limit. I then asked if it happens next time and you take off slowly I just stay behind and let you in front? He replies yes and starts walking to the back of my car then back to me and say's your on your p plates mate.

I replied yes, 3 months a 2 weeks untill my full licence, he then says well mate you need to move your p plate to the back of your car as we can't see it threw the tinted windows. MIND YOU he had a grin on his face the whole time and he says "I got you on three things but I will let you off on three cautions because your playing it right :hmmm: ". I am like thank you, thank you, he then says you got any defects on your car that I could get you for, I say no and he is like are you sure about that, I am like yeah and then he walks off with that grin on his face.

So I take a deep breath thinking wtf is going on and take off setting my cruise control on 50 with him behind me for 10 minutes, he must of hated that as my speedo is right so I think and he was obviously picking on me. So I have now came to think it is a POLICE OFFICER ON THIS FORUM picking on me or its just my bad luck, maybe I am paranoid. But I know the speedo is not 10ks out, I have put 18" mags on instead of the original 17" mags knowing it would be 2-3ks off being correct but not 10. And plus I go threw speed cameras at 55ks and always go past HWP doing 60ks on my SPEEDO. If it was 10ks out **** me drunk I must have fifty speeding tickets coming my way from speed cameras :hmmm: .

What a crock of shit and a waste of my time, I was not speeding, I did not cut him off, and yeah the p plate is the only thing he had right but shit it was there being displayer. Better then not having one at all, my rant if over for tonight, maybe tommorow or this week I will have more to tell you all about.

Dane.

[jerrel]

i have one thing to say: LOL

u have a funny life. be thankful none of this is too serious.

[Janus]

no offense intended, but when someone who lost 6!!! points on their provisional licence, has had a licence suspended whilst provisionally licenced, claims they have matured then subsequently loses control of their car up a gutter trying to do a burnout to impress some bikers (edit: which you're lucky you didn't lose 3 points for neg. driving) ... THEN DRIVES THROUGH A RED LIGHT, and admits they weren't watching the road .... Well its hard to feel sorry for you.

Seriously ... that's wrong.

We've all been young and dumb, but at 21 you should have grown up by now. The first incident is a wake up ... after that, its stupidity.

You endanger the life of me, my wife, my child and everyone else. I'm glad you're off the road. Maybe you need a less powerful car ... hell i see you are wanting a manual ... yet you cant control an auto!!

You're lucky you can think about your actions in your 3 months catching buses ... rather than during a 3 year manslaughter sentance.

He does have a point. I was thinking something similar as I read your post. I have seen a couple of thread on here of people complaining about their treatment by the police for pulling them over when they "were only doing 90km in a 60km zone" or "accidentally had some tyre spin when they left the lights". I doesn't really matter by how much you are breaking the law you are still breaking the law.

I know a lot of cops and for most the last thing they want to do is pull someone over for something minor, let alone made up. For a simple ticket they have to fill out quite a bit of paper work and if it is simple made up and you dispute it they have to sort it out and prove it...which is hard if it is made up.

I remember just the other day I was in front of a police car at the lights and had no problem accelerating away quite quickly I just made sure that I stopped at the correct speed.

[yella terra]

i have one thing to say: LOL

u have a funny life. be thankful none of this is too serious.

:lmao:

Well said:werd:

[Devil CV8]

I am 4 months away from my full licence,
Dane.

To delay the points until you get your full license await the second reminder, first one now comes from SDRO but is a reminder only, the second one from SDRO says pay the money, elect court or $50 will be added. That may get you to 4 months, if not elect court and you will easily make your full license. not sure if that is a good thing or not.


He then goes ahead and says if there is a car in the left hand land and that lane merges into the right hand lane you are suppose to give way to the car in the left hand lane.

Dane. I suppose I must reread the road laws. If the vehicle that is in the ending lane has to cross lane markings they must give way, not the car that is in the continuing lane. If there are no markings then all cars must merge safely. That said, common sense prevails.

[VX2VESS]

I suppose I must reread the road laws. If the vehicle that is in the ending lane has to cross lane markings they must give way, not the car that is in the continuing lane. If there are no markings then all cars must merge safely. That said, common sense prevails.

if the car merging is in front by any amount you should give way. that also applies to merge lanes from the right, some of those around also.

but in saying that half the cars speed up to cut ppl off instead of just letting them merge in. this causes more problems and slows traffic down. because when cut off they slow down, which slows down everyone behind them, now they are not at the same speed to merge as the other lane. this then causes traffic conjestion at that point for both lanes slows both down more.

[Dane VN V8]

i have one thing to say: LOL

u have a funny life. be thankful none of this is too serious.

It's not too funny a bit frustrating and stressed out really considering I have the chance of losing my licence in a couple of months and this HWP just scares the shit out of me even more saying I was 10ks over when I clearly wasn't.


He does have a point. I was thinking something similar as I read your post. I have seen a couple of thread on here of people complaining about their treatment by the police for pulling them over when they "were only doing 90km in a 60km zone" or "accidentally had some tyre spin when they left the lights". I doesn't really matter by how much you are breaking the law you are still breaking the law.

I know a lot of cops and for most the last thing they want to do is pull someone over for something minor, let alone made up. For a simple ticket they have to fill out quite a bit of paper work and if it is simple made up and you dispute it they have to sort it out and prove it...which is hard if it is made up.

I remember just the other day I was in front of a police car at the lights and had no problem accelerating away quite quickly I just made sure that I stopped at the correct speed.

Well that is most likely the reason why he never gave me a ticket because I did nothing wrong, I was not speeding, I had my p-plate showing. I got in front of him instead of being behind him that is what pissed him off.


To delay the points until you get your full license await the second reminder, first one now comes from SDRO but is a reminder only, the second one from SDRO says pay the money, elect court or $50 will be added. That may get you to 4 months, if not elect court and you will easily make your full license. not sure if that is a good thing or not.

I suppose I must reread the road laws. If the vehicle that is in the ending lane has to cross lane markings they must give way, not the car that is in the continuing lane. If there are no markings then all cars must merge safely. That said, common sense prevails.

Yeah I know, I have done this before with my green p-plates now I hope to do it again with my full licence. I can only hope I can make it last for 3 months a 2 weeks as that is exactly when I get my black licence, I think I will make it, well hope so.

Well that is what I really thought aswell, as they are merging into your lane so they have to give way as you are just cruising along. Unless they are half a car length in front or even a bit infront you should let them in for saftey reasons obviously. I went to do that and slowed down and the HWP slowed down so I speed up to 60ks to let him behind otherwise I would had to come to complete stop in flowing traffic to let him front :werd: . But ah well if its the police stay behind and stop I guess.


if the car merging is in front by any amount you should give way. that also applies to merge lanes from the right, some of those around also.

but in saying that half the cars speed up to cut ppl off instead of just letting them merge in. this causes more problems and slows traffic down. because when cut off they slow down, which slows down everyone behind them, now they are not at the same speed to merge as the other lane. this then causes traffic conjestion at that point for both lanes slows both down more.

I know this and the HWP was directly beside me, he took off like a grandma so I took off normally being slightly in front. He then speed up to let the nose of his car be infront of mine so I slowed down to let him in front giving way to him (as I wanted him in front anyway) and he slowed down for the nose of his car to be directly beside mine and his lane was running out so I speed up to 60ks thinking I was doing the right thing. But no.

Dane.

[ssgirl2]

Could you please PM me with your rego and colour of your ride so I can keep my car load of kids away from you. No laughing little icons or any funny faces.

I am 100% serious...IMO you seriously need to get your distractions under control or see your doc about some medication for that ADHD.

[Devil CV8]

if the car merging is in front by any amount you should give way. that also applies to merge lanes from the right, some of those around also.
note the should..... and agreed, it is common sense BUT the road rules state if your lane is ending you give way to the traffic in the lane that is continuing on...

[seedyrom]

Now do you understand why people drive slowly when cops are around?

You can actually have up to 10% deviation in your speedo accuracy from the manufacturer. Coupled with a change in rim size without having recalibration via tech 2 and its an easy 10km/h over that could be had.

Ahhh ... not displaying P-Plates correctly. My pet hate.

They are not a badge of shame, but a warning to other drivers of your lesser abilities behind the wheel. Enables others to give your more lee-way and to allow for your errors.


:D :D :D :p :p :p :stick: :stick: :stick:

EDIT: oh, and Dickie Knee's got a car for sale in the classifieds thats probably more appropriate for you

EDIT2: only the police officer out of the two of you can be assured of his speedo's accuracy. Why not goo to a sponsor with a dyno and ask them to run it up to 80km/h and see what you are displaying :idea:

[yella terra]

EDIT2: only the police officer out of the two of you can be assured of his speedo's accuracy. Why not goo to a sponsor with a dyno and ask them to run it up to 80km/h and see what you are displaying :idea:

By the sounds of this thread...clearly that would be too complex for him, to pro-actively go out and fix a problem that he believes occurs:p

[Dane VN V8]

Could you please PM me with your rego and colour of your ride so I can keep my car load of kids away from you. No laughing little icons or any funny faces.

I am 100% serious...IMO you seriously need to get your distractions under control or see your doc about some medication for that ADHD.

Yeah good one.


note the should..... and agreed, it is common sense BUT the road rules state if your lane is ending you give way to the traffic in the lane that is continuing on...

Exactly what I thought.


Now do you understand why people drive slowly when cops are around?

You can actually have up to 10% deviation in your speedo accuracy from the manufacturer. Coupled with a change in rim size without having recalibration via tech 2 and its an easy 10km/h over that could be had.

Ahhh ... not displaying P-Plates correctly. My pet hate.

They are not a badge of shame, but a warning to other drivers of your lesser abilities behind the wheel. Enables others to give your more lee-way and to allow for your errors.


:D :D :D :p :p :p :stick: :stick: :stick:

EDIT: oh, and Dickie Knee's got a car for sale in the classifieds thats probably more appropriate for you

EDIT2: only the police officer out of the two of you can be assured of his speedo's accuracy. Why not goo to a sponsor with a dyno and ask them to run it up to 80km/h and see what you are displaying :idea:

:p I will check that car out, might be a good buy.

But I know my speedo is not 10ks out otherwise I would have a million speeding fines as I go past one every day with cruise control set on 59ks, but I might go and get it checked out incase. :whip: .


By the sounds of this thread...clearly that would be too complex for him, to pro-actively go out and fix a problem that he believes occurs:p

:stick: Hey that's a bit unfair, but I will get it checked out :lol:

[Y2kGoofball]

to those who "hit the brakes" when they see a cop on the side of the road...

Ive had the chance to sit in a fully marked HWP car on the side of a quiet residential street (outside my house). This was during Bathurst a few years back, I still remember the day.

I sat in the passenger seat. Car was simply parked paralell to the gutter outside the house. Our street is a fairly long street with a kink in it.

Out of nowhere I see the radar display light up with something like 70 odd KPH in a 50 zone.

I notice a car has just come through the kink and onto the straight road. The speed starts to fluctuate for a good 10 or so seconds. All of a sudden the driver sees the car on the side of the road because the display drops right down to about 45ish KPH. By now there all of 3 or 4 houses up. The speed drops right down to 40, the display blinks as it looses contact as soon as the car gets right next too it. it then flashes again as it picks up the signal from BEHIND the cop car, and we see the speed start to gradually build as the head towards the T intersection at the other end of the street.

We stay locked on until it reaches 0kph - at the T, then we lose it once it turns off.

Funniest thing Ive ever seen, and we sat there for a few cars and pretty much the same story. You can pin point where theyve realised they have potentially been caught.

Problems - a) we had recorded a speed of something in the 70kph area well and truley before he noticed us parked there

b) it is so obvious then when you hit the brakes aka "fark I knew I was speeding and fark, hope they dont have that radar on"

On the road is no different. If they have the radar on while their driving and you see them come up behind you and fark, on the brakes, not only do they see you slow down, but it shows it on the readout. Once again, it admits you knew you were in the wrong, too bad if theyve got your speed locked on though.

Even better if you come screaming up behind them, I dont know how the technology works but I know it can detect speed both ways, Ive seen it happen.


"mate we get our radars calibrated every 3 months or so and they are correct". Dane, not having a go at you man, but they have the radars callibrated before every shift to prevent smart asses using the excuse "your radar is out of callibration, not my speedo". Its a requirement, its also printed in big fluro letters across the cars speedo "THIS IS A NON CALIBRATED SPEED MEASURING DEVICE" and "ENSURE RADAR IS CALIBRATED BEFORE STARTING CAR"

He must be a very stupid cop too, they will never mention anything about callibration unless you decide to question the integrity of the readout. and even then they'll keep tight lipped because it could haunt them later in court if you so choose to take it further.

Ive gotta say though I agree with the proposed ZERO demerit point for first year P platers, if your caught doing anything wrong and thats your licence gone. Only problem is they need the numbers HWP wise to enforce the law. No use having something that no ones policing.

and as mentioned in my previous post to all the provisional drivers who say "its tough to get through the P plate phase without one fine" you are seriously kidding yourself. I was determined to make it though my provisional time without one hiccup, and it wasnt until i got my black licence was I stopped for speeding, and even then it wasnt deliberate to the point the cop even agreed that its easy to pop over the limit on roads like the one I was on (if youve got access to the private area my story is there). So to those who think its impossible I will tell you that you shouldnt be on the road if you dont think you can do 12 months without one infringement.

sorry my rant on the subject, I'll shut up now :sleep:

[heavychevy]

MIND you I have done this hundred's of times in front of HWP.
Dane.

Hundreds of times. Bet your folks told you a million times not to exagerate

[greySStoke]

Quote : So I have now came to think it is a POLICE OFFICER ON THIS FORUM picking on me



Can someone say PARANOID

[jerrel]

It's not too funny a bit frustrating and stressed out really considering I have the chance of losing my licence in a couple of months and this HWP just scares the shit out of me even more saying I was 10ks over when I clearly wasn't.

man u really gotta chillax! everyone has a "chance of losing their licence in a cople of months". ur not special, even if u like to think so.:whip:

[yella terra]

Quote : So I have now came to think it is a POLICE OFFICER ON THIS FORUM picking on me



Can someone say PARANOID


Must be his OTHER personality

Dean VN V8 :lmao:

[Elite SS]

Dane
Here's a few things for you to look into....here are some of your own personal post's....have a good look at yourself and stop blaming others for Your stupidity...

1 - I hate my Luck -

2 - What a Tool -

3 - Does my bad luck ever end

4 - Annoyed with Smash repairs

5 - Moron's on the road

6 - Police Harrassing ME

7 - Still drinks a lot of petrol

8 - Buying a Suzuki Swift - the best thought you have ever had -

Do every one a favour and by one.Personaly I'ts people like you who give young drivers and V8 owners a bad name with the public and the Police...you stuff up, grow up.

[yella terra]

Dane
Here's a few things for you to look into....here are some of your own personal post's....have a good look at yourself and stop blaming others for Your stupidity...

1 - I hate my Luck -

2 - What a Tool -

3 - Does my bad luck ever end

4 - Annoyed with Smash repairs

5 - Moron's on the road

6 - Police Harrassing ME

7 - Still drinks a lot of petrol

8 - Buying a Suzuki Swift - the best thought you have ever had -

Do every one a favour and by one.Personaly I'ts people like you who give young drivers and V8 owners a bad name with the public and the Police...you stuff up, grow up.


Well Said :werd:

[Y2kGoofball]

now do me


ah on second thoughts dont :yahoo:

And while we're on the hot topic of young blokes in SS's, if the green P plater in the silver VX SS on the M4 is on the forum I'd like to say haha. We both left Penrith at the same time. You swerved in and out, across 3 lanes of traffic, onto the shoulder, even cut people off, sat up their arse and carried on. I sat in the middle lane for most of the trip and cruised like always at 5:30 in the morning.

Haha, I still beat you to the Cumberland highway offramp, and I wasnt even trying.

sorry if I pissed you off too in the last few hundred meters before the off ramp, but you dont have to sit up my arse because Im doing the speed limit in the left lane. Oh and you dont have to use the shoulder to overtake me once we're on the off ramp when you consider a) the offramp was fairly quiet, b) you were turning right I was turning left, c) Ive heard the roar of the Gen III many times before, yours doesnt impress me. Sorry, but I see behaviour like that and cringe, thats why I'm stuck paying mega bucks for insurance on a V6 ... because of hoons like that who force the price of premiums up for everyone else.

He didnt have a P plate on the back either, but there was a for sale sticker on it ... great way to advertise that the cars never been thrashed :lmao:

[Elite SS]

Y2K..you really expect some one to come forward for that..just look him/her up in "Youtube"...look under silver SS Commi 4 sale...never been flogged. :D

Then again we have our own - Dane:lmao:

[Dane VN V8]

Dane
Here's a few things for you to look into....here are some of your own personal post's....have a good look at yourself and stop blaming others for Your stupidity...

1 - I hate my Luck -

2 - What a Tool -

3 - Does my bad luck ever end

4 - Annoyed with Smash repairs

5 - Moron's on the road

6 - Police Harrassing ME

7 - Still drinks a lot of petrol

8 - Buying a Suzuki Swift - the best thought you have ever had -

Do every one a favour and by one.Personaly I'ts people like you who give young drivers and V8 owners a bad name with the public and the Police...you stuff up, grow up.

:whip: I did buy a Nissan Pulsar six months ago and it lasted me three months :lol:.


Y2K..you really expect some one to come forward for that..just look him/her up in "Youtube"...look under silver SS Commi 4 sale...never been flogged. :D

Then again we have our own - Dane:lmao:

:lol:, you do don't ya :D .


Dane.

[Elite SS]

Ok Dane...you can hold the "LS 1 Hoon of the year award" :bow:

You must be very proud of it...

[glen III]

I have now came to think it is a POLICE OFFICER ON THIS FORUM picking on me

Maybe it is. Read this Dane, this is how Police decide who to harrass and how. Please note the "Cars" section, you will find it illuminating. It's American, but you'll get the picture.

This was taken from a "Community Policing" question and answer via an e-mail forum in California.

The question was:

"I would like to know how it is possible for police officer to harass people and get away with it? And where can you go for help, other than a civil attorney?"

And the answer was:

"It is not easy. In California we average one cop for every 2000 people. About 60% of those cops are on patrol, where we do most of the harassing. One-fifth of that 60% are on duty at any moment and available for harassing people. So, one on duty cop is responsible to harass about 10,000 residents. When you toss in the commercial, business, and tourist locations that attract people from other areas, sometimes you have a situation where a single cop is responsible to try to harass 20,000+ people a day.

A ten hour shift runs 36,000 seconds. This gives a cop only one second to harass a person, and three-fourths of a second to eat a donut AND find a new person to harass. This is not an easy task. Most cops are not up to it day in and day out. It is just too tiring.

Since you now understand why we cannot harass everyone let me explain briefly what we do to utilize some special "tools" to help us narrow down who we harass, so we can focus our limited "harassing resources" to those most worthy individuals. They are as follows:

The Phone:
People will call us up and point out things that cause us to focus
on another person for special (concentrated) harassment. "My ex-husband just beat me and my boyfriend up and he is barricaded in the bedroom with our baby and a gun, or "My neighbor is beating up his wife and she is screaming for help" are a couple code phrases that are frequently employed. Then we come out and give special harassment to the wife beater. Another popular one on weekends is "My neighbors are out of town and their kids are having a loud party."

Cars:
We have special cops assigned to harass people who drive; They usually ride motorcycles so they can get around fast or cut through traffic to harass as many people as possible in their given shift. They like to harass the drivers of fast cars, cars blasting music, cars with expired registration tabs, and the like. It is lots of fun when we pick them out of traffic for nothing more obvious then running a red light, going around railroad crossing arms, or driving 20+ MPH over the posted limit in a school zone. Sometimes we get to really heap the harassment on when we find they have drugs in their car, are driving drunk, are unlicensed or have an arrest warrant!

Runners:
Some people take off running at the mere sight of a uniformed police officer. Nothing is quite as satisfying as running after them like a trained
beagle on the scent of a bunny. When we catch them, gosh darn it if there isn't always some good reason to harass them for hours!

Codes:
When we can think of nothing else to do, there are books that give us
ideas for reasons to harass folks. They are called Codes, Penal, Vehicle, Health and Safety, Business and Professions... They each spell out all sorts of silly things for which we can really mess with people. After we study these code books, we can just drive around for a while until we find someone violating one of the listed offenses and heap on the harassment! Just last week I saw a guy smash several car windows right in front of me. Well, believe it or not, one of the code books says that is not allowed. That meant I automatically got to harass this guy...of course he didn't like it, because just when I got done harassing him, the jail deputies harassed him and that will likely continue until the judge harasses him, then he will probably be harassed by a probation officer for the next couple of years. It is a pretty cool system that we have set up, and it works very well most of the time. We seem to have a never ending supply of folks to harass, and we "get away with it" because the good citizens pay the tab for us to keep the streets safe for them...and your civil attorney.

Next time you are in my town, give me a "single finger wave". That is a secret signal that you wish for me to take a closer look at you, and maybe find a reason to harass you.