VE Cop cars

[Road Warrior]

Surprised you guys havent seen any of these on the street or posted up pics yet :D

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let the cop spec Omega have a V8 in it...

http://www.inthejob.com/Andrew2.jpg

http://judd-nightingale.fotopic.net/p36776372.html

[Aus8]

There has been pics of them thrown around here before mate. Seen plenty of BF2 and a couple of VE's around Perth.

Cheers

Aus8

[Goggles]

Surprised you guys havent seen any of these on the street or posted up pics yet :D

see here:
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=802146&postcount=33

[craigus]

gonna be funny seeing them in the new SS. suc ha mean and angry lookin car. throw on the lights n stickers and they are bound to instill fear in to people!

[Goggles]

gonna be funny seeing them in the new SS. suc ha mean and angry lookin car. throw on the lights n stickers and they are bound to instill fear in to people!

I can tell you the SS in thread I just quoted above, looked as mean as hell in full "dress." I couldn't take any more pics as I was driving, and the cop was having a good look at me as he wandered past. in fact he was alongside me for what seemed like an age.

[Y2kGoofball]

the NSW force isnt expecting their fleet to start arriving until late this month or early next month hence why we havent seen any on the road.

there are a few done, but their not in use at the moment ... or their very close to being put to use

[Micks]

Who cares, such is life.

Cheers
VYT

[VL Executive]

Will there be 6.0 V8 VE Omega cop cars?

[BadMac]

Will there be 6.0 V8 VE Omega cop cars?

No, the Omega "cop" pack is V6. The SS "Cop" pack is V8 (note: these are 2 special models).

[Mozz]

Will there be 6.0 V8 VE Omega cop cars?

There were V8 variants in the VTII, VX, VXII, VY, VYII, VZ model executive (omega in the VE) police cars used here in Australia - so it's a reasonable question as to whether a V8 variant is going to be available to Oz police for the VE model.

[bosleysmith]

I heard part of the delay for seenig VE'S as cop cars is 'cause Holden ain't supplying them quick enough (have other higher priorities). SAPol pissed off 'cause Holden didn't stock pile the old VZ model, and don't have any incoming cars for 2 - 3 months. Now that they are coming through, Holden are given higher priority to the forces with split fleets (Fords and Holens). In SAPol they have Holden only

I'll finish my entry ... something cut it short. SAPol have Holden only, so Holden more interseted in looking after interstate forces 'cause if they get pissed off they might get more Fords. The first SAPol VE'S going to driver traning unit (hence their name on the banner on the tent in the background of picture). No V8 omega. SAPol getting rid of SS V8'S in their fleet (not for the first time).

[lowriding]

they would have to be 16 inch steelies true ? hmmm

[Fnomna]

Here's a beaten up one :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWF2Z_dC7u4
Lots of spare time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfvRY0fq_-c

[Wingnut]

No V8 omega. SAPOL getting rid of SS V8'S in their fleet (not for the first time).

Bastards, short sighted bureaucrats at work again, wonder how much bonus they get for saving a few dollars with stupid ideas. :doh:

[BLOWN_VXSS]

No SS's, well at least the omega's won't be able to keep up with me.
Surely the Vic boys will keep the SS on fleet, they're gonna be tuff looking cop cars.

[chops]

they would have to be 16 inch steelies true ? hmmm

That's the first question I thought of when I saw one in the flesh.
I didn't get a chance to check though.

[Hados]

I have heard that some of the SAPOL departments are getting out of the SS's... Apparently they can't install the prisoner barriers between the front and rear seats because the SS has Side Impact airbags that will not inflate when the barrier is in place. Holden will not disengage the airbags, so they have to go the Omega that only has front airbags.

[dogsballs]

thats bizarre, as my VZ exec, ex-highway patrol, has side-impact airbags in the seats??

[Hados]

I don't know about other states. I was talking to a traffic cop mate and he said they couldn't have an SS because of that reason. We are in a fairly remote area, so maybe it's just down in these parts where they need the barriers? Anybody else heard this?

[Carrots]

I have heard that some of the SAPOL departments are getting out of the SS's... Apparently they can't install the prisoner barriers between the front and rear seats because the SS has Side Impact airbags that will not inflate when the barrier is in place. Holden will not disengage the airbags, so they have to go the Omega that only has front airbags.

Got told the samething by a mate thats a country copper. So they're getting a VZ V6 wagon now lol.

Might just be the case that certain areas won't get them due to this and that they'll retain SS's for Highway Patrols but country cop shops that have had V8s in the past won't get them now cause the only way to get a V8 is through an SS etc which means too many airbags as Holden won't build an Omega with a V8 where as they did in the past.

Is it the side impact or the A piller air bags? We couldn't quite qork out which when discussing it (at the cricket while a little boozed back in NOvember).

[Rotty]

thats bizarre, as my VZ exec, ex-highway patrol, has side-impact airbags in the seats??

You'll generally find that traffic branch cars aren't usually fitted with the barrier (in Qld anyway)

[jamesd]

I a VE Omega police car down at Glenelg, Jetty road.

[warny83]

v8 or not they'll still be stock and shit. anyone on here should be able to pull away from one unless you love your stock car so much it hurts to make it go faster

[xploit]

that looks ****ing horrible... would like to see a HWP car.

without a HWP pic :worthless:

bdzy88

[deadlywpn_VeSSV]

Hate to take sides here..

However even if you got a monster car, and you can out run the chopper, you certianly cannot out run a radio..

:driving:

[xploit]

so thats the end of the beloved exec v8 :( *sniff*

[VY_SS_Commodore]

I heard part of the delay for seenig VE'S as cop cars is 'cause Holden ain't supplying them quick enough (have other higher priorities). SAPol pissed off 'cause Holden didn't stock pile the old VZ model, and don't have any incoming cars for 2 - 3 months. Now that they are coming through, Holden are given higher priority to the forces with split fleets (Fords and Holens). In SAPol they have Holden only

I'll finish my entry ... something cut it short. SAPol have Holden only, so Holden more interseted in looking after interstate forces 'cause if they get pissed off they might get more Fords. The first SAPol VE'S going to driver traning unit (hence their name on the banner on the tent in the background of picture). No V8 omega. SAPol getting rid of SS V8'S in their fleet (not for the first time).

Where did this information come from?

From what i have heard, SAPOL will be recieving VESS's in the next few months.

[Carrots]

Where did this information come from?

From what i have heard, SAPOL will be recieving VESS's in the next few months.

Can't comment on HP cars...but those exec V8s we've seen in the past will be no more as they can't fit the rear screen to keep the baddies away from the coppers! lol I know one mate got asked if they wanted the SS (he's at a regional station where there is only two of them based working individually) and the only way they can have the SS is without the dividing barrier. Thus they said no way they'll have the VZ wagon instead for the time being.

I don't think the Highway Patrol SSs in SA have the dividing barrier though do they? If they don't currently then chances are they'll still keep on using them you'd think right?

[O5BRKY]

Hate to take sides here..

However even if you got a monster car, and you can out run the chopper, you certianly cannot out run a radio..

:driving:

Or Road spikes!

[heikz_h]

well the aurion has now become a cop car for the queensland police :doh:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/QLDPoliceAurionPoliceCar.jpg

[dogsballs]

so thats the end of the beloved exec v8 :( *sniff*
i believe it when i see it. remember they weren't supposed to put them in after VT/VX, but there are VY and VZ execs around with the v8's ;)

[Road Warrior]

i believe it when i see it. remember they weren't supposed to put them in after VT/VX, but there are VY and VZ execs around with the v8's ;)

That is why I continue to hold onto that faint glimmer of hope :)

[nswps]

Meet the 2007 VE Police Pack Specs for the Omega, SV6 and SS. The Police Pack is Not Available in Any Other Models.

The engines are just as you would buy from the new car showroom, they have no fancy "chips" or secret performance parameters. Sure you can outrun them with you hotted up cars, but as a wise man once said (Me), you can't outrun Motorola and Death.

Happy Reading until I have something new to enlighten you next fortnight.

V6 Engine & Auto Trans 4 Speed- 3.6lt (Omega)
V6 Engine & Auto Trans 5 Speed- 3.6lt Premium - Tiptronic (SV6)
V8 Gen IV Engine & Auto Trans 6 Speed- 6.0lt - Tiptronic (SS)
Optional 6 Speed Manual Trans (SS)
Air Conditioning (ALL)
Dome & Map Reading Lamp (ALL)
Police Certified Instrument Cluster inc. Trap Speed Function (ALL)
Sports Pack Suspension FE2 (ALL)
Optional Country Pack Suspension (Omega)
Restraint Package, Dual Stage Front Airbags, Front Thorax Airbags (ALL)
Optional Full Length Curtain Airbags (ALL)
ABS (ALL)
Traction Control System (ALL)
Electronic Stability Program, incl TC and EBA Functions (ALL)
Axle 3.27:1 Ratio (Omega)
Axle 2.92:1 Ratio (SV6)
Axle 3.45:1 Ratio (SS)
LSD (ALL)
Dual Horns (ALL)
Cruise Control (ALL)
Power Windows x4 incl Auto Down Front (ALL)
Near Obsticle Detection System, Rear Only (ALL)
Heavy Duty Battery 600 CCA Exide (ALL)
Quick Release Battery Terminals (ALL)
120 Amp Mitsubishi Generator (Omega & SV6)
140 Amp Mitsubishi Generator (SS)
Interior Lights Out Function, Overide switch on roof console (ALL)
Auxiliary Battery & Fuse Box, Located in boot (ALL)
Cable Hole & Plug 25mm, LHS Firewall (ALL)
Sump Guard (ALL)
7.00J x 16 Steel Wheels, Silver with plastic centre caps (Omega)
225/60 R16 98V Bridgestone Tyres (Omega)
8.00J x 18 Alloy Wheels (SV6 & SS)
245/45 R18 96V Bridgestone Potenza Tyres (SV6 & SS)
Spare Wheel Full Size (ALL)
Police Specific Brake Pads, Front Only BM1099 (ALL)
Optional LPG (Omega)

Don't tell me I've missed anything, because I have Not until Holden changes their specs.

[vecommo]

120 Amp Mitsubishi Generator (Omega & SV6)
140 Amp Mitsubishi Generator (SS)

So I'm guessing they come with one of these in the boot???:D
http://picsorban.com/upload/generator.jpg

[nswps]

Holden in their specification sheets for VE Police Packs refer to the alternators as "generators" don't ask me why, I just typed it as its written.

Note that Mitsubishi provide them, say something for japanese engineering.

For a $1B car I would have expected Holden to design and build their own.

[teamkiwi]

Happy Reading until I have something new to enlighten you next fortnight.



reckon ya ya could give us a little hint as to what this enlightment may be;)

[james2]

NT has new SS's on the road now,dark blue with the low profile roof lights.Seem to go quite well, have steel wheels,haven't tried one out yet and don't think i will have been told that they are a lot quicker than the XR6T that we still have.Sorry no pics as yet.

[Tyre biter]

nswps,

Thanks for that. A quick question if you might know. Do the Police versions have their speed limited like the 'civilian' versions do?

Cheers, Craig

[dogsballs]

Meet the 2007 VE Police Pack Specs for the Omega, SV6 and SS. The Police Pack is Not Available in Any Other Models.

The engines are just as you would buy from the new car showroom, they have no fancy "chips" or secret performance parameters. Sure you can outrun them with you hotted up cars, but as a wise man once said (Me), you can't outrun Motorola and Death.

Happy Reading until I have something new to enlighten you next fortnight.

V6 Engine & Auto Trans 4 Speed- 3.6lt (Omega)
V6 Engine & Auto Trans 5 Speed- 3.6lt Premium - Tiptronic (SV6)
V8 Gen IV Engine & Auto Trans 6 Speed- 6.0lt - Tiptronic (SS)
Optional 6 Speed Manual Trans (SS)
Air Conditioning (ALL)
Dome & Map Reading Lamp (ALL)
Police Certified Instrument Cluster inc. Trap Speed Function (ALL)
Sports Pack Suspension FE2 (ALL)
Optional Country Pack Suspension (Omega)
Restraint Package, Dual Stage Front Airbags, Front Thorax Airbags (ALL)
Optional Full Length Curtain Airbags (ALL)
ABS (ALL)
Traction Control System (ALL)
Electronic Stability Program, incl TC and EBA Functions (ALL)
Axle 3.27:1 Ratio (Omega)
Axle 2.92:1 Ratio (SV6)
Axle 3.45:1 Ratio (SS)
LSD (ALL)
Dual Horns (ALL)
Cruise Control (ALL)
Power Windows x4 incl Auto Down Front (ALL)
Near Obsticle Detection System, Rear Only (ALL)
Heavy Duty Battery 600 CCA Exide (ALL)
Quick Release Battery Terminals (ALL)
120 Amp Mitsubishi Generator (Omega & SV6)
140 Amp Mitsubishi Generator (SS)
Interior Lights Out Function, Overide switch on roof console (ALL)
Auxiliary Battery & Fuse Box, Located in boot (ALL)
Cable Hole & Plug 25mm, LHS Firewall (ALL)
Sump Guard (ALL)
7.00J x 16 Steel Wheels, Silver with plastic centre caps (Omega)
225/60 R16 98V Bridgestone Tyres (Omega)
8.00J x 18 Alloy Wheels (SV6 & SS)
245/45 R18 96V Bridgestone Potenza Tyres (SV6 & SS)
Spare Wheel Full Size (ALL)
Police Specific Brake Pads, Front Only BM1099 (ALL)
Optional LPG (Omega)

Don't tell me I've missed anything, because I have Not until Holden changes their specs.

Is this limited to the NSW police force?? As QLD and SA, have in the past ordered the execs with the v8's :) , even though the rest weren't allowed

[crYnOid]

VE Omega cop car went past me today in Tassie.

[VZSS_Freak]

Is this limited to the NSW police force?? As QLD and SA, have in the past ordered the execs with the v8's :) , even though the rest weren't allowed


I dont think they were allowed, just the other state may have tougher H and S restirictions, plus holden does place a warning on the order sheet, stating the mismatch between the gen 4 V8 and 15in steelies

Cheers

[nswps]

We have had a Omega Police Pack a touch over 205km/h at a closed circuit recently, so I guess it is not speed limited.

It did not cut out at 205km/h but with a corner approaching fast I had to slow down otherwise I would be reporting on its active safety features.

Both myself and others I work with are waiting with excitement to drive the VE SS Police Pack which will be in Auto. This is suppost to happen Mid Fed 07

Pictures will follow as soon as I am introduced to it.


reckon ya ya could give us a little hint as to what this enlightment may be;)

VE Export Police pack complete with front and rear Push Bars


Is this limited to the NSW police force?? As QLD and SA, have in the past ordered the execs with the v8's :) , even though the rest weren't allowed

Every State in Australia gets the same specs, this is because its a National Police Pack program. This came about because every state ordered a different spec before and Holden with input from the nations police sat down to discuss a standardised national spec, hence the specs I posted.

Overall the program reduces the costs of manufacture with the 07 Omega Police Pack costing just under $28k for the Police to buy.

[Fnomna]

Hmm, wonder if the yanks might be interested in the export pack too this time, not just the arabs?

[Road Warrior]

Hmm, wonder if the yanks might be interested in the export pack too this time, not just the arabs?

Didnt someone try that once with a LHD VX and Holden found out and shitcanned it?

[Tyre biter]

We have had a Omega Police Pack a touch over 205km/h at a closed circuit recently, so I guess it is not speed limited.

Thanks nswps, but ordinarily the SS, SSV and Calais are limited to 250km/h and I think the other models to 240km/h. In any case the 205km/h you got to is well below the limiter/s.

If you are able to make enquiries I'd appreciate knowing the outcome.

The issue is a reasonable one, and though it was for much different reasons, the issue was a major reason why the Police Honda ST1300 pursuit motorcycle was not picked up by a number of jurisdictions (limited to 192km/h as opposed to the 'civilian version's 240km/h capability).

I've also wondered if the cars are limited in the first place because Holden wants to be seen as 'responsible' a la BMW, Mercedes and Porsche or, as has been alluded to by many with regards the Honda Police bike, there are issues such as aero behaviour above certain speeds?

Cheers, Craig

[chopsy]

Thanks nswps, but ordinarily the SS, SSV and Calais are limited to 250km/h and I think the other models to 240km/h. In any case the 205km/h you got to is well below the limiter/s.



What mechanism does the VE use as a speed limiter? I've run my SS-V to an indicated 253 on the digital speedo

[Goggles]

What mechanism does the VE use as a speed limiter? I've run my SS-V to an indicated 253 on the digital speedo

the digital speedo is still not accurate - at least in my VZ SS.

did you run out of road, or did the car stop accelerating? if it stopped accelerating, then I suspect you hit the speed limiter.

my guess is the speed limiter is electronic, like the rev limiter.

[Tyre biter]

What mechanism does the VE use as a speed limiter? I've run my SS-V to an indicated 253 on the digital speedo

No idea chopsy, I just went by the brochures I have - sorry I am not much help.

Was there anything left at 253km/h or was that about it?

See, I had a feeling that 250 might be about it in any case because I rode in a VTII SS some years ago and got to 254, genuine speed, on flat road, in 5th gear (change to 6th and the speed just falls away - seems 6th gear's 0.5 - 1 is just too big a ratio to turn over at that speed).

My point being that whilst kw, torque and engine size are now larger leading one to anticipate the TS to increase, I also understand the diff ratio was lowered a few models back, and the VE carries more weight and a wider (larger) frontal area and so there would be a trade off I would imagine.

This why I'd be interested to learn if you had more in it, what gear you were in to hold that speed, and if you were on level road throughout. Geez that's quick though - it's what, 70m per second!

Cheers, Craig

[chopsy]

I'm not sure if it had anything left in it, I basically ran out of road. It was quite slow climbing those last few km/hs, although it was in D, so would have been in top gear. It felt rock solid up until about 220-230, but beyond that it started feeling pretty light. I wasn't a particularly level bit of road, and every rise in the road was making it feel like it was about to take off

[Wingnut]

Your probably lucky you didn't take off, there was a guy who killed himself and some passengers in SA a year or two ago who was doing 250 on the highway between Adelaide and Pt Pirie. The car hit a small bump in the road, then flew into a tree. Hit the tree about 2 meters off of the ground. Emergency rescue people have said they never seen anything like it (the tree was relatively unharmed by the way :confused: )

I'm not 100% certain, but as far as I am aware the rear spoiler and front air dam do not provide any down force to assist with keeping the car on the road. They are only there for looks. If you feel that you need to break the land speed record, why not get someone to develop a properly adjustable front and rear wings that provide down force to assist with road holding and handling, or go to the salt flats on Lake Eyre when they have their regular speed trials out that way (perfectly flat, long stretch for extended high speed driving)

If you must do stupid things, make sure that the only person who is going to get killed is you. No point taking anyone else with you. Just my 2 cents worth.

[shelbygoat]

Your probably lucky you didn't take off, there was a guy who killed himself and some passengers in SA a year or two ago who was doing 250 on the highway between Adelaide and Pt Pirie. The car hit a small bump in the road, then flew into a tree. Hit the tree about 2 meters off of the ground. Emergency rescue people have said they never seen anything like it (the tree was relatively unharmed by the way :confused: )

I'm not 100% certain, but as far as I am aware the rear spoiler and front air dam do not provide any down force to assist with keeping the car on the road. They are only there for looks. If you feel that you need to break the land speed record, why not get someone to develop a properly adjustable front and rear wings that provide down force to assist with road holding and handling, or go to the salt flats on Lake Eyre when they have their regular speed trials out that way (perfectly flat, long stretch for extended high speed driving)

If you must do stupid things, make sure that the only person who is going to get killed is you. No point taking anyone else with you. Just my 2 cents worth.

Great advice! No need to drive like a race car on public streets, but I guess you learn your lesson somehow.

[BigFella]

what about the marked navy blue 300c cop cat gettin round!

:love:

[nswps]

Hmm, wonder if the yanks might be interested in the export pack too this time, not just the arabs?

Take it from someone who has driven a late model Crown Victoria, they are a piece of S**t in a persuit, reminds me of a boat I once owned that sank.

If the yanks drove our VE Omega they would creme themselves, as for the SS they would never again question skippy.

[mustanger]

Take it from someone who has driven a late model Crown Victoria, they are a piece of S**t in a persuit, reminds me of a boat I once owned that sank.

If the yanks drove our VE Omega they would creme themselves, as for the SS they would never again question skippy.

"Whats that skip,you want to take the SS for a spin".:dancenana:

[chopsy]

Great advice! No need to drive like a race car on public streets, but I guess you learn your lesson somehow.

I understand your point, but before you make any judgement, it was daytime, dry weather, the road was empty of other vehicles (clear visibility for several kms), there were no pedestrians (remote outback road) I was in the car alone, and there was no speed limit on the road. Obviously there was a risk involved, but only to myself and my vehicle. I would never attempt anything like that in anything remotely like a built-up area or highway with other vehicles.

Again, agree with your point, but there is a difference between a public street and a remote road with the conditions above.

[BradMc]

I cant ever see myself doing 250km/hr but if your cool doing that, and nobody is in any danger then go for it.

[Tyre biter]

Chopsy,

FYI last night when reading Peter Robinson's (Wheels Magazine) book on the VE called AutoBiography I learned the 'sustained' TS of VE V8 is 262km/h and the VE V6 is 253km/h!

A great book for anyone that is interested in everything VE, and unlike what is said by some flogging copies on e-bay, it is available to the public. Just Google 'Focus Publishing' in Australia.

Cheers, Craig

[SSV8pilot]

Chopsy,

FYI last night when reading Peter Robinson's (Wheels Magazine) book on the VE called AutoBiography I learned the 'sustained' TS of VE V8 is 262km/h and the VE V6 is 253km/h!

A great book for anyone that is interested in everything VE, and unlike what is said by some flogging copies on e-bay, it is available to the public. Just Google 'Focus Publishing' in Australia.

Cheers, Craig


DO you know if the book is just a hard copy of the wheels mgazine special that was produced?

[Tyre biter]

DO you know if the book is just a hard copy of the wheels mgazine special that was produced?

No, it's a really nice hard cover book broken down into about 12 chapters I think it is with all the behind the scenes stories of VE from start to finish. Great quality book it appears and photos are excellent too.

I saw one (of three) advertisements on e-bay where the seller had taken a lot of photos and summarised each chapter - this might help.

Robinson was in one the whole thing from 'bubble up' eight years ago to release and interviews everyone involved - a great read.

Anyways, have a go at e-bay if you like and failing that, they cost $80 direct from the publisher.

Cheers, Craig

[SSV8pilot]

No, it's a really nice hard cover book broken down into about 12 chapters I think it is with all the behind the scenes stories of VE from start to finish. Great quality book it appears and photos are excellent too.

I saw one (of three) advertisements on e-bay where the seller had taken a lot of photos and summarised each chapter - this might help.

Robinson was in one the whole thing from 'bubble up' eight years ago to release and interviews everyone involved - a great read.

Anyways, have a go at e-bay if you like and failing that, they cost $80 direct from the publisher.

Cheers, Craig

Thanks - I actually bought one on ebay on Wed - cost $58 including postage - so did ok. Looking forward to reading the book

Cheers

[shane W Z]

i've seen a few ve police cars here in darwin all dark metallic blue similar to the vz blue but darker i think they're from the newly reformed traffic branch.I must say they look better than i thought they would.

[twodads]

SApol is the only state not to continue with V8's. holden previously made v8 execs for SApol coz the cost of tyres was too expensive for the entire fleet of, wait for it, 26 SS V8's. Pathetic in it/
so, no omega v8's. wot a shame. nice family lookin omega with v8. never mind.

[Aus8]

SApol is the only state not to continue with V8's. holden previously made v8 execs for SApol coz the cost of tyres was too expensive for the entire fleet of, wait for it, 26 SS V8's. Pathetic in it/
so, no omega v8's. wot a shame. nice family lookin omega with v8. never mind.

Not the only state to not use V8s mate.

[twodads]

Do tell, thort we were the only one's who can't afford to run v8's.

[ryno]

WA Police haven't had V8's for about 4 years.. It has nothing to do with Cash but safety for all concerned..

[VT LS1]

well the aurion has now become a cop car for the queensland police :doh:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/QLDPoliceAurionPoliceCar.jpg


Uniform is also changed to a cardigan and some rather nice slippers....

[Evman]

I wonder if the torque limiting programing is still active..might give those who wanna try get away a bit of a head start :p

[twodads]

how do you think Police not having v8's is safety for all concerned???

[CharlieDontSurf]

Now that stability control is available and standard on V8's with curtain airbags and the handling is world class, one would think an ss would be safer with better tyres than an Omega? Banning V8's per se with the VE seems ilogical.They both can hit an imovable force pretty hard in the hands of the wrong(or should I say less trained/experienced/capable) driver. I understand that some Gov depts have no V8 policies and for other emergency services(fire, Ambulnace, SES) they are pointless because all the time you save is at intersections(in cities) not necessarily with acceleration. But chasing another car from a standing start and stopping or slowing at intersections while chasing someone(who usually doesnt stop at intersections!!) is another matter

[Tyre biter]

WA Police haven't had V8's for about 4 years.. It has nothing to do with Cash but safety for all concerned..

No, it's about now and has always been about several perceptions held by the 'white shirts' namely;

1. Can't have the lads in something better / flasher than me,
2. The fear at the whole V8 badge thing ie: I don't trust the lads with it, what will the public think, etc,
3. Cost, and
4. The misguided, poo9rly considered, uniformed and fragile belief that there is no difference between a 6 and V8 in terms of effictiveness, safety, efficiency and capability to perform a given task.

There is just a few examples. In the end they call it political will - that is of both the Police Service and the Government. I expect things are no different in the west.

Cheers, Craig

[twodads]

Sapol's only reason for getting rid of V8's again was purely and simply money. A senior exec group make these kind of decisions and found that they could save 250k p/year over the cost of v6's.
As for the v8 image, you'll find a lot Sapol gumf using the SS's for publicity.
The main reason for use of v8's in SA was with the use of mobile radar. Having someone coming at you at warp factor, slowing, doing a u-tuirn them off after them needs to be achieved in the shortest possible distance and with all the equipment carried in fleets, the v6's tend to get a bit bogged down.
we'll see how long it takes for Sapol to get the v8's back:driving:
And I stand corrected WApol also dont have the v8's, only s/c sv6 and xr6t's

[dogsballs]

so there will be no VE v8's, like there were no VZ L76 execs :idea:

[twodads]

there may be some omega v8's. on a recent trip to the gold coast, a vz exec v8 drove past with alloys and that was it. So not sure if they are running some exec v8's as well or just testing them. omega v8 will make a nice sleeper eh?

[ryno]

Money is always considered in any business decision, you would be crazy not to consider it.

But officer safety was a big priority in the decision.. Bear in mind I said we hadn't had them for years, the cars back then didn't have all the latest safety features...

[dogsballs]

on a recent trip to the gold coast, a vz exec v8 drove past with alloys and that was it.
mmm, interesting! ;)