New Camaro for Australia - Please !

[commodoreone]

:driving: I have just read an article in the SMH about the Detroit Motor show and assosicated announcements by GM. The article suggetsed that the new concept Camaro with a 6 ltr Gen 4 may be released here in Australia through GMH.
The statement made in the SMH also suggested a price tag of approx $60K.

I realise there are many "bidges to cross" before this could become a reality, however this is one person (amongst many thousands I suspect) that would definitely purchase one.

Please bring the car to OZ next year - also I'd love to see a version in 7ltr if possible ....

I am a loyal GM man (10 GM cars over the past 20 years, including the current Monaro), but I may have to convert to European sports cars soon if I can't get into another muscle car within the next 1-2 years.

Is Holden really considering bringing the new Camaro here next year ?????

[craigus]

I hope they do bring it here. i'm sure it'd be a great model to add to the HSV line up!!!!

[Souljah]

Probably become the new Monaro.

[Jac001]

Probably become the new Monaro.

I feel the australian public will look poorly on an american biult "monaro". Best to send it over as a camaro.

Holden Camaro...hmm will take a little to get used to it i suppose...

[Mr Moosh]

I feel the australian public will look poorly on an american biult "monaro". Best to send it over as a camaro.

Holden Camaro...hmm will take a little to get used to it i suppose...

Mooney said that if it does end up here (and you can bet it will, along with the next gen corvette), it will be badged not as a Holden Monaro, nor as a Holden Camaro, but definately as a chevy. :driving:

[XtRmn8]

Holden Camaro sounds too similar to Holden Camira. :lol:

[Carby650]

I gotta say that I love the look of the "new" Camaro.
And if they where to release it in Aust. Provided it seated five people I would be handing my $$$$ over.
One of the best looking cars I have ever seen from the GM stable :driving:

[Jac001]

Mooney said that if it does end up here (and you can bet it will, along with the next gen corvette), it will be badged not as a Holden Monaro, nor as a Holden Camaro, but definately as a chevy. :driving:

holden corvette?

[Mr Moosh]

holden corvette?

Nah chevy too... like how Hummer is coming to Aus badged as a Hummer H3 not a Holden H3. Mooney wants the Corvette, Camaro, H3 and Cadillacs all to be sold under a dealership network within Holden, similar to how HSV showrooms are within Holden ones, all badged as there true brands. I could find you a link, but to put it simply I cant be stuffed! ;)

[HSV,_I_GOT_ONE]

Oh god I think I need to change my pants. This better not be a tease, especially the price. I will happily trade my clubby in for a camaro! I dont think I would quite be able to afford a corvette but the camaro will be one sweet kit.

[GEN III]

http://www.technochitlins.com/archives/230885378xzLwLf_ph.jpg

If this was the comaro instead of the one thats going to be in production now, I would buy it in a heart beat. The new one looks to sharp and angular.

Is the one I have pictured an early concept? Or a custom job? The better looking version IMO.

[gasguz]

http://www.technochitlins.com/archives/230885378xzLwLf_ph.jpg

If this was the comaro instead of the one thats going to be in production now, I would buy it in a heart beat. The new one looks to sharp and angular.

Is the one I have pictured an early concept? Or a custom job? The better looking version IMO.

That is 1 hot looking set of wheels. I was actually driving behind 1 of the test cars a few months ago. It was all badged as a Cadillac, I followed it for a little while but as soon as I got close enough the dude driving it noticed I had my camera out & peeled of in a flash. I only got a couple of lame shots from the rear. I would honestly take either 1 though. cheers

[mustanger]

If this does came to Aus,it won`t be until 2009 at the earliest.....John

[Mules]

The new Camro will be using the Zeta platform wont it? So will it be locally built if it does come to town?

[mustanger]

I don`t believe so. They are going to be testing here ,but are going to be built in North America.;)

[Swordie]

Chrysler’s version of the coupe the Charger / Challenger will be tempting. There are still GTO's in stock.

[Pickles]

I believe the Camaro will definitely come here--it will be built in RHD versions in the US--it will be sold here as a Chev Camaro--no way known will it be badged as a Monaro, don't know that we'll ever see a locally produced big coupe like the CV8 again, there's just not the market here for it. There are still lots of unsold "Coupes" in the US (GTOs), in the UK (Vauxhall Monaros), & of course there's still quite a few GTOs over here that are proving difficult to sell. So, I reckon the Camaro will have to be "it" for us, BUT, a RHD, next generation (I wouldn't mind a current generation either!) Corvette Z06 in factory built RHD would be very tempting, if holden were to sell such a beast.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Jac001]

. So, I reckon the Camaro will have to be "it" for us, BUT, a RHD, next generation (I wouldn't mind a current generation either!) Corvette Z06 in factory built RHD would be very tempting, if holden were to sell such a beast.
Cheers, Pickles.

As the corvette will be more expensive the the Camaro or previous holden monaro, wouldn't their be even a smaller market for it here in australia? Or would it appeal to a different market that wouldn't have bought a monaro?

Sounds like a lot of work and expense to biuld a few hundred to a couple of thousand corvettes in RHD just for australia.

[Red CV8 R]

I am not a huge fan of the Camaro but the Corvette :drool: I would love to see the king of the hill on sale in Aus.

[Mr Moosh]

Sounds like a lot of work and expense to biuld a few hundred to a couple of thousand corvettes in RHD just for australia.

Who said Australia is going to be the only RHD market to get them? :whip: ;)

[V-Car]

As the corvette will be more expensive the the Camaro or previous holden monaro, wouldn't their be even a smaller market for it here in australia? Or would it appeal to a different market that wouldn't have bought a monaro?

Sounds like a lot of work and expense to biuld a few hundred to a couple of thousand corvettes in RHD just for australia.

Different market...Corvette is a 2 seater sports car, Monaro was a sporty 2 door sedan.
And many other countries would be candidates for a RHD Corvette.
1. Anguilla
2. Antigua and Barbuda
3. Australia
4. Bahamas
5. Bangladesh
6. Barbados
7. Bermuda
8. Bhutan
9. Botswana
10. Brunei
11. Cayman Islands
12. Christmas Island (Australia)
13. Cook Islands
14. Cyprus
15. Dominica
16. East Timor
17. Falkland Islands
18. Fiji
19. Grenada
20. Guernsey (Channel Islands)
21. Guyana
22. Hong Kong
23. India
24. Indonesia
25. Ireland
26. Isle of Man
27. Jamaica
28. Japan
29. Jersey (Channel Islands)
30. Kenya
31. Kiribati
32. Cocos (Keeling) Islands (Australia)
33. Lesotho
34. Macau
35. Malawi
36. Malaysia
37. Maldives
38. Malta
39. Mauritius
40. Montserrat
41. Mozambique
42. Namibia
43. Nauru
44. Nepal
45. New Zealand
46. Niue
47. Norfolk Island (Australia)
48. Pakistan
49. Papua New Guinea
50. Pitcairn Islands (Britain)
51. Saint Helena
52. Saint Kitts and Nevis
53. Saint Lucia
54. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
55. Seychelles
56. Singapore
57. Solomon Islands
58. South Africa
59. Sri Lanka
60. Suriname
61. Swaziland
62. Tanzania
63. Thailand
64. Tokelau (New Zealand)
65. Tonga
66. Trinidad and Tobago
67. Turks and Caicos Islands
68. Tuvalu
69. Uganda
70. United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland)
71. Virgin Islands (British)
72. Virgin Islands (US)
73. Zambia
74. Zimbabwe

:D

[korrupt]

That is 1 hot looking set of wheels. I was actually driving behind 1 of the test cars a few months ago. It was all badged as a Cadillac, I followed it for a little while but as soon as I got close enough the dude driving it noticed I had my camera out & peeled of in a flash. I only got a couple of lame shots from the rear. I would honestly take either 1 though. cheers

Can you post the pics anyway?

[Mr Moosh]

Different market...Corvette is a 2 seater sports car, Monaro was a sporty 2 door sedan.
And many other countries would be candidates for a RHD Corvette.
1. Anguilla
2. Antigua and Barbuda
3. Australia
4. Bahamas....

:D

Haha! Man I hope that was a cut and paste job. ;)

[mickeyVX350]

Leave the yank tank there... does nothing for me... Retro is a sure fire way of giving a car the appeal of a PT Cruiser, and increase aging, and for christ's sake please don't EVER let us import a Monaro!

[VZSS250]

Camaro's no good...bring on the Corvette.

[Merlin]

I'd buy one!

[SS Enforcer]

Looks to me like we will import a 2 door GM based sports car with a ls series motor in it and we will export a 4 door ls powered car.

Makes perfect sense to me, why would GM with it's current financial troubles develop a comaro and a monaro again especially with our FTA with America.

cheers

[commodoreone]

:bday: I believe as some of you have already said, that if it does come to OZ it will be as a Chev, not a Holden - fine by me... Holden would obviously be selling it as part of their line up.

What do we need to do convince GM to bring the Camaro here - Lets lobby GMH, if all GM lovers get behind this, I think we could make an impact.

It will come down to pure economics, but I believe there is enough market here for GM to make a buck.

Lets lobby them................

[Dacious]

If you buy it, just beware it will be 90% looks and 10% function. It's got way too long a nose, and way too short a cabin and boot to even match a Monaro for accomodation. Back seat for midgets or someone you hate only, boot might hold an esky and your bathers if you're lucky. That will severely limit its' appeal.And unlike the Monaro, the Camaro was always the stripped budget car targetted in V6 at secretarys and in V8 at the bang-for-bucks. Don't espect leather, lots of trick stuff or of creature comforts.

If it costs a $, it'll cost $50,000 in Oz as a V8 for sure. That's a lot of dough for probably a basic Berlina level interior. Mooney and Simcoe have both already said it'll be sold as a Chev if it comes - which is still a big if. Japan and UK now allow LHD cars free regisration which killed the RHD C6 Corvette.

GM can't keep up with demand for the handbuilt LS7 motors (probbly why HSV can't get them for GTS). I don't think you're going to see a $US15K motor in a car designed to sell mostly V6s and targetted at <$US30K, as the rest of the car would have to be significantly upgraded to match. There's a lot of difference between a C6 and Z06 Corvette other than the motor.

There's only 4,200 GTOs left unsold in the US, Pickles, and they sold 900 in December (snow and ice - bad month for musclecar sales) so as the warmer months arrive they should go back to 1,000 a month which will see them sold out by May.

I tend to agree with no more coupes made in Oz. They are going to pump out sedan VEs and WMs, and product-swap. If we get a Monaro from the States it will probbly be a marginally changed GTO.

[JohnS]

If you buy it, just beware it will be 90&#37; looks and 10% function. It's got way too long a nose, and way too short a cabin and boot to even match a Monaro for accomodation. Back seat for midgets or someone you hate only, boot might hold an esky and your bathers if you're lucky. That will severely limit its' appeal.And unlike the Monaro, the Camaro was always the stripped budget car targetted in V6 at secretarys and in V8 at the bang-for-bucks. Don't espect leather, lots of trick stuff or of creature comforts.

If it was all about function we would all be driving Hiace vans... But i know what you mean.

If the Mustang has leather why wont the Camaro? Many baby boomers by cars like this and they have the cash for a few extras. This was not the cash in the '70s, '80s and '90s.

Once the 650hp blue devil corvette is released and the LS7 is no longer GMs no 1 engine we may see a lesser version released for the Camaro, HSV, etc. Look at the supercharged 5.4L that Ford used in the GT40, you can now get it with slightly lower specs in a mustang.

[VZSS250]

Why waste time and effort lobbying for a Camaro when Holden showrooms are missing the Corvette? Honestly, it is beyond me how people are so caught up in Camaro-mania, when the top dog of American performance, the formidable Corvette, is not readily available.

Leave the Camaro to the small right-hand conversion blokes, and lets get the Corvette into the Holden catalogue!

[plonkerchops]

my guess that if it does come to Australia it'll have a premium pricetag that comes with it . Limited numbers means big price ala the Monaro. I bet you wont see any change from about 75 grand...Time will tell

[CV860L]

The Camaro or Corvette will be fine with me, the more choice the better.
As for price, $60,000 - wank,wank. I would estimate around the $90,000 mark.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m252/CV8005/200620Chevrolet20Camaro205-lg.jpg

[mmciau]

The Camaro or Corvette will be fine with me, the more choice the better.
As for price, $60,000 - wank,wank. I would estimate around the $90,000 mark.
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m252/CV8005/200620Chevrolet20Camaro205-lg.jpg

Yes, after all the greedy middle men get their 10%, can't see any change out of $90-100K AUD. History will repeat itself.

Mike

[Sonic_Brew]

Why waste time and effort lobbying for a Camaro when Holden showrooms are missing the Corvette? Honestly, it is beyond me how people are so caught up in Camaro-mania, when the top dog of American performance, the formidable Corvette, is not readily available.

Leave the Camaro to the small right-hand conversion blokes, and lets get the Corvette into the Holden catalogue!


The Z06 corvette is a supercar by specs, and even the standard corvette would be considered a serious sports car. We wouldnt see a new Corvette on our shores for a reasonable price, and the Z06 would be up around $180,000.

Sure they are nice a ****, but they are an exotic car for us, and that must be a major reason they dont bring them here. For Yanks, a Z06 would be more common than a Clubby, and a vett would be like a SS.

[vxssgurl]

Why waste time and effort lobbying for a Camaro when Holden showrooms are missing the Corvette? Honestly, it is beyond me how people are so caught up in Camaro-mania, when the top dog of American performance, the formidable Corvette, is not readily available.

Leave the Camaro to the small right-hand conversion blokes, and lets get the Corvette into the Holden catalogue!


Holden is missing the Vette because it is not manufactured RHD, so it needs to come through Aussie compliance, and like the current H2 Hummers, you would see a 6 figure price tag - no market sustainability at that price, hence no imports.

The Camaro in it's reworked format is going into factory production in the US in late 2008/early 2009 for 2009 US (and hopefully Aussie) release.

The Yanks have incredible data to back up the Camaro as being an icon to revitalise - sales of the "new" Chargers and Mustangs went through the roof when these models were released into the US - and not to mention the souped up Chevrolet SSR rod/utility with it's big block power plant...

The sale price for the Camaro will most likely head into the high $70's or mid $80's... you only need to look at the pricing for the Chrysler 300C to see where this baby will be marketed (they start at $70K) - they sell in the US for UNDER $US30K with the big block Hemi (with 0% finance no less!)

You can add my name to the list of "I just want one"...!

[xploit]

Different market...Corvette is a 2 seater sports car, Monaro was a sporty 2 door sedan.
And many other countries would be candidates for a RHD Corvette.
1. Anguilla
2. Antigua and Barbuda
3. Australia
4. Bahamas
5. Bangladesh
6. Barbados
7. Bermuda
8. Bhutan
9. Botswana
10. Brunei
11. Cayman Islands
12. Christmas Island (Australia)
13. Cook Islands
14. Cyprus
15. Dominica
16. East Timor
17. Falkland Islands
18. Fiji
19. Grenada
20. Guernsey (Channel Islands)
21. Guyana
22. Hong Kong
23. India
24. Indonesia
25. Ireland
26. Isle of Man
27. Jamaica
28. Japan
29. Jersey (Channel Islands)
30. Kenya
31. Kiribati
32. Cocos (Keeling) Islands (Australia)
33. Lesotho
34. Macau
35. Malawi
36. Malaysia
37. Maldives
38. Malta
39. Mauritius
40. Montserrat
41. Mozambique
42. Namibia
43. Nauru
44. Nepal
45. New Zealand
46. Niue
47. Norfolk Island (Australia)
48. Pakistan
49. Papua New Guinea
50. Pitcairn Islands (Britain)
51. Saint Helena
52. Saint Kitts and Nevis
53. Saint Lucia
54. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
55. Seychelles
56. Singapore
57. Solomon Islands
58. South Africa
59. Sri Lanka
60. Suriname
61. Swaziland
62. Tanzania
63. Thailand
64. Tokelau (New Zealand)
65. Tonga
66. Trinidad and Tobago
67. Turks and Caicos Islands
68. Tuvalu
69. Uganda
70. United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland)
71. Virgin Islands (British)
72. Virgin Islands (US)
73. Zambia
74. Zimbabwe

:D


wow!! somebody was quiet at work today haha :stick:

[commodoreone]

:wave: Oh yee of little faith. If we do get the Camaro, I can't see them not giving it a decent interior, but then who knows ?


Okay if they only do a 6ltr, we'll just have to stroke them to 400 cui.

As for retro looks not working, think new Mini ?? Success story or what.

Lets maintain the rage, and let them know we want it here and as a decent package ........

"CAMARO FOR OZ"

[Jac001]

[QUOTE=vxssgurl;814163]The sale price for the Camaro will most likely head into the high $70's or mid $80's... you only need to look at the pricing for the Chrysler 300C to see where this baby will be marketed (they start at $70K) - they sell in the US for UNDER $US30K with the big block Hemi (with 0% finance no less!)

[QUOTE]


from www.chrysler.com.au


300C
3.5L V6 Auto From RRP $53,990 AUD
3.0L CRD Auto From RRP $57,990 AUD
5.7L HEMI V8 Auto From RRP $59,990 AUD

300C Touring
Touring 3.5L V6 Auto From RRP $56,990 AUD
Touring 3.0L CRD V6 Auto From RRP $60,990 AUD
Touring 5.7L HEMI V8 Auto From RRP $62,990 AUD

300C SRT8
6.1L SRT8 Auto From RRP $71,990 AUD

300C Touring SRT8
Touring 6.1L SRT8 Auto From RRP $74,990 AUD

[Swordie]

I would predict the Vett will sell in small numbers. I wonder if it's really worth the effort of importing it from a financial sense. Holden has been saying for years the Vett may get imported.

Ford imported the Mustang and it didn't succeed, different car though and not comparing apples with apples.

The Camaro will probably have better suspension and 50/50 weight distribution.

[Red CV8 R]

Would be interesting to see how many Monaro buyers reckon they would buy the Camaro. I think that would give you an indication if it is a good idea or not. Personally I wouldnt buy one.

[RED R8]

I spoke to my jeep dealer when I bought the new one a couple of months ago about the new Charger and he showed me two signed orders for the first two at $100k each he said if they end up cheaper so be it but 100k is the price so I can't see the new Camaro being much cheaper.

[hogs]

Evening,

COMMODOREONE, stated in the early post that he would consider changing to a European "supercar" if something on the local market did not eventuate!

There seems to be a lot of discussion on the Camaro and Corvette etc, but no one appears to include the HSV VE GTS which is locally produced, and not a bad jigger for most peoples dollars!

Why the fixation on buying something that the Yanks want to flog to us, after basically burying the Monaro concept due to pure $$$$'s

I may be wrong, so please correct me if that is the case. But I would much rather invest in local products than shop overseas, if possible.:mad:

Cheers,

Hogs;)

[Red CV8 R]

The issue with the VE GTS is it has 4 doors... ;)

[hogs]

Evening,

Well I guess that when you have a World class machine but it does have two additional doors, it must frustrate many buyers?

I may be right off the pace, but I for one do not like the idea of us "AUSSIES" who, recently reinvented a 68 to 74ish classic, then to be only dictated to by the YANKS to cease production, to then be supporting their importing of some CLASSICS from their heritage!!

CAMARO, CORVETTE, MUSTANG ETC, YANK not AUSSIE!!!:spew:

Support the LOCALS fellas!!!

Cheers,

Hogs.:cussing:

[cwhast]

I'm a little confused as to how the FTA will come into getting the Camaro here for a good price as it will actually be Canadian-built, not American. But maybe that's a good thing as far as the employer pension thing goes in Jesusland. From what I hear, the car itself will be built in Oshawa, Ontario, and the LSx engine will either come from Saint Catherines, Ontario (where we got the LS1 and LS2) or some plant in Mexico (where we get the L76 and L98).

[Red CV8 R]

Evening,

Well I guess that when you have a World class machine but it does have two additional doors, it must frustrate many buyers?

I may be right off the pace, but I for one do not like the idea of us "AUSSIES" who, recently reinvented a 68 to 74ish classic, then to be only dictated to by the YANKS to cease production, to then be supporting their importing of some CLASSICS from their heritage!!

CAMARO, CORVETTE, MUSTANG ETC, YANK not AUSSIE!!!:spew:

Support the LOCALS fellas!!!

Cheers,

Hogs.:cussing:

When you are buying this sort of car it is a very personal purchase, you buy out of desire. So yeah the style has alot to do with it. A GTS to me is an awesome car but it is still a regular production commodore style vehicle often bought because the buyer needs 4 doors but still wants Hi-po V8 performance.

If you want a V8 performance coupe I dont think there is a choice, it will be a Yank 2 door or nothing. There wont be another Aussie built Monaro because the market is just not there. There is a market in the USA so it just makes sense. Still I dont really like the Camaro so I wouldnt buy one. Allthough hopefully it will be alot lighter then the VE GTS and offer some real sports car like performance and handling!

I really have no idea what I would replace the Monaro with actually. I like the fact that the Monaro is a uniquely Aussie V8 performance coupe but If I was in the position to, I would buy the corvette even though it is not an Aussie car. It is light, handles really well, has lots of V8 grunt and 12 second quaters stock and most importantly it looks so smooth (no retro crap or stupid buldges). But hey I am just one buyer and may be completely alone. Also the GTS doesnt seem to have any lack of buyers so they are doing something very right!

[pteropid]

I have been duly informed by my fiance, that if the Camaro is released in Australia at ANY stage, the Monaro is going...

...Hmmm this could get nasty.

...Then again, the more I look at the Camaro the less convincing is needed.

[mustanger]

She`s ONLY your fiance. It`s not as if you are married.:hide:

[pteropid]

She`s ONLY your fiance. It`s not as if you are married.:hide:

Bwahahahahhaaa

Try telling her that!

Took me 18 months to convince her the Monaro was a good buy, now she drives it to work everyday and tells everyone that I'm her sugar daddy who pays for HER Monaro (Cheeky biatch)

If the opinions of a 6' tall 25 yr old, blonde smarta$$ chick are anything to go by, then the Camaro will sell big time here in Aus...

[mustanger]

In my opinion, The Camaro will make its way to OZ. after 2009. There will be no Monaro. The corvette on the other hand is only a very , very ,very slight possibilaty. The Camaro will cater for the guys (or fiances) who must have a two door RWD with a big V8 under the hood.......Cheers John

[pteropid]

In my opinion, The Camaro will make its way to OZ. after 2009. There will be no Monaro. The corvette on the other hand is only a very , very ,very slight possibilaty. The Camaro will cater for the guys (or fiances) who must have a two door RWD with a big V8 under the hood.......Cheers John

Agreed, as much as I would like to believe the rather strong statments by Holden that the Monaro will return, I don't think it will happen. Something tells me that even if it is released, I don't think it will have the same impact that it did at the turn of the century.

As far as the Camaro goes, it will definitely be available in Australia, but at 60K I think that is a wet dream, try at least 80K. I suspect that some of the sweet lines and aggressive stance that you see on the concept will be lost though, I wouldn't be suprised if it becomes more vanilla. If that is the case then I think there will be less support for it (sales wise). In that case it will still be available in Australia but as a 100K+ import with RHD conversion.

[mustanger]

Your right on the money there $80-$100K.:yup:

Chrysler is trying to bring the Dodge Challenger out here ,about the same time ,and I think the pricing will be the same.

[plonkerchops]

I really have no idea what I would replace the Monaro with actually. I like the fact that the Monaro is a uniquely Aussie V8 performance coupe but If I was in the position to, I would buy the corvette even though it is not an Aussie car. It is light, handles really well, has lots of V8 grunt and 12 second quaters stock and most importantly it looks so smooth (no retro crap or stupid buldges). But hey I am just one buyer and may be completely alone. Also the GTS doesnt seem to have any lack of buyers so they are doing something very right!

nahh mate youre not alone......:wave:

[vxssgurl]

Why waste time and effort lobbying for a Camaro when Holden showrooms are missing the Corvette? Honestly, it is beyond me how people are so caught up in Camaro-mania, when the top dog of American performance, the formidable Corvette, is not readily available.

Leave the Camaro to the small right-hand conversion blokes, and lets get the Corvette into the Holden catalogue!

You're missing the point - Camaro WILL be built right hand, and the Corvette WON"T - so your conversion blokes will be working overtime trying to suss out how in hell to change the coversion under the hood of the Vette - NOT much room under there I can assure you...

People are, as you say, so caught up in Camaro mania, because the car harks back to the pre-eminent years of American muscle car performance - the 60's... whereas the Vette just looks like (to me) a Euro-trash wanna-be.

For a lot of folks, it's not ALL about performace. There has to be looks and street appeal in the package as well. And for a lot of folks out there, there is a lot of Bow Tie appreciation going on too. I come from a Chev family. I have 2 in my garage... plus Red ( plus a Studie ), so the possibility of adding such a cool, retro-inspired performance-based homage to the REAL performace years is what makes most of us (*me*) salivate.

[commodoreone]

:wave: I see your point, Red CV8 R and hogs - I actually have a VY Monaro myself and love it. I'd prefer to see another Monaro release but hey, I just don't believe the commerce stacks up based on the historically weak global sales.

Don't get me wrong, I just can't understand why it wasn't more popular, cause I recon it's a beast. The fact is Camaro has very strong brand recognition across the world, so it would sell well not just in the US but in many other markets including ours.

If the Monaro is out for good, then I want a GM replacement coupe. The VE Commodore is a nice machine, but I just can't get into the 4 door shape.

The camaro would be a comprimise, but pretty good one.....(then again I may be biased as I also have a '78 Camaro)

"Camaro for OZ".......

[JohnS]

Would be interesting to see how many Monaro buyers reckon they would buy the Camaro. I think that would give you an indication if it is a good idea or not. Personally I wouldnt buy one.

That may be true of Monaro owners today but what about in 5 years when the new camaro comes standard with all the electronic gadgets (satnav, ass warmer, etc.) and more effecient and powerful engines?

[burninwheels]

I would love to have one of those, but would be a hard choice between that and a dodge challenger.

[Red CV8 R]

That may be true of Monaro owners today but what about in 5 years when the new camaro comes standard with all the electronic gadgets (satnav, ass warmer, etc.) and more effecient and powerful engines?

If gadgets were all I was interested in then why not just buy a V8 Calais V or the HSV? It is all about the style and performance of the car. However I agree in 5 years it may be a completely different story. 80% of Monaro owners will probably have gotten rid of their cars by then. Only time will tell.

BTW I think seat warmers in Aus are a waste of time :p

[JohnS]

BTW I think seat warmers in Aus are a waste of time :p

In 5 years time we may have iceburgs drifting up sydney harbour :D

[Nobby]

Yay free penguin shows!

[V-Car]

For anyone who's interested, the new ZO6 Vette will be at the Brisbane Motor Show next month.

[Sonic_Brew]

^^^ I saw one of these on the freeway about a month ago (maybe it was just a regular vette... was yellow... dont know exactly how to tell the difference from the outside).

It looked beautiful, just amazing! The lines, inserts, arches... it all just workes together so well, so agressive yet subtle and sexy.

After seeing and being in a lamborghini merci I would definately say the vette made my large wang larger than the lambo did based on looks alone. Its hard to say why, but in person the Vette is just stunning! Lambo was... eh.

[billy4455]

I love the idea - been thinking for a while for a replacement for the monaro, hate cars out of the warranty period. I only have 3 things I want in a car:

1. V8
3. Convertible
4. under $90k price tag

I don;t thisk there is any other car which comes close to meeting these requirements (hopefully the concept comes to life)

[chevypower]

Ford tried selling a US$20,000 V8 convertible in Australia for $90,000
it's funny, all the Mustang's i see on the road (which is hardly ever) have GT on the rear bumper. Ford Australia sold the "Cobra" - i don't even remember seeing any of these on the road, never met anyone that bought one. Could the Camaro be successful here? It looks like a much better car, and i think it could, but certainly not over $60,000. Remember these are factory RHD too, Ford converted each Mustang in low volume.

[SS Enforcer]

The Comaro would be a huge success here provided they don't overprice it. 20 grand over the price of a ssv would be fine but if it's a lot more I doubt they will sell too many.
Maybe if it was moved into the HSV stable and priced the same as the R8 it would sell plenty and still turn a tidy profit IMHO.

cheers

[vxssgurl]

^^^ I saw one of these on the freeway about a month ago (maybe it was just a regular vette... was yellow... dont know exactly how to tell the difference from the outside).

It looked beautiful, just amazing! The lines, inserts, arches... it all just workes together so well, so agressive yet subtle and sexy.

After seeing and being in a lamborghini merci I would definately say the vette made my large wang larger than the lambo did based on looks alone. Its hard to say why, but in person the Vette is just stunning! Lambo was... eh.


There is a 2001/2 model Calloway 'Vette getting around Melbourne - maybe it was the same one on holidays?

Knew-ish the owner of the Calloway - it was a personal import. The paint job is awesome, to say the least. Like sprayed on yellow gold that seems multi-dimensional... I'd hate to have to repair it!

It took out best sports car 2002 at the CCV concourse.

Apparently there was no change left out of $A185K after conversion and compliance...

[Sonic_Brew]

There is a 2001/2 model Calloway 'Vette getting around Melbourne - maybe it was the same one on holidays?

Knew-ish the owner of the Calloway - it was a personal import. The paint job is awesome, to say the least. Like sprayed on yellow gold that seems multi-dimensional... I'd hate to have to repair it!

It took out best sports car 2002 at the CCV concourse.

Apparently there was no change left out of $A185K after conversion and compliance...

I think this one was a newy. Factory paint, but it a great colour! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Nobby]

Ford tried selling a US$20,000 V8 convertible in Australia for $90,000
it's funny, all the Mustang's i see on the road (which is hardly ever) have GT on the rear bumper. Ford Australia sold the "Cobra" - i don't even remember seeing any of these on the road, never met anyone that bought one. Could the Camaro be successful here? It looks like a much better car, and i think it could, but certainly not over $60,000. Remember these are factory RHD too, Ford converted each Mustang in low volume.
The Camaro might do better with the free trade scheme in force as long as the americans play fair. Which they wont, so it will be about $70K minimum I reckon.
Econominc fairness with the yanks only goes one way.

PS - The Mustang that came to Aus was freakin awful.

[Super Snake]

If Ford had brought out the current Mustang, it would have sold here.

But if they do bring out the Camaro, I will buy one, especially a convertible model.

[mug1000]

can't wait to see it for real

[Pickles]

Can't wait to see it either--as far as price is concerned, it will not be under $80k. It apparently will have similar running gear to HSV products, so Holden will not undersell HSV. I think it'll be a great car, but only appealing to a niche market here. It could not possibly be built RHD just for the Aus market--I believe it will come to us, but only because of the wider RHD market appeal of such a vehicle.
Cheers, Pickles.

[commodoreone]

:wave: If it's too expensive ($80 +) it will be a hard sell, but if they price it circa $70K I think it will be a winner in this market.

If it does come here ( and it looks like it will - see SMH article 19/1/07) I'll will definetly have one, but not at a price over $80K . I rather wait and get a 12 month old car, or dare I say it go European.

BRING THE CAMARO TO OZ ( BUT AT A REASONABLE PRICE....)

[Dacious]

There is a mob importing new GT Mustangs. They sell for $115,000 complianced and RHD.

Here's a carsguide comparo: GT vs CV8Z vs 350Z.

The Cobras rebuilt by Tickford were the older 390hp all-alloy quad-cam Ford 4.6 (that Ford was sued for in the US overstating HP on). The last ones were flogged off for -$20K as 'exec-driven/demos'. They had to move the engine and trans mountings, new exhaust and intake to meet ADRs which dropped hp. They still rode like trucks, steered like gravel drays (and had interiors to match) and the ABS and Traction Control wouldn't apparently stop them from swapping ends with mild provocation.

I read tests at the time by Tuckey and others which said your blood would have to bleed Blue to take one over a Monaro.


In these conditions the Mustang is much less happy. It combines the razor-sharp turn-in of a new MX-5 with the rear-axle control of an EA Falcon, and is disconcerting to drive hard, if perversely fun at the same time because of the challenge it presents.

The steering offers zero feel, though, and the poorly controlled rear-end dances and twitches over patchy surfaces, requiring jabs of opposite lock to counter the bump steer. No surprises, too, that it axle tramps fiercely when gassed up over less-than-glassy hotmix. At least the softish suspension – surely tuned for Detroit’s potholes and California’s jarring concrete freeway joins – brings a very comfortable ride when cruising around town.


Monaro/Mustang350z Comparo (http://wheels.carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/DesktopDefault.aspx?ArticleID=1634715&TabID=501060&Alias=wheelsau).

And that's the new one. Imagine how bad the old one must've been!

Americans fall over themselves to buy these. I think the VE is going to be wasted on them, quite frankly.

[Nobby]

Wouldn't the Mustang be awesome if yanks had nothing to do with it?

[commodoreone]

:yahoo: It looks like it is a go for the new Camaro for OZ !!!!!!


YYeehhhaaaaa... My brother read an artcile on Nine MSN yestrerday which confirmed that GM will be bringing Camaro to OZ in 2008 or 2009 .Apparently their is also an article in next month's Motor Mag confirming the same.

Sure it isn't a Holden, but it comes from the same family .....

Hope they bring out a 427 with 500 + standard horses (after the initial launch period)

Who gonna place an order ??????

[`redoctober]

http://www.technochitlins.com/archives/230885378xzLwLf_ph.jpg

Looks like a hot wheels car copulated with a GT500 knockoff and a Viper.

Horrible, absolutely horrible.

[commodoreone]

:serenade: I don't think this is the design is it ?

The prototype is much better looking than this. I think this picture is a mock up from someone else - not the production car I have seen.

The unit going into production looks HOT - much better than this.

[`redoctober]

:serenade: I don't think this is the design is it ?

The prototype is much better looking than this. I think this picture is a mock up from someone else - not the production car I have seen.

The unit going into production looks HOT - much better than this.
I know, GEN III was just saying that the production version should look like that. I beg to differ.

http://www.carbodydesign.com/archive/2006/01/10-chevrolet-camaro-concept/2006%20Chevrolet%20Camaro%20Concept%203-lg.jpg

2008 Camaro, now THAT's a sexy car, much better than that orange excuse for a car :spew:

[Red CV8 R]

That picture makes me think of the puppet Agro for some reason :p

[mustanger]

They might look ok , but the build quality might be a different story :teach:

[Belzey]

OMFG that is hot.. That will look nice parked up next to the R8 :nyuk: :nyuk:

[`redoctober]

OMFG that is hot.. That will look nice parked up next to the R8 :nyuk: :nyuk:
I could see Troy driving that actually :p

[Belzey]

I could see Troy driving that actually :p



Nah I will drive that he can drive the R8 :p

[`redoctober]

Nah I will drive that he can drive the R8 :p
God no, I don't want to see pics of a damaged Camaro on here. :lol:

[Belzey]

God no, I don't want to see pics of a damaged Camaro on here. :lol:




OOooooo talking nasty now hey... I will remember this Robert oh yeah I will :p

[`redoctober]

OOooooo talking nasty now hey... I will remember this Robert oh yeah I will :p
Buy some rims and a G8 bonnet already :evil: :D

[Belzey]

Buy some rims and a G8 bonnet already :evil: :D


I dont like the G8 bonnet :p and someone is finding out about some rims for me..

[`redoctober]

Back on track, I think I want a Camaro.

[GEN III]

Looks like a hot wheels car copulated with a GT500 knockoff and a Viper.

Horrible, absolutely horrible.



Actually your right. Never really looked before but its a bad chop of about 3-5diffrent cars. There was a rolling prototype similar to this a while ago. Some photos taken of it in the US? Maybe it was a Camaro prototype, maybe it wasnt. It looked good. That pic reminded me of it.

As for the real Camaro. Ahh...... I have reserve my judgment on inspection. So far I'm not to sure about it.

[fenderslash]

I have wanted one of these ever since I saw a pic of the prototype in Australian Muscle Car magazine ages ago. Ever since then I have been wondering whether or not I'd be able to afford one. Anybody want to make a guess on what the V8 version will set us back?

The latest press release says the V6 version will cost about $40000. Coincidentally that's about the same as the list price for a new VE SV6. Using that as a starting point, and the fact that the SS and SSV Commodores list at about $45000 and $52000 respectively, hopefully the V8 version/s of the Camaro will follow similar price lines. I wouldn't be able to afford one at HSV prices but I reckon at around $50000 I'll be driving one in a few years time.

[Pickles]

I have wanted one of these ever since I saw a pic of the prototype in Australian Muscle Car magazine ages ago. Ever since then I have been wondering whether or not I'd be able to afford one. Anybody want to make a guess on what the V8 version will set us back?

The latest press release says the V6 version will cost about $40000. Coincidentally that's about the same as the list price for a new VE SV6. Using that as a starting point, and the fact that the SS and SSV Commodores list at about $45000 and $52000 respectively, hopefully the V8 version/s of the Camaro will follow similar price lines. I wouldn't be able to afford one at HSV prices but I reckon at around $50000 I'll be driving one in a few years time.
A V6 version??--in a Camaro!!--with that beautiful, muscular, body shape, would be a total waste of time--just like the V6 Monaro was.
As far as pricing is concerned-if it's got an LS2 in it, & for the type of car that it is, I'd reckon $70k Aus in today's money--minimum.--Even $70k will seriously undercut HSV offerings.-- So yeah, pricing will be "interesting" to say the least, but I see Holden aiming the car at a niche market, & I don't see them aiming it as a volume seller--rather it will be on the prestige/HSV side of the market.
Cheers, Pickles.

[commodoreone]

:wave: The lines look great - every time I see a photo of the new beast I like it even more.

Pricing will be interesting as there will be a 6 Cyl version upfront much the same as the initial launch of Chrysler's 300 C. I must say though I can't see the 6 version being a big seller here.

As for the V8 6 litre LS2 or upgraded 7 litre, that is a different story. I reckon they'll pitch the LS2 version at about $65-$70K (although I hope a little cheaper) and who knows about a possible 427 - 7 litre ????

I want one now - bring it here in 2007/08, I just can't wait !!!!!

[xploit]

Ill have one as soon as i turn 21 :D

they are one hot set of wheels.

Plus holden/chevrolet/GM pataytoe, patarto theres no difference.

(and yes im aware of spelling okay?) haha:D

[arcit]

Hey guys, i'll be honest that i'm a nuubee, but i think this is just as good as any other thread to start off on. My thoughts on the Camaro are that it looks unreal. Imagine rolling up at the lights and looking next to you and seeing something like that on the australian roads... I'd chase the poor bugger just to keep pervin at those curves of metal. One think i worry about is the interior designs they have put in the concept, hope they get a look in.

C'Mon Holden import, or even better yet build these over here. Not sure what it would do to costs but man I can't wait to be able to sit in one of thse puppies if the rumors are indeed true.

I have just sent off an email to Chevrolet America asking for any information they might have on their plan of attack for the Camaro. I'll let you know how that goes. Meanwhile I'm sure they already know that there is a gap in the market at the moment for muscle coupes.

Cheers

[Metal]

(in reply to the camaro not being functional enough)

If it was all about function we would all be driving Hiace vans... But i know what you mean.



Damn Straight!! I want functional, but I also want that car...:bow:

Also. : Thank god they are leaving it badged as a Chevy Camaro (if it does come here (PLEASE COME HERE!!))

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0703_z+2009_chevrolet_camaro+03.jpg
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0602_naias_z+2009_chevrolet_camaro_concept+rear_si de_corner.jpg
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0703_z+2009_chevrolet_camaro+02.jpg

*DROOLS*

[chevypower]

I have just sent off an email to Chevrolet America asking for any information they might have on their plan of attack for the Camaro. I'll let you know how that goes. Meanwhile I'm sure they already know that there is a gap in the market at the moment for muscle coupes.

Cheers

I wouldnt expect much in reply. They won't reveal any information before they put it it in a press release. Then it will be on every car website there is.

[arcit]

Further more to my previous post here is what Chevrolet had to say...

.................................................. ...............................................
Thank you for contacting Chevrolet and for your interest in the Chevrolet Camaro! The 2009 Camaro is scheduled to start production in late 2008, and it will be available in the first quarter of 2009. The convertible model should follow later in 2009. The production version of the Camaro will be almost identical to the concept. The front-engine, rear-wheel-drive sport coupe will feature an independent rear suspension, and will be offered in a variety of models with the choice of manual and automatic transmissions and V-6 and V-8 engines. We do not have information on where or if the Camaro will be exported to.

Sincerely,

The Chevrolet Marketing Team

.................................................. ..................................................

[NRD80Y]

Some of the best pictures i've seen of the Camero used in the new Transformers movie

http://www.jesterpictures.com/transformers/ilmtrip/tfcars.html

http://www.jesterpictures.com/transformers/ilmtrip/carshots/10bumblebee.jpg
http://www.jesterpictures.com/transformers/ilmtrip/carshots/16bumblebee.jpg

[mustanger]

I will definately be getting one of these babies. A convertible with the biggest engine available.:driving: They will be released 9 months after the launch in the United States.:)

[SteveK]

I will definately be getting one of these babies. A convertible with the biggest engine available.:driving: They will be released 9 months after the launch in the United States.:)

I'm right there with you John. :driving:

Convertible pics (http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/*query?ws4d_nav=true&search_criteria=camaro&source=all&page=2)

[mustanger]

I'm right there with you John. :driving:

Convertible pics (http://gm.wieck.com/forms/gm/*query?ws4d_nav=true&search_criteria=camaro&source=all&page=2)

Thanks for those pics Steve . Very nice:drool::drool:

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

MYwife is trying to put a dep on one through zupps in bris :)


Would be interesting to see how many Monaro buyers reckon they would buy the Camaro. I think that would give you an indication if it is a good idea or not. Personally I wouldnt buy one.
WELL START a poll we have gto now and well by a camaro if it looks the same as the one in the movie :)

[iloveholden]

The new Camaro looks sensational, i hope the exhaust note is like it is in the transformers movie haha

[commodoreone]

:) Guys seems there is a huge amount of enthusiasm out there - the question is how do we get GM (GMH) to hear us.... we need them to really undersatnd how much Aussies want the new Camaro and for them to act on it.

What does everyone think about starting a petition - I am talking about a positive unified message to send GM, that convinces them to release the car here for a reasonable price ??


Who is up for it ?

[Vulture]

I'm right there with you John. :driving:

Yep, put me down too. Just have to decide whether to keep the VZ til then or get a E R8 in between but will have one of those parked in the garage some time in 2009-2010.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

:) Guys seems there is a huge amount of enthusiasm out there - the question is how do we get GM (GMH) to hear us.... we need them to really undersatnd how much Aussies want the new Camaro and for them to act on it.

What does everyone think about starting a petition - I am talking about a positive unified message to send GM, that convinces them to release the car here for a reasonable price ??


Who is up for it ?
IM in,we wont to put a deposet on one

[heavyduty1340]

My missus has got her hand up for one

reckons if I can have a monaro , a harley and a boat that she is entitled to one(only if I can drive it:1peek:

[commodoreone]

:) sounds great- so how do we advance the cause ??

[seldo]

Hehe...what about the fake drilled rotors on the Camaro in NRD80Y's photos....wonder how it stops without calipers.....??

[heavychevy]

There's the glimpse of a caliper behind the fake drilled rotor :spew:

[NRD80Y]

So who wants to own the Bumblebee Camero used in the Transformers movie? It's being auctioned off for charity
http://cgi.ebay.com/TRANSFORMERS-Bumblebee-1977-Chevy-Camaro-3008_W0QQitemZ200126643267QQihZ010QQcategoryZ60360 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Pickles]

I was absolutely wrapped when I saw pictures of the "retro" camaro a few years ago-thought it looked great,-sensational actually!
However, when I saw it at the Melbourne Motor Show, I was somewhat disappointed--it just looked too BIG. Don't know whether it was just because of the way it was displayed or what--just have to wait & see what one looks like on the road I guess.
Cheers, Pickles.

[commodoreone]

:) I actually have a 78 Camaro, with 350 chev...similar to the movie model.

Pickles interesting comments about your experience. The photos look fantastic - hope the production model does look the part and we actually get it (at a reasonable price).

How do we push our case to GM/GMH ??? "RETRO CAMARO FOR OZ".....

[Pickles]

:) I actually have a 78 Camaro, with 350 chev...similar to the movie model.

Pickles interesting comments about your experience. The photos look fantastic - hope the production model does look the part and we actually get it (at a reasonable price).

How do we push our case to GM/GMH ??? "RETRO CAMARO FOR OZ".....
I'm sure we'll get the Camaro. It's going to be built in R.H.D., so compliance wouldn't be a major issue, and with no local Monaro production for competition, I'd say there's probably just enough demand to make it worthwhile.
I've seen all sorts of the usual "speculation" here about big engines, LS7 etc, but the only articles I've seen with any credibility have spoken only of the LS2 powered vehicles. Of course some have said LS2 is finished!!--so if there's any truth to that, I suppose we'll see LS3 engined 6.2 litre cars, but that would be about it I reckon.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Ako]

Wouldn't the Mustang be awesome if yanks had nothing to do with it?

Woudn't the World be awesome if the yanks had nothing to do with it? :jester:

[ATMO_BT1]

haha that Bumblebee one is great!

[chevypower]

Woudn't the World be awesome if the yanks had nothing to do with it? :jester:

What would the world be like if the yanks had nothing to do with it? No GM, no Ford, no LS1, no LS2, no Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes, Vipers etc Could you cope? LOL

[JohnS]

Woudn't the World be awesome if the yanks had nothing to do with it? :jester:

depends if you like sushi and sauerkraut... such short memories...

[ausiemale]

I'll be trading my SS-V for the Camaro when it's released. No question.

[Red CV8 R]

There is a quick drive of the Convertible version of the Camaro in this months Motor mag. They seem to like it although it is far from a production version. Ignoring the looks going on the tech details discussed in this article the car itself should be amazing to drive!

They still suggest there will be a Monaro version. I wouldnt hold my breath!

[Haze_V8]

Very excited about the possibility of the Camaro hitting Aussie shores. If the new Monaro does surface, is built OS, and looks as hideous as the CGI pics in the issue of Motor a couple issues back, then I think my choice will simple - Camaro all the way (providing I can fit in the darn thing - the roof line looks VERY low!)

[Strick]

Does anyone know how much they are going to sell for in the U.S and how much they will put on them over here.

[ausiemale]

I think we can expect to pay around $100k from what I've read. Anyone who tells you they're around the 60k mark is dreaming (straight to the pool room) ;)

[Bearz]

100k?

I dont think so. These are being brought out in the US to compete against the mustang which is cheap as chips in the US. In the US it will be priced at Mustang prices. In AU it will be dependant on if there is a Monaro. If there is one it will be priced under Monaro levels.

[burninwheels]

Didn't they mention that the V6 version is going to be around the 40k mark?

[calais v]

I prefer the original 69 :) Like the one in my garage. The 502 would eat any LS2 :rofl:

[Nobby]

depends if you like sushi and sauerkraut... such short memories...
So in the alternate future we'd also all be driving Skylines and Phaeton's on the cheap.

Sounds alright to me.

[XR4TED]

I will start by saying don't take this as gospel. The word on the streets from a mate in the US is they will drop for about 40K US ($46K AUD with current conversion). As they are competing with Mustang and don't forget they can't out price the value of the Vette this seems like a reasonable price. It looks like it will be an LS3 and there is talk of a supercharged 500hp version. This should be in line with the new vette supposed to be coming in at around 68K US and 700hp. Don't forget the camaro in the states is the poormans vette and always will be to them.

[Sonic_Brew]

I will start by saying don't take this as gospel. The word on the streets from a mate in the US is they will drop for about 40K US ($46K AUD with current conversion). As they are competing with Mustang and don't forget they can't out price the value of the Vette this seems like a reasonable price. It looks like it will be an LS3 and there is talk of a supercharged 500hp version. This should be in line with the new vette supposed to be coming in at around 68K US and 700hp. Don't forget the camaro in the states is the poormans vette and always will be to them.

They may be cheap in th US and A, but once they get here they cost heaps more.

Z06: USA $65,000
in Aust. $220,000

300C: USA about $33,000
In Aust. $60,000+

If it's priced at over $40k in the states I'd be betting on at least $80k here.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

WAS talking to the hsv dealer at zupps and was asking me what couler i wanted my new maloo to be ,and we were talking about new camaro and he said IF THEY IMPORT IT there will only bee 500 to see how they go and they wont have to crash test them ,same as the hummers they have just brought over ,and are wayting for crash test on the rest of the shipment,

[Jac001]

If it's priced at over $40k in the states I'd be betting on at least $80k here.

Agreed.

Make a list of all the large rwd v8 on the australian market and then decide where the camero will be priced at.

You will then need to decide if its pricing will impact on HVS and holden cars (if priced too low).

[chevypower]

The Mustang V6 hard top starts from US$19,500, Mustang V8 GT is $30,500 and Shelby 5.4 V8 at $40,000 at $5000 for the convertible models, the Camaro would be priced similarly in the US.

[commodoreone]

:) All good points - the only thing GMH will listen to is customer feedback through their research.. If we are keen to have this beast sold here at reasonable price, we should all communicate our desire or better still form some type of petition.

The more people communicate their desire for "New Camaro for Australia", the more liekly it will happen.

Lets face it if the 300 C has a makret here, I believe the new Camaro certainly would particularly if there is no Monaro repalcement...

Lets start making noise to GMH/GM !!!!

[JohnS]

So in the alternate future we'd also all be driving Skylines and Phaeton's on the cheap.

Sounds alright to me.

No mate you would be the slave labour building them:)

[GEN III]

:) All good points - the only thing GMH will listen to is customer feedback through their research.. If we are keen to have this beast sold here at reasonable price, we should all communicate our desire or better still form some type of petition.

The more people communicate their desire for "New Camaro for Australia", the more liekly it will happen.

Lets face it if the 300 C has a makret here, I believe the new Camaro certainly would particularly if there is no Monaro repalcement...

Lets start making noise to GMH/GM !!!!

Well if you are serious. Put a deposit down. Money talks.

No point jumping on a forum talking about. The only way they will act is if there are interested consumers placing deposits. If they get alot (or enough) depsoits and see the large amount of money lay out and interest generated (money is more important though), then they will have no choice but to do something about it. Either positive or negative, is unknown at this stage untill we (consumers) do something about it. Force there hand early.