View Full Version : supercharger to suit 480ci lsx
vs510ci
28-02-2007, 02:21 PM
hi to all at harrop engineering .
i have recently assembled a 480 ci lsx short motor . Im looking to supercharge it . what would you recommend . ive been told the present hh series you have would be too small . i intend on running ls7 heads by gm or et performance heads .
regards
Hi ...
I suspect the HH122 would struggle to get the best out of a 480ci, but we have something coming that will almost certainly be a suitable solution.
The bad news is that it will be at least a couple of months before the production version is released. We will be able to match LS1/2, L76, and LS7 heads. :yahoo:
vhls2
02-03-2007, 04:09 PM
we have something coming that will almost certainly be a suitable solution.
The bad news is that it will be at least a couple of months before the production version is released. :yahoo:
Please explain? Some people may wait for this FI package instead of buying another, if they knew some more details:yahoo:
cheers
We have just completed a prototype of a product that will have its first "outing" in a couple of weeks. It will be shown in the USA & Aussie at the same time ... Harrop designed & built.
Based on the experiments and testing to date ... awesome!
I suspect some people may need to re-think their "physics" theories and reasons to unjustifiably claim that positive displacement superchargers are inferior. :deal: :teach:
We have just completed a prototype of a product that will have its first "outing" in a couple of weeks. It will be shown in the USA & Aussie at the same time ... Harrop designed & built.
Based on the experiments and testing to date ... awesome!
I suspect some people may need to re-think their "physics" theories and reasons to unjustifiably claim that positive displacement superchargers are inferior. :deal: :teach:
Can't wait Ken......
The GTS is waiting for you:yahoo:
Tully
vhls2
02-03-2007, 06:09 PM
We have just completed a prototype of a product that will have its first "outing" in a couple of weeks. It will be shown in the USA & Aussie at the same time ... Harrop designed & built.
Based on the experiments and testing to date ... awesome!
I suspect some people may need to re-think their "physics" theories and reasons to unjustifiably claim that positive displacement superchargers are inferior. :deal: :teach:
Thanks heaps Ken:yahoo: Sounds bloody awesome, will it bolt up just like the HH122?
cheers
vs510ci
02-03-2007, 06:46 PM
Thanks ken for your reply .
the 480ci engine is going into a elfin streamliner . everybody is eagerly awaiting to see what sort of numbers she can pull with harrop supercharger fitted . im looking forward to see what sort of one lap dash times it can run.
regards
vhls2
18-03-2007, 06:02 PM
We have just completed a prototype of a product that will have its first "outing" in a couple of weeks. It will be shown in the USA & Aussie at the same time ... Harrop designed & built.
Based on the experiments and testing to date ... awesome!
I suspect some people may need to re-think their "physics" theories and reasons to unjustifiably claim that positive displacement superchargers are inferior. :deal: :teach:
Hi Ken, It's been a couple of weeks now, any updates for us guys?
cheers
A hint of things to come ...
http://gallery.harrop.com.au/main.php?g2_itemId=674
http://gallery.harrop.com.au/main.php?g2_itemId=674
:love:
vyssbeast
18-03-2007, 10:03 PM
http://gallery.harrop.com.au/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=675&g2_serialNumber=2
Was that it ken?
OUTAtheBloo
18-03-2007, 10:06 PM
Oooooer SUPERCHARGER !!!
:lol: :drool:
"The Dream Continues"
Dan
Uncle Tone
18-03-2007, 10:19 PM
http://gallery.harrop.com.au/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=675&g2_serialNumber=2
The lag-free solution for the big cube LSX....
Can't wait to see some results!:thumbsup:
Riley
19-03-2007, 08:09 AM
Is this a resurrected TSK2300, a new Roots or something different again?
Sidewindr
19-03-2007, 10:04 AM
2.8l Pd ?? :)
Mainlube
19-03-2007, 10:56 AM
Ken
Would this 2.8 Litre handle a 500 CID 8 Litre engine ?
If so, what would you think the maximum boost would be with a 2.8 L on a motor this size ?
:cheers:
Steve
It is an entirely new design Roots-based 2300 (not 2800 ... yet).
The biggest it has been tested on yet is a wild 427ci ... It would be inappropriate for me to issue the results as it is being used in a GM Performance (USA) LSX 427 development project.
We have had to reduce rpm to keep the boost to below 15psi on my 402 with ~230 cam, but it may struggle to feed a 500ci.
:thumbsup:
Mainlube
20-03-2007, 06:50 AM
It is an entirely new design Roots-based 2300 (not 2800 ... yet).
The biggest it has been tested on yet is a wild 427ci ... It would be inappropriate for me to issue the results as it is being used in a GM Performance (USA) LSX 427 development project.
We have had to reduce rpm to keep the boost to below 15psi on my 402 with ~230 cam, but it may struggle to feed a 500ci.
:thumbsup:
Keep us posted with this Ken, we have a few fore months to go before the GM LSX tall deck is released around ..... September they tell us :)
Wouldn't hurt to have the the info a few months before then on what it would take to supply 10 psi for a 500ci, ATM everyones thinking turbo.
500ci 4L80e AWD with a 10 psi PD does sound :yahoo:
Cheers
Steve
Sonic_Brew
20-03-2007, 02:26 PM
I dont mean to rain on the parade, but wouldn't a whipple 3.3 twin screw be the best for what these guys are looking for?
limmo
20-03-2007, 05:09 PM
Ken thats the baby i'm waiting on and Sam will be the to install it on my 412cubic inch ls2. Please keep me posted as i'm waiting.
I dont mean to rain on the parade, but wouldn't a whipple 3.3 twin screw be the best for what these guys are looking for?
We have Lysholm 3.3's in stock, but they are a LOT taller and takes significantly more power to turn as it is a true compressor. Both products have their place.
Ken,
any power figures with new blower on your 402ci engine?;)
Sonic_Brew
21-03-2007, 03:32 PM
We have Lysholm 3.3's in stock, but they are a LOT taller and takes significantly more power to turn as it is a true compressor. Both products have their place.
Yeah, just saw those after a browse of the web site.
I've been told that a twin screw is the ideal pd charger... why wouldnt you use twin screw? PM if I'm hi-jacking.
vhls2
22-03-2007, 11:05 PM
Hi Ken, Is the new 2.3L the same height/dimensions as the HH122? Is the same intercooler used as well?
cheers
http://gallery.harrop.com.au/main.php?g2_itemId=671
http://gallery.harrop.com.au/main.php?g2_itemId=671
Yeah, just saw those after a browse of the web site.
I've been told that a twin screw is the ideal pd charger... why wouldnt you use twin screw? PM if I'm hi-jacking.
One of the main issues is the 3.3l doesn't fit under the bonnet.
VYSHSV8
23-03-2007, 08:26 AM
One of the main issues is the 3.3l doesn't fit under the bonnet.
It does is you slam the bonnet really hard:cussing:
Yes it needs another 5mm of space in there well thats for the whipple
vhls2
25-03-2007, 02:42 PM
Geez I'm biting at the bit to see more pics and details of this awesome supercharger :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
vhls2
15-04-2007, 05:15 PM
It is an entirely new design Roots-based 2300 (not 2800 ... yet).
The biggest it has been tested on yet is a wild 427ci ... It would be inappropriate for me to issue the results as it is being used in a GM Performance (USA) LSX 427 development project.
We have had to reduce rpm to keep the boost to below 15psi on my 402 with ~230 cam, but it may struggle to feed a 500ci.
:thumbsup:
Any updates Ken?
TLX, Ken's 402 has >450rwkw:driving:
I've been told that a twin screw is the ideal pd charger... why wouldnt you use twin screw? PM if I'm hi-jacking.
Twin-screw probably was the PD of choice ... until now.
Hi Ken, Is the new 2.3L the same height/dimensions as the HH122? Is the same intercooler used as well?
Very similar ... same height(ish). They are not interchangable tho' as the HTV outlet port is wider & longer. Ther share the same inlet adaptor bolt-pattern. The same intercooler cores, but we are developing a new radiator.
The kit still fits under the GTO hood ;)
Geez I'm biting at the bit to see more pics and details of this awesome supercharger
Soon ...
Ken, any power figures with new blower on your 402ci engine?;)
I have been a little distracted of late (not work related :bawl: ) so I have not even done a real calibration. I will probably work on it next weekend to get some power-related data. With the very rough and ugly tune (complete with MAF) it has ... LOTS.
:thumbsup:
choppo
19-04-2007, 09:11 PM
When will it be ready Ken? Cant get a HH122 and Damien wont email me back (from Wed) as to delivery on the HH122..... how long before i can get a-hold of the new one? Ready to go......
When will it be ready Ken? Cant get a HH122 and Damien wont email me back (from Wed) as to delivery on the HH122..... how long before i can get a-hold of the new one? Ready to go......
Choppo.
Been told will be avail mid year at earliest:errr:
Will be worth the wait though:flamin:
Tully
When will it be ready Ken? Cant get a HH122 and Damien wont email me back (from Wed) as to delivery on the HH122..... how long before i can get a-hold of the new one? Ready to go......
Probably not likely to get an email back if you are sending to "Damien", as he is spelt "Damian". Try damian@harrop.com.au
;)
choppo
20-04-2007, 09:32 AM
Any idea on the ETA of the new one - mid year like suggested or longer?
Any idea on the ETA of the new one - mid year like suggested or longer?
At this stage I am unwilling to commit to a timeframe as we are flat-out trying to keep up with demand of "current" products. It would be irresponsible of me to force my pet project through (again) when the guys are sweating blood to get through the existing orders.
I will say that it will not be in a production kit form before July.
:cussing:
vhls2
20-04-2007, 11:04 PM
Sounds like the "Kenne Bell" 2.8L supercharger:drool: will have some competition? Hey Ken any chance you could post up some pics of the 2.3L fitted to your monaro?
cheers
VooDoo
20-04-2007, 11:40 PM
did you get my messages Ken? Ive dropped in, PM'ed and called you but havnt heard back from you.
vhls2: There is no "kennebell" kit as such. KB make manifolds which dont work on any of our LS1's (cept a corvette kit). The photo's from the other thread just use a core from them but nothing KB actually manufacture.
Sounds like the "Kenne Bell" 2.8L supercharger:drool: will have some competition? Hey Ken any chance you could post up some pics of the 2.3L fitted to your monaro?
cheers
check "GALLERY" section on Harrops site:yahoo:
vhls2
21-04-2007, 09:56 AM
Kenne Bell doesn't actually make the blower but produces the kit, there is a VZ getting one as we speak(2.8L vette kit) and they suit 98-04 LS1's.
As for pics on Harrop's site of the 2.3L I can only find 2 very partial pics, but I've still got one on my pc that Harrop has since removed from the site, why I dont know? Maybe coz it's a pic of the full setup????????????????
did you get my messages Ken? Ive dropped in, PM'ed and called you but havnt heard back from you.
Please check your PMs. (Always best to contact me via email of ken@harrop.com.au).
Cheers.
Hi Ken.
Will new blower be suitable for 427ci engine ??
Any testing results from US yet;)
Hi Ken.
Will new blower be suitable for 427ci engine ??
Any testing results from US yet;)
We have hand-made a couple of LS7 manifolds (one for the US project), and we will be releasing an LS7 kit after the LS1/2/6 and L76/92.
Testing in the US has gone well, and impressively. They are now re-working the intake filter/duct as it was restrictive. I will not table any results until I have authorisation by GM performance.
Meanwhile ... We have done a little more testing with the HTV2300 on my car (402ci with very mild cam). Without spending much time at all, we have more than 410rwkw through the MAF. The potential is great, especially when we get some time and when 2-Bar'd.
We have hand-made a couple of LS7 manifolds (one for the US project), and we will be releasing an LS7 kit after the LS1/2/6 and L76/92.
Testing in the US has gone well, and impressively. They are now re-working the intake filter/duct as it was restrictive. I will not table any results until I have authorisation by GM performance.
Meanwhile ... We have done a little more testing with the HTV2300 on my car (402ci with very mild cam). Without spending much time at all, we have more than 410rwkw through the MAF. The potential is great, especially when we get some time and when 2-Bar'd.
Any further news here Ken ?
Thanks:yahoo:
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