DVD - Played in Front of Car [Archive] - Australian LS1 and Holden Forums

Janus

18-02-2007, 12:39 AM

there is a connection to the handbrake, and it will only operate with the handbrake on.

That isn't correct. It only works when the car is under around 5kmph or so, the hand brake doesn't need to be on for it to work. I was in the HJ's drive through the other day with people in the back and when I wasn't moving or only creeping forward it would display on the centre screen but if I got above walking speed it would cut out in the front and just show "REAR AUX" on the screen whilst still playing the sound throughout the car.

As for how you turn it on, if it is the same as the Calais V, then all you need to do is turn on the DVD player in the back and then press the "AUX" button on the radio console in the front. This will put the DVD on the front screen and play the audio through the cars speaker systems. However, as mentioned before, when you begin to move the vision cuts out but the audio still plays.

It is also illegal to have a video screen displaying where the driver can see it and thus this is a standard feature in cars with screens in the front, from Audi, to Mercedes, to BMW, to Aston Martin. I guess it could be overriden if you know what you are doing, but I know people who have been pulled over by the police and fined for having video screens playing in the front of cars, so if you do it you may be looking at a fine.

I can also say that I really think it is dangerous to be driving with the video playing. When I had it playing through the car and the video would come back on when I stopped at a red light it really was a distraction looking at the screen.

mustanger

18-02-2007, 12:58 AM

Good post Janus. Where is the thank you button when you need it .And you are right ,you just press the AUX button on the dash when the rear DVD is on. Cheers John

vecommo

18-02-2007, 02:54 AM

That isn't correct. It only works when the car is under around 5kmph or so, the hand brake doesn't need to be on for it to work.
This has got me wondering... Maybe the only way this can be overidden is with the tech 2, or whatever Holden use these days?

While I like the design of the VE's dash and screen, I find it somewhat disappointing that Holden have followed other manufacturers with these integrated units. If they had given us a standard din/double din removeable unit it would be so much easier.. out with the old and in with a top of the range Pioneer/Alpine/Kenwood etc TV/DVD player.

It is also illegal to have a video screen displaying where the driver can see it and thus this is a standard feature in cars with screens in the front, from .

The screen should stay on for the front passenger IMO.

T_Kiwi

18-02-2007, 06:37 AM

i put in an after market dvd in my car in the front and drove to victoria with it on, the kids loved it and didnt hear an argument all the way from them. i didnt get distracted at all, a big thumbs up for the dvd player when ya got kids :)

Goggles

18-02-2007, 07:13 AM

The screen should stay on for the front passenger IMO.

no because the driver can still see it.

if the front seat passenger wants to watch the DVD, all they need to do (as my wife does) is to recline the passenger seat to be able to see the rear screen. not too hard and it does work.

I must admit that having the soudn thru the car speakers is not distracting at all. in fact I have found it to be the opposite.

moose

18-02-2007, 07:52 AM

How the hell you gonna watch the road if you get the dvd working whilst driving. That's the problem with cars, too many distractions. Riding a motorbike, all you have is the road to concentrate on. No changing CD's, heater settings, etc. :teach:

Maybe manufacturer's need to reduce the amount of distractions in cars and see what happens to the road toll?:idea:

Anyway, if you've got a car a nice to drive as the VE, why do you want to watch a DVD?;)

Ausmartin1

18-02-2007, 08:55 AM

Right on Moose ! Well said.

"Anyway, if you've got a car a nice to drive as the VE, why do you want to watch a DVD?"

Unfortunetly there are too many Wankers out there already that are doing just about everything possible already EXCEPT DRIVING, we really don't need to add to it by watching DVD screens.

It only takes a second for somthing unexpected to happen and you or other innocent people are cactus if your not concentrating on driving 100%.

The amount of Wankers in the last few years I have seen read full size newspapers or eating foot long rolls or drink hot coffee from Ceramic Mugs or talking on non handsfree phones while driving either all over the road or missing lights both green or red just totally ticks me off.

If these darwin types take themselves out, its as nature intended but don't take innocent others out or their property.

When you Drive then DRIVE 100% as the cemetary if full of Multi tasking Wankers and the rest of us still what to enjoy driving our cars for as long as possible;)
I want my car & the family inside it to remain to both remain in good health & shape.:cussing:

forestjim

18-02-2007, 09:09 AM

There is a bloke who answer questions in the Audio section. Just post it and maybe he will answer you. I have the rear dvd in my car it's great for my daughter. I wouldn't want it in front, it's a great idea at first but what happens if you went up the arse of someone and had the front DVD rewired. The insurance companies will look at any reason not to pay out on claims.

Just put a heaps of mp3's on CD's and let the kids watch the DVD in the back or just put a music DVD in the back.

Have Fun

Marty

vecommo

18-02-2007, 02:39 PM

no because the driver can still see it.

if the front seat passenger wants to watch the DVD, all they need to do (as my wife does) is to recline the passenger seat to be able to see the rear screen. not too hard and it does work.

Yeah that's a great idea....until you have an accident, and we all know what happens in an accident when you have the seat reclined like that.

Goggles

18-02-2007, 02:46 PM

Yeah that's a great idea....until you have an accident, and we all know what happens in an accident when you have the seat reclined like that.

well its not reclined that much.

BLACK expreSS-V

18-02-2007, 04:10 PM

As discussed in a number of other threads on the VE sound systems, GPS and electronics...

The VEs make use of the GM-LAN computer messaging / programming. What this means is that there are very few circuits, relays or wiring solutions used when building "features" into the car.

Everything is programmed in a master program with all the different modules in the car having their own controllers which run inputs and electronic programming "switches" to control things.

So, something as simple as the DVD screen turing off at 5-6 km/h is not a wire to a relay off a speed sensor or handbrake connection etc, but some lines of programming that let the screen work when the speed is under a certain speed. There is no "wire" to bypass. Same for the lights staying on when you exit, the sunroof staying open after you take the keys out if you press the button etc.

Even getting an image on the front head unit is a challenge as many stereo installers have found out. Working out the wiring of the rear aux port and connecting up an aftermarket DVD player and hitting the "aux" button twice to select "rear aux" all sounds easy, but the problem is getting the head unit to "switch on" the port to accept video internally and display the signal is impossible. The factory GM DVD o/head unit sends the correct signal to the head unit down the CANBUS wiring and all is good.

The answer to our problem is time. Alpine and others are on the case.

See a thread on this site about the new Cobra GPS units running thru the head unit - they have worked something out....

Alpine claim to be working on the HUB system (like the BA/BF Falcon version) so hopefully when that comes out the others will copy / follow the lead.

For now its - buy the factory DVD and wind your seat back, or install a couple standalone strapped in portable units and let the kids work it out...

flamebird

19-02-2007, 10:24 AM

I have to agree with some here - it's bad enough that people talk on phones/read newspapers/eat while driving. Giving them a DVD to watch can't be a good thing.

At the risk of hijacking the thread, I read a recent study that found things like DVD players used to keep kids quiet in cars can have a negative impact on the development of their imagination and creativity. So, maybe if you don't want to have kids who grow up as mindless drones, don't tick the DVD player option box :)

ssgirl2

19-02-2007, 10:39 AM

At the risk of hijacking the thread, I read a recent study that found things like DVD players used to keep kids quiet in cars can have a negative impact on the development of their imagination and creativity. So, maybe if you don't want to have kids who grow up as mindless drones, don't tick the DVD player option box :)

The amount of time kids will spend travelling in the car and watching dvd's is no where near the normal, everyday TV/DVD viewing kids do at home and they already say the above (your post) about regular TV/DVD habits anyway.

You want peace and quiet? Put on the damn TV/DVD...just like the parents of those born since the late 60's :lmao:

BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

SS :lol:

SCOTTR8

19-02-2007, 10:58 AM

prototype gm lam3 interface for front screen operation is a done deal, we will be fitting them up in the next month or so

cheers scott:thumbsup:

NickS

19-02-2007, 11:12 AM

If you are using the wireless headsets with the DVD you can still have the radio or a CD playing through the cars speakers, in this case the DVD won't play on the front screen. As others have said, if you select the AUX audio setting it will play the DVD through the cars speakers and you will get the vision front & rear.

I can confirm that the front vision has nothing to do with the handbrake, the image pops back on at every set of lights and disappears again when you start moving. We only use ours on long drives, holiday type drives, and sometimes late at night if we want the kids to fall asleep on the way home. They watch very little TV at home and never play computer games. They spend their lives playing outside and doing sport ... I highly doubt a DVD in the car whilst on a long drive will turn them into "mindless drones".

:rolleyes:

I reckon the DVD player is awesome, I'll never have another family car without it.

OLS108

19-02-2007, 11:25 AM

sorry about the mis information on the handbrake. i assumed they worked like an aftermarket system that connects to the handbrake.

But i agree with NickS, the DVD player is the best money Ive spent, my daughter sits still, doesn't whine cry or carry on which helps me to concentrate and keep my eyes on the road.... and my speed;)

kermatt

19-02-2007, 10:08 PM

BLACK expreSS-V

19-02-2007, 10:23 PM

prototype gm lam3 interface for front screen operation is a done deal, we will be fitting them up in the next month or so

cheers scott:thumbsup:

Sounds very interesting, PM sent...

racketsports

20-02-2007, 08:16 AM

Can anybody else get the vision to appear in the front of the car like NickS can?

When I started this thread I didn't want to be able to watch the DVD in the front whilst I am driving, I just wanted to know how you could get the vision up in the front of the car whilst stationary.

Mine performs the same as Nicks. Worked well when stuck in gridlock trying to get out of a parking station after a major concert. Allowed me to kep my cool and like Nick said, they are worth their weight in gold when on long trips with the kids, so much so we got an aftermarket Clarion instaled in the Prado too.

Mr Moosh

20-02-2007, 08:29 AM

Can anybody else get the vision to appear in the front of the car like NickS can?

When I started this thread I didn't want to be able to watch the DVD in the front whilst I am driving, I just wanted to know how you could get the vision up in the front of the car whilst stationary.

Press the AUX button to the left of the screen. There are 2 auxilary inputs; the CD/Radio unit and the rear DVD unit, so pressing the AUX button switches between the two. Anyway, someone already said press the AUX button in this thread... :werd:

EDIT: Right of the screen rather.

kermatt

20-02-2007, 08:57 AM

Press the AUX button to the left of the screen. There are 2 auxilary inputs; the CD/Radio unit and the rear DVD unit, so pressing the AUX button switches between the two. Anyway, someone already said press the AUX button in this thread... :werd:

EDIT: Right of the screen rather.

Done that - screen is just blank (& yes the DVD is playing in the rear of the vehicle!)

Also just looked at the Holden brochure & on the page about the SSV it says "when the vehicle is stationary the multifunction colour LCD display acts as a second DVD display if the optional DVD player is fitted". So officially it can be done - must have another fiddle tonight.

Also on the same page it has a picture of the multifunction colour LCD display showing the title of the CD & the track being played. Mine only shows what number CD and track number, not the title.

More fiddling to be done.......

HSVREDSLED

20-02-2007, 09:07 AM

At the risk of hijacking the thread, I read a recent study that found things like DVD players used to keep kids quiet in cars can have a negative impact on the development of their imagination and creativity. So, maybe if you don't want to have kids who grow up as mindless drones, don't tick the DVD player option box :)

I would agree if the children were relatively well behaved. However, if your kids are anything like mine, I would rather risk them becoming "mindless drones", rather to arrive strangled by their parents.

I was talking to a family (2 adults/2 kids) the other day who bought a Honda Odyssey just so the kids could have a whole seat each and portable DVD player each to avoid fights and wrestles.

Sounds crazy???? Maybe. But for anyone who has lost their cool at kids whilst driving would agree, that having to break up fights in the back seat is probably more dangerous than talking on mobiles, etc will ever be.

Bring on the DVDs!

Mr Moosh

20-02-2007, 09:18 AM

Done that - screen is just blank (& yes the DVD is playing in the rear of the vehicle!)

Also just looked at the Holden brochure & on the page about the SSV it says "when the vehicle is stationary the multifunction colour LCD display acts as a second DVD display if the optional DVD player is fitted". So officially it can be done - must have another fiddle tonight.

Also on the same page it has a picture of the multifunction colour LCD display showing the title of the CD & the track being played. Mine only shows what number CD and track number, not the title.

More fiddling to be done.......

Hmmm... thats very strange. Theres nothing more really to it, so you may need to get someone to look at it.

And with CD track names, that only works for MP3 CD's that you have created off your computer. Normal CD's that you buy from a shop don't come with the Track information on the disc (well ive only ever owned 1 that has).

Cheers

ssv6spd

20-02-2007, 09:33 AM

The DVD only appears on the front screen when you are stationary and once you hit 10kms the DVD cuts out. The problem with my DVD was that the rear screen didn't work and after 3 months i now have it fixed.

I have to agree that the DVD is a great thing. If the mrs is annoying you, you can put her in the back with the DVD to keep her quiet ;)

forestjim

20-02-2007, 09:39 AM

Here Here;)

kermatt

20-02-2007, 11:44 AM

Hmmm... thats very strange. Theres nothing more really to it, so you may need to get someone to look at it.

And with CD track names, that only works for MP3 CD's that you have created off your computer. Normal CD's that you buy from a shop don't come with the Track information on the disc (well ive only ever owned 1 that has).

Cheers

Thanks Mr Moosh

I might have to take it back to the dealer. "Rear Aux" comes up on the front display when I'm driving, but reverts to a blank/black screen as soon as I stop.

And cheers about the info about the MP3 CDs.

Mr Moosh

20-02-2007, 11:48 AM

I might have to take it back to the dealer. "Rear Aux" comes up on the front display when I'm driving, but reverts to a blank/black screen as soon as I stop.

Thats exactly what happens when its working, except the image would come up instead of a blank screen. :p While 'Rear AUX' is on, does the DVD's audio play through the cars speakers?

kermatt

20-02-2007, 11:51 AM

Thats exactly what happens when its working, except the image would come up instead of a blank screen. :p While 'Rear AUX' is on, does the DVD's audio play through the cars speakers?

I can hear the DVD's audio through the speakers without any drama

mustanger

20-02-2007, 11:58 AM

Can anybody else get the vision to appear in the front of the car like NickS can?

When I started this thread I didn't want to be able to watch the DVD in the front whilst I am driving, I just wanted to know how you could get the vision up in the front of the car whilst stationary.

First of all make sure the ignition is on .Put the dvd player on ,with or without the remote,then wait till you have a picture on the rear screen. Once you have that ,just press th aux button on the dash, it should come on then. If you wish to clear the front screen, just press the tuner button for example and you will have the radio just coming through. If you get stuck , just send me a PM and I can go through it with you....Cheers John.

Mr Moosh

20-02-2007, 12:37 PM

I can hear the DVD's audio through the speakers without any drama

So that proves that there is something wrong with the video connection from the DVD player to the front screen. You can't listen to the DVD through the speakers without having the visual up the front... So unfortunately it looks like you're gonna have to get a service guy to have a look at it.

Cheers, and goodluck with fixing it

moose

20-02-2007, 03:17 PM

I was talking to a family (2 adults/2 kids) the other day who bought a Honda Odyssey just so the kids could have a whole seat each and portable DVD player each to avoid fights and wrestles.

Unfortunately that doesn't fix the problem, it makes it worse. Pandering to the kids by going to that expense, what are they going to demand and win next time?

Cobalt

21-02-2007, 09:13 AM

I hope one day that posts to this forum can be made without the expectation of "Social Comment"

The guys ask "How do I do this" and you all hijack the thread and talk about why he shouldn't do what he wants to. Misunderstanding what he is asking for aside.

You guys make Illegal mods to your cars every day.... Yes they are in the engine bay but when someone wants to make it so he can watch the DVD player while moving you judge him and comment.

DVD's while moving is not that distracting for me. I have had a operational DVD player that works while moving in my various cars for over 6 years. I have never come close to an accident and it is no worse that Sat Nav which is legal. You listen to the sound and glance at the player ocasionally.

The world is becoming a place where we force everyone to be put in the stupid jar because they can't decide for themselves if this is dangerous. And they can't find their own limits.

For some people it would be dangerous. Same as letting them loose in an F1 car would probably kill them.

Cobalt

OLS108

21-02-2007, 10:00 AM

i agreee Chad, I find high Five or Wiggles far less distracting then my daughter getting frustrated with being stuck in a car seat for hours.
BTW i saw the Katie wagon last saturday lowing the jet ski's, Mate Best looking wagon ive ever seen. Well done :thumbsup:

chevypower

21-02-2007, 10:01 AM

Using a DVD player to avoid family conflict is a sad attempt at a solution to a serious problem, but having said that, they can make a long boring drive a bit more fun. I am guessing front screens that are part of the head unit are connected to a vehicle speed sensor - what happens if you disconnect that? Is the VSS required for the front to display a DVD?

ssgirl2

21-02-2007, 10:24 AM

Using a DVD player to avoid family conflict is a sad attempt at a solution to a serious problem, but having said that, they can make a long boring drive a bit more fun.

Sad attempt?
Serious problem?

(Pauline voice) Please explain... :D

SS :)

Sorry for hijacking your thread but my hackles are up.

chevypower

21-02-2007, 10:44 AM

That's ok SSGirl, there's nothing wrong with believing that a DVD player is the answer to all of life's problems, and I am sure you can watch DVDs of Dr Phil to enhance the relationships between the children and the parents and make them even closer, even on the way home from school! LOL

ssgirl2

21-02-2007, 12:20 PM

chevypower

21-02-2007, 01:25 PM

You don't happen to be in politics do you?

SS :p

LOL with all due respect, I am not the one quoting politicians....

(Pauline voice) Please explain... :D

(and to get back on subject which is an un-politician kind of thing to do) I am not against in-car DVD players, but i do see that people use them to avoid communicating with each other. Thanks for your input SSgirl, I am wondering if you're a politician or a comedian :-)

Ryzz

21-02-2007, 01:58 PM

I am guessing front screens that are part of the head unit are connected to a vehicle speed sensor - what happens if you disconnect that? Is the VSS required for the front to display a DVD?

As has been mentioned earlier, its all controlled through the computer thanks to the new CAN-BUS system that is in the VE. Its not a sensor wire, its lines of code in a computer that need to be changed.

moose

21-02-2007, 04:39 PM

I hope one day that posts to this forum can be made without the expectation of "Social Comment"

That's never going to happen:p

German Statesman

22-02-2007, 06:15 AM

no because the driver can still see it.

if the front seat passenger wants to watch the DVD, all they need to do (as my wife does) is to recline the passenger seat to be able to see the rear screen. not too hard and it does work.

I must admit that having the soudn thru the car speakers is not distracting at all. in fact I have found it to be the opposite.

I had the TV playing all the time in my BMW (a mod discovered by a BMW mechanic), and although it could be distracting when Vlad The Mad Crab Sheller got frisky with Venska The Dumb Nubile Washerwoman on SBS, the screen was actually out of my line of sight.

My limo customers loved it, my kids loved it and I watched so much Jerry Springer I became addicted :p

Cheers

JOHN

NickS

22-02-2007, 06:59 AM

LOL with all due respect, I am not the one quoting politicians....

(and to get back on subject which is an un-politician kind of thing to do) I am not against in-car DVD players, but i do see that people use them to avoid communicating with each other. Thanks for your input SSgirl, I am wondering if you're a politician or a comedian :-)

What a crock of shit ... who here has said "we stick the DVD on so that we don't have to talk to each other".

Kids get BORED on long drives, little kids get REALLY BORED on long drives. If you think that you or your partner can entertain 2 kids under 5 for 5 or 6 hours then good for you. We play games with them, we talk to them and then we stick a movie on and they sit quietly for an hour and half.

All the people passing judgement on parenting skills and the future behaviour / intelligence of our children because they watch a movie on a long drive need to wake up to themselves. We do not have the DVD on everytime we get in the car, it is not an electronic babysitter, sometimes people watch movies ... THAT'S IT !!!

Clearly they have never watched a movie or TV or they would be mindless drones.

:cussing:

DJSean

22-02-2007, 07:35 AM

I think this whole thing has gone a little serious...

I think personal judgements aside and get on with helping out on the original topic..

chevypower

22-02-2007, 07:41 AM

What a crock of shit ... who here has said "we stick the DVD on so that we don't have to talk to each other".

Kids get BORED on long drives, little kids get REALLY BORED on long drives. If you think that you or your partner can entertain 2 kids under 5 for 5 or 6 hours then good for you. We play games with them, we talk to them and then we stick a movie on and they sit quietly for an hour and half.

All the people passing judgement on parenting skills and the future behaviour / intelligence of our children because they watch a movie on a long drive need to wake up to themselves. We do not have the DVD on everytime we get in the car, it is not an electronic babysitter, sometimes people watch movies ... THAT'S IT !!!

Clearly they have never watched a movie or TV or they would be mindless drones.

:cussing:

Why dont you read my first post in this thread where I said it "can make boring drives more fun?" I was making comments towards the "stop kids fighting" posts which you also obviously didn't read.

NickS

22-02-2007, 11:09 AM

Why dont you read my first post in this thread where I said it "can make boring drives more fun?" I was making comments towards the "stop kids fighting" posts which you also obviously didn't read.

Sorry ... I didn't memorise who made each post :rolleyes:

You said "i do see that people use them to avoid communicating with each other" ... that's what I was responding to. If you understand the reasons behind using them then why bother saying that people use them to avoid communicating with each other ???

chevypower

22-02-2007, 11:19 AM

Sorry

Apology accepted :-)

Nickoff

22-02-2007, 02:23 PM

Does anyone know if the sound via the dvd player through the car speakers is in surround sound - i.e. DD or DTS? It would be nice to listen to Eagles HFO in DTS through the car speakers...

Baddaz

22-02-2007, 03:12 PM

Does anyone know if the sound via the dvd player through the car speakers is in surround sound - i.e. DD or DTS? It would be nice to listen to Eagles HFO in DTS through the car speakers...

A big fat No.... Only if you have a Caprice.
I don't know if DTS is supported, haven't tried my collection in the car speaker arn't up to my standards as I've said a long time before. Don't remember seeing anthing about DTS support in the manal, but if it does play back, it's stereo only.
I know it Sucks.....Surround decoders arn't that expensive any more. but having said that how much would these cars cost as if they had every thing we wont'd.

Goggles

22-02-2007, 05:43 PM

What a crock of shit ... who here has said "we stick the DVD on so that we don't have to talk to each other".

Kids get BORED on long drives, little kids get REALLY BORED on long drives. If you think that you or your partner can entertain 2 kids under 5 for 5 or 6 hours then good for you. We play games with them, we talk to them and then we stick a movie on and they sit quietly for an hour and half.

All the people passing judgement on parenting skills and the future behaviour / intelligence of our children because they watch a movie on a long drive need to wake up to themselves. We do not have the DVD on everytime we get in the car, it is not an electronic babysitter, sometimes people watch movies ... THAT'S IT !!!

Clearly they have never watched a movie or TV or they would be mindless drones.

:cussing:

well said Nick - I agree with you.

We have DVD players in both the Commodore and Patrol.

IMHO it is very important in the Patrol, as the kids get bored quickly when we go off-road, and the last thing you need is kids fighting when you are trying to avoid going even more off-road than you intended. from my point of view, off-road driving requires so much more concentration that on-road driving.

German Statesman

22-02-2007, 08:53 PM

Does anyone know if the sound via the dvd player through the car speakers is in surround sound - i.e. DD or DTS? It would be nice to listen to Eagles HFO in DTS through the car speakers...

That annoyed me about the BMW - the TV sound was mono which nicked me bigtime. I was told I could split the mono signal into a 'fake' stereo signal but it wouldn't be perfect.

Still sounded okay over 10 speakers though :yahoo:

Cheers

JOHN

Nickoff

23-02-2007, 02:23 PM

Badass

Your dead right, it would not have cost Holden much more to include a surround sound encorder in the unit - I'd pay the extra in a flash! You can get a cheap Chinses DVD player for $49 bucks now that can output DD and DTS!

Why does it take so long for this sort of technology to trickle down to the automotive industry? I mean, we all suffered with tape decks as standard equipment in cars for over 10 years after cd became mainstream.....

Mr Moosh

23-02-2007, 02:47 PM

Why does it take so long for this sort of technology to trickle down to the automotive industry? I mean, we all suffered with tape decks as standard equipment in cars for over 10 years after cd became mainstream.....

Look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves...

It's like when Holden stopped putting the "Alloytech 190" badges on the VZ's after they were forced to cut costs. It's amazing how cutting back on little things here and there will help turn a profit. Don't get me wrong, I hate the sound set up too!

mac06

23-02-2007, 02:54 PM

Look after the pennies and the punds will look after themselves...

It's like when Holden stopped putting the "Alloytech 190" badges on the VZ's after they were forced to cut costs. It's amazing how cutting back on little things here and there will help turn a profit. Don't get me wrong, I hate the sound set up too!

It had more to do with latest fashion than cutting costs. A badge doesn't cost much so it would be a pointless cost cutting exercise. A lot of new cars don't have badges lately.

On the subject of why the automotive sound systems are behind the home systems, perhaps it has something to do with the vibration and heat the systems have to put up with in cars as opposed to the home system that just sits in a corner. The car system has to be more rigorously built.

moose

23-02-2007, 04:00 PM

It had more to do with latest fashion than cutting costs. A badge doesn't cost much so it would be a pointless cost cutting exercise.

I really hope you don't actually believe that. Think of it from a basic maths perspective - a badge may cost what 50c to $1. Multiply that by say 100,000 cars = good enough reason. Add to that another $1 saving per car here or there and pretty soon you have serious bucks and plenty of reason to cut costs.

Mass produced cars are built down to a cost, not up to a standard.

Mr Moosh

23-02-2007, 04:09 PM

It had more to do with latest fashion than cutting costs. A badge doesn't cost much so it would be a pointless cost cutting exercise.

Umm pretty sure it was cost cutting. Other things were removed from the cars as well. If my memory serves me correctly I think the light in the glovebox was taken out as well, along with other little things. Also this all just randomly occured while the VZ was on sale, not at the introduction of a new model.

I really hope you don't actually believe that. Think of it from a basic maths perspective - a badge may cost what 50c to $1. Multiply that by say 100,000 cars = good enough reason. Add to that another $1 saving per car here or there and pretty soon you have serious bucks and plenty of reason to cut costs.

Mass produced cars are built down to a cost, not up to a standard.

Thats it. And you have to try and cut costs on the little things that consumers hopefully wont notice, rather than removing standard features.

BLACK expreSS-V

23-02-2007, 09:06 PM

Hey Mr Moosh,

Can you use your industry contacts to give us an update on the VE Commodore interface for the new Alpine HUB systems? or any other manufacturer who is developing a system using FIT?

Mr Moosh

24-02-2007, 12:19 AM

Hey Mr Moosh,

Can you use your industry contacts to give us an update on the VE Commodore interface for the new Alpine HUB systems? or any other manufacturer who is developing a system using FIT?

Industry contacts? Yeah sure. If only they existed.... ;)

kermatt

18-05-2007, 09:55 PM

I have finally taken my SSV to the local dealer for it's 3000km freeby and I asked them to look at my problem of not getting any DVD vision in the front of my car when stationary.

(To refresh I have a SSV with the optional rear DVD. When playing a DVD I can get sound through the stereo, but no vision. When driving the Holden logo appears in the front screen, but when I stop the logo disappears and a black empty screen appears. And yes I have pressed the AUX button.)

I was told by the dealer that the DVD only works in the front of the vehicle when stationary in the Calias V, and not the SSV.

I'm sure that this is incorrect. The manual is inconclusive and not much help.

So, if there are any SSV owners out there with the DVD option, and the vision does appear on the front screen when stationary, could you please reply.

Thanks

Pilbara SSV

18-05-2007, 10:07 PM

DVD will definately work in the front in my SSV as long as you aren't moving. Dealer is full of crap. None of the techs/salesman have much knowledge about their product, when we picked our SSV up none of the Holden people new how to turn on the driving lights (pull head light switch out), luckily car comes with a manual for you to read.

kermatt

18-05-2007, 10:15 PM

Thanks Pilbara - just as I thought

ssv6spd

19-05-2007, 12:35 PM

Yep , DVD definitely work in the front, but only when stationary

oscar

18-09-2007, 08:29 PM

prototype gm lam3 interface for front screen operation is a done deal, we will be fitting them up in the next month or so

cheers scott:thumbsup:

Scott,

Any futher word or action on this?

Am about to order a new Calais and will option with the DVD player only if i can get it to run in the front whilst the car is in motion.

Reason is i want to put in a TV receiver and have that on the screen so i can listen to the news on TV whilst i'm in the car.

Other option is to order an aftermarket number and i'd prefer to steer away from this if possible. If nothing else it just wont have the same finish to the vehicle.

Any info you have would be great.

Cheers.

canook

13-12-2007, 06:38 PM

this is possible to do now... certain car audio dealers around the country have access to a programmer that allows "video in motion" as well as allows you to unlock the opening screen pictures(you can change it to one if the following: caprice/hsv/chev/holden/vauxhall)
unfortunately its not cheap @$250 iirc as they have to pay for the unit to be able to do it and its not cheap.

I did a 07 Caprice with this tool and put an after market nav through the DVD input on the front screen so he can see the Nav while driving(he can also watch the DVD in the front not that i recommend that)