burn outs

[rowa]

i got a vy ss ute 6sp and i cant seem to do burn out in it..

donno wat i am doin wrong can any tell me how or give some advice please.

it is pretty stock just got a 3.5 sureflo.extractors.

cheers

[Whizza]

turn off trac control :)

i know this may soud silly but have you done a burnout in a man shifted car before ?

just walk through step by step as what you do and how the car responds . then you will get a more direct soloution

[brh26]

Utes don't have traction control. Perhaps you have good quality tyres and get good grip.....:driving: j/k got to get rid of that annoying non-posting reminder lol

[michaels1v8]

turn off trac control :)

i know this may soud silly but have you done a burnout in a man shifted car before ?

just walk through step by step as what you do and how the car responds . then you will get a more direct soloution

Do you have traction control? If you do pull the fuse on the sucker and it will smoke em easy.

[RIDE:42]

no trac in ute`s
put it in 2 rev to 3-4000 rpm foot off the clutch and hang on

[rowa]

yeah i just got new nankang 20" and it is my first manual i had a auto vt gen 3 before. so yeah dont really know how to do one yet

[LSavvy]

clutch in, select gear, rev up 3-4000rpm , quickly let the clutch out and jump on the brakes (about 3/4) while you give the throttle heaps.
There are different ways people do them, right foot for brake and throttle and left for clutch to go through gears or just smash through the gears with no clutch (your gearbox wont like it).

Good luck trying your burnout on your private track of course.

As a 19 year old be careful with that ute, as it could get the better of you one day especially around corners and in the wet.

[maloo_]

Bring it round and i will show you meet you at Noble Park Macca's;)

[Whizza]

trac was a joke i just sold a vyss ute :)

well this is how i do them . it dont matter what tyres you have on there new or old .

all i do

1. clutch in
2. rev up to 3.5-4000 rpm
3. dump clutch
4. put clutch foot on brake
5. have fun .

there are heaps of ways of doing it . but if ya gonna do lots ofem invest in a decent clutch .

[StevieD]

Get an edit

In my SS ute M6 with an edit and your mods there was no problem selecting cog number 3, revving to 5000 rpm and jumping on the gas and anchors at the same time for a ripper burn out.

3rd cog burnouts chew tyres pretty quick though ;)

[rowa]

yeah i live in wa so bit far ay and yeah my mate has a big pad out the back to try on so need public roads all safe

[michaels1v8]

Traction was an option on SS utes wasnt it?

I love how so many people are up to help when it comes to burn outs:driving:

[Dane005]

yeah i just got new nankang 20" and it is my first manual i had a auto vt gen 3 before. so yeah dont really know how to do one yet

do you really want to be chewing through big new tyres doing burnouts?

[rowa]

dont care my mate works in a tyre place get em hell cheap

[wrexed03]

Nah its torque management kicking in. Get it tuned should be able to do skids easily afterwards..

Regards

[Jake@GM Motorsport]

JUST GIVE IT SH%T:thumbsup:

[all4ford]

JUST GIVE IT SH%T:thumbsup:
Thats it, drive it like you stole it!! It will LOVE it!

[NZSHAKER]

I even found in my LS1 (Auto) that sometimes it didnt like it, but since the Edit :)

Keep trying as im no expert but dont they say pratice makes ya better, if all else fails :nos: may be ur friend

[STATIE]

i got a vy ss ute 6sp and i cant seem to do burn out in it..

donno wat i am doin wrong can any tell me how or give some advice please.

it is pretty stock just got a 3.5 sureflo.extractors.

cheers

Go grab a Big Mac from Noble Park Macca's on a Friday night - there's a few fella's down there that will give you a couple of tips. :burnout: :burnout:

[rowa]

and where is this place

[VU_SS_UTE]

In all honesty if you dont know how to do a burnout, probably give them a miss, its only going to end in tears!!

[chillicatqld]

crawl before you can walk mate.... careful in that ute - it will bite you in the ass one day if you clown round too much!
Watch the wet.

[mido2k]

No one has asked, so i will....

Is this needing to know how to do burnouts to be a show pony, or is it so u can warm ur tyres up at the track??

[ace078]

T/C was NEVER an option on utes. VZ Maloo is the ONLY ute with T/C.

Sounds like abuse mode is still on, you need an edit to turn it off.

Does it feel like as soon as you touch the brake 4 spark plugs shut off????

[zorro]

^^^ good question. is this abuse mode mythical or reality? in the ls1s i've been in (the ones that copped a hiding) never had this come up.

In honesty if you need an edit to do a burnout in a ute there has to be something wrong with either car or driver. If my mates 2 cylinder subaru sherpa can make smoke anything can.

give yourself a few thousand rpms drop the clutch, hold brake and feather accelerator. (YOU DONT NEED TO BOUNCE OF THE REV LIMITER)

if that doesn't work go buy some cheap oil

[VU_SS_UTE]

if that doesn't work go buy some cheap oil

HAHA theres always the "liquid horsepower" option, but LS1s shouldnt need that

[ace078]

Very real, only came in vy ish. I first noticed it when VY started arriving from holden and we were mucking around in a holding yard, was left foot braking while moving about 20 ss cop cars around and almost straight away noticed that as soon as you put pressure on the brake while applying accelerator it would start missing realy badly, so i tried harder and absolutly NO CHANCE of doing a burn out.

A tuner can turn this off as PART of an edit.

[fiddynut]

mate if all other ways fail, pull up on the burnout pad turn the wheel had down right rev it up side step the clutch ( or dump it) once the car starts to spin around lighty press the brakes to stop it spining (the car) then keep the revs up. You should end up with some nice steel tyres!!!:burnout:

[vxssgurl]

I guess someone has to ask, so here goes:

Why, at 19, are you so desperate to ruin your tyres, potentially do panel damge, and pi$$ off one whole hell of a lot of other people, for the sake of "looking tough"?

So what you get tyres cheap... to me, that just reflects your true level of immaturity that you have no regard for money OR the car you drive... and shows you are the beginnings of the sort of driver who gives the rest of the LS1 drivers a bad name.

Don't happen to live in Noble Park by any chance?

[SS Enforcer]

Matey if you have to get on here and ask how to do a burnout , you probably shouldn't be doing one just yet.

I noticed you didn't ask what can go wrong when I am doing a burnout, like getting your brake foot tangled with your accelerator pedal cos your not used to left foot braking. The more you try to stop it the harder it revs.

You have a very quick and powerful car there that can get out of shape and kill you or others quickly.

cheers

[zorro]

yeah i live in wa so bit far ay and yeah my mate has a big pad out the back to try on so need public roads all safe

at the moment he is only a danger to himself and his mates watching him. good thing he has some sense at 19 not to do it on public roads.

i'd say learn to drive the manual before attempting to wow your mates, IMO though a stock ute with 20's isn't going to be a drift weapon around corners and going by mine with 19s is very well behaved in the wet/dry unless provoked.

have fun with your car champ, just remember abuse breaks parts. I hope your mate can help you out there aswell.

[Mr Moosh]

I guess someone has to ask, so here goes:

Why, at 19, are you so desperate to ruin your tyres, potentially do panel damge, and pi$$ off one whole hell of a lot of other people, for the sake of "looking tough"?

So what you get tyres cheap... to me, that just reflects your true level of immaturity that you have no regard for money OR the car you drive... and shows you are the beginnings of the sort of driver who gives the rest of the LS1 drivers a bad name.

Don't happen to live in Noble Park by any chance?

Just cos you can't do one :p

His doing it in a controlled conditon, and if he is happy to chew his tyres away he should go for it. I personally prefer going sideways in a paddock :driving:

[vxssgurl]

Just cos you can't do one :p



:hmmm:

If you say so.

[VU_SS_UTE]

Very real, only came in vy ish. I first noticed it when VY started arriving from holden and we were mucking around in a holding yard, was left foot braking while moving about 20 ss cop cars around and almost straight away noticed that as soon as you put pressure on the brake while applying accelerator it would start missing realy badly, so i tried harder and absolutly NO CHANCE of doing a burn out.

A tuner can turn this off as PART of an edit.

Everyone seems to have missed the fact that this guy owns a MANual not a granny tranny.

[Wingnut]

Nothing wrong with burnouts in a paddock, dirt is less abrasive on the tyres than bitumen. Only drawback is that the car will be covered in shit (maybe literally) depending on the type of paddock used and the weather at the time.

[ace078]

Everyone seems to have missed the fact that this guy owns a MANual not a granny tranny.


I tried the manual as well, its the computer, not the transmition. Did you miss that bit??

[ssgirl2]

Everyone seems to have missed the fact that this guy owns a MANual not a granny tranny.


I don't think everyone did, unless you can...
quote-"side step the clutch ( or dump it)" or
quote-"give yourself a few thousand rpms drop the clutch",
in an automatic.

SS :)

[lowr8]

clutch in........ rev to limiter...... drop clutch............ smoke happens:yahoo:

[VU_SS_UTE]

I tried the manual as well, its the computer, not the transmition. Did you miss that bit??

Clearly I did indeed!

[ace078]

Clearly I did indeed!

Thats OK mate I just noticed you are from Hobart;)

Is the Domain still the place for a good burnout??

Do you run it over grasstree hill?

[RED R8]

Burnouts are fun mate but can turn ugly very quickly don't be too keep to wreck your car.A LS1 manual should do decent skids unless abuse mode is stopping you but remmember always you run a high risk of getting it wrong and hurting yourself/your car/and other people so be very careful LS1's can bite you.

Now if you still realy wan't to do one use my easy step programme.


1/Pull up on the left side of a outback deserted road with steering on full lock right.

2-push down clutch all the way with left foot and only the side of your big toe holding it down.

3/push accelerator hard into underlay till motor goes RUP BUP BUP BUP.

4/flick big toe off clutch and hang on.:yahoo:

NB:once car has gone say 180 degrees slam second no clutch the hang on even tighter.

NB:This technique is very brake freindly as none are needed.;)

[ace078]

Burnouts are fun mate but can turn ugly very quickly don't be too keep to wreck your car.A LS1 manual should do decent skids unless abuse mode is stopping you but remmember always you run a high risk of getting it wrong and hurting yourself/your car/and other people so be very careful LS1's can bite you.

Now if you still realy wan't to do one use my easy step programme.


1/Pull up on the left side of a outback deserted road with steering on full lock right.

2-push down clutch all the way with left foot and only the side of your big toe holding it down.

3/push accelerator hard into underlay till motor goes RUP BUP BUP BUP.

4/flick big toe off clutch and hang on.:yahoo:

NB:once car has gone say 180 degrees slam second no clutch the hang on even tighter.

NB:This technique is very brake freindly as none are needed.;)


Umm, that would be a doughnut!!

Can you realy get it into 2nd with no clutch??

[RED R8]

Umm, that would be a doughnut!!

Can you realy get it into 2nd with no clutch??

I could if I was driving you car :idea:

[ace078]

I'd like to see that!!!! Worked in my old kingo no probs, drove the thing for two months with no clutch.

Yes, I was VERY poor back then.

[v8e30]

If i could do it in my 20 year old eco model bmw, i'm sure you shouldnt have a problem doing it in a v8 ute. I got it on my first try, wasnt hard.

Hold clutch down with left foot, put the tip of your right foot on the brake pedal, and your heel on the throttle (classic heel and toe style) -> bring the revs up, holding both the brake and the throttle down -> let clutch go :D -> start circle work if you want, using the brake to adjust how much you want the front of the car to stay where it is :yahoo:

(btw, i've never really done any of this, not for more than a few seconds ;))

[ace078]

If i could do it in my 20 year old eco model bmw, i'm sure you shouldnt have a problem doing it in a v8 ute. I got it on my first try, wasnt hard.

Hold clutch down with left foot, put the tip of your right foot on the brake pedal, and your heel on the throttle (classic heel and toe style) -> bring the revs up, holding both the brake and the throttle down -> let clutch go :D -> start circle work if you want, using the brake to adjust how much you want the front of the car to stay where it is :yahoo:

(btw, i've never really done any of this, not for more than a few seconds ;))


20 year old BMW's dont have abuse mode in there PCM. This guy has a V8 man ute, it is not the way he is doing it, its the car not letting him

[brentonsav]

ive been out on chapel st (drinking, not driving) and seen guys in v6 vt's etc with massive exhausts that cant do burnouts after trying numerous times because of abuse mode. its the funniest thing in the world (almost).

[zorro]

If i could do it in my 20 year old eco model bmw, i'm sure you shouldnt have a problem doing it in a v8 ute. I got it on my first try, wasnt hard.

Hold clutch down with left foot, put the tip of your right foot on the brake pedal, and your heel on the throttle (classic heel and toe style) -> bring the revs up, holding both the brake and the throttle down -> let clutch go :D -> start circle work if you want, using the brake to adjust how much you want the front of the car to stay where it is :yahoo:

(btw, i've never really done any of this, not for more than a few seconds ;))


e21s & e30s do good circles, nice and tight (provided you can find an lsd for them).

[v8e30]

e21s & e30s do good circles, nice and tight (provided you can find an lsd for them).

3 e30's, 2 lsd's ;) It'll do even better circles when it weighs <1100kg and has 350hp+ under the bonnet.


20 year old BMW's dont have abuse mode in there PCM. This guy has a V8 man ute, it is not the way he is doing it, its the car not letting him

Oh really, lucky i'm building my own ecu for my ls1 swap then :p

[VU_SS_UTE]

Thats OK mate I just noticed you are from Hobart;)

Is the Domain still the place for a good burnout??

Do you run it over grasstree hill?

Yep the domain still cops a flogging! Also theres another road down near the Airport, as well as up the mountain (not that I condone those sort of things of course)

I have a bit of a go over grasstree, I live about 2 mins from the town end actually, but i usually take the bike over there its a bit more fun than the ute!

Also im guessing "abuse mode" started in the VY's...? Cause (cough cough) the VUs dont seem to have any trouble lighting them up.


I don't think everyone did, unless you can...
quote-"side step the clutch ( or dump it)" or
quote-"give yourself a few thousand rpms drop the clutch",
in an automatic.

SS :)

Probably should have said most people then lol

[Dane VN V8]

Hey you can have my automatic that can do burnouts easy and I will have your manual?

Dane

[ace078]

Yep the domain still cops a flogging! Also theres another road down near the Airport, as well as up the mountain (not that I condone those sort of things of course)

I have a bit of a go over grasstree, I live about 2 mins from the town end actually, but i usually take the bike over there its a bit more fun than the ute!

Also im guessing "abuse mode" started in the VY's...? Cause (cough cough) the VUs dont seem to have any trouble lighting them up.



Probably should have said most people then lol

The road allong the beach strip at the end of the runway?

I got up the top of the mountin one night with 2 other cars, only to find that 10 meters past the top gate was frozzen solid, funny as, figure 8's are a pice of piss on the ice!!!!!!!!!

[Souljah]

To the bloke who started this thread:

Have you done any skids yet?

[rowa]

yeah heaps in my old vt gen 3 auto but i just got my first manual i only done like little drifty type ones and that.

i can start in the dirt and then do a stand still but for some reason just not on the road in this but i will try some of these ways on the weekend

[duke5700]

Warning - burnouts will break stuff - ie proportionally to how good the burnout is. Better burnout better chance of breaking something. :headbang:

But if you have to learn how to do it start in a paddock and go nuts then progress you way to the tar.

Step 1. Warm the car up to operating tempreature.
Step 2. Find suitable piece of tarmac(read private :yup: )
Step 3. Put it in 1st gear
Step 4. Dial in 5000rpm
Step 5. Step off the clutch
Step 6. Apply left foot to brake quickly
Step 7. Smile your being a bogan:burnout: :burnout: (hand out window is optional at this point)

For video reference/learning material to this art of boganism see here ...

http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h21/duke5700/?action=view&current=MOV00047MPG.flv

Note: This is my driveway before i get :flame:

[Gareth@Willall]

Nothing more Aussie than a good burnout :deal:


Warning - burnouts will break stuff - ie proportionally to how good the burnout is. Better burnout better chance of breaking something. :headbang:

But if you have to learn how to do it start in a paddock and go nuts then progress you way to the tar.

Step 1. Warm the car up to operating tempreature.
Step 2. Find suitable piece of tarmac(read private :yup: )
Step 3. Put it in 1st gear
Step 4. Dial in 5000rpm
Step 5. Step off the clutch
Step 6. Apply left foot to brake quickly
Step 7. Smile your being a bogan:burnout: :burnout: (hand out window is optional at this point)

For video reference/learning material to this art of boganism see here ...

http://s60.photobucket.com/albums/h21/duke5700/?action=view&current=MOV00047MPG.flv

Note: This is my driveway before i get :flame:

[duke5700]

damn straight!

[zorro]

Nothing more Aussie than a good burnout :deal:

skids are for all occasions, birthdays, weddings, births, anniversarys etc etc. provided done in the right area.

rowa: are you dialling in enough rpms?? My other thought is your clutch might be on its way out?

[Gareth@Willall]

skids are for all occasions, birthdays, weddings, births, anniversarys etc etc. provided done in the right area.


Totally agree. Im not one for doing them in suburbia.... Thats why god made 'private property.... Industial zones' :hide:

[duke5700]

Totally agree. Im not one for doing them in suburbia.... Thats why god made 'private property.... Industial zones' :hide:

:lmao: ...........

[zorro]

and where is your industrial privately owned zone? share we are all friends

v8e30, off topic. there is a guy on a bmw forum i'm on who has a e21 with a lexus 4 cam in it, also one with a 350 in it. good luck with the ls1, sounds good.

[v8e30]

v8e30, off topic. there is a guy on a bmw forum i'm on who has a e21 with a lexus 4 cam in it, also one with a 350 in it. good luck with the ls1, sounds good.

Yah i know the 1uz powered e21. I have a 1uz sitting in the shed that i was going to put in there, i'd much much much rather a ls1 though :)

[shrapss]

6 grand, dump, brake :P

[michaels1v8]

Gee this thread is still going?

WHoa the ls1 community is always happy to help!


Rowa I think you should be allright not dude.

Let us know how the skids went

[v8e30]

Give me the keys to the ute, i'll be happy to try if you want :P

[bruce350]

be careful of clutch slippage....the stock clutch is crap:cussing: i nearly burnt mine out in one attempt....

[Nutter]

Whats a burnout?

[shep]

Whats a burnout?

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[vuss383]

Whats a burnout?


You maust have been driving that XB for a while then i guess :hide: !! We all know the FORDS have nothing !!

[Nutter]

You maust have been driving that XB for a while then i guess :hide: !! We all know the FORDS have nothing !!




Now thats just nasty, my coupe lays it down a fair bit better than my chubby hahaha


:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


ssshhhhhhhhh.......I dont think everyone knows my love for the smoke :driving:

[SS Enforcer]

A bloke I know did a big burnout outside his workplace this morning in a blue VE SS. Seems it was a 2nd gear job and turned into a half tracker :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: .


A few workmates were quiite pleased and I am told it was due to a workmate trying his hardest to get his VZ SSV A4 to smoke em up. The VE just showed em how it was done :kneel:



cheers

[Lloyd1986]

If you cant do a burnout in a manual... Or at least figure it out yourself, then should you really be doing burnouts at all? Or driving on the road for that matter? I can do a burnout in my mums 1.3 liter laser, it just aint that hard!

[SS Enforcer]

If you cant do a burnout in a manual... Or at least figure it out yourself, then should you really be doing burnouts at all? Or driving on the road for that matter? I can do a burnout in my mums 1.3 liter laser, it just aint that hard!

Exactly what I think mate I could do em in a 1966 ford cortina 1.5, a 1.3 ford escort but the best smokies I got back then were performed in my 67 HR with a red motor and 3 on the tree. I even managed to get a beetle to make smoke at the brickies about 27 years ago :thumbsup:

[Dane VN V8]

A bloke I know did a big burnout outside his workplace this morning in a blue VE SS. Seems it was a 2nd gear job and turned into a half tracker :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: .


A few workmates were quiite pleased and I am told it was due to a workmate trying his hardest to get his VZ SSV A4 to smoke em up. The VE just showed em how it was done :kneel:



cheers

:stick: Well tell your workmate in the VZ SSV to get a tune or something as that is just plain pathetic. My VX SS just smokes them up so easy, shift in third/2nd/1st whatever you want, slam both feet on brake and accerlation to get the back wheels spinning. Left foot off brake car goes sliding out unleasing shit loads of smoke. Want more smoke slam the left foot onto the brake again to spin em even more but I have not need to do that yet. Tell the owner of the VZ to wake up to himself. :burnout:

Dane

[Nutter]

:stick: Well tell your workmate in the VZ SSV to get a tune or something as that is just plain pathetic. My VX SS just smokes them up so easy, shift in third/2nd/1st whatever you want, slam both feet on brake and accerlation to get the back wheels spinning. Left foot off brake car goes sliding out unleasing shit loads of smoke. Want more smoke slam the left foot onto the brake again to spin em even more but I have not need to do that yet. Tell the owner of the VZ to wake up to himself. :burnout:

Dane



VZ have abuse mode, you can toast the ass out of it or do dougies but no brakes can be used.

[rowa]

Exactly what I think mate I could do em in a 1966 ford cortina 1.5, a 1.3 ford escort but the best smokies I got back then were performed in my 67 HR with a red motor and 3 on the tree. I even managed to get a beetle to make smoke at the brickies about 27 years ago :thumbsup:

yeah i can do burn outs in the ma's 95 berina it is just the manual for some reason i cant get a good one going.

i have only done like little ones in the ute and then it stalls. donno wat i am doin wrong ay.

[L30N]

Practice makes perfect! :lol: :driving: :burnout:

[Dane VN V8]

VZ have abuse mode, you can toast the ass out of it or do dougies but no brakes can be used.


Ahh well I understand, get a tune and abuse mode off :driving: .


Dane.

[Nutter]

Practice makes perfect! :lol: :driving: :burnout:



I always feel I could use a bit more practice.

[shep]

I always feel I could use a bit more practice.

All the Tyre Company's agree...:idea:

[`redoctober]

All the Tyre Company's agree...:idea:
Nankang will be around for another 30 odd years thanks to Nutter. ;)

[CalaisRider]

no trac in ute`s
put it in 2 rev to 3-4000 rpm foot off the clutch and hang on

Jamo last weekend I was quite impressed how ur car can lay rubber almost on tap (even in 3rd gear if I recall right). Your ride has definately got the goods in this department in straight line. "way" better than I can do in the A6, but as we both know twisties is my frote and I am happy with that, to each their own and thats how it should be LOL...:wave:

When are we doin the Camp Hill pub get together as you suggested?? There are a few good blokes around our area:thumbsup:

Pete

[iamhappy46]

My VY SS ute would not smoke up until I got the ECU flashed. I originally thought it was the 19" tyres but since the ECU tune, the tyre life expectancy has decreased drastically.

I know a mate with a manual VY SS ute has to have the front wheels rolling a little to do burnouts. He gets the car rolling in 1st gear, grabs second, dials up 4500rpm before sliding his foot sideways off the clutch = instant smoke show.

[LSavvy]

i have only done like little ones in the ute and then it stalls. donno wat i am doin wrong ay.


Try backing off the brakes abit and re apply.
Just keep trying and you will get the hang of it.
Maybe get one of your mates to film it and put it up here and we can see whats going on.;)

[VY_SS_*%]

yea wat he said

maybe if it stalls... how is ur clutch ?? maybe slipping just a guess

[rowa]

ok yeah maybe the clutch ay.

so wat sort of clutch would i be lookin at gettin. and wat price are they at.

cheers boys when i get it going i will put vid up

[Dane VN V8]

ok yeah maybe the clutch ay.

so wat sort of clutch would i be lookin at gettin. and wat price are they at.

cheers boys when i get it going i will put vid up

:search: plenty of information about clutches, so far the best clutch out is a TEX Clutch which sell for around $2000. Like I said :search: and type in Tex Clutch

Dane,