VE SAT NAV? When?

[rmt]

Does anybody know when VE Sat Nav is going to be available?

I am being told in Brisbane, this week, by multiple dealers that SAT NAV is still not available. ( full colour screen version).

I have seen one ve ssv with the cheaper turn signal sat nav on the dash but nothing else.

I am wanting to order an R8 Clubsport, but i want sar nav fitted.

One dealer has said that Holden/HSV is still having problems with it but that they have been informed it might by end of FEB.

OR, Is this just another load of crapola to get me to buy a car in their stock.
I know you can get it fitted later, but I would rather get it fitted pre delivery.

Can anybody enlighten me? :confused:

[Runner]

Does anybody know when VE Sat Nav is going to be available?

I am being told in Brisbane, this week, by multiple dealers that SAT NAV is still not available. ( full colour screen version).

I have seen one ve ssv with the cheaper turn signal sat nav on the dash but nothing else.

I am wanting to order an R8 Clubsport, but i want sar nav fitted.

One dealer has said that Holden/HSV is still having problems with it but that they have been informed it might by end of FEB.

OR, Is this just another load of crapola to get me to buy a car in their stock.
I know you can get it fitted later, but I would rather get it fitted pre delivery.

Can anybody enlighten me? :confused:


I have my car booked in to have the sat nav fitted at the dealer on Monday. I did make a bit if a fuss about it so this may be why I have been prioritised (if in fact I have been). Since my screen is colour I assume my sat nav is also.

The dealer did say that cars coming off the line now have the sat nav fitted.

[SCOTTR8]

colour nav avail now, but huge backlog, i know their gm lam 3 tech guru

[BlownVR]

I was at a Perth dealer about 2 weeks ago when their sat nav demo pack arrived. I think they were planning on fitting it and trying it out asap. Had a quick look through the manual but really need to see it in operation to know if I want one.

[korrupt]

Would that mean Holden Assist is finally available too?

[Janus]

The last Calais V that was delivered to me on December 22 was fitted with the satnav and I was told that this was one of the first off the production line but as they were literally just about to shut down till mid January that they would start fitting them in a large scale when they came back.

Such a pity the idiots didn't build my car correctly so now I have again otherwise I would be happy to tell you all what it is like but I have only seen it boot up as I was testing to make sure it worked.

[milkojnr]

I got a call this week.

My Sat Nav is also being installed on Monday. I have had my SS-V since November. I ordered the Sat Nav at the same time.

i am getting the full map version too.

i will let you know how it goes.

I was very happy when I heard the news as I use the street map at least 2 times a day for my job.

[rmt]

Thanks for the info so far people.

Looks like the ball might be rolling on sat nav.

I shouldn't be suprised, but I still am, that you can want to spend good money on a new car and you actully have to work hard to just get reliable info from sales people.

Thanks again

[CrashTestDummy]

Now that sat nav is finally here, does anyone know the price of getting this fitted? Other threads have speculated anywhere from $1900 - $3000+ for sat nav with full colour maps.

[milkojnr]

I was told the RRP for the full map version was $1995 plus install and the cut down version was $1295 plus install.

I got mine for $1900 installed. I got a really good deal on my car so I was happy with that price.

I could of shopped around more but the deal I got for the car and that fact I picked the car up 24 hours after I ordered it didn't make me want to shop around just for the sat nav.

[planetdavo]

I shouldn't be suprised, but I still am, that you can want to spend good money on a new car and you actully have to work hard to just get reliable info from sales people.

This product has been far more of a pain for everyone in the dealerships than you obviously believe it really is....
We all work on the information we are given, and that information kept changing.

[Alex(AUS)]

colour nav avail now, but huge backlog, i know their gm lam 3 tech guru

Can someone quote the GM part number/s for the full colour Sat Nav kit please??? What parts are involved???

Thanks,

Alex

[Janus]

Well I will be picking up my finally completed in the specification I ordered car on Monday (could have got it today but didn't have the time) so shall let you all know.

[milkojnr]

Well it looks like Monday is the day for some of us to get our Sat Nav systems.

Let's hope it works for everyone.

If none of us have reported back by Wednesday can you ring holden for us as you will know it didn't work and we are all lost somewhere and can't get home.

[DJSean]

I have ordered mine without the SatNav and will wait until the backlog dies down a bit. No rush for me.... Melways will get me through until then :)

[AussieTone]

I have the SS so am I limited to the 'not full mapping' version. If that is the case would an after market model provide more features at a cheaper cost.

[blackduck]

same as most of the above. SATNAV arrived at the dealer last Monday, and it will be fitted this Wed. Price TBA but was promised at the factory fitting price, which I think was $2000. Wil confirm. Sounds like it should just 'plug in' and crank it up.

As soon as it is fitted, it's off to Syd for an overnighter.

[VYSSBlack]

same as most of the above. SATNAV arrived at the dealer last Monday, and it will be fitted this Wed. Price TBA but was promised at the factory fitting price, which I think was $2000. Wil confirm. Sounds like it should just 'plug in' and crank it up.

As soon as it is fitted, it's off to Syd for an overnighter.

I was told a few weeks ago that factory price was $2000 and if I wanted it fitted now it would be $3000 :eek:

[blackduck]

I was told a few weeks ago that factory price was $2000 and if I wanted it fitted now it would be $3000 :eek:

SATNAV was ordered with the car for delivery in DEC, as per Holdens website, brochures etc claiming that SATNAV WOULD be avail LATE 2006. When Holden couldn't deliver nav with the vehicle, I cancelled the nav.:cussing:

Dealer then managed to get an assurance from Holden that the nav would be delivered and fitted by dealer at factory price in Jan/Feb. :deal:

Soooooo, we'll what happens on Wed.

[milkojnr]

So today is the day we start to see these Sat Nav's installed.

We should all report back to let everyone know how good they are.

[HSVQUE]

has anyone looked at getting the sat nav hooked up aftermarket?

[milkojnr]

Well I got the Sat Nav today.

The DVD unit takes up half the glove box top section.

It is a 2D map not a 3D map.

You have a new button on your wheel it replaces the mute button with a nav button.

The full map has the display on the main screen and on the screen in the middle of your dash.

Any questions please ask? I am more happy to answer them.

[BLACK expreSS-V]

Thanks for the update on the GPS. Much appreciated.

A few questions:

1. Does it have Points of Interest (POI)?
2. I assume it has the latest maps with the new Sydney tunnels and motorways?
3. Speed cameras and red light cameras as POI?
4. Can you set warnings so that an alarm goes off 20 metres before a speed camera?
5. Does it take long to come alive when you first power it on?

[blackduck]

Well I got the Sat Nav today.

The DVD unit takes up half the glove box top section.

It is a 2D map not a 3D map.

You have a new button on your wheel it replaces the mute button with a nav button.

The full map has the display on the main screen and on the screen in the middle of your dash.

Any questions please ask? I am more happy to answer them.

So what's the purpose of the NAV button on the current screen?
How do you now mute the radio?

[milkojnr]

Thanks for the update on the GPS. Much appreciated.

A few questions:

1. Does it have Points of Interest (POI)?
2. I assume it has the latest maps with the new Sydney tunnels and motorways?
3. Speed cameras and red light cameras as POI?
4. Can you set warnings so that an alarm goes off 20 metres before a speed camera?
5. Does it take long to come alive when you first power it on?

Here you go, any more?

Answers:
1)Yes it does. I looked up things like Seawold and found it.
It shows:
ATM
Banks
Petrol Stations
Museum
Are Centres
Cinema
Court Houses
Emergency Services
Hospitals
Post Offices
Sport facilties
Casinos
Zoo

And lots of other stuff. I looked up Petrol Stations and it gave me a list of different options and how far away etc.

2)Sorry I am in Brisbane. If you give me a address to look for I will check it out for you.

3) I can't select to turn that option on or off. I have not been near either a speed camera or red light camera today to check. Will report back on that tomorrow.

4)As mentioned in the questions above this is not a option I can find yet.

5)No it is really quick. About 5 to 10 secs. It can say in a stand by mode too so it can stay locked on while the car is off. it is default set for 30 mins.

[Janus]

Thanks for the update on the GPS. Much appreciated.

A few questions:

1. Does it have Points of Interest (POI)?
2. I assume it has the latest maps with the new Sydney tunnels and motorways?
3. Speed cameras and red light cameras as POI?
4. Can you set warnings so that an alarm goes off 20 metres before a speed camera?
5. Does it take long to come alive when you first power it on?

I too have my sat nav installed and can address a couple of your questions.

1. Yes, you can turn on POI's ranging from police stations, fire stations, shopping centers, hospitals, petrol stations, car dealerships (for many different brands) and many more. From my limited driving around today it seems that they are generally in the right place, but I did go for a drive in the Adelaide hills and it showed a shopping center when I know there is nothing at all there. Either that or it is showing me that there is a shopping trolley there.

2. Don't live in Sydney so have no idea.

3. I don't believe it shows cameras, they aren't listed on the POI's you can turn on and they are not displayed as default. I would have liked this feature as well.

4. Addressed above.

5. It doesn't take that long to activate when you turn the car on. It shows the Holden logo splash screen for about 3 seconds, then a screen that says navigation for about 5 and then loads into the map. I have a money of it and will see if I can post it on YouTube or something.

Hope this helps.

[milkojnr]

So what's the purpose of the NAV button on the current screen?
How do you now mute the radio?

On the steel wheel there is two knobs or wheels you move up and down and you can press the left hand side one as a enter button.

The right hand side wheel on the stearing wheel that moved the volume up and down is a button like the left hand side enter button.

Therefore you just press the volume wheel knob on the right hand side and it mutes.

[Alex(AUS)]

Did it take long to install? Do you know what was involved? Do you by any chance have the part number of the Sat Nav kit?

Pictures of the install / unit operation would be fantastic ...

Thank you for your help,

Alex

[Janus]

I just picked up my car today (finally after 6 months and 3 wrong cars) and mine was installed in the factory.

I am in the process of uploading a movie of it to YouTube.

I have tried to upload some pics, but ImageShack isn't displaying them.

Short VE sat nav demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PisfNUxEfwA)

Not sure if you can embed YouTube videos into this site like you can on some forums, I can't find a button for it so I am thinking you can't.

[korrupt]

Thanks for the video, looks pretty good.

Do you have to press OK on the "Please observe Road Traffic Regulations" screen everytime?

[BLACK expreSS-V]

Thank you Janus and milkojnr for the answers.

Janus - well done on the video and congratulations on finally getting that car.

John.

[milkojnr]

Do you have to press OK on the "Please observe Road Traffic Regulations" screen everytime? Yes you do.

I was told it took 4 hours to install the gear.

[Janus]

Thanks BLACK expreSS-V, it is really nice to have it after such a wait. I must say I am really enjoying it. Am looking forward to maybe coming to a cruise in Adelaide sometime. Sadly my car was not delivered in time for the one that was just on.

It is big, black and sexy and I can't wait for the 3000km service when I will get window tinting done. I planned to have it added to the order but was suddenly surprised when the car was ready 2 weeks early.

Just a question to those others with the sat nav installed. What does the "nav" button on the steering wheel do. I though it says in the manual that you push it to enter the nav screen from the "band" screen etc (which would make sense to me), but when I push mine nothing happens. The phone button above works perfectly fine and answers an incoming call or activates my voice dialing on my PDA but the "nav" button does nothing. Is this the same for everyone else or has mine just not been installed correctly?

[milkojnr]

What does the "nav" button on the steering wheel do. I though it says in the manual that you push it to enter the nav screen from the "band" screen etc (which would make sense to me), but when I push mine nothing happens.

When I press mine it does not do anything to the full map option on the stereo. But it brings up the Nat option on the small screen on the dash.

Have you turned on the option so it comes up on your dash screen.

If you go into the custom options you can turn this display option on and off.

Well after driving around today with the Sat Nav here are a couple of things I have noticed:

Some of the locations of the local banks, post offices, petrol stations, etc are wrong or even missing. There a couple major petrol stations that have been there for over 8 years still missing.

If you follow the position your car is on the screen it is about 3 seconds behind your real position. I did a re calabration and it didn't change that.

Red light camera and speed cameras are not displayed. If fact no traffic lights are displayed at all.

It is useing the Whereis maps on the DVD.

Using the direction part is great it works really well.

i am happy with it and would recommend it if anybody is looking into the option.

I just think it could do with a new and better map disc. If you don't care where the local stuff like food shops it works great.

[Runner]

Picked up my car today (I had the back windscreen replaced due to a pre delivery crack) and I immediately had to go to a place where I have not been before. I keyed in the address but half way there the voice instructions stopped.

It may be that I toggled the audio sound button but this should not have affected the voice over. It made for a more difficult trip as I had to view the screen to make sure I took the correct turns.

When I reset my destination for home (after my meeting) the voice resumed as it should.

I have yet to read the manual or view the demo but first impressions have not been great. This may be a bit unfair as I have become accustomed to the Lexus touch screen version which is very user friendly and clear.

One thing I have noticed is that the map view does not seem to display all the street names on the actual map (like a street directory) as the Lexus version does. May be the manual will tell me how.

Anyway I will post again once I am a little better informed.

[milkojnr]

I keyed in the address but half way there the voice instructions stopped.

It may be that I toggled the audio sound button but this should not have affected the voice over. It made for a more difficult trip as I had to view the screen to make sure I took the correct turns.

When I reset my destination for home (after my meeting) the voice resumed as it should.

One thing I have noticed is that the map view does not seem to display all the street names on the actual map (like a street directory) as the Lexus version does. May be the manual will tell me how.

Anyway I will post again once I am a little better informed.

There is a button on the menu you could of pressed that muted the voice.

It doesn't display the street names on the map. It does display the name of your current street all the time. If you about to turn into another street it names it up the top of the map too.

My main complaint is that is seems to be about 3 to 4 seconds behind my position. So sometimes I am coming up to a street before it tells me to turn.

Another thing when I am on a main road that bends around to the left or right the voice tells me to turn at the next left or right.

I don't think they have got it ready yet.

[Runner]

I don't think i was anywhere near that button for muting (I did see it when I had a look earlier).

Another thing is the default speeds used to give an e.t.a. In the Lexus version you can set estimated speeds for three types of road (local,main and highway) which can give a more accurate estimation of journey length.

I note when you try this on the internet (Whereis) at least for Sydney city and suburbs the estimated journey given time is too short for normal traffic conditions. Might be fine at 3 a.m.

Hopefully the Holden sat nav lets you alter these defaults.

[PeterS]

Red light camera and speed cameras are not displayed. If fact no traffic lights are displayed at all.

It is useing the Whereis maps on the DVD.


I use Whereis maps in another GPS application. Whereis accepts speed & red light cameras as POI data. You need to enter them (the files are generally available). Can you enter POI data into this unit via a laptop?

Cheers.

[milkojnr]

I use Whereis maps in another GPS application. Whereis accepts speed & red light cameras as POI data. You need to enter them (the files are generally available). Can you enter POI data into this unit via a laptop?

Cheers.

I think the whole system is different then the small hand held ones. It runs off a DVD. You need the DVD in there the whole time. So I take it that it is just running off the information on the DVD.

If we want a updated version we would have to get a new DVD.

[Janus]

I think the whole system is different then the small hand held ones. It runs off a DVD. You need the DVD in there the whole time. So I take it that it is just running off the information on the DVD.

If we want a updated version we would have to get a new DVD.

Yes, that is the way it works and is like that for most cars. The only car I know of that is different is the new Mercedes S Class with has it stored on a 20GB hard drive. This is designed for European driving so you can have the entire continent stored on there so you don't have to keep changing the DVD when you leave certain countries like you used to have to do.

[BadMac]

My NavMan has the maps on a SD Card. When I go to Aus I pop in the Aus SD Card. I was going to take it to England and France last year but the maps were $400+ and I was only there a week.

Maybe Holden should have chosen one of the more innovative companies as their SatNav partner.

[Janus]

Maybe Holden should have chosen one of the more innovative companies as their SatNav partner.

Something tells me they took the company that could provide them a unit that worked with the VE, was well priced and available in large numbers.

[BadMac]

Something tells me they took the company that could provide them a unit that worked with the VE, was well priced and available in large numbers.


Its likely the delays were in part due to the complexities of interfacing the SatNav with the GMLan so "worked with VE" would have been equal for most providers, your other points are probably true I don't know much about SatNav. My point was really the DVD route versus solid state.

[CrashTestDummy]

has anyone seen this?
http://www.cobracaralarms.com.au/Text/1167538125857-3293/New-Products

[EXCESSV]

has anyone seen this?
http://www.cobracaralarms.com.au/Text/1167538125857-3293/New-Products

at $2900 fitted the holden one at $2K seems cheaper.
Does it have any extra features to the OEM one?
Does it still display on the dash as well like the OEM one??

[CrashTestDummy]

at $2900 fitted the holden one at $2K seems cheaper.
Does it have any extra features to the OEM one?
Does it still display on the dash as well like the OEM one??

below is an email reply that i just received from cobra. i agree that holdens one at $2k looks like a better deal but doesn't hurt to see what else is out there..



Total Cost Fully Installed $2700.00 Inc GST.

Features;


Included in all in-car navigation systems;

Compact Navigation Computer

SD Card Drive, Variable Angle Mounting
2D or 3D Panoramic View Map Modes
Australia Wide Sensis/Whereis/UBD Map
Infra-Red Remote Control
GPS-Global Positioning System Antenna



Features;


Turn by Turn Voice Guidance
Detailed Colour Mapping
Detailed Pictograms
Selectable 4 Screen Modes
Automatic Day/Night Switching

[EXCESSV]

Does anyone know what the cost will be to upgrade the map on the standard holden one???

Also an idea to compare what the cost for the Cobra one mentioned will cost to upgrade the maps???

[BLACK expreSS-V]

Wow the Cobra one has coem down $200 already!

I was ready to get the Holden one, but was disappointed with the loss of glovebox, non 3D and lack of speed camera warnings.

The Cobra looks a lot better but is just too expensive to justify.

I think I will just get a cheap NAVMAN N40i for now and wait for the new Alpine HUB system - then connect up some AMPS, a GPS source and DVD player etc...

[Janus]

The Cobra looks a lot better but is just too expensive to justify.

Exactly what I thought. The few little extra features on the Cobra are not worth the almost $1000 extra you have to pay. Especially considering the fact that the Holden one is already more expensive then buying a 3rd party unit. I decided to pay the extra for the Holden one as I wanted a fully integrated unit, not something i have to charge etc. and stick to my windscreen, but would never pay $1000 on top of the Holden price for the Cobra.

[blackduck]

It's a ripoff! Well not quite.

Unit fitted last Wednesday, approx 4 hours to fit. Slight glitch in the fitting process as the steering wheel switches weren't included in the main package.

System is easy to use and set-up. Voice guidance is good. It can get about 50m behind, but is easily overcome as the next street name is listed on the screen. All you need is councils to actually have street names on their streets.

Leaving the Pacific HWY and heading to Syd airport was a breeze. Guided nicely to the tunnel, and didn't lose track through the tunnels. Leaving Syd, the map doesn't recognise that you now exit the freeway by verging right, voice commands would keep you in the left lane. This exit was changed over 18 months ago!!

Now the mapping sucks:cussing: Don't try to find too many places outside of the big smoke. The mapping detail is b&^^%y woefull. travelling up the Hunter Valley, there are at least six towns that don't exist, or only appear as a blackdot. No street detail at all. My NAVMAN PDA has a lot more info on it.

So, considering that map data comes from the same source, this fully intergrated and new system is not, IMO, value for money. If you want to find your around the country outside of a capitol city, spend $1500 less and get a dash mounted portable unit.

But, if you don't care about leaving the city, and you want a nice, easy to use, system that doesn't have a power lead running from your windscreen to the aux power plug, it's great.

[milkojnr]

I went down the coast from Brisbane to Gold Coast yesterday.

It was telling me to please turn right or left everytime there was just a turn in the highway.

I system is also about 50 metres behind me.

I believe we should of got a better DVD then the one we got. The information is not up to date.

Come on Holden for the price you are charging for it is not good enough.

[Liam_J]

Hi guys,

Just a quick note for anyone with a VT - VZ series, SiemensVDO are bringing out a NAV sys that integrates into the centre console just below the stereo and forward of the gear stick. Looks to integrate well, pricing was unavailable as of a couple of weeks ago, but the model is MS5400HD.

Check it out in their catalogue on their website.

Cheers.

[V-Car]

The mapping i think comes from Whereis/Sensis?
http://poweredby.whereis.com/In-car-GPS-Navigation.html?nref=hpFeatureLinkInCar
And they are owned by Telstra i believe, so i wouldnt expect anything better as far as out of date maps.

I had Holdens satnav in my VX and the mapping on that was also way out of date, even 18 months after major road changes they still werent on the map updates which cost well over $300 each time.
http://poweredby.whereis.com//shop/Whereis-Online-Store.html

Who is supplying the satnav hardware to Holden now? Is it still VDO Dayton?
Notice or their website they say their mapping covers 97% of Australias 'population'.
But just like our mobile phone coverage, (Telstra again) that means about 20% of our land mass, so dont expect it to find its way when youre outside a major city/town! :cussing:

But yes, the factory systems are expensive compared to aftermarket portable satnavs, considering the screen is already there.
Id be curious to see how much the Alpine vehiclehub system will be if they do one for Holden.
http://www.alpine.com.au/#

Or maybe ASL will do something also.
There is a guy called FADI75 at FordForums who helps alot over there with Ford factory systems. See the ASL sub forum.

Here is ASL's own site.
http://www.asllogistics.com/index.html

[blackduck]

whereis/telstra is the mapping source. I've just been in that website, and the 'missing towns' do exist, just not on the DVD supplied by Holden????

So, why is there a missing link?????????????????????????

forgot to mention, there at least two Holden dealers who don't appear in the Holden POI section. You'd think that at least Holden would make sure that ALL Holden dealerships are listed!!!

[milkojnr]

I wonder if holden are planing up date the DVD?

And the software?

There are still major bugs in it. Do we have to wait until the next service of a up grade or will they ask us to bring it in.

[cashie]

Hi guys,

Just a quick note for anyone with a VT - VZ series, SiemensVDO are bringing out a NAV sys that integrates into the centre console just below the stereo and forward of the gear stick. Looks to integrate well, pricing was unavailable as of a couple of weeks ago, but the model is MS5400HD.

Check it out in their catalogue on their website.

Cheers.

I am keen to hear the cost of this one....

[Janus]

I wonder if holden are planing up date the DVD?

And the software?

There are still major bugs in it. Do we have to wait until the next service of a up grade or will they ask us to bring it in.

I was just thinking that. Is there some way to contact Holden with our concern and complaints about the system and the software in the hope that they will actually listen and do something about it.

[blackduck]

I was just thinking that. Is there some way to contact Holden with our concern and complaints about the system and the software in the hope that they will actually listen and do something about it.

Yep, write a letter to or ring the customer assistance manager. Phone number and address are in the handbook. This 'problem' is way above Dealership level.

[BLACK expreSS-V]

The "problem" Holden have is that they have been caught out by one of their key suppliers.

I imagine this system was signed off with a perfectly working GPS in somewhere like Germany.

Then the supplier had to simply - "Get it working with the Australian maps" which sounds easy.

I suggest this proved difficult - hence the 6 month delay since the cars were released, plus all the time pre-release!

Yes - I would complain to Holden (very loudly), but there will be no quickj fix. If there was they would have implemented it.

I would assume they will work this out before or at least with the next map update late this year. Once it is worked out, then "negotiation" on the cost of an update can happen.

At this stage I would be looking for a refund or credit for the $2000 - as it is simply not worth it. (This comment comes from someone who has been asking the dealer about the GPS every week since August last year) - but now is going to a fully working GPS solution - that "keeps up", has 3D maps, can be upgraded easily each year, has 1000's of POI (that I can tune from my PC or the NET) for $579! - see my NAVMAN N40 post.

[milkojnr]

Just thought I would report back after have the Sat Nav now for a couple of weeks.

I used it extensively last week and it worked ok.

Even though it seems to lock into the Sat System in about 10 seconds it actually takes about 5 mins to adjust to your driving speeds etc.

It is still about 20 metres out of sync but it seems to be getting better or I am getting used to the distance I have allow for.

You have to watch it as I have been told a couple of times to turn the wrong way up a one way street, turn left when you not allowed to, and do a u-turn at a set of light when you not allowed too.

Even though we are having problems with it I now think it is about 80% ready.

But then you hear about other Sat Nav's that have live traffic reports linked into it etc and you realise the system is a long way off!!!

[jeffro186]

I am still being told by my dealer here in Newcastle that they don't even have the SatNAV's in yet. Does this sound a bit dodgy to anyone else?? People here have had them in for a few weeks and my delaer is saying they haven't even installed one yet. I am waiting on the full screen option for my V8 Calais I took delivery of in the first week of December.

[Controltech]

I am still being told by my dealer here in Newcastle that they don't even have the SatNAV's in yet. Does this sound a bit dodgy to anyone else?? People here have had them in for a few weeks and my delaer is saying they haven't even installed one yet. I am waiting on the full screen option for my V8 Calais I took delivery of in the first week of December.

Go talk to Kelly Holden. They certainly know all about Sat Nav. Mine is due to be installed in 2 weeks.

[Dickie Knee]

Link to part numbers thread. --> http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=843265#post843265

[planetdavo]

Dealers received a bulletin today saying that the VE sat nav delays will be considerably improved from now on.

[blackduck]

I am still being told by my dealer here in Newcastle that they don't even have the SatNAV's in yet. Does this sound a bit dodgy to anyone else?? People here have had them in for a few weeks and my delaer is saying they haven't even installed one yet. I am waiting on the full screen option for my V8 Calais I took delivery of in the first week of December.

sounds like a load of rubbish. Mine was with the dealer in the last week of Jan, but I didn't get it fitted until the 7th Feb. This was the full screen version. One 'glitch' was that the steering wheel switch arrived as a separate package. When yours does arrive, make sure that the switch is with it.

And as per earlier replies, if you drive outside Newy, don't leave the highway. The mapping quality is c%^p

[SSV8pilot]

And as per earlier replies, if you drive outside Newy, don't leave the highway. The mapping quality is c%^p

Surely its criminal for Holden to charge nearly $3k for what seems such a sub standard product.

My SSV will make do with the $1k TomTom 910!

[planetdavo]

sounds like a load of rubbish. Mine was with the dealer in the last week of Jan, but I didn't get it fitted until the 7th Feb. This was the full screen version. One 'glitch' was that the steering wheel switch arrived as a separate package. When yours does arrive, make sure that the switch is with it.

And as per earlier replies, if you drive outside Newy, don't leave the highway. The mapping quality is c%^p
It's actually not a "load of rubbish".
We have only received two of the numerous orders placed ages ago. As I said a bit earlier, the supply situation is about to return to a "normal" supply situation.
EVERYONE in the Holden system is sick to death of the delays and the abusive customers over this issue. Products like these are planned WELL in advance for release, and sh!t hit the fan behind the scenes basically with the development and supply of the kits, causing big delays.
Just so you all know, the Captiva DVD player STILL has neither engineering approval or a supplier, yet it has a part number since launch, because they still haven't been able to make it work properly.
Remember with ALL things genuine, it has to be developed fully before release. It's far more than a case of your local stereo installer fitting a sat nav to any car, and it all being good (which quite often their installations aren't).

[Wonky]

If you have a look at the forums discussing the various PDA navigation software available you will find that most of it has various shortcomings in terms of out of date maps, non-existent towns and streets and other things that can send you off track or expect you to pull stupid manoeuvres.

I don't know where Holden's system ranks in all that having never tried to use it, or how it ranks against other similarly priced OEM car units but it seems nothing much is perfect. It's my understanding that most Australian systems use the whereis maps, which have definite flaws.

[milkojnr]

If you have a look at the forums discussing the various PDA navigation software available you will find that most of it has various shortcomings in terms of out of date maps, non-existent towns and streets and other things that can send you off track or expect you to pull stupid manoeuvres.

I don't know where Holden's system ranks in all that having never tried to use it, or how it ranks against other similarly priced OEM car units but it seems nothing much is perfect. It's my understanding that most Australian systems use the whereis maps, which have definite flaws.

Yes i can comfirm the Holden Sat Nav is using the Whereis maps. I have the case my DVD for my Sat Nav came in. The DVD is for Australia and New Zealand.

[Controltech]

Yes i can comfirm the Holden Sat Nav is using the Whereis maps. I have the case my DVD for my Sat Nav came in. The DVD is for Australia and New Zealand.

Does it say what version it is? The Whereis website states version 13 as the latest.

[CrashTestDummy]

Does it say what version it is? The Whereis website states version 13 as the latest.

I emailed Cobra regarding the differences between their system and the Holden system. According to them, Holden are using version 12 which is now 12 months old. Cobra are using version 13 in their systems.

[milkojnr]

I emailed Cobra regarding the differences between their system and the Holden system. According to them, Holden are using version 12 which is now 12 months old. Cobra are using version 13 in their systems.

Just checked the DVD.

Australia is V12
New Zealand is V1

[Runner]

Just checked the DVD.

Australia is V12
New Zealand is V1

Which means if you live in Sydney that the M7 and other new road developments associated with the Lane Cove tunnel are not on the DVD. This is really a very poor effort by Holden as I was of the understanding that V13 would be used - they have therefore given us superseded stock.

[nick307]

I picked up HSV gts in Dec and was told should be available in Feb. I just put in a TOM TOM, it was only $700 and works fine.
You can also use it out of the car.

[BLACK expreSS-V]

When you see V12 or V13 maps, most people would make the assumption that the units would have identical streets, names, routes etc, but that is NOT the case.

I have both a TOMTOM and a NAVMAN - both with the identical "latest Sensis maps" - but that is only half the battle, it is how they interpret them, what names they use and dont use, the rendering detail and quality and connectivity to the GPS receiver inside.

As an example the TOMTOM doesn't show the new "Sea Cliff" bridge between Sydney and Wollognong, but the NAVMAN does.

The TOMTOM comes alive faster from power off, but the NAVMAN is a lot more accurate and nearly perfect for "keeping up"...

From this, I suggest the genuine VE unit works perfect in Germany on German maps. Holden saw it working there, knew the Aussie maps were available and assumed it would be an easy task for the tech-heads to get it working.

Guess what - looks like companies that do it for a living like Tomtom, Navman and Garmin - are light years ahead.

I was hanging on getting the VE GPS unit, but will now wait till V14 is out, debugged and ready when I get my new VF SSV, with 310Kw, 7 spd auto and built in TV :love:

[ratty05]

I was told by a dealer there's two options, one that show just left, right etc in the dash, and another that has full instructions on the centre console screen.

[EXCESSV]

I was told by a dealer there's two options, one that show just left, right etc in the dash, and another that has full instructions on the centre console screen.

thats right the one with the full instructions is only available on the SSV, calais and calais V. turn by turn is available on all other commodores

turn by turn on dash is $1290 RRP
full map is $1990 RRP

[jeffro186]

I am still being told by my dealer here in Newcastle that they don't even have the SatNAV's in yet. Does this sound a bit dodgy to anyone else?? People here have had them in for a few weeks and my delaer is saying they haven't even installed one yet. I am waiting on the full screen option for my V8 Calais I took delivery of in the first week of December.

Thanks for the replies guys. After more chasing, and telling them that I know of people already driving around with theirs installed, the dealer is still telling me that it could be 3 - 6 weeks away.

[Controltech]

Thanks for the replies guys. After more chasing, and telling them that I know of people already driving around with theirs installed, the dealer is still telling me that it could be 3 - 6 weeks away.

Which dealer is it ?

[jeffro186]

Kelly Holden

[Runner]

I have been experiencing an intermittent fault with my sat nav and was wondering if anyone else had the same problem.

Mostly the system tracks my movements pretty closely but about 3 times in the last week the system does not follow where I am going (city driving only) and simply puts me entirely in the wrong location ( I have not set any destination in these cases). When I next start my car (after my meeting or whatever) the system locates me perfectly.

Is this a satelite problem or some other system fault? I also notice that when the system misbehaves in this fashion my climate control settings will not display at the top of the screen and i cannot access my sat nav menu.

Anyone else have a similar problem?

[milkojnr]

I have been experiencing an intermittent fault with my sat nav and was wondering if anyone else had the same problem.

Mostly the system tracks my movements pretty closely but about 3 times in the last week the system does not follow where I am going (city driving only) and simply puts me entirely in the wrong location ( I have not set any destination in these cases). When I next start my car (after my meeting or whatever) the system locates me perfectly.

Is this a satelite problem or some other system fault? I also notice that when the system misbehaves in this fashion my climate control settings will not display at the top of the screen and i cannot access my sat nav menu.

Anyone else have a similar problem?
Hi yes I know what your problem is.

You are jumping into your car turning the key and going straight away without letting the car boot up. I have had these problems in the past when I am in a hurry.

If you just wait for the car to boot up and you will be fine.

This works for me.....

[Runner]

Hi yes I know what your problem is.

You are jumping into your car turning the key and going straight away without letting the car boot up. I have had these problems in the past when I am in a hurry.

If you just wait for the car to boot up and you will be fine.

This works for me.....

Milkojnr

Thanks for the advice - I will try waiting for the satnav to fully load (I know I don't always do this) and see if that fixes the problem.

[milkojnr]

Milkojnr

Thanks for the advice - I will try waiting for the satnav to fully load (I know I don't always do this) and see if that fixes the problem.

No just wait for the chimes to finish. You know how the car goes beep beep beep etc when you turn it on. Just wait for that to finish before you do anything.

I have also found the sat nav can take a couple of minutes to work right .

[Runner]

No just wait for the chimes to finish. You know how the car goes beep beep beep etc when you turn it on. Just wait for that to finish before you do anything.

I have also found the sat nav can take a couple of minutes to work right .

I don't think I have every driven off before the chimes finished.....

[sister]

I am looking at buying a Feb 07 build VE belina.

I was looking at Sat Nav, and sunroof. But now I am concerned about the sat nav (turn by turn) as the conversations in these threads dont look encouraging.

Is someone able to set me straight? Is the turn by turn system good or are the after market ones better (I cant afford the calais).

Perhaps a better decision is to go with sunroof and DVD. Any help appreciated

[Janus]

Personally if you aren't getting a Calais or above I would suggest going for an aftermarket model.

You will get a far better produce for equal or less money. The turn by turn basically takes all the functions of the full screen and puts it in the little display between the speedo and revs. Now in my mind this is very difficult to read and change etc. It is already hard enough to do it on the full colour model (I know it is not designed for you to do whilst you drive but this is when most people do it anyway).

I think it would have been much better if Holden had gone with a touchscreen method of entering details rather then having to scroll through them with wheels etc. It is kind of like the difference between entering text on an X-Box 360 compared to a Nintendo Wii (not sure how many people will get this comparison).

I quite like the Holden full screen sat nav, but it isn't quite as good as I had hoped for the lengthy delay and the high price tag. I basically got it because I don't like non-intergrated units and would much rather have one built into the car then one stuck on my windscreen. However, you I would be lying if I didn't say that you could get a much better third party unit, with more and better features then the Holden one for less money.

[sister]

thankyou. As you can see I am new at this game and need help on the accessory decisions.

I would also appreciate your thoughts on the DVD player?

[blackduck]

I basically agree with Janus. Currently, the Holden version just isn't worth the bucks. You'll get a much better product off the shelf with better features for much less dollars. Only 'problem' with the off the shelf stuff is having the power lead running to your accessary power socket.

[forestjim]

thankyou. As you can see I am new at this game and need help on the accessory decisions.

I would also appreciate your thoughts on the DVD player?

Dvd - Rear is good for People in the back. Kids love it.

I like it because I can listen to what I want in the front. They just put their headphones and I don't hear Boo.

$1500 - Great value I think. There is a post on it somewhere just do a search.

Happy days

Marty:driving:

[Janus]

I would also appreciate your thoughts on the DVD player?

I am/was quite happy with the DVD player, but then again it is included in my car, not sure how much it is as an option in yours.

The main problem I have with it is that the receiver for the remote control is along the top of the fold down screen. This means that you can not control the player from the front seat unless you reach around behind you to push the button and the screen needs to be flipped down to do so. As I usually watch the DVD in the front when I am parked waiting it is just a bit of a pain, however in a Berlina this won't be a problem as their is no display in the front.

About the only other thing I don't like about the DVD player is that it lacks divx play back. Not a huge problem and I am probably one of the small percentage that actually care, but I would have liked to be able to watch "my stories" without having to convert them to an actual DVD. I have made sure that every DVD player in my house can do this so it would have been nice to have one in the car as well.

[Mojo]

I basically agree with Janus. Currently, the Holden version just isn't worth the bucks. You'll get a much better product off the shelf with better features for much less dollars. Only 'problem' with the off the shelf stuff is having the power lead running to your accessary power socket.

I added the Holden one to the list of extra's (circa 2k) as someone else said before on this thread it's a built in integrated unit. Had previously noted on this thread that it's not the best unit for the dollars but that was the overriding factor for me.

Looked at the aftermarker stuff but could'nt seem to find a unit that could be hardwired...definately a no go having crappy wires running to the socket - and the theft risk as well....simply couldn't be stuffed unplugging it every time I got out of the vehicle and carrying it around - and the one's that stick on the windscreen - Might as well be a neon sign saying "Nick Me"....

Surely there must be hard wired units on the market that can be mounted discretely on/in the dash somewhere ?

[BLACK expreSS-V]

I'm playing with hardwiring a NAVMAN N40i into the dash on my VE SSV.

There is a spot in front of the gear shift, that is designed for sunnies or coins etc.

Just getting a bracket / fascia made up now.

Will be hardwired so when the ignition is turned on, it comes on automatically and then turns off 1 minute after the ignition is turned off.

The NAVMAN is deadly accurate, has 3d maps, lots of POI that can also be downloaded, multi-journeys, driving stats, can be upgraded via the net, can navigate by photos inc a website of 1000's of common POI photos worldwide - all good for less than $600 fully installed!

[AussieTone]

I'm playing with hardwiring a NAVMAN N40i into the dash on my VE SSV.

There is a spot in front of the gear shift, that is designed for sunnies or coins etc.

Just getting a bracket / fascia made up now.

Will be hardwired so when the ignition is turned on, it comes on automatically and then turns off 1 minute after the ignition is turned off.

Keep us posted. Would love to see completed and in progress pics

[Mojo]

Yeah I was toying with the idea of doing something similar in the coin hole...but too damn busy/lazy...be interested to see how it turns out...

[jeffro186]

Had a call yesterday afternoon from a local VDO dealer in Newcastle, as my name was on a list he had of people asking about VE satnav. Told me that VDO's gear is now right to go, fully integrated into the car, except that it operates off a remote control rather that the steering wheel controls.
He also confirmed that it runs off a SD card, instead of DVD. $2900.00 installed. Didn't get a chance to ask about map versions or model numbers. If I get a chance today I'll call in there and see if I can't wrangle a brochure or something.

O.k., went and checked it out. Sounds like I'm gonna go with the VDO option. 2D/3D, SD Card version 13. The model number is MS5200HD. Told by the owner of the business that he could also hide the SD card "box" behind the glovebox, so not taking up any more space inside the car, but still get access, to change cards etc.
Got a quote of $2700.00 in writing from the boss.
He also showed me where he could hide an additional speaker, so the voice prompts are not always overiding the stereo. Not sure about that yet or not.

[Tony Kendal]

It's version 12. Limited POI's, no speed warnings, maps are circa 2004. Functionality, clarity etc are good, but the old data ( in a nice new cara0 is a real piss off.

Sometimes the system resets the default settings. System time and Climate control indications are only a few of the bugs you are yet to experience.

Crash test dummy is a little out of date. V13 was released by Whereis / Sensus in May 2006. The v12 maps are circa 2004 and being supplied with the $2000 option as factory fitted. V14 is now due July 07 according to GMH.

[Janus]

V13 was released by Whereis / Sensus in May 2006. The v12 maps are circa 2004 and being supplied with the $2000 option as factory fitted. V14 is now due July 07 according to GMH.

Why would you supply the unit with the old data? Why not just give people good product for the expensive price. Don't suppose Holden will give us all a free upgrade to the new version, in fact I am sure they will charge us a fare whack to upgrade.

And how about they drop New Zealand from the DVD they supply you with, as we are hardly all driving are cars over there, and instead give us decent cover in areas outside the metro areas.

I think we should all write to them saying that the product isn't good enough for the price and that they should at least give us up to date maps for the price.

[Runner]

Outdated maps are a real pain. This is especially the case with the M7 and Lane Cove Tunnel if you live in Sydney. I wonder if you can purchase a new DVD from Sensis whenever it is available (at the end of the year?) and simply substitute it for the existing DVD or does the dealer need to be invoved?

[Janus]

I wonder if you can purchase a new DVD from Sensis whenever it is available (at the end of the year?) and simply substitute it for the existing DVD or does the dealer need to be invoved?

I pretty much guarantee that Holden will make it prepriority and charge a high price for the disks. It is their way of protecting their investment in the technology. They don't want their customers going elsewhere for the disk and I'm sure they will lock it to each individual unit so you can't just burn your own copy for all your friends (is this way with most DVD based units).

[Runner]

I pretty much guarantee that Holden will make it prepriority and charge a high price for the disks. It is their way of protecting their investment in the technology. They don't want their customers going elsewhere for the disk and I'm sure they will lock it to each individual unit so you can't just burn your own copy for all your friends (is this way with most DVD based units).

I wasn't proposing to burn a copy of an original DVD I was just wondering if a direct purchase from Sensis was possible. I bet you are right though when you speculate that it will have to be purchased through Holden (at a higher price) because of calibration or other technical issues.

[SPECTRE]

Hey all,

I know there has been bundles of info written about SatNavs, but thought this was an interesting link. It is from the States, but the same GPS Systems are available here in Oz...

Article Link... ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141023

GPS Link (Oz)... ja-gps.com.au/garmin_nuvi660_specs.aspx

(Sorry guys, can't post links as yet.... you'll have to do the tried and true technique.... copy/paste) will may have to put the www in front, although it should work as is... hopefully :)

In the thread JHP is mentioned as possibly having a bezel... have had a look, but nothing on the JHP site.

It would be a bit annoying when you needed to update the maps, load in waypoints or routes etc with a PC, as you would need to remove it to complete those tasks. I also don't think the unit comes with an external speaker jack (could be wrong), so its own speaker would be it. It has Bluetooth capability, but again you would have to rely on its own speaker and microphone so not integrated through the vehicles sound system. That means no mute when a call comes in, no steering wheel button function...

Apart from that, it's an option :)

One of these days someone will make an after market option similar to the BMW system (I drove one for a day and fell in love with the voice activated EVERYTHING)... but until then, we shall have to do the best with what we have.

Cheers...

SPEC...

[V-Car]

Remember that if you're thinking about getting one of these bezels from the bloke that made them on that site above, they are angled towards the driver in a LHD car, so would be facing away from us here.

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~reccie/Nuvi_660.JPG

I did a similar thing about 4 or 5 years ago when the old Garmin2610 first came on the market.
Imported one from the US and mounted it in the same spot on my VX and used an external antenna.
Didnt look anywhere near as decent as the one above as i didnt make a surround, but it looked ok, and worked well.

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~reccie/Garmin2610.jpg

I havent updated the maps for a few years, but the unit is still going great in my current car.

[Tony Kendal]

When is getting closer.
GMH is about to issue a recall on all sat navs. They will replace the SIM. MIM antenna and issue Version 14 maps. Your letter is in the mail. This may not hit the newspapers as it's not safety related.

I would hope..... outside every holden service managers office, there is a Blau-funkt head on a stick.

[vasyd]

This is good news (I won't be holding my breath though). I wrote to Holden recently complaining about the Sat-Nav issues and they gave me a "don't call us we'll call you" reply and said that the fix wouldn't be available until Feb 08 as they were still working on the problem.

[milkojnr]

Hi Guys,
I rang up my local dealer today to organize my SSV 15,000 service.

I asked them about the update to the Sat Nav with the version 14 maps. They said it was available now and they have ordered me the up grade and I will have it done during my service next Wednesday.

Fingers crossed it happens. Will report back on how I go.

I have my Sat Nat since Jan so I will know for sure if the upgrade is any good.

[EXCESSV]

Hi Guys,
I rang up my local dealer today to organize my SSV 15,000 service.

I asked them about the update to the Sat Nav with the version 14 maps. They said it was available now and they have ordered me the up grade and I will have it done during my service next Wednesday.

Fingers crossed it happens. Will report back on how I go.

I have my Sat Nat since Jan so I will know for sure if the upgrade is any good.do u have a campaign number or something for the sat nav work?
as my dealer is still playing dumb and says they dont know of any upgrade and i wanna get it done when they sort out my stereo facia so if i have the campaign number they can look into it and order the bits to do it all at the same time

[vasyd]

I enquired about the recall by email and this is the answer I got back form Holden!

Dear Sir,

Thank you for your email.

Please be advised that there is no official statement from Holden, as of yet, regarding a recall related to the Satellite Navigation Systems.

Yours sincerely,

Holden Customer Assistance Centre

I suppose they did say "as of yet" so there is still hope.

[milkojnr]

I don't have a campaign number or anything like that.

I just rang up for the dealer booked the service. I asked him if the upgrade for the version 14 was available and he said yes. The dealer said he will order me one now for my service next Wednesday.

We will just have to wait and see what happens then.

i will believe it when I see it.

Fingers crossed.

[V-Car]

Mapping software and sat nav operating system software are two completely different things.
Some seem to think that by upgrading to version 14 mapping, all their problems will be fixed.
This is not the case, and the system software is what Holden are trying to fix and have no idea about, hence saying they hope to have a fix by early next year.

[lethal66]

Well i havent had 1 problem with my sat-nav.
And for the version 14 disk mine will be here next week

[milkojnr]

Well I can now report back that I had my SS-V serviced today and had my Sat Nav upgraded.

It have new Firmware and Version 14 Maps DVD !!!!

I have only just driven it home so I will see how it goes over the next week or so.

But I can confirm I have version 14 DVD.

If you would like me to check any locations please let me know.

[EXCESSV]

Well I can now report back that I had my SS-V serviced today and had my Sat Nav upgraded.

It have new Firmware and Version 14 Maps DVD !!!!

I have only just driven it home so I will see how it goes over the next week or so.

But I can confirm I have version 14 DVD.

If you would like me to check any locations please let me know.was this as part of a recall or something as my dealer continues to play dumb about the sat nav updates so a campaign number or something would be greatly appreciated if you have one

[milkojnr]

EXCESSV,

Campaign number is TL 137-0705.

Hope this helps you.

[EXCESSV]

EXCESSV,

Campaign number is TL 137-0705.

Hope this helps you.thank you very much mate :bow::bow::bow:

[untamd]

Just a question? Can you watch DVD's movies on the factory Sat Nav DVD Player ?

[darrenblake]

Hi all,

Got a call from Holden this afternoon.

SATNAV updates are ready to go, and they are letting all owners know over the coming weeks.

[blackduck]

milkojnr,

could you try new Winton Road and Basil Brown drive Tamworth?

thanks,

I've heard nothing from Holden or the dealer, but 30K service due next month, so we'll see

[milkojnr]

milkojnr,

could you try new Winton Road and Basil Brown drive Tamworth?

thanks,

I've heard nothing from Holden or the dealer, but 30K service due next month, so we'll see

It came up with (Winton Road, New) in Tamworth.
No Basil Brown Drive in Tamworth or Tamworth CBO

[V-Car]

They are both listed in Westdale, not Tamworth in Garmin mapping.

[milkojnr]

They are both listed in Westdale, not Tamworth in Garmin mapping.

New Winton Road coming up in Westdale too.
But Basil Brown Drive doesn't come up at all.

[V-Car]

Basil Brown Dr. runs off to right when travelling west on New Winton Rd.

[ashisb]

Got my "customer satisfaction program" letter yesterday. Will take it in next week for V14 and hardware and software updates "if required".

[Tornado 900]

analogue watch, topo map and compass?

[blackduck]

milkojnr & V-car, thanks for that. My NAVMAN has 'em both, and yep, classed as 'westdale'.

It appears as though 'some roads' may have been reclassified by 'whereis', but looks like a way to go yet. I'm sure that the roads are in the DVD, it's just the SATNAV whizbangbox has been programmed not to read down to that level.

Still, if the dealer has V14 at the 30k service, I'll thow it in.

[EXCESSV]

i got my letter tonight from holden saying to book car in and get the V14 disc and any necessary hardware and software updates...
looks like as said a campaign recall and warranty fix on the units.

now to call dealer and see where my stereo facia is :vpo: and do the lot in a day :yahoo:

[Wonky]

now to call dealer and see where my stereo facia is :vpo: and do the lot in a day :yahoo:
Still at Blaukrapt?? :confused:

[EXCESSV]

Still at Blaukrapt?? :confused:who knows gary.
hopefully this time with me presenting them the bulletin on how they need to do it even though they should know this and not have me stick a piece of paper saying this is what your supposed to do. they have filled out the right form and right codes hopefully.

thanks once again gary for your help...it meant my dash wasnt put in pieces :bow:

will call the dealer on monday to see where its at but i am more keen on this DTI coming from CSV so i can go mafless and hit the track on wednesday!!!

[Runner]

I received my letter yesterday as well. I have called the dealer and as they didn't have a kit on hand will call me to arrange a time for me to come in and upgrade my system.

The service lady also made mention of the fact I may have to have a new raidio /cd / dvd unit put in because mine may not be compatible with the new upgrade. This was after I made mention that I did have problems with my Sat Nav screen from time to time including freezing of the maps and the display of the air conditioning features at the top of the screen. All the problems seem to fix themselves after a car restart or even after 10 mins or so of driving.

Hopefully all these issues will be a thing of the past.

By the way my campaign number was different to the one mentioned previously maybe due to either the fact it is for HSV or a different build date?

Mine is 07-CS-12.