VE Wagon.

[SUPERH2377]

for those who think they are having delays i have found this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTNU4Mp5vo

top stuff at least we get a laugh

[bee444]

ordered my ssv wag a week ago and was talking to the dealer today and he said that someone had decided to get a sedan instead so he slipped my order in its place, jumping about 20 spots on the list. he was probably feeding me a load of crap but it made me happy i just cant wait......

[Canters]

I understand that carrier trucks loaded full of VE wagons are now leaving Adelaide!!!

[ash3]

I understand that carrier trucks loaded full of VE wagons are now leaving Adelaide!!!

Don't be a tease!

[Canters]

Don't be a tease!

No tease.....a mate of mine rang from Adelaide to say he saw a couple of Toll freight trucks full of VE wagons.....unsure where they were heading.

[Holden Man]

White & Black >
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/SSVWagWhiteBlkRoofStripeBlkWhls366.jpg

[theVman]

Nice stripe combo Holden Man - that looks quite striking. Certainly helps the back end. Even with a white roof and just the side stripes I reckon it would look good.

[iloveholden]

White & Black >
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/SSVWagWhiteBlkRoofStripeBlkWhls366.jpg

I like it,

Holden Man, you done it again :lol:

[weekendwarrior]

i know a guy who did actually see a truckload of VE wagons rolling out of Adeleide earlier this week :D So can't be to long.

I did a photoshop using the sports wagon and the front end of an R8 to make a better picture of the HSV tourer then the little pieice of crap that HSV have given us but can't post it until i get over 10 posts.....

[shane W Z]

Very nice Holdenman!!

[blackbettyhsv]

holden man can you do one in red with white stripe like starsky & hutch

[Holden Man]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/SSVWagWhiteBlkStripe.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/SSVWagRedBlkRoofWhiteStripe.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/SSVWagBlueBlkStripe.jpg

HSV Tourer with new optional HSV 20"
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/TOURERHSVBothWhiteStdWhls.jpg

HSV Tourer with new optional HSV 20" (in black)
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/TOURERHSVBothWhiteBlackWhls.jpg

All black
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/TOURERHSVBackBlackWhls.jpg

[blackbettyhsv]

god damn how hard would it be now for anyone ordering a wagon

[WW-VFSSVR]

Great job Holdenman....

I see on the Holden Web Site they are drip feeding accessories...18" x 8" Challenge alloy wheels - $ 2600.00

[NickS]

Damn ... serious skills there Dan.

:bow:

Black on Black looks sensational, but just too hard with a daily driver and kids, I still reckon mine looks best;

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll24/choppedit/NickSWagonSSVwhiteBlkWhls.jpg

Can't wait ...

:smilesandbanana:

Edit ... I have to say, the HSV pics above have me thinking that badge removal might be an option.

[seangell]

Drove past Elizabeth today, and for those who know the area there is a bunch of wagons in all forms and colours sitting in the lot along Phillip Hwy, closest to the Staff car park at Roundabout end...

Snapped a couple pics with my superfantastical phone camera...

Here is a couple of Omega's perhaps...

http://www.stormchase-wa.com/gallery/albums/random/normal_P02-07-08_12_20.jpg

Bigger: http://www.stormchase-wa.com/gallery/albums/random/P02-07-08_12_20.jpg

And here in the middle is an SS... cant tell from the pic, but it definately had the SS badging near the rear wheel.

http://www.stormchase-wa.com/gallery/albums/random/normal_P02-07-08_12_21.jpg

Bigger: http://www.stormchase-wa.com/gallery/albums/random/P02-07-08_12_21.jpg


There was probably 10 rows of 9 to 10 cars... so maybe 100 of them. There was also a Viva wagon or 2 parked amongst them...

Hopefully someone will get better pics of them!

Simon

[Canters]

Drove past Elizabeth today, and for those who know the area there is a bunch of wagons in all forms and colours sitting in the lot along Phillip Hwy, closest to the Staff car park at Roundabout end...

Snapped a couple pics with my superfantastical phone camera...

Here is a couple of Omega's perhaps...


And here in the middle is an SS... cant tell from the pic, but it definately had the SS badging near the rear wheel.

There was probably 10 rows of 9 to 10 cars... so maybe 100 of them. There was also a Viva wagon or 2 parked amongst them...

Hopefully someone will get better pics of them!

Simon

Good get, pity the middle beam of the fence was in the way.......

[weekendwarrior]

SS wagon looks awesome!

Anyway, i've been a bit obsessed with the upcoming HSV Tourer wags, but could only find one small shitty picture, so i decided to make my own :D This is the first version so i've still got a few little things to fix up.

used the body parts of this Clubby
http://i25.tinypic.com/2eyykia.jpg
and chucked them onto this sports wagon.
http://i31.tinypic.com/10wo214.jpg


http://i26.tinypic.com/2lo0l85.png
http://i25.tinypic.com/2a95qnp.png
http://i30.tinypic.com/2sajdqf.png
http://i29.tinypic.com/pqb12.png
http://i26.tinypic.com/2v1kegi.png

[Calais V 6.0]

Can we get some wood paneling on the side of these puppies?:p

[Brass Munky]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/SSVWagWhiteBlkStripe.jpg

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/SSVWagBlueBlkStripe.jpg


That looks awesome, love the rims

[old holden V8]

Wow! Finally, they are here!

Now, given the numerous mentions made by Holden management, will we see DoD as a sort of 'surprise' Sportwagon inclusion?

Be a real good marketing ploy, perhaps to counter any foothold the new 'G' series may/may not have? Not to mention keep the 8 cylinder sales firing, given the price of fuel?

Cheers

Laurie

:)

[iloveholden]

I cant wait to see these things running around, especially the HSV verson, looks very nice.

Holden Man i like the all black verson :)

[The-V8-Power]

Weekendwarrior and Holdenman great work on the chops:)
Looks like they will be released this month after they said May then June. Looks like a certainty now. :smilesandbanana:

[SUPERH2377]

the tail lights look shithot better than yhe standard ones are they the hsv or just a photoshop i assume they are lcd tail-stop cant tell with the blinkers

[weekendwarrior]

thanks guys, if i get bored tomorrow i might try and make a modded version of the HSV

[seangell]

Further to my pics from the other day, Drove past again today and saw some blokes in bright yellow vests going over the lot of Wagons, and there had been a further addition of 10 of them to the other side of the parking lot..

Then driving through salisbury I saw a white omega wagon with trade plates crusing around... Fella driving it looked more like a sales man rather then a tester...


Oh, on a side note, also saw the Premier head into his office (didnt realise it was in salisbury lol) and i must say, that is one very nice Caprice/Statesman he gets driven around in, which is closely followed by a white omega with tinted windows, a bunch of aerials and a couple of LED boxes in the top of the rear window.... APS no doubt.

Me again, Well drove poast again today and the lot is now at least 2/3rds full...

Showed the missus and she "Really likes" them... now to start convincing her to get one.. mwhahaha

[Butscut]

Hi Guys, As you will see I'm a complete noob to this forum, so please bear with me. Have been reading through this forum for a week now and think its great, and particularly like the renders that have been produced of the new VE Sportswagon.

The reason for my interest is that I have recently purchased a new VE Calais Wagon on 19" Voloce rims in Karma and have been unable to find a representative picture of what this will look like. And before I get swamped with emails pointing me to the motor show images, I've seen them and they suck (quality that is).

The local dealer has a Ute in Karma and it hardly has any green in it but rather a metalicy blue colour with only a hint of green. Also the HSV website shows a vehicle in the same colour and its render just looks straight dark grey.

Has anyone seen a decent image of what I have bought......I simply can't stand the waiting !!

PS Anyone got any idea when these things are hitting the showroom ?

[GETUTED]

I have to say, the HSV pics above have me thinking that badge removal might be an option.

:teach: yep, badgeless is the way to go.

[hyper24]

Second that.

[CharlieDontSurf]

AFM wont come on the first batch of sportwagons according to carpoint but will be released "later this year" Article also talks about diesel epica and monofuel lpg commodore development

[ash3]

Just got a build date from the dealer today of July 7 for mine so I should see it a little while after that.

Can't quite believe it's actually happening. :)


So........ am I the only one hoping NewVLT's car got built today? (and hopefully mine was next behind it in the line :) )

[mac06]

And before I get swamped with emails pointing me to the motor show images, I've seen them and they suck (quality that is).


Has anyone seen a decent image of what I have bought......I simply can't stand the waiting !!

PS Anyone got any idea when these things are hitting the showroom ?

Well that's about as good as it gets under lights. There are other pics of the colour Karma on here, but in a Wagon this is it.

Australian LS1 and Holden Forums - View Single Post - VE SS/SSV in karma or voodoo metallic (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=1198864&postcount=10)

[Vulture]

Has anyone seen a decent image of what I have bought......I simply can't stand the waiting !!

Sadly, it is an awful colour. Hence the reason there are no good images of it. :hide:
In direct light it is half ok, otherwise it falls flat. Good luck with resale.

[Butscut]

Sadly, it is an awful colour. Hence the reason there are no good images of it. :hide:
In direct light it is half ok, otherwise it falls flat. Good luck with resale.

Vulture, thanks for the advise ;-)

As many people have stated on this forum, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and there are many people who have seen a ute or sedan in the flesh that reckon the Karma is pretty sweet. I guess only time will tell.

[iloveholden]

Sadly, it is an awful colour. Hence the reason there are no good images of it. :hide:
In direct light it is half ok, otherwise it falls flat. Good luck with resale.

Im with you, although car colours is a personal thing, for me karma's to flat for me, go voodoo blue instead haha

[Butscut]

Im with you, although car colours is a personal thing, for me karma's to flat for me, go voodoo blue instead haha

And I thought this was a Holden forum........OK I will say it slowly.....Calais Wagons don't come in voodoo......

[NewVLT]

The reason for my interest is that I have recently purchased a new VE Calais Wagon on 19" Voloce rims in Karma and have been unable to find a representative picture of what this will look like. And before I get swamped with emails pointing me to the motor show images, I've seen them and they suck (quality that is).

The local dealer has a Ute in Karma and it hardly has any green in it but rather a metalicy blue colour with only a hint of green. Also the HSV website shows a vehicle in the same colour and its render just looks straight dark grey.

Has anyone seen a decent image of what I have bought......I simply can't stand the waiting !!

PS Anyone got any idea when these things are hitting the showroom ?

You sound exactly like me. Driving from dealer to dealer trying to spot anything in Karma to put my mind at rest that I chose the right colour. :)
I've only seen a couple of Omega's in Karma in the flesh and as I said in the post where I put the pic of the motorshow Calais up I reckon big Supersports and the extra chrome on the Calais should really set the colour off.

Just do a search in Karma and you'll see a few SS utes pop up recently on the site. I think they look okay. Not as in your face as the brighter colours.

I doubt there'll be a problem with resale. It's the best of their current standard (non-SS) colours I reckon. Still, each to their own....and a Calais in Voodoo would be just wrong. :D


So........ am I the only one hoping NewVLT's car got built today? (and hopefully mine was next behind it in the line :) )

No, you're not the only one ! :)
I was hoping that too but my mate on the inside said they fitted no wagons with 20" Supersports today so I guess I'm out of luck.

About one in every two cars down the line now is a wagon apparently. Must be building up for a wagon launch of some kind later this week if you read the comment on the media embargo placed on the wagon drive day in another article posted elsewhere on this site on alternate fuel Holdens.

[v8mumbo]

:teach: yep, badgeless is the way to go.

I third that...

I've been driving a badgeless Gen II V8 since new.
Its a Q-car with no V8 badges, standard exhaust & no flashy fat low profile wheels. As a result the Cops leave me alone.http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Canters]

I remember reading a while ago that 9 July was (finally) going to be the VE wagon release date........that's today!!!

Haven't seen any publicity, media releases etc.......

Or was I wrong??

[teamkiwi]

Apparently media releases are this friday, and it wil offically be on sale from next week according to carpoint and goauto. I Just wish that they would hurry up though.

[NickS]

Apparently mine will commence production 9th August ... delivery around the 22nd (I knew it wouldn't be July ...)

:bawl:

The wait is killing me.

[ash3]

I've been given a delivery date of the 12th of August today.

[apt ssv]

Yeah seen a few of the SSV wagons in the Holding yard at holden Hq they look sh#t hot for a wagon.

[Butscut]

I've been given a delivery date of the 12th of August today.

What date did you place your order ?

[ash3]

What date did you place your order ?

1st week of June, but, I selected a car which was already on order from the dealership.

[Butscut]

1st week of June, but, I selected a car which was already on order from the dealership.

Sounds as if I still have a long wait for my Calais given that I ordered it in the 2nd week of june :bawl:. Be sure to post some pics when it arrives ;-)

[NewVLT]

Did anyone catch the piece Ch.10 Adelaide News did on the wagons last night ? Missed it unfortunately.

[The-V8-Power]

Article here:
http://carpoint.com.au/car-review/2956264.aspx
Just says how the release is very close and has some very nice pics.

Heres a few to save time for others:
Omega:
http://tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?S=ISS&wmin=carpoint&PD=19113043
Berlina:
http://tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?S=ISS&wmin=carpoint&PD=19113041
SV6:
http://tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?S=ISS&wmin=carpoint&PD=19113038
SS:
http://tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?S=ISS&wmin=carpoint&PD=19113034
SS-V:
http://tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?S=ISS&wmin=carpoint&PD=19113032
Calais:
http://tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?S=ISS&wmin=carpoint&PD=19113030
Calais-V:
http://tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?S=ISS&wmin=carpoint&PD=19113025

[CLUBRED]

I don't like the new wheels...

[teamkiwi]

Im still really dissapointed that the Luxury models dont have the chrome window surrounds. What would it have cost to add it on? $20 - $50? im sure most customers wouldnt have mind paying that extra dollars to really offset their wagon. Take a look at the Mazda 6 Wagon with the chrome highlights...It makes it look very classy. Anyone know the reason why iit wasnt added??? Otherwise its a bloody good looking wagon!

Are roof rails going to be available?

[ash3]

Roof "Racks" are an option, not too sure about roof rails. It would be good if they were as they do seem to fit in well with the euro wagon styling.
Bit disappointed that the SV6 does not come with a MP3 compatible stereo, I've just sent an email off to the dealer hoping I can upgrade the stereo without effecting my delivery date!

[Black_Utester]

Roof "Racks" are an option, not too sure about roof rails. It would be good if they were as they do seem to fit in well with the euro wagon styling.
Bit disappointed that the SV6 does not come with a MP3 compatible stereo, I've just sent an email off to the dealer hoping I can upgrade the stereo without effecting my delivery date!

Ash, what do you mean by Mp3 compatible stereo? If I am not mistaken, doesn't the SV6 have an auxillary port for ipods and mp3's. At least the sedan variant does.

[ash3]

Yep its definitely got the aux point to plug in my MP3 player (I've got an N95 so I guess that would work) but I was more hoping for a CD player that could read MP3 rather than having a cord hanging out of the dash. (I know I'm being picky) :)
Mind you I'll deal with a cord out of the dash if it pushers back my delivery date lol

[Black_Utester]

OIC - you'll find that these standard Blaupunkt strereos aren't much chop and won't have that functionality.

[ash3]

OIC - you'll find that these standard Blaupunkt strereos aren't much chop and won't have that functionality.

Cool Cool, just noticed you have an SV6, did you upgrade the stereo or do you have the standard Blaupunkt?

Cheers mate.

[Black_Utester]

Cool Cool, just noticed you have an SV6, did you upgrade the stereo or do you have the standard Blaupunkt?

Cheers mate.


Just kept the standard - like my music and that but not really interested in having the best stereo/speaker system etc. Standard is sufficient for me as long as I can hook up the I-pod to it and have x amount of hours of music for the long trips.

[ash3]

Just kept the standard - like my music and that but not really interested in having the best stereo/speaker system etc. Standard is sufficient for me as long as I can hook up the I-pod to it and have x amount of hours of music for the long trips.


Thanks for the info, good to know.

[CSP]

Bad form Holden for not putting the chrome window surrounds on the Calais and Calais-V.

[The Brock]

Definately on their way now !! Finally !!

I've got a (Fleet) drive day on August 6 at AHG Complex here in Perth; so no doubt they'll be the fleet evaluation cars doing the rounds for us fleet people... at least we now know their arrival is very close !!!

Can't wait...

[NewVLT]

Bad form Holden for not putting the chrome window surrounds on the Calais and Calais-V.

I'm hoping the black surrounds they do have fitted are at least made of metal.
If they're plastic there's no hope of getting them chromed (or polished if they're stainless).

The door belt strips should be the same as the sedan so I can at least order those but it'd look weird without fixing the rest.

The prototype looked so classy with them I'm really at a loss as to why they'd leave them out.

[teamkiwi]

Carpoint have released there drive review of the Sportwagon early, with a few more pics.

Holden VE Commodore Sportwagon range (http://www.carpoint.com.au/car-review/2956457.aspx)

Holden Sportwagon Press Releases (http://media.gm.com/aus/holden/en/news/press/pr_recent/)

Holden Sportwagon Photos (http://media.gm.com/wieck/divisions/holden/)

[sandmanls1]

drive review here.

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=54661

car advice here

http://www.caradvice.com.au/14358/2008-holden-sportwagon-first-steer/

[V-Car]

I hadnt realised just how much less cargo space the VE had over the VZ.
VE seat folded 2000 litres, seat up 895 litres.
VZ seat folded 2752 litres, seat up 1402 litres.

[Devil]

I'm hoping the black surrounds they do have fitted are at least made of metal.
If they're plastic there's no hope of getting them chromed (or polished if they're stainless).



You can chrome plastic. I used a guy in Adelaide to chrome some plastic parts for my car and it looks fantastic. PM me for details if you are interested.

Cheers,
Dan

[NewVLT]

I hadnt realised just how much less cargo space the VE had over the VZ.
VE seat folded 2000 litres, seat up 895 litres.
VZ seat folded 2752 litres, seat up 1402 litres.

Don't be too discouraged by that. A lot of the extra volume in the VZ wagon was in roof height (almost Sandman-ish in height) and you wouldn't often load a car up so that things are scraping on the headlining.

[NickS]

I hadnt realised just how much less cargo space the VE had over the VZ.
VE seat folded 2000 litres, seat up 895 litres.
VZ seat folded 2752 litres, seat up 1402 litres.

I guess that might turn some off ... but it's actually the reason I placed an order. If it was as big as the old wagons I wouldn't want one.

Can't wait ... the rims are being painted any day now, the brakes are ready, it will go in for suspension as soon as I get it, off to CHE for an exhaust, run it for a while then into Sonny for an OTR and a tune.

:eyes:

[NewVLT]

You can chrome plastic. I used a guy in Adelaide to chrome some plastic parts for my car and it looks fantastic. PM me for details if you are interested.

Shall do Dan. Thanks. This was going to be one car I was supposed to be happy with out of the box. No mods, no fiddling with. Apparently not now. :)

[NonSense]

I just saw the New SV6 wagon @ Booran Holden in Dandenong Looks great in Karma!

[Highway]

Can't wait ... the rims are being painted any day now, the brakes are ready, it will go in for suspension as soon as I get it, off to CHE for an exhaust, run it for a while then into Sonny for an OTR and a tune.

:eyes:[/QUOTE]

Nick what sort of wheels,brakes and suspension are you putting on.

How low is it going to be ?

Dont get me wrong I like/want one of Sonnys OTR's but is it true that you loose 5kw-7kw when you shut the bonnet.

Ah...... can't wait for my one

Mike

[iloveholden]

I guess that might turn some off ... but it's actually the reason I placed an order. If it was as big as the old wagons I wouldn't want one.

Can't wait ... the rims are being painted any day now, the brakes are ready, it will go in for suspension as soon as I get it, off to CHE for an exhaust, run it for a while then into Sonny for an OTR and a tune.

:eyes:

Sounds interesting Nick :)

[Butscut]

I just saw the New SV6 wagon @ Booran Holden in Dandenong Looks great in Karma!

Thats very encouraging. I took a punt and bought a Karma Calais wagon sight unseen. A bit of a gamble but when I saw the Karma Ute in the flesh I thought the colour would look pretty sexy on a wagon. I don't suppose you took any photos that you could upload ?


I just saw the New SV6 wagon @ Booran Holden in Dandenong Looks great in Karma!

Smiths Holden in Geelong put a white Calais V Wagon on the showroom floor at 3pm today, and even though I hate white, I reckon it would look great lowered, debadged with black wheels.

Winter and Taylor (also in Geelong) phoned me this arvo to let me know that they have a Calais V in Evoke going on the showroom floor today.

Looks as though the flood gates are finally opening :xmas:

Will try and get some pictures to post here over the weekend.

[xploit]

:worthless:

[Butscut]

:worthless:

Jeez....give us a moment, the first cars only hit the showrooms 50mins ago :eyes:

[The-V8-Power]

Found these for ya mate:
http://us.tnpv.net/2008/GMC200807/GMC2008071038027_PV.jpg
http://us.tnpv.net/2008/GMC200807/GMC2008071038045_PV.jpg
http://us.tnpv.net/2008/GMC200807/GMC2008071037948_PV.jpg

[Butscut]

Found these for ya mate:


Very, very, nice.....but now your really teasing me. tic toc tic toc Should look even better with my 19 or 20" alloys and blacked out windows....

What does everyone else think of the Wagons in this colour ?

[SecretSquirrel]

While that does look good, I reckon the chrome strips around the windows looked a WHOLE lot better.

Si

[NickS]

Smiths Holden in Geelong put a white Calais V Wagon on the showroom floor at 3pm today, and even though I hate white, I reckon it would look great lowered, debadged with black wheels.

:bow: ... my plans exactly, except on an SSV (I wanted a manual ...)

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll24/choppedit/NickSWagonSSVwhiteBlkWhls.jpg

Only a month or so to go ... this sucks !!!

Pics please anyone that has access.

:D


Nick what sort of wheels,brakes and suspension are you putting on.

How low is it going to be ?

Dont get me wrong I like/want one of Sonnys OTR's but is it true that you loose 5kw-7kw when you shut the bonnet.

Ah...... can't wait for my one

Mike

See above ...

Won't be too low, it still needs to be practicle. Rims are E Series GTS rims (painted dark metallic graphite) and brakes are E Series HSV AP brakes.

AFAIK there is no loss of power with the Orrsom OTR ... not that I really care. We have one on the GTS and I love it.

:thumbsup:

[Highway]

Yer Nick tossed up about the white but went with the Silver.
Sick of having dark cars so the silver is the go for me.

Like the wheels you are getting might get some as well.

Are you getting coilovers I suppose.

I use mine for work so it has to be practical and not to hard in the suspension.

Mike

[NewVLT]

Very, very, nice.....but now your really teasing me. tic toc tic toc Should look even better with my 19 or 20" alloys and blacked out windows....

What does everyone else think of the Wagons in this colour ?

Looks the pick of the of the bunch to me, but I'm biased. More Euro than the SS colours. Changes the look of the car entirely.

Really needs that chrome side window strip to distinguish it from the povvo packs though. :(

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b140/NewVLT/ride-handling-193.jpg

[Butscut]

Looks the pick of the of the bunch to me, but I'm biased. More Euro than the SS colours. Changes the look of the car entirely.

Really needs that chrome side window strip to distinguish it from the povvo packs though. :(


Sounds like you have purchased the same vehicle as me. Guess the race is now on for delivery and bragging rights ! Will definately look sweet with 20" wheels. May have to up my 19" Veloce to 20" supersports to make up for the tragic loss of the chrome window surround. :vpo:

Anyone got any idea how much it is likely to cost to have the chroming done after market ?

[NewVLT]

Sounds like you have purchased the same vehicle as me. Guess the race is now on for delivery and bragging rights ! Will definately look sweet with 20" wheels. May have to up my 19" Veloce to 20" supersports to make up for the tragic loss of the chrome window surround. :vpo:

Anyone got any idea how much it is likely to cost to have the chroming done after market ?

Pretty much I think by the sounds of it.
The Veloce's are the hex spoked ones aren't they. They look great in the accessories brochure. Not sure I've seen too many on the road either.

If the black surrounds are just painted stainless steel they should polish up well, like most of the strips on my VL Calais. I'm really hoping they're not plastic.

[Butscut]

If the black surrounds are just painted stainless steel they should polish up well, like most of the strips on my VL Calais. I'm really hoping they're not plastic.

I'm no expert on this kind of stuff, and would appreciate it if one of you guys could check out a vehicle in the showroom over th weekend and let me know what you think the surrounds are made from, and suggest whether they are likely to polish up OK.

I guess the problem will be if the material changes around the rear window area.

[iloveholden]

I reckon Nicks design looks the best so far, just dont debadge it, will looks like an omega then i reckon, just my 2c.

[NickS]

I reckon Nicks design looks the best so far, just dont debadge it, will looks like an omega then i reckon, just my 2c.

That's a good point ... I have always hated that. Not sure yet, they will stay on at first and I'll have a think.

:cheers:

[Vulture]

Nick, no need to debadge it, will look great and not like an Omega wagon with big wheels and brakes.

[Canters]

I just saw the New SV6 wagon @ Booran Holden in Dandenong Looks great in Karma!

Has anyone seen the wagon at any other Melbourne dealers (preferably Eastern suburbs.......Dandenong is a fair hike for me).

[gravel express]

I take delivery of my SSV wagon this thursday coming up, black in color and like Nick I have a set of E series GTS wheels sitting at home for the last four months waiting to go on it along with some King Super Low Springs. The Harrop 4 piston brake kit wont be ready for five weeks which is a pity. Its hard when my actual car is sitting in the front window of the local dealer and I cant have it yet, it looks a bit desperate if I go in there everyday to look at it:bawl:. They tell me they are not allowed to deliver it until every dealer in Vic (or maybe Aust) has one in their show room.

[bee444]

cant wait to see soe pics of your wag when you get it, I am waiting on my black ssv wagon with supersports. I still havent seen any good photos of one in black. regarding the springs do kings list them yet for the wagon as i have been waiting for a reply from lovell but nothing yet.

[NickS]

Nick, no need to debadge it, will look great and not like an Omega wagon with big wheels and brakes.

I think you're right mate ... thanks for the input. You have truly exceptional taste in cars so I'll definitely pay attention to any thoughts you have.

:yup:


I take delivery of my SSV wagon this thursday coming up, black in color and like Nick I have a set of E series GTS wheels sitting at home for the last four months waiting to go on it along with some King Super Low Springs.

Sensational ... can I ask how long you have had your order in place ? I'm insanely jealous that you are getting yours so quick !!!

Pics ASAP please ... congrats bud.

:cheers:

[gravel express]

Paid a deposit about 4 months ago, originally said it would turn up end of may then we were told production wouldnt start until mid june. The dealer got ours on Thursday just gone and it is the only wagon they have, I dont think they were expecting it to turn up this soon either. I suppose we will see if they are true to their word regarding delivery next week. I think i may have gone a bit too far with the King Super Low springs, may have to go back to just "low" if it starts to scrub.


I think you're right mate ... thanks for the input. You have truly exceptional taste in cars so I'll definitely pay attention to any thoughts you have.

:yup:



Sensational ... can I ask how long you have had your order in place ? I'm insanely jealous that you are getting yours so quick !!!

Pics ASAP please ... congrats bud.

:cheers:
I would be happy to post some pics of it when I get it but becuse I dont get on the forums much I cant post attachments, maybe I could email some pics to someone who can upload them.


cant wait to see soe pics of your wag when you get it, I am waiting on my black ssv wagon with supersports. I still havent seen any good photos of one in black. regarding the springs do kings list them yet for the wagon as i have been waiting for a reply from lovell but nothing yet.
I am taking a gamble with the springs and are using a set from a sedan, I dont think they make them yet for the wagon, I have been told that the sedan and ute springs are interchangeable so I am guessing it will be the same with the wagon given it is based on the same wheel base. Having said that, in the Herald Sun fridays cars guide they did a speel on the wagon and said there have been some changes to the suspension both front and rear so I could be screwed. Will just have to wait and see, I will let you all know either way when it gets fitted. The dealer is putting the springs and wheels on for me so the car is ready to go at delivery time.

[Dickie Knee]

I am taking a gamble with the springs and are using a set from a sedan, I dont think they make them yet for the wagon, I have been told that the sedan and ute springs are interchangeable so I am guessing it will be the same with the wagon given it is based on the same wheel base.

Part number for the rear springs on omega wagon is the same as omega ute.

[gravel express]

Thanks for that Dickie, now as long as I havent gone too low!! Can you tell me if the brakes on the wagon are the same as the sedan?

[WW-VFSSVR]

What are everyones thoughts about the luggage space inside? I knew that the area was going to be smaller than the VZ but when inspecting an Omega I noticed the width is down as well :confused:

I have an SV6 on order Oct delivery due to my current lease, and I am very happy on the looks of the car, but I think I may be disappointed by the room in the rear.

[Holden Man]

For the Karma Lovers ! >
(Chrome surround looks sssoooo much better on luxury versions / it should've been there from factory)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/CalaisVWagonKarmaLowered.jpg

Sporty models don't need the chrome surround IMO >

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/SV6WagonGreenLowered.jpg

[NewVLT]

For the Karma Lovers ! >
(Chrome surround looks sssoooo much better on luxury versions / it should've been there from factory)

Well done Holden Man. Thanks.
Do you mind if I forward that Calais pic to my dealer to try and get a "please explain" from Holden ?

[teamkiwi]

Definately looks a lot better with the chrome surrounds. Can you photoshop some roof rails similar to those on the Mazda 6 Holden Man???

[Holden Man]

Well done Holden Man. Thanks.
Do you mind if I forward that Calais pic to my dealer to try and get a "please explain" from Holden ?

Not at all / I don't think it will achieve anything though !.

I reckon they will make an appearance on the series 2 version (or whatever they call it!).

[NewVLT]

Not at all / I don't think it will achieve anything though !.

I reckon they will make an appearance on the series 2 version (or whatever they call it!).

You're right, at least it'll show them we're not happy.....so that it appears on VF wagons. :)

[Vulture]

I think you're right mate ... thanks for the input. You have truly exceptional taste in cars so I'll definitely pay attention to any thoughts you have.

:yup:


Not sure if you are taking the piss or not? My taste has been brought into question many times in so far as loose women was concerned, however.

[NewVLT]

A couple of interesting things cropped up just a minute ago with a call from the dealer, and none of it good.

1. It seems the 20" Supersport wheels aren't approved for the wagon at this stage and as such they won't be offering them as an accessory. I can't remember if it's all wagons or just the V8 optioned cars. Something to do with load limits and the potential loads a wagon could carry. They're going to fix me up with them but I'll have to sign a waiver.

2. Luxury Car Tax - Seems that even though the legislation for the 8% increase was held over until a later date they'll still have to collect the extra and refund it later if it doesn't go through.

Is this the case ? Seems a bit strange that the government would backdate legislation on something like this. It'd have car dealers all over the country holding money in accounts for something that may never happen. Has anyone heard anything about this ?

Today started off so well....... :vpo:

[bee444]

I have ordered supersports on mine so I guess i will be getting a call from the dealer soon then.
I dont know much about LCT but the dealer i have ordered through didnt add anything but another was going to add about $500 i think??

[mac06]

A couple of interesting things cropped up just a minute ago with a call from the dealer, and none of it good.

1. It seems the 20" Supersport wheels aren't approved for the wagon at this stage and as such they won't be offering them as an accessory. I can't remember if it's all wagons or just the V8 optioned cars. Something to do with load limits and the potential loads a wagon could carry. They're going to fix me up with them but I'll have to sign a waiver.

2. Luxury Car Tax - Seems that even though the legislation for the 8% increase was held over until a later date they'll still have to collect the extra and refund it later if it doesn't go through.

Is this the case ? Seems a bit strange that the government would backdate legislation on something like this. It'd have car dealers all over the country holding money in accounts for something that may never happen. Has anyone heard anything about this ?

Today started off so well....... :vpo:

That is correct. This link to the ATO web site covers that.

http://www.ato.gov.au/taxprofessionals/content.asp?doc=/Content/00144892.htm

[Highway]

A couple of interesting things cropped up just a minute ago with a call from the dealer, and none of it good.

1. It seems the 20" Supersport wheels aren't approved for the wagon at this stage and as such they won't be offering them as an accessory. I can't remember if it's all wagons or just the V8 optioned cars. Something to do with load limits and the potential loads a wagon could carry. They're going to fix me up with them but I'll have to sign a waiver.

2. Luxury Car Tax - Seems that even though the legislation for the 8% increase was held over until a later date they'll still have to collect the extra and refund it later if it doesn't go through.

Is this the case ? Seems a bit strange that the government would backdate legislation on something like this. It'd have car dealers all over the country holding money in accounts for something that may never happen. Has anyone heard anything about this ?

Today started off so well....... :vpo:

See if the dealer can rework the figures so that luxury tax is not applicable.

[lowriding]

For the Karma Lovers ! >
(Chrome surround looks sssoooo much better on luxury versions / it should've been there from factory)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/CalaisVWagonKarmaLowered.jpg





You have outdone yourself there mate , that is brilliant . The question is why does Holden not do this factory and even the rims also why are these sorts of things on there ex - factory ,instead of regurgitating the same 2 - 3 year old ones ? :confused:These changes are simple not revolutionary nor i would think expensive but transform the look .

[NewVLT]

See if the dealer can rework the figures so that luxury tax is not applicable.

Base V8 Calais V is a long way over the threshold unfortunately.


That is correct. This link to the ATO web site covers that.
http://www.ato.gov.au/taxprofessionals/content.asp?doc=/Content/00144892.htm

I should have thought the government accountants would never come up with anything too easy to follow. Thanks for the link. Sounds like it will be backdated if it gets through.

"Umm, well it's not legislation yet but you can either charge the extra 8% in case it does come through, or not charge it in case it doesn't but we'll leave it up to you....oh, and good luck getting money out of your customers in three months time if you don't charge it now."

Sheesh !

[NickS]

Not sure if you are taking the piss or not? My taste has been brought into question many times in so far as loose women was concerned, however.

With the quality of posts of late I can see how you might think that ... but I can assure you I wasn't taking the piss.

The VZ and the GTS ... :bow: :drool:

[gravel express]

A couple of interesting things cropped up just a minute ago with a call from the dealer, and none of it good.

1. It seems the 20" Supersport wheels aren't approved for the wagon at this stage and as such they won't be offering them as an accessory. I can't remember if it's all wagons or just the V8 optioned cars. Something to do with load limits and the potential loads a wagon could carry. They're going to fix me up with them but I'll have to sign a waiver.

2. Luxury Car Tax - Seems that even though the legislation for the 8% increase was held over until a later date they'll still have to collect the extra and refund it later if it doesn't go through.

Is this the case ? Seems a bit strange that the government would backdate legislation on something like this. It'd have car dealers all over the country holding money in accounts for something that may never happen. Has anyone heard anything about this ?

Today started off so well....... :vpo:

Hi NewVLT, I am interested in point number 1 you made regarding the wheels. My wagon is sitting in the dealer at the moment, I will go in there tomorrow and compare the load ratings on the tyre placard with an equivalent sedan. I am putting a set of genuine HSV GTS 20" wheels on mine and I know they come factory fitted with heavier rated tyres. I had only assumed that since the wagon is based on the same platform as the sedan that the rating would be similar if not the same. I do know that the front swaybar on the wagon is thicker and the rear swaybar thinner than on a sedan.

[Butscut]

1. It seems the 20" Supersport wheels aren't approved for the wagon at this stage and as such they won't be offering them as an accessory. I can't remember if it's all wagons or just the V8 optioned cars. Something to do with load limits and the potential loads a wagon could carry. They're going to fix me up with them but I'll have to sign a waiver.


I originally ordered a set of 19's on my V6 Calais and upgraded this morning to GHM 20" Supersports and the dealer didn't mention anything. I have also just looked on the Holden website and 20" supersports are a listed genuine accessory for the SS, SSV, Calais and Berlina (but interestingly not the Omega or Calais V).

NewVLT, could be worth a call to the dealer to point this fact out to them.


For the Karma Lovers ! >
(Chrome surround looks sssoooo much better on luxury versions / it should've been there from factory)

HoldenMan - Many thanks for the Karma Picture. Now I really am salivating !!! :bow:

[V8SSVWAGON]

I think that the Chrome surrounds will look equally as trick on a Phantom SSV...I will definaitley be heading down that track.

[NewVLT]

I originally ordered a set of 19's on my V6 Calais and upgraded this morning to GHM 20" Supersports and the dealer didn't mention anything. I have also just looked on the Holden website and 20" supersports are a listed genuine accessory for the SS, SSV, Calais and Berlina (but interestingly not the Omega or Calais V).

NewVLT, could be worth a call to the dealer to point this fact out to them.

When he phoned I pointed out that it'll cause a bit of confusion with those wheels listed in the standard VE accessory list but not be able to be optioned with wagons (like I said I can't remember if it was all wagons or just V8 wagons). He agreed.

The wagon weighs only 90kg more than the sedan so I don't think that's the issue. I've had some pretty massive weights in sedans over the years too but I think it's to cover their backside for the potential weight carrying ability of the wagons and to cover that one off bloke who'll load it full of bricks and potentially shatter/bend a rim when he goes over the first pothole.

You can order them seperately later through spare parts (for about double the price) and they don't care what you do with them, they just won't fit them on the production line and won't warrant them if you order them as part of your new car.

I'll see if I can get clarification as to whether it was all utes and wagons, or just V8 optioned cars.

[old holden V8]

When he phoned I pointed out that it'll cause a bit of confusion with those wheels listed in the standard VE accessory list but not be able to be optioned with wagons (like I said I can't remember if it was all wagons or just V8 wagons). He agreed.

The wagon weighs only 90kg more than the sedan so I don't think that's the issue. I've had some pretty massive weights in sedans over the years too but I think it's to cover their backside for the potential weight carrying ability of the wagons and to cover that one off bloke who'll load it full of bricks and potentially shatter/bend a rim when he goes over the first pothole.

You can order them seperately later through spare parts (for about double the price) and they don't care what you do with them, they just won't fit them on the production line and won't warrant them if you order them as part of your new car.

I'll see if I can get clarification as to whether it was all utes and wagons, or just V8 optioned cars.


I think you will find that was/is pretty much always has been the case due to the wagons increased *rated* load carrying capacity. It is probably to cover the fleet Omega buyers who may load them to their rated limit.

Cheers

Laurie.

[bee444]

just waiting on a call back from the dealer, as far as he knows the supersports are being deleted and replaced by a new wheel ( he received an email yesterday). but is unsure about the load limit thing so is checking it out now.

The holden website now has the full acc list, still shows s/sports for the ss but not the calais v or the ssv???

[iloveholden]

I think that the Chrome surrounds will look equally as trick on a Phantom SSV...I will definaitley be heading down that track.

Yeah i reckon that would look sweet :bow:

[NewVLT]

Sounds about right. The dealer just called again and the 20" Supersports won't be a factory option (ie fitted on the production line) on Omega, SS-V and Calais V wagons only. All others are okay to fit them to.

The latter two miss the maximum weight limitations by 2kg apparently.

[Highway]

Base V8 Calais V is a long way over the threshold unfortunately.



I should have thought the government accountants would never come up with anything too easy to follow. Thanks for the link. Sounds like it will be backdated if it gets through.

"Umm, well it's not legislation yet but you can either charge the extra 8% in case it does come through, or not charge it in case it doesn't but we'll leave it up to you....oh, and good luck getting money out of your customers in three months time if you don't charge it now."

Sheesh !


Check with the dealer.

He came to the party for me on the Calais V.

[bee444]

These are the new 20" wheels, same price as the s/sports. I still prefer the s/sports but each to there own
The dealer told me that I can still have the s/sports on my ssv the weight issue is now fixed????

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/1275greg/new20s1.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff150/1275greg/new20s.jpg

[CSP]

s/sport are still the best factory rim Holden have released in a LOOOOONG time IMO.

[gravel express]

I stopped in at the dealer today and had a look at the tyre placard on my SSV wagon. You must run a minimum of load rating 98 and speed rating of not less than "W". I have a brand new set of genuine VE GTS wheels ready to go on it but I'm not real keen on fitting them because the load rating on them is only 95 for the front and 97 for the back. Just a bit concerned about any insurance issues should the vehicle be involved in an accident. I then had a look on all the major tyre brand websites to try and locate 98 rated tyres in a 20" size and there is pretty much nothing available to suit the GTS rims.
98=750kgs
97=730kgs
95=690kgs
(Quoted from memory, I'm pretty sure thats right)
So at this stage I could be selling a brand new set of genuine VE GTS wheels and tyres well suited for a sedan, but not a wagon. Opinions on this issue are most welcome.:confused:

[NickS]

I stopped in at the dealer today and had a look at the tyre placard on my SSV wagon. You must run a minimum of load rating 98 and speed rating of not less than "W". I have a brand new set of genuine VE GTS wheels ready to go on it but I'm not real keen on fitting them because the load rating on them is only 95 for the front and 97 for the back. Just a bit concerned about any insurance issues should the vehicle be involved in an accident. I then had a look on all the major tyre brand websites to try and locate 98 rated tyres in a 20" size and there is pretty much nothing available to suit the GTS rims.
98=750kgs
97=730kgs
95=690kgs
(Quoted from memory, I'm pretty sure thats right)
So at this stage I could be selling a brand new set of genuine VE GTS wheels and tyres well suited for a sedan, but not a wagon. Opinions on this issue are most welcome.:confused:

Is the load rating 98 front and rear or rear only ? I can't see why the front would be any different (as you said ... sedan on 20's is 95 front / 97 rear) as the front of the wagon is essentially the same as the sedan ?

Anyway ... I just checked our tyres. We have Falken FK-452 on the GTS, I'm getting the same thing for the GTS rims I'm having painted up for the wagon.

Fronts are 245/35/20 95Y XL
Rears are 285/30/20 99Y XL

(XL stands for Extra Load)

They mount up to the rims perfectly, no alterations required to the guards, they cost around $1500 for the set and they grip as good as the factory Bridgestones (if not better ... I ran a 10.9 with a 1.5 60' on a set of these tyres) ... might be worth looking at ?

I'll still going with the GTS rims ...

:thumbsup:

[gravel express]

The load rating is 98 on both the front and rear, after talking with the Mrs about it I am also going to stick with the GTS wheels, I will look into those tyres you recommended though, thanks for that. At the end of the day my tyres fall short by 160 kgs over the four wheels. I still have a good 1000kgs to play with before I get near the maximum rating for the tyres.

[Butscut]

Anyone have any idea why Holden are listing the 20" supersport rims/tyres as $3500 for the wagon and only $3000 for the sedan ? Same is also true for the Veloce, they are $500 more on the Wagon. Is it possible this has something to do with Tyre ratings ?

[VESSV316]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb19/VUSSUTE316/14072008001.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb19/VUSSUTE316/14072008.jpg

[Butscut]

Whats the story with the silver wagon, is this yours or a demo ?

[gravel express]

How many times do you have to post before you can post images, I have a picture of my wagon here that I cant upload.

[Butscut]

How many times do you have to post before you can post images, I have a picture of my wagon here that I cant upload.

10 posts. Keep it up you must nearly be there !!

[gravel express]

Ok, here goes, had it lowered today with the Super Low KIng Springs, sits lovely. The GTS wheels look great and there is still plenty of clearance underneath so the Mrs wont bash it up against the carpark edges.

[Butscut]

Ok, here goes, had it lowered today with the Super Low KIng Springs, sits lovely. The GTS wheels look great and there is still plenty of clearance underneath so the Mrs wont bash it up against the carpark edges.

Mate - No Pictures !!!

[gravel express]

I know, it still wont let me, have come across some other threads that were interesting re: wheels and stuff. I'll just keep posting and get there in the end.

[VESSV316]

Whats the story with the silver wagon, is this yours or a demo ?

Its a car we got in at work, i work for a holden dealer

[bee444]

come on gravel express just post anything anywhere I need to see some pics of a wag lowered with nice wheels???

[V8SSVWAGON]

come on gravel express your killing us here....we want pics.

[bee444]

please pic, Ive been 3 days without smokes i cant handle any more stress!!!!

[BadMac]

You are on 14 posts now so you can post pictures. If not (for some unknown reason), just post the links but remove the www from the front (so the forums doesn't see them as links) and one of us can edit in the www for you.

[V8SSVWAGON]

maybe our legs are getting pulled :bawl:

[gravel express]

Now I am really feeling the pressure, my pc knowledge has let me down as I have no idea how to do what you are talking about, cant someone give me an email address and I'll send it to you to post. God help me if you guys think the pic is crap, you'll hang me!!

[BadMac]

Here you go.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/BadMac/Image041.jpg

[gravel express]

Thanks for that, will take delivery on Friday, get some good pics on the weekend and sort out my posting issues before then.:)

[ash3]

Very nice mate, I want mine now!!!! :bawl:

[V8SSVWAGON]

Shaweet....Hows she handle on the Super lows ?

SSV right....same as mine, can hardley wait.

What extras did you get from Craptory ?

So with Super Lows and 20's theres no scrubbin ? have you pushed her yet ?

If thers no scrubbin then its the super lows for me too, im leavin the SSV rims on painted Shadow Chrome for now until the misses scratches them up.

Whats next mod wise, tint that girl up.

Well done fist on LS1 to take delivery.....now whares mine I orderd 4 months ago.

[gravel express]

Shaweet....Hows she handle on the Super lows ?

SSV right....same as mine, can hardley wait.

What extras did you get from Craptory ?

So with Super Lows and 20's theres no scrubbin ? have you pushed her yet ?

If thers no scrubbin then its the super lows for me too, im leavin the SSV rims on painted Shadow Chrome for now until the misses scratches them up.

Whats next mod wise, tint that girl up.

Well done fist on LS1 to take delivery.....now whares mine I orderd 4 months ago.

I havent even sat in it yet, its not registered, been paid for but I dont get it until friday, dealer organised getting it lowerted I just supplied the springs and wheels. Windows get done on sunday morning. I would love to put one of LS1Turbos TT kits on it but the Mrs would have a coronary. I have a T1000 on my ute, she reckons thats enough. Maybe an exhaust down the track, it is very quiet as standard. Didnt get much choice as far as options go as the dealer already had it on order when we placed the deposit. Didnt worry about DVD or sat nav. Just wanted the car quick, and of course in my favorite colour, the only colour, "BLACK". Was surprised by how much ground clearance it has with super lows, there is still heaps of room underneath. Apparently Harrop have a 4 piston brake upgrade kit available in 5 or 6 weeks, that would fininsh it off nicely.

[Butscut]

Here you go.


To say that I am envious would be an understatement. You is one lucky b'srd and should be wrapped with you cool new ride. Agree with the previous post that a dark tint would certainly finish this off. Love the wheels by the way.

Tic toc tic toc.....still waiting for mine though !!!

Thanks again for providing pictures, I guess we should see the flood gates open real soon. Keep 'em coming guys.....

[gravel express]

Yep, give it a couple of weeks and there wil be some great examples out there.

[bee444]

mate it looks fantastic, I cant wait to hear how it rides with the lowered springs, thats the first thing on my list. is the spoiler on the back window standard or is it the dust deflector in the acc list??

[gravel express]

As far as i'm aware the spoiler on the back is standard. I took a photo of the tyre placard so any one who is thinking about changing the wheels should find the info useful. The placard relates to a VE SSV Sport Wagon, 2008.
http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q435/roscoe30023/Image039.jpg

[The Brock]

Saw a black VE Calais V 6 litre wagon in the showroom at Shacks in Fremantle last night; so there's finally one in Perth... looks awesome...

They also had a VE Senator in Voodoo with light urban and 20" pentagon wheels.... very nice....

City Motors advertised they had one in the showroom in Wed paper, but alas nothing there !!!

[Vulture]

The black SS-V wagon looks amazing on the GTS rims :drool: I wish the misses would let me get one of these but she likes something a bit smaller :doh:


im leavin the SSV rims on painted Shadow Chrome for now until the misses scratches them up.

I like your thinking, it is an inevitability isn't it!

[NewVLT]

How good do the 20" Supersports look on a Karma wagon ?!!

Taken from the new wagon accessories brochure I picked up from the dealer today...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b140/NewVLT/Sheet1a.jpg

[Butscut]

How good do the 20" Supersports look on a Karma wagon ?!!

Taken from the new wagon accessories brochure I picked up from the dealer today...

Now I can't stop salivating !!!! How sweet should the Calais Karma wagons look with the 20's and the extra chrome highlights.......Cant wait to see the pics, or god forbid, one in the flesh !!!

[Evman]

I never thought I'd be wanting a wagon so much...

[NickS]

Holy crap ... the GTS rims look sensational, I can't wait to get mine now !!!

:bawl:

Well done champ, the next month is going to go real slow for me ... lucky I have a GTS and a 400awkW Coupe 4 to tide me over.

:D

[Evman]

...the next month is going to go real slow for me ... lucky I have a GTS and a 400awkW Coupe 4 to tide me over.

:D


God damn I hate you...

:jester:

[iloveholden]

Holy crap ... the GTS rims look sensational, I can't wait to get mine now !!!

:bawl:

Well done champ, the next month is going to go real slow for me ... lucky I have a GTS and a 400awkW Coupe 4 to tide me over.

:D

Is the SS gone?

The black wagon with GTS rims looks hot to say the least but i reckon it would look even nicer with the crome highlights.

[V8SSVWAGON]

shes been lowered a bit for the brochure,,,,,shame they dont come out like that from the factory....looks sweet.

[pierre]

Can anybody help?! I am trying to take delivery of an SSV sportwagon which was supposed to have 20" s/sport wheels fitted which I have paid for and the dealer has just advised me that there are no 20" wheels approved which could not possibly void the warranty because of weight! I find this difficult to believe...is it true? ...are there no 20" wheels available for the SSV?

thanks

[bee444]

there was a problem due to weight but my dealer has now told me that it has been fixed??? (i also have an ssv with 20" on the way)

[GETUTED]

I saw a white wagon at Claridge Holden (ADL) getting all the transport tape taken off of it yesterday. The must only be a week or two away.....

[EddieVE06]

Saw a black SS wagon at Ralph D'Silva in Preston this morning sitting in prime position in their window....Damn it looked great.

[CSP]

Can't wait for the HSV Senator Estate!!! :D

[Highway]

Just came back from a drive of a new black wagon and I must say its a big improvement over my VY.

I don't normally drive a manual but it is easy to just drive no problems.

What I noticed was an improvement is-

- Drives just like to sedan (as they have said )
- No booming sound from the rear
- FE2 suspension is just firm enough
- Exhaust doesn't sound to bad once you get the revs up ( Very quiet at idle )
- The A pillar size did not seem any problem
- Since they have raised the rear floor there is extra room in the wheel well

Lowered with 20's it will look magic

Its for sale they tell me

Can't wait till mine arrives

Mike

[Butscut]

Can anybody help?! I am trying to take delivery of an SSV sportwagon which was supposed to have 20" s/sport wheels fitted which I have paid for and the dealer has just advised me that there are no 20" wheels approved which could not possibly void the warranty because of weight! I find this difficult to believe...is it true? ...are there no 20" wheels available for the SSV?

thanks

My dealer advised me today that he has followed the 20" rim issue up with Holden and they have confirmed that 20" Supersports WILL be factory fitted to my Calais wagon on 19 August.....Yep they have finally given me a manufacture date. All things going well delivery will be the first week of Sept...:woohoo:

[NewVLT]

My dealer advised me today that he has followed the 20" rim issue up with Holden and they have confirmed that 20" Supersports WILL be factory fitted to my Calais wagon on 19 August.....Yep they have finally given me a manufacture date. All things going well delivery will be the first week of Sept...:woohoo:

Thanks Butscut. Did they say they'd resolved the wheel issues or they were just going to risk it and see ?

They've adjusted the build date to 24 July for mine so we should see it the week after next....fingers crossed.

[blackbettyhsv]

was talking to a salesman at the pub last night from colin watson here in traralgon, said they have a black SS wagon they will put out in front of there yard to show it off, might have to go & take a look & a piccy:nyuk:

got some photo's today of this black vess wagon at cwh, customer picks it up monday, another 6 arrive monday. they have one coming in voodoo to keep for show as all the customers want there wagons as soon as they turn up.http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/blackbettyhsv/vewagon002.jpghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/blackbettyhsv/vewagon003.jpghttp://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/blackbettyhsv/vewagon001.jpg

[Canters]

Penfolds in Burwood (Melbourne) have a black Calais V Wagon (with the Urban interior) on display in the outside yard.

Looks great, but I am a little surprised about how small the boot space is......

[Butscut]

Thanks Butscut. Did they say they'd resolved the wheel issues or they were just going to risk it and see ?

No, he confirmed that Holden had fixed the wheel issue and that 20's would still be factory fitted on my Calais. Lets face it, 17's look way to small in those arches and as such I wouldn't be suprised if they are getting heaps of comments on this issue. If you look at the Holden website regularly like me, (I know very sad) but they amended all the accessory lists for wagons a few days ago, and listed all the wheels that they will factory fit and adjusted the price to the same as the sedan (they were previously $500 more !!)


They've adjusted the build date to 24 July for mine so we should see it the week after next....fingers crossed.

What was the original build date ?

[NewVLT]

No, he confirmed that Holden had fixed the wheel issue and that 20's would still be factory fitted on my Calais. Lets face it, 17's look way to small in those arches and as such I wouldn't be suprised if they are getting heaps of comments on this issue. If you look at the Holden website regularly like me, (I know very sad) but they amended all the accessory lists for wagons a few days ago, and listed all the wheels that they will factory fit and adjusted the price to the same as the sedan (they were previously $500 more !!)

Cool. I'll check it out. News hadn't filtered through to my dealer as of today. I've asked him to check on Monday for me.


What was the original build date ?

Originally they said July 7th, with a delivery date of the 31st ?! :confused:
I'm only across town from the factory so that July 7th date always sounded a bit rubbery.

My birthday is the 28th so here hoping for a very, very good one.

[V8SSVWAGON]

went and checked out the Phantom Calais V at Shacks in freo today, very nice with the black interior, boot space was tiny, gonna struggle fitting my dogs in there.

[Mick_540]

I have been waiting for the release of the Sportswagon since the VE first came out. I currently have a VY Berlina International LS1. So today I go down to Cranbourne HOlden and can pretty much verify that the rear cargo area will NOT fit my twin-pram.

I can also verify that the pram fits WITH GREAT DIFFICULTY into the boot of any VE Sedan.

I can also verify tha the pram fits QUITE EASILY into the boot of the G series XR6 Turbo.

[CSP]

I have been waiting for the release of the Sportswagon since the VE first came out. I currently have a VY Berlina International LS1. So today I go down to Cranbourne HOlden and can pretty much verify that the rear cargo area will NOT fit my twin-pram.

I can also verify that the pram fits WITH GREAT DIFFICULTY into the boot of any VE Sedan.

I can also verify tha the pram fits QUITE EASILY into the boot of the G series XR6 Turbo.

I can verify that the car is far more important than the pram! Kids can walk soon enough!

[ti0350]

I have been waiting for the release of the Sportswagon since the VE first came out. I currently have a VY Berlina International LS1. So today I go down to Cranbourne HOlden and can pretty much verify that the rear cargo area will NOT fit my twin-pram.

I can also verify that the pram fits WITH GREAT DIFFICULTY into the boot of any VE Sedan.

I can also verify tha the pram fits QUITE EASILY into the boot of the G series XR6 Turbo.

Wow that pram must be huge we use to get our double pram in the boot of our old VS without a problem, I would have thought a VE would be easier isnt the boot bigger then a VS I know my VY's boot is..

[theVman]

A VE Sportwagon past me last night on the F3 back to Newcastle - looked to be Berlina spec. Looked very nice on the road and quite compact for what it is. Finally we are seeing them on the road.

I think the compact nature of the new wagon will open up a new market as a lot of consumers previsouly thought the VT-VZ wagon was too big, bulky and difficult to drive and park. I also thought this when I first droves works VX but it was easy to adapt to once I got my VT. Boot space may be a factor long term but I think more sedan like proportions will sawy some buyers over.

[iloveholden]

The boot space is less than usual but if you can fit a pram in the boot of VE (which i think is bigger than the Fords) sedan that what kinda pram is it?:confused:

I reckon the lack of boot space wont deter people that much, they look to good i reckon.

[barneyridge]

For those with nothing to do tomorrow, it looks like Holden must be doing a press or more likely a dealer day at Homebush Bay. I live near by and driving through today I notice every spec sportswagon in a car park (car park next to the Mountain bike/BMX track). I watched Toyota use the same area to show the dealers the Aurion before it was released.

In addition to the sportswagon’s, they had the Colorado and updated epica.

They have a course set up with witches hats. When I watched the Toyota show, the drivers showed off esp, brakes, handling etc. Pretty good show. As I was on my mountain bike, they didn’t seem to care me watching the show.

I would say the sportswagon will be on show for the next couple of days for those interested or in the area.

[VH-COM]

Irelands in Cairns have a lone (as far as I can tell) Phantom SS Sportwagon on display if anyone hasn't seen one in Cairns yet. Drooled all over it at the Cairns Regional Show on Friday - 70,000 people watched it and other cars & machinery parade around the arena. I heard several positive comments from within the crowd. One person asked "is that an Audi or Merc. wagon" ?

[iloveholden]

For those with nothing to do tomorrow, it looks like Holden must be doing a press or more likely a dealer day at Homebush Bay. I live near by and driving through today I notice every spec sportswagon in a car park (car park next to the Mountain bike/BMX track). I watched Toyota use the same area to show the dealers the Aurion before it was released.

In addition to the sportswagon’s, they had the Colorado and updated epica.

They have a course set up with witches hats. When I watched the Toyota show, the drivers showed off esp, brakes, handling etc. Pretty good show. As I was on my mountain bike, they didn’t seem to care me watching the show.

I would say the sportswagon will be on show for the next couple of days for those interested or in the area.

That sounds like a cool thing to go to :)

[aware]

Went to Barry Smith Holden today and they had an SS-V Wagon on display. I really like it and am looking at ordering a Calais/Calais-V Wagon. It was really nice.:)

[bee444]

can anyone tell me if the SSV comes with satin chrome interior door handles/levers, the dealer told me that they did when i ordered but i noticed they are listed as an option on the holden web site??

[aware]

can anyone tell me if the SSV comes with satin chrome interior door handles/levers, the dealer told me that they did when i ordered but i noticed they are listed as an option on the holden web site??
Didn't pay attention, but from memory I think it did have satin chrome.

[Swordie]

I wonder if there will be Police Interceptor SS wagons?

[Excellent]

I'm not a wagon person. I saw the ad today and I think Holden captured the right angles of the car. I must admit, it even looked sexy. Good marketing with the message I thought. It's not aimed at the sheepish 4WD buyers, that's for sure.

[NewVLT]

No, he confirmed that Holden had fixed the wheel issue and that 20's would still be factory fitted on my Calais. Lets face it, 17's look way to small in those arches and as such I wouldn't be suprised if they are getting heaps of comments on this issue. If you look at the Holden website regularly like me, (I know very sad) but they amended all the accessory lists for wagons a few days ago, and listed all the wheels that they will factory fit and adjusted the price to the same as the sedan (they were previously $500 more !!)

Butscut, have you got a Calais or Calais V coming ?
Reason being I just checked the Holden site again and they still don't list any wheels as accessories for SS-V or Calais V wagons, just for the regular SS and Calais.

[Mick_540]

The boot space is less than usual but if you can fit a pram in the boot of VE (which i think is bigger than the Fords) sedan that what kinda pram is it?:confused:

I reckon the lack of boot space wont deter people that much, they look to good i reckon.

It is a twin pram .....

[CSP]

It is a twin pram .....

Mate of mine and his wife have twins, and a twin pram. They fit theirs into the boot of their E-Series GTS easily.

[Leilani7]

I'm not a wagon person. I saw the ad today and I think Holden captured the right angles of the car. I must admit, it even looked sexy. Good marketing with the message I thought. It's not aimed at the sheepish 4WD buyers, that's for sure.


I agree , it is a good ad, dont know if it has been said before and I dont have time to look through the 80 or so pages here but it reminds me of the 300c wagon a bit ???

Looks good though !!!

[Big_Valven]

Saw a silver SS wagon parked on Currie Street on Friday. Very good looking machine in the flesh but almost a bit strange from the front because I'm used to the VE sedan front, but with the wagon back :)

[pierre]

More info on 20" supersport wheels on SSV wagon.....I take delivery of one of these in the next couple of days and ordered it with the 20" supersports back in March. The definitive word from Holden today after much back and forth with the dealer/Holden etc is that the 20" supersports are not warrantied to be fitted on the SSV sportwagon. They are testing a new 19" sport wheel but the results may not be in for months. No 20" wheels are in the pipeline for this vehicle to my knowledge. So I have been told by Holden that the only wheels that do not void the warranty etc. are the standard 19" it ships with. In addition the dealer will not fit the 20" supersports as this breaches "their duty of care".....so there you have it! the SSV sportwagon can only have the stadard wheels if it is to retain a normal warranty....I cant believe it....should have bought an SS!

[KeenGolfer]

No 20" wheels are in the pipeline for this vehicle to my knowledge. So I have been told by Holden that the only wheels that do not void the warranty etc. are the standard 19" it ships with.

What would the "void the warranty" be? At most a suspension component or two.

[FatBoy]

Legally an inch increase in rim diameter should be no problem - i suspect it'd be the tyre load rating that's an issue right ?

Be careful with insurance then guys if you go the 20's, the weasels who work for insurance companies will find any possible out to deny a claim...

On the other hand, i'd like to see Holden stand up in court and prove that their own factory 20's somehow caused an engine or gearbox failure... :)

[Butscut]

Butscut, have you got a Calais or Calais V coming ?
Reason being I just checked the Holden site again and they still don't list any wheels as accessories for SS-V or Calais V wagons, just for the regular SS and Calais.

NewVLT, sorry should have been clearer, I opted for the Calais (i.e not the V series) as I just couldn't justify the $8k extra for what is effectively, a bit of chrome trim ($200 dealer fit accessory) leather upholstry and DVD player.

Looks like this may have been an even better choice than first thought. Without rubbing salt into the wounds, Ill post a picture or two when it arrives in the first week of Sept.

[GMH-TWR]

Anyone got a link to the new VE Sportwagon commercial ?

Just saw about 5seconds of it on CH7

[pierre]

Just saw the ad a few minutes ago too. I swear it is an SSV with 20" supersports wheels that you cannot use!

[mac06]

For those that are interested the Sportwagon accessory brochure says that none of the HSVi Alloys, 18's 19's or 20's are available as an option for the Omega, SS-V and Calais-V. They are available on all other Sportwagon models though.

[hyper 8]

My old man ordered a ssv wagon today with 20"s. So we will have to wait and see if it comes with them on it.

[NewVLT]

Saw a silver SS wagon parked on Currie Street on Friday. Very good looking machine in the flesh but almost a bit strange from the front because I'm used to the VE sedan front, but with the wagon back :)

Holden seem to be planting that car all over Adelaide.
Silver SS plated VESS-04 was parked opposite a very busy service station on Cross Road this afternoon. Where will it appear next ? :)

[zorro]

saw one at holden state office today (brisbane, cannon hill). looked cool, in flesh the roofline doesnt look too bad and is bigger in person than pics let you to believe.

should be a hit, I hope to get a drive of one when they hit the showrooms

[VESSV316]

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb19/VUSSUTE316/22072008.jpg

[iloveholden]

Looks nice ^^^^^

I saw the wagon commerical for the first time last night, i like it alot came accross as a good commerical for a nice car.

[bee444]

Rang the dealer again yesterday he has now done a backflip on the 20" wheels as well, He recieved an email from HSVi saying no 20" for calais v and ssv :bawl: I have been looking at afew aftermarket sets. anyone know the offset of the HSV 20", Been looking at a couple of sets that are staggerd fittment just concerned about clearance in the rear wheel wells??

Gravel Express have you stopped driving long enough to take some more pics, is there any issues with your wheels( scrubbing etc ) how are the springs going cant wait for an update..

[theVman]

Just saw the ad a few minutes ago too. I swear it is an SSV with 20" supersports wheels that you cannot use!

I was going to say the same. The black one reversing into a car spot or something looks to have the 20" Supersports - maybe they are the 19" versions... lol. Shame about the 20" problem!!

[ssvMark]

The new girl is here, Vodoo SSV Sportwagon A6. Pick it up tommorow, will post pics asap!! Saw it today can't wait.

[theVman]

Another thought . . . If you can option an SSV ute with the 20" Supersports I can't see why the wagon would be any different. While the wagon probably does weigh a bit more the ute would surely be able to carry a lot more load?? I would have thought they would be pretty much the same as in the past...

Food for thought...

[old holden V8]

Another thought . . . If you can option an SSV ute with the 20" Supersports I can't see why the wagon would be any different. While the wagon probably does weigh a bit more the ute would surely be able to carry a lot more load?? I would have thought they would be pretty much the same as in the past...

Food for thought...

Isn't it load over the axle?
And hasn't the Wagon - sorry Sportwagon - have an extra 91 kg's over the rear axle?

:)

[iloveholden]

I saw the wagon commerical again and i swear i saw a wagon reversing into a bay with the 20s on that you arnt allowed?

[NewVLT]

Another thought . . . If you can option an SSV ute with the 20" Supersports I can't see why the wagon would be any different. While the wagon probably does weigh a bit more the ute would surely be able to carry a lot more load?? I would have thought they would be pretty much the same as in the past...

I don't know what they've based their warrantable weight limits on but going on the published weights for the Calais V V8 sedan + 91kg's+ for the same in a wagon you're looking at 1916kg+ for the empty car.

The ute you'd have to figure would be lighter (can't find published weights anywhere for it) with possibly a similar "potential" carrying capacity as the wagon, hence the outlawing of all their accessory wheels. Oh, and the luggage pod for the roof racks for the wagon isn't an option either so weight must really be presenting a problem.

Initially I thought it might be a load limit issue with the tyres, ie perhaps there was nothing in the Bridgestone range (I doubt they'd go brand shopping for us to find one that was suitable), but they've banned all their 18", 19" and 20" wheels from their accessory range while still fitting other 18's and 19's as standard to the Calais V and SS-V.

Obviously their accessory wheels aren't built or tested to the same standards as their production (larger volume) rims.

As a soon to be new owner of Holdens most expensive short wheelbase car ever, and as Holden are looking to pinch customers from BMW, Audi, VW etc with the new wagon, this really isn't good enough and they will be getting a letter. Don't even get me started on the side window chrome ! :vpo:

[Highway]

With the 20's fitted to the Calais V at the Motor Show has anyone seen these wheels anywhere else or are they specially made for the occasion.

The closest I have seen to these are probably the 19" R8 HSV version.

Anyone else know of any others similiar ?

Mike

[BadMac]

A NZ review of the Wagon.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4622756a27880.html

[RABSP]

Well mine has arrived at the dealer.

Now the fun will start, they sold it to me with a Sunroof, I hope the Hollandia will go in OK. Should be better than the factory because I will not loose the sunglass holder and it has a rain sensor.

I ordered Heron on a Calais-V V8, not sure about the chrome around the window on the white, it might look good as is, with the dark tint.

But just in case, does anyone know where we can get the trim chromed in Melbourne SE?

[NickS]

Well mine has arrived at the dealer.

Now the fun will start, they sold it to me with a Sunroof, I hope the Hollandia will go in OK. Should be better than the factory because I will not loose the sunglass holder and it has a rain sensor.

The wagons have no option for a factory sunroof ... my dealer mentioned they might be able to do after market but I figure they aren't a factory item for a reason ...

:confused:

Anyone know why they aren't offered from the factory ?

[RABSP]

When I was going through the order process the dealer rang a friend at Holden to get the inside on the reason.

He was told that they did not want to spend the estimated investment of $1,000,000 at the moment to get it tested and approved by the engineering folks, given the expected return and the aditional time delay.

It would be reconsidered in the future!

On my VT I had to get an after market ( HBD ), as they did not do them on the production line as they do now.

Time will tell.

[11SLI]

as i was dropping my ute of to AutoTrans here in Brisbane heading for Perth, i saw a white Wagon and Silver VE Wagon... Dont think they were calais etc..
BUt just the standard factory wagons and they look awesome :)

[ash3]

In regards to the Sunroof, I won't be getting one until Holden start putting in as a tick box option (obviously I'll have to go aftermarket but I'd rather wait until they do before I put one in, just in case there is a bigger reason behind them not doing it)

My mates got a XR5 focus and the other half has a Mazda 3 SP23 and both these cars do not come with a sunroof option due to chassis design (Obviously as they are the same chassy) This could be the case for the sports wagon as well. Who knows

I've seen a few on the road now, hurry up the 12th of August!!!!!!

[RABSP]

Thats why i said the fun will start, because i ordered the car from a different dealer to the one that did all the research for me with Holden.

If there is an issue, then the sunroof place will not fit it.

[benny79s]

well guys i just took delivery of my ve my09 black ssv manual sports wagon...........and im impressed any one thinking of purchusing one of these will be very happy ,the manual gear clunk and minimal a very smooth ride got 22 inch rims on order :):):):)

[bee444]

be sure to take plenty of pics for us, i still have 2-3 weeks to wait. Not happy with my dealer, picked up a loaner on monday,they gave me an xr6 not impressed:spew:

[V8SSVWAGON]

the manual gear clunk and minimal a very smooth ride got 22 inch rims on order

Wat do you mean manual gear clunk ?

Still waiting for my black 6M SSV which I ordered in March. ( Perth )

[iloveholden]

Good to hear the wagons are filtering through now. Still havnt seen any on the road yet though

[The Brock]

Youngs Holden in Vic Park WA have a black Calais V wagon in the showroom and a red SV6 wagon out the front of the yard.

Notice there is an error on the website; and in the brochure; the interior shot of the SV6 wagon shows a manual transmission !!! Apparently no manual SV6 wagon available though !!

[NewVLT]

Just got a nice little phone call from the dealer.
"Do you want to see your wagon before we put the 20's on it on Monday ?"

I should take delivery early next week....and I'm in love already !

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b140/NewVLT/DSCN0269a.jpg

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well guys i just took delivery of my ve my09 black ssv manual sports wagon...........and im impressed any one thinking of purchusing one of these will be very happy ,the manual gear clunk and minimal a very smooth ride got 22 inch rims on order :):):):)

Good job Benny. It's going to be like a bunch of Christmas Eve's in a row for me over the next few nights.

[Highway]

Looks great can't wait till my one turns up.

Did you get the LSD/FE2 with yours ?

Just wondering if thats the normal height or with FE2.

I reckon it looks better without the big antenna at the rear.

Have to get a stubby one I think.

Mike

[VZSS_Freak]

Very Nice Indeed!!

[NewVLT]

I ordered it with FE2 and it still looks rather high.
I wonder how much higher they'd be with the standard suspension ?

[Highway]

I ordered it with FE2 and it still looks rather high.
I wonder how much higher they'd be with the standard suspension ?

Mine is coming with FE2 .

You are going to get lots of looks on the road next week.

Have a great week.

[benny79s]

Wat do you mean manual gear clunk ?

Still waiting for my black 6M SSV which I ordered in March. ( Perth )

ive driven older 8s before bit clunky in the box between gears these are smooth as ........ i wouldnt be happy waiting that long for a car ,saw mine sunday had it by tuesday it was one of there 2 allocated cars mine and a blue sv6 ....just lucky i think will upload some photos when it stops raining ......hopfully your ride show soon.....

[murph_fan51]

Silly question, but is FE2 suspension still an option these days???

[NewVLT]

Mine is coming with FE2 .

You are going to get lots of looks on the road next week.

Have a great week.

I think you can bet I will have a great week. I still haven't seen a wagon on the road as yet so I guess someone has to fly the flag. It's going to be a tough job I know. :)

At least the 20's should make it look superficially lower, even if the rolling diameter is the same, with more shiny metal filling the wheel arch than black tyre sidewall.


Silly question, but is FE2 suspension still an option these days???

Standard on SS and SV6 but optionable on everything else. Calais was downgraded pretty early on to FE1.5.

[VH-COM]

Great car and pics NewVLT :goodjob:
They have come a long way since the VL
I noticed tail lamps look more "fitting" when seen in the flesh.
I think these will sell very well
1200-1500 per month is my uneducated guess .

[V8SSVWAGON]

Hey NEWVLT....whats the little grey bit on the tailgate ? sumthing to do with new delivery ?

Nice Ride....twill look smoothe with twennies and lowered.
I personally dont like that colour, but Im still yet to see it on a wagon in the flesh.

Dealer says mine is nearly complete, so another two rotations FIFO and its on.

[NewVLT]

Great car and pics NewVLT :goodjob:
They have come a long way since the VL
I noticed tail lamps look more "fitting" when seen in the flesh.
I think these will sell very well
1200-1500 per month is my uneducated guess .

Thanks VH. You're right about the tail lights. I was a little worried as they always looked a bit cloudy in the pics with that clear looking cover on them (as per the horrible lights on the 380), but they don't look too bad in the flesh.
Holden seem to be budgeting on about 1000 per month and I think they'll make that no problems once people start seeing them on the road.

[RABSP]

Are you thinking about getting the window trims chromed?

[The-V8-Power]

Very nice NewVLT :)
I like a lot, Karma does make it look good.

That Holden Badge on the front does look a bit out of proportion though since it is almost sitting under the chrome trim.

[NewVLT]

Hey NEWVLT....whats the little grey bit on the tailgate ? sumthing to do with new delivery ?

Nice Ride....twill look smoothe with twennies and lowered.
I personally dont like that colour, but Im still yet to see it on a wagon in the flesh.

Dealer says mine is nearly complete, so another two rotations FIFO and its on.

The wait is the worst I know. Good luck with yours. Mine was only rolled out the factory yesterday afternoon (my little insider mate has been following my VIN number down the line) so Holden are pretty quick at moving them on to dealers.

As they're delivered to the dealer they have little protective tabs and completion/passed stickers stuck all over them. You'll usually see small foam blocks on the outside of the doors as well so they can't be knocked along the production line. The tailgate strip must be something like that. Pre-delivery cleans up all that and they add other bits like screwing in antenna's and the like that may be damaged when they're on the trucks.


Are you thinking about getting the window trims chromed?

I've had a quick look at them and I reckon they're all metal. I'm hoping the rear door chrome on the wagon is the same size as the sedan and that the roof strip is the same as the sedan or Statesman/Caprice. That way I'll just buy those and then get the little rear window ones polished up if they're stainless like the rest.

There'll be a bit of measuring going once I pick her up. She looks a bit naked without the chrome. :)


Very nice NewVLT :)
I like a lot, Karma does make it look good.

That Holden Badge on the front does look a bit out of proportion though since it is almost sitting under the chrome trim.

Thanks. It does, but it's growing on me.
One thing I did notice today as it was parked next to an Omega and a Berlina was the long vertical plastic mesh along the lower front bumper. It's just open on the other two and the Calais looks a little more finished there.

[Highway]

Hey NewVLT do you know at what stage you get a VIN number allocated to your car.

Is it once they start building ?

[CSP]

I should take delivery early next week....and I'm in love already !

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b140/NewVLT/DSCN0271a.jpg


They gonna fix the right hand mufler befor you pick it up? It's way out!

[Butscut]

NewVLT,

That is one Sweet ride buddy. Looks like you beat me by a whole month, but at least now I get to set what Ive bought. Would love to see the 20's on your ride. What did Holden say when you told them you want 20's on a "blacklisted" model ? did you sign a waiver ?

Regarding the chroming around the window (and I don't mean sticking a paper bag full of glue to your face) I would love to know how you go about doing this as it is one thing that I would definately like to get done to mine...

All in all you one lucky guy with a cool ride. Karma was definately the way to go.

Enjoy your "christmas day" :xmas:

[gravel express]

Rang the dealer again yesterday he has now done a backflip on the 20" wheels as well, He recieved an email from HSVi saying no 20" for calais v and ssv :bawl: I have been looking at afew aftermarket sets. anyone know the offset of the HSV 20", Been looking at a couple of sets that are staggerd fittment just concerned about clearance in the rear wheel wells??

Gravel Express have you stopped driving long enough to take some more pics, is there any issues with your wheels( scrubbing etc ) how are the springs going cant wait for an update..

Hi Bee444, been driving it for a week now and are having a ball, will clean it up this weekend and post some good pics, as for the super low king springs there is no scrubbing at all and the Genuine GTS wheels fit under the guards great. Had the windows tinted on Sunday and that makes it look so much better. One small problem so far, the rear park assist chooses when it wants to operate when you put it into reverse. Better get the list going for the dealer for when it goes in for its first service. As far as the ride goes it is quite firm but not rough, it is heavy on the steering but it tracks great and you are not fighting the wheel to keep it in a straight line. The Mrs has no complaints about driving it so it must be ok. Can't believe she let me take it out last night!!:bow:

[NewVLT]

Hey NewVLT do you know at what stage you get a VIN number allocated to your car.

Is it once they start building ?

Mine was allocated about a week before they built it, but that may stretch out as the wagon orders build. The dealer can log on to the Holden system and see it. Once it pops up there it shouldn't be too long.


They gonna fix the right hand mufler befor you pick it up? It's way out!

Bugger ! I hadn't noticed that. Thanks for pointing it out. Email going off now.


NewVLT,

That is one Sweet ride buddy. Looks like you beat me by a whole month, but at least now I get to set what Ive bought. Would love to see the 20's on your ride. What did Holden say when you told them you want 20's on a "blacklisted" model ? did you sign a waiver ?

Regarding the chroming around the window (and I don't mean sticking a paper bag full of glue to your face) I would love to know how you go about doing this as it is one thing that I would definately like to get done to mine...

All in all you one lucky guy with a cool ride. Karma was definately the way to go.

Enjoy your "christmas day" :xmas:

Thanks Butscut. Sorry about your wait.
My birthday is on Monday so it's going to be birthday and Christmas rolled into one. I'll post some pics up with the 20's on it when delivered.

They're picking up the wheels from HSVi on Monday and I'll still have to sign the waiver but I'll get a 20" wheel placard from spare parts to make it look legit. I can't see it being any worse than fitting any aftermarket wheel from Joe Blogs Tyres, which Holden also wouldn't warrant. I don't see insurance being a problem, just means I can't sue Holden if anything goes wrong. I'd imagine they'd have to test them with something like an extreme 700kg load AND a full towing load to 100% warrant them and I won't be loading it to anything ever near that and haven't fitted a towbar (which look terrible by the way).

I'm also getting a sump guard fitted from the country pack. I decided against the extra large tailgate shade as it looks to be screwed in and I didn't want holes drilled in a brand new car. Pics are in the new large VE sedan/wagon accessories folder the parts people have (not the brochure).

I'll keep you posted on the chrome strips.

Oh, and Karma still looks better in the flesh than in those photo's. :)

[mac06]

How about a nice Voodoo SS-V with 20's, superlow shockies and dark tint??? Please excuse my camera work.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa35/mac06_07/VoodooSS-VSportwagon001.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa35/mac06_07/VoodooSS-VSportwagon002.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa35/mac06_07/VoodooSS-VSportwagon003.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa35/mac06_07/VoodooSS-VSportwagon004.jpg

[Highway]

Looks the goods mac06.

What sort of shocks are they ?

No low springs !!

Mike

[RABSP]

Wow, that looks great, i hope mine looks as good.

Was the tint the darkest legal, or somthing else.

[NewVLT]

Very nice. I love the 20's ! They're a must have I think.

[mac06]

Looks the goods mac06.

What sort of shocks are they ?

No low springs !!

Mike

Sorry my bad, I meant superlow SPRINGS not shockies. :doh: The shockies are standard and the springs are Kings. There aren't many options out there at the moment for the Sportwagon, but no doubt there will be soon.

[Highway]

Sorry my bad, I meant superlow SPRINGS not shockies. :doh: The shockies are standard and the springs are Kings. There aren't many options out there at the moment for the Sportwagon, but no doubt there will be soon.

Standard shocks work OK with Superlow ?

Not to bumpy.

Yours came with FE2 ?

How much did it drop.

All these questions !!

[theVman]

Wow - looks good. They definately need the larger rims dont they. In 12 months time I know I'm going to be in one of these once they start hitting the market second hand. Almost have the missus convinced she needs a new car!!

[mac06]

Standard shocks work OK with Superlow ?

Not to bumpy.

Yours came with FE2 ?

How much did it drop.

All these questions !!

Standard shockies are okay with the superlows. Any lower and you'd have to get coilovers and change the shockies, but that costs considerably more. This is just a cheaper option. The SS-V does come with FE2, but lowered more looks a lot better IMO. I'll get back to you on how much it dropped.

[iloveholden]

All the wagons posted so far look so damn nice, the voodoo one looks very very nice lowered on 20s.

The calais in karma looks great as well but 20" wheels will bust up its look.

[bee444]

mac06 that is one tuff looking wagon, Is that holden tint??? i have got holden doing mine when it turns up but am thinking of getting it done elsewhere???
A question for people in the know how will the supersports affect insurance I have dropped the 20" option as I cant afford an insurance company to knock back a claim if it happens. Can they refuse to pay over the wheels?????

[Highway]

mac06 that is one tuff looking wagon, Is that holden tint??? i have got holden doing mine when it turns up but am thinking of getting it done elsewhere???
A question for people in the know how will the supersports affect insurance I have dropped the 20" option as I cant afford an insurance company to knock back a claim if it happens. Can they refuse to pay over the wheels?????

Check with the insurance company

Depends who you are with

Some not a problem and others will charge slightly more premium

Others will reject the idea straight out.

Get it noted on the policy if they agree.

Best of luck

Mike

[NewVLT]

Just checked with Shannons Adelaide where my other two VL's are insured and they don't have a problem with it.

So long as they're no more than 2" larger in diameter than the tyre placard then they're happy. Calais V being 18" as standard is fine.

[mac06]

The superlow springs lowered the vehicle by around 25mm. The tint was done specially.;)

[bee444]

I thought that the 20" dia should be fine my big concern is that they are under rated as far as load? A couple of tyre places I have been talking to about aftermarket wheels have indicated that the wheels must meet the load rating of the original wheels fitted if not the insurance company can refuse to pay up?
does anyone have an ssv or supersports wheel off the car and let me know what load rating they have as it would be interesing to see how much lower the supersports are than the SSV wheel

[ash3]

Love the pics guys, keep them them coming!

Very jealous! :bawl:

I drove past Booran Holden in Dandenong today and saw my exact car that I have on order (Phantom black SV6 Wagon). I just want it now!!!