Unfortunate road rage incident

[KingClifton]

I had the misfortune of being severely road-raged yesterday - with my partner and our 5-month old son in the car. I was minding my own business doing 83km/h in the left lane (on a 3-lane highway) in heavyish traffic, when some meathead in a VN-era Statesman appears from nowhere and rides my tail. He'd been weaving in and out of traffic for a few hundred metres, and I then I managed to change lanes. But this knobsucker followed me, then overtook (abusing me as he went past) then started trying to force me off the road. I'd nearly escaped him, and pulled into the left lane, but he swerved across 3 lanes (forcing other cars to brake/swerve), pulled up behind me, and got out of his car and started walking towards the car. I instinctively bolted - thankfully down the slip lane, and he didn't follow me.

Is this what HSV ownership is like? My old Audi was pretty stealth, never seemed to attract any attention.

The police don't want to know because I can't give a complete rego #, despite the fact that I can describe the driver and give 2 of the 3 numbers in the rego (unsure of the order). How many blue early-90s Statesmans can there be with rego starting with WYS? Nice to see my tax dollars going to good use.

Irony of ironies: this happened about 2km from where this car was built :)

[ROGUE]

mate, that's the norm for driving around that area.

i always lock my doors and drive at warp speed through any suburb with the words 'para', 'elizabeth', or 'salisbury' in them :lol:

all adelaideans will understand ;)

[Red CV8 R]

Road rage is a part of life in Sydney but it only just happened the other day to a mate of mine and his girlfriend, a guy in an R34 GTR skyline of all things tried to run his Honda off the road just because they were driving "to slow" and then at the next set of lights got out and tried to attack them with a metal baseball bat but luckily the lights changed and they were able to get away through some back streets before he could get back in his car. This was in Hornsby which is not a dodgy suburb (although getting worse!). They got the rego of the car but Hornsby Police were not interested. Although I know of people who have had guns pointed at them in road rage incidents and the Police were still not interested. I dont think the car you are driving would have much to do with it.

[KingClifton]

I've been travelling this road (Main North Rd) for over 5 years now and never had anything this bad. I'm used to the feral count being pretty high, and I've been followed before (last time I let the guy follow me all the way to the Gawler cop shop. I have a block of land in the Adelaide Hills and although it is vacant right now, pitching a tent and living on it is starting to look pretty attractive. I gave the GF an ultimatum - if we haven't moved in to the new house by the end of this year, I'm gone.


Although I know of people who have had guns pointed at them in road rage incidents and the Police were still not interested.

Then why do you guys keep on re-electing the same government?

[Red CV8 R]

Then why do you guys keep on re-electing the same government?

I have no idea!!! I sure as hell wont be voting for Labor this time :cussing:

[walnuts]

I cant understand why people act like this. We are not at war with each other!

[planetdavo]

Don't be too hard on the police. They cop enough abuse as it is when they don't deserve it, and the lack of a full rego number makes it very hard to form a case.
Unfortunately, there will always be idiotic behaviour on the roads. They might have been simply jealous, or they might have been trying to steal the car. Maybe they just think it's "their" road!
These people usually end up in trouble one day...

[Brockfan05]

I have no idea!!! I sure as hell wont be voting for Labor this time :cussing:


Really wont matter who you vote for, the same "waste of space" police will be (and I use this term VERY loosely...) 'serving' the public.

[planetdavo]

Really wont matter who you vote for, the same "waste of space" police will be (and I use this term VERY loosely...) 'serving' the public.
The government ultimately dictates the amount of police available, by setting their budget. The amount of staff divided by their workload means most of them are just way too busy for complaints with half information. It's just way too easy to bag the cops...

[KingClifton]

Unfortunately, there will always be idiotic behaviour on the roads. They might have been simply jealous, or they might have been trying to steal the car. Maybe they just think it's "their" road!
These people usually end up in trouble one day...

I've consoled myself with the thought that this guy has a pretty sad life - driving a 15yo bomb, living in the northern suburbs, probably working a dead-end job with no prospects. If this is the only excitement he can get in his pathetic life, then so be it. At the end of the day I'm the one who owns the Clubbie :) This might sound conceited, but if you were in fear for your 5-month-old son's safety, you'd think the same way I do.

BTW - VE R8, great car. Glad to me among you all now.


The government ultimately dictates the amount of police available, by setting their budget. The amount of staff divided by their workload means most of them are just way too busy for complaints with half information. It's just way too easy to bag the cops...

It makes you wonder why, for example, the Gawler police would have a blitz on obscured (ie. slightly dirty) number plates while cars are being stolen and vandalized at the train station not more than 500m away.

[planetdavo]

It makes you wonder why, for example, the Gawler police would have a blitz on obscured (ie. slightly dirty) number plates while cars are being stolen and vandalized at the train station not more than 500m away.
There are a number of decisions behind the scenes that the actual police have no choice in doing. Who do you think loves speed camera revenue, and what do obscured plates cause a reduction in...???
Problem is that if they spend their day hanging around the station, something will be going on elsewhere!!!
They can't win in the public eye.....

[VX2VESS]

police even with full details of road rage seem reluctant to do anything at all, even when damage, weapons etc are involved! fact.

you report it it just your word against them, so they can't be bothered. they may take the details but that all that will happen.

So no one is safe and you have no protection in these cases.

the worst thing is when your doing the right thing sitting on the speed limit and because they want to exceed it you become a target.

[KingClifton]

So no one is safe and you have no protection in these cases.

the worst thing is when your doing the right thing sitting on the speed limit and because they want to exceed it you become a target.

And the GF wonders why I desperately want to move out of the northern suburbs.

[Martin_D]

Irony of ironies: this happened about 2km from where this car was built :)

Thats no irony....that is what you expect out there...and plenty more of it. Either move out, or bring it to me for a tune so you can outrun the flanelette shirts. If its a matter of life and death we do have a heartfelt side and can tune your car to keep your family safe :)

[SSBarney]

To be fair to the Police, they are under resourced in most states of Australia.
Road rage incidents would no doubt be hard enough to get any real outcome as it is one persons word against another, and they will only get one side of the story.
And in this instance the guy acted threatening and the victim couldnt give a full rego. So police have to spend hours trying to track this guy down (assuming his rego details are up to date) to say what? Please dont get out of ur car?
Dont get me wrong u did the right thing getting out of there, but be realsitic on ur expectations of the cops.

[ROGUE]

Thats no irony....that is what you expect out there...and plenty more of it. Either move out, or bring it to me for a tune so you can outrun the flanelette shirts. If its a matter of life and death we do have a heartfelt side and can tune your car to keep your family safe :)

but the big question is, does he get a sympathy discount? :lol:

ps - tuna, i need to come and see you soon. not about big lumpy 6 litres, but small pissy 2 litre turbos.... need to pick your brain and wisdom...

[6LtrLimo]

and once you've done that Damo, Ill see if I can get some straight talk out of him regarding 2.5ltrs of turbo goodness.....

[ROGUE]

and once you've done that Damo, Ill see if I can get some straight talk out of him regarding 2.5ltrs of turbo goodness.....

i wanna check out the KKR range... something outside the norm. see if i can start a new trend and get him some new business from the rice brigade :lol:

[Nutter]

I'm looking at the KKR range right now for my toy, cant find a lot of real experience with them weather it be good or bad.....

[CalaisRider]

Reminds me of what I thought was a funny incident about a month ago. Was on the way back from a cruise and we were on the freeway. I could see this lunatic with skirts and flashy bits weaving in and out of traffic at a fair rate of knots. There was a car in front where he probably was going to squeeze
between me and him. I down shifted a few and blew him away and blocked his anticipated path. He horned me , fingers up and yelling - next he pulled over toward me within inched trying to intimidate or run me off the road. He had no-where to go even though we were at the designated speed limit.. I just kept my line, any prang between us is his fault..

What he didn't know is that my cruiser mate behind us has all sorts of video and speed assessment technology installed, so ithe event was all captured on video including a close up of his plates.. I have the disc of it so could go to the police but hey it was just testosterone bullshit LOL..

No skin off my nose I was just satisfied that I stopped his dangerous driving and that he knew he had no-where enough power to outrun me. Life is what you make it - and we are the ones that "elect"to get angry, but to what end!!

[gasguz]

Then why do you guys keep on re-electing the same government?

Will not matter who is in charge, the blackmarket is alive & well, it is a buyers market out there due to there being a virtual flood of merchandise. All this after the Gun Buy Back schemes & the amnisty offers awarded to those who handed them in with no questions asked. Supply far outways demand

Society in general has been a decline for a while now, everyone is running 10 minutes late & respect/courtesy has all but been forgotten, all I can do is hold my kids close & hope for the best. It is a shame that my kids & alot of others will not get to enjoy the things that we took for granted.

Sorry to hear about the rage, hope the family is OK

[Brockfan05]

Don't be too hard on the police. They cop enough abuse as it is when they don't deserve it, and the lack of a full rego number makes it very hard to form a case.




PFFFFFT!!!

[seedyrom]

My old man was riding his bike when a guy in a car hit him and ran him off the road. Damaging the bike, causing him cuts and graising from when he hit the ground, and then the driver took off.
He recorded the guys rego and went to the cops.

But they weren't interested, so there's nothing they can do and didn't even take my father's name down till he demanded they do.

Maybe you have to be dead to get some results. :werd:

[Brockfan05]

Maybe you have to be dead to get some results. :werd:

Nah, that just gives 'em an excuse to completely ignore the case......

[VX2VESS]

we've had a few of these threads before.

seems to be a legal way to kill someone without going to jail.

[V6Sucka]

mate, that's the norm for driving around that area.

i always lock my doors and drive at warp speed through any suburb with the words 'para', 'elizabeth', or 'salisbury' in them :lol:

all adelaideans will understand ;)

Interstate plates seem to make you more of a target down there. My olds live in Woodcroft (haven't a clue if it's a northere suburb souther suburb, or just plain shitty suburb) so we get over there roughly every 3rd year. I'm glad i know how to get there because i wouldn't want to be misplaced with agro about.

[VYBerlinaV8]

I find it interesting how conventional wisdom has always been to take details and refer the matter to the police, but when the police refuse to take action (for whatever reason), the wisdom starts to break down.

I do not condone vigilante action, but unless the cops, and their masters, get their $hit together, this is exactly what we will see more of.

Unfortunate, really. I am glad that not much of this goes on where I live.

[Knight Phlier]

I thought they were cracking down on HOONS and RAGE? Isn't there 'dob-in-a-hoon" and wouldn't a hoon and road rage in some cases be the same?

[Brockfan05]

I thought they were cracking down on HOONS and RAGE? Isn't there 'dob-in-a-hoon" and wouldn't a hoon and road rage in some cases be the same?

It all depends on whether there is revenue to be had or not..........

[Brendan24688]

Ok lets forget about the incident for a second here... May i ask what was the speed limit on this highway?

And if it was a 100 zone why would you only be doin 83 or wat ever it was?

This dude obviously had no right but it really pisses me off when people go that slow left lane or not. Going that slow makes other people who are doing 100 have to go around you..

Brendan

[Brockfan05]

Main Nth Rd, near Elizabeth in SA, methinks it's an 80kph zone dude.

[Knight Phlier]

Ok lets forget about the incident for a second here... May i ask what was the speed limit on this highway?

And if it was a 100 zone why would you only be doin 83 or wat ever it was?

This dude obviously had no right but it really pisses me off when people go that slow left lane or not. Going that slow makes other people who are doing 100 have to go around you..

Brendan

What if you can only do 80 kays? Does that mean you shouldn't use that particular highway at all? I understand and agree with your point to some degree but if your in the left lane of a 3 lane highway - at least you are being considerate to other drivers. Those who wish to overtake should be aware of slow drivers and read the road ahead, otherwise you shouldn't be overtaking IMO.

[Brendan24688]

What if you can only do 80 kays? Does that mean you shouldn't use that particular highway at all? I understand and agree with your point to some degree but if your in the left lane of a 3 lane highway - at least you are being considerate to other drivers. Those who wish to overtake should be aware of slow drivers and read the road ahead, otherwise you shouldn't be overtaking IMO.


Yer totally agreee. Good he wasn't in the Righ hand lane.

[KingClifton]

Ok lets forget about the incident for a second here... May i ask what was the speed limit on this highway?

And if it was a 100 zone why would you only be doin 83 or wat ever it was?

This dude obviously had no right but it really pisses me off when people go that slow left lane or not. Going that slow makes other people who are doing 100 have to go around you..

Brendan

It was the 80km/h portion near Elizabeth Downs (varies between 70, 80, 90 and 100) and I usually sit just over the speed limit in any zone.

Brendan, I fully agree....it pisses me off too. I have to deal with old geezers in peak time who (a) accelerate at a snail's pace and (b) don't care what lane they dawdle along in. Conditions permitting (traffic, weather, etc) I'd expect all drivers in all lanes to be doing the speed limit +/- 5%. Simply sitting in the left lane does not allow you to sit 20km/h below the speed limit.

As I've had 48 hours to calm down I'm just putting this down to being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The lack of interest shown by the cops (and postings of similar disdain elsewhere in Australia) don't make me too sympathetic to the periodically-rehashed slogans like "Pay Justice For Our Police"...

PS: Thanks to everyone for your support and sympathy!

[Rotty]

Not defending the action (or inaction) of the Police...but sometimes the overwhelming sense of "why do I bother" when good cases get such minimal penalties when they go before the courts..if any at all...that when a case that is difficult to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" is reported...well unfortunately it's often treated as "too hard"...in the older days the offender would have got a severe talking to at least, these days the risk of getting a complaint about the "appropriateness of your actions" and having your career on hold has too many coppers ducking and weaving...sorry...

[Senator05]

Yer totally agreee. Good he wasn't in the Righ hand lane.

So what if he was...it's an 80 kmh zone, so what's inherently wrong with doing 83 in the 80 zone in the right lane ? There was a post 5 hours before that stupid comment that stated it was an 80 zone.

FFS, get the facts, then offer your brilliant analysis and comment.

[Mojo]

Mate don't blame the cops - blame the low life piece of turd who did it.....obviously one of lifes losers who blames everyone else for his own shitty existence...take some satisfaction that these fools always get what's coming to em one day...

[QUOTE=
Unfortunate, really. I am glad that not much of this goes on where I live.[/QUOTE]

Never crossed paths with Mark Latham on the roads over there then eh !:p

[Vulture]

Not defending the action (or inaction) of the Police...but sometimes the overwhelming sense of "why do I bother" when good cases get such minimal penalties when they go before the courts..if any at all...that when a case that is difficult to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" is reported...well unfortunately it's often treated as "too hard"...in the older days the offender would have got a severe talking to at least, these days the risk of getting a complaint about the "appropriateness of your actions" and having your career on hold has too many coppers ducking and weaving...sorry...

It is a shame. But what about if the details were recorded and made accessible on some national database. If the same knob keeps getting complaints then surely there would be some merit on following it up as obviously there is a pattern forming...

[VX2VESS]

gov't only supports revenue raising duties. if theyare talking to poor drivers they aren't collecting fines.

[Toddler78]

So what if he was...it's an 80 kmh zone, so what's inherently wrong with doing 83 in the 80 zone in the right lane ? There was a post 5 hours before that stupid comment that stated it was an 80 zone.

FFS, get the facts, then offer your brilliant analysis and comment.

mate calm down there is something wrong with driving in the right lane in a 80 km zone...... IT IS ILLEGAL the current law states that you must stay to the left lane on a multi lane road unless overtaking so to quote you
FFS, get the facts, then offer your brilliant analysis and comment.

it has got to do also with common courtosy to other drivers, I was in melbourne on the weekend driving and was amazed that almost everyone driving in multi laned roads remained in the left lane unless they were overtaking, no need to weive through traffic.

I dont condone the drivers actions and obviously king was being considerete to others to be in the left lane

these incedents really piss me off and the smart thing to say would be put a cricket bat in your car for the next time but we all know how the law operates you would be the one being locked up. this definatly sucks especially with your 5mth old in the car too not on.

[FatBoy]

Getting away (as safely as possible) when you have a child in a car is by far the best option mate, you did the right thing...

I was very anti road rage until some pr!ck called my old man a "baldy fat f***ing wog" for no reason other than he was going straight ahead at an intersection where there was a green arrow (was blocked in, peak hour traffic).

My dear old Dad just shook his head, then the bloke (early 20's) jumped out of his car with club lock in hand wanting to fight a 60 year old man. Should have seen him shit his pants when two gorillas jumped out of the back seat (Dad and sister were in the front, we were in the back and being a dual cab Hilux with canopy on the back i doubt he saw us) and went after him...

I grabbed him as he tried to run back to his car and took the club lock off him, my brother then proceeded to punch seven shades of shit out of him...

It was pretty funny afterwards when we jumped back in the car (my younger brother can really fight, but i've won all of mine by at least 100 metres) but when i thought about it later, pretty sad. What sort of clown pulls out a club lock on an old man ??


Sorry for dragging out the thread KingClifton, but my point is people just don't seem to give a sh!t about others thesedays. I'm sure there have always been scumbags around but it seems in the last ten years or so it has gotten much worse. Courtesy and respect for others seems to be a thing of the past. Pretty sad isn't it ??

[KingClifton]

Sorry for dragging out the thread KingClifton, but my point is people just don't seem to give a sh!t about others thesedays. I'm sure there have always been scumbags around but it seems in the last ten years or so it has gotten much worse. Courtesy and respect for others seems to be a thing of the past. Pretty sad isn't it ??

Stretching it out....nah, you're showing how at least some of us manage to get their own back :)

It seems like the days of the cops giving someone a stern lecture are all but gone. Used to be that if you got reported for this sort of stuff, you'd have a copper on your doorstep telling you to watch your step. I guess now they're all too busy working as part-time tax collectors.

I think you're right FB, but I'm hoping that things improve once I've moved out of the northern suburbs and into the Adelaide Hills. Now if only I could get my house built.

[xploit]

mate calm down there is something wrong with driving in the right lane in a 80 km zone...... IT IS ILLEGAL the current law states that you must stay to the left lane on a multi lane road unless overtaking so to quote you
FFS, get the facts, then offer your brilliant analysis and comment.

it has got to do also with common courtosy to other drivers, I was in melbourne on the weekend driving and was amazed that almost everyone driving in multi laned roads remained in the left lane unless they were overtaking, no need to weive through traffic.

I dont condone the drivers actions and obviously king was being considerete to others to be in the left lane

these incedents really piss me off and the smart thing to say would be put a cricket bat in your car for the next time but we all know how the law operates you would be the one being locked up. this definatly sucks especially with your 5mth old in the car too not on.


Hahaha... where abouts i want to hear about where this was!

certainly wasnt a freeway or ringroad in peak hour!

Cheers.


Also..

Being a p plater i always carry a weapon, its sad.. because my brother and i have trained to fight and can fight reasonably, but theres so many meathead p platers who couldnt fight to save themselves, but are pretty big when they have a knife/bat/pole in their hand....

It scares me sometimes.. but of course being a youngbloke im a meathead so id rather jump out and fight...

funny story of that in the old vy..

because the tint was so dark you couldnt see people in it, and we were on burke rd and another meathead bald p plater cut me off and so i blasted him, he proceeded to force me off the road and jump out pop the boot and pull out a bat...

heres the funny part.

I had my window down but the rest of them were up, when he jumped out i jumped out, proceeded by my 4 serbian mates who are all about 6' 5" and about 5" wide.. *brickys*.

You should of seen him run.. :yahoo:

Wish i had a video camera.. funny how people change so quickly??

But yeah coppers arnt really interested anyway.

Cheers

[gasguz]

mate calm down there is something wrong with driving in the right lane in a 80 km zone...... IT IS ILLEGAL the current law states that you must stay to the left lane on a multi lane road unless overtaking so to quote you
FFS, get the facts, then offer your brilliant analysis and comment.

it has got to do also with common courtosy to other drivers, I was in melbourne on the weekend driving and was amazed that almost everyone driving in multi laned roads remained in the left lane unless they were overtaking, no need to weive through traffic.


Mate I see your point, but it is a bit hypocritical. As you have pointed out it is illegal to stay in the right hand lane on a dual road with 80k limit or more. But you are also missing that it is illegal to exceed the speed limit also. Why do you need to get around the car that is doing the speed limit?? they might also be in a rush, but they are sticking to the law. So both people are breaking the law.........

Where were you driving in VIC where everyone stayed to the left?? I have been down here for 4 years & find the roads a nightmare to drive on. Especially when it clearly says 1 lane, but you have guys coming up the inside or around you while doing the speed limit. Its plain crazy

[DeViLisanAnGeL]

Here's one for you

A year or so back i made a habit of picking up a friend of mine from school, as it wasn't the easiest thing for her to get home and i usually knocked off work around then. She was usually with a couple of friends.

Being a young bloke with a modified V8 Statesman and three or four young girls in the back, i was apparently an appropriate target for jealousy (or something like that).

Anyways i was driving along burwood hwy when one of the blokes from the same school gets out of his car, asks me "Do you have to rev your engine like that?" (when i accelerated from the lights) and I said "Yeah if i want to" and he sucker punches me in the face while i'm in the car. The sunnies i was wearing split my eyelid open as the lens pushed into it, spilling blood down my face.

Now as i was in the car with three girls, i did the right thing and didn't get out for a brawl. I went straight to the knox cop shop (explains half of it).

I gave the police the guy's full name, full number plate, where he went to school, three witness statements, a personal statement and the number plate of a person who witnessed the incident. I told the police i intended to file charges.

No charge was ever filed against him.

The justice system rocks.

[SSBarney]

I have noticed of late a tendancy of people to try to "police" others by their behaviour in the right lane.
It seems pretty common to be travelling along a few k's over the limit in the right and some one will speed up and pull into the right lane and then block the entire road by sitting at an equal speed to the person in the left lane.

When eventually u pass them they speed up again. Really everything would flow better if everyone just let each others move by instead of getting a thrill by trying to stir other drivers, yet they are too gutless to do it out of their car.

:teach:

[vt350phantom]

mate, that's the norm for driving around that area.

i always lock my doors and drive at warp speed through any suburb with the words 'para', 'elizabeth', or 'salisbury' in them :lol:

all adelaideans will understand ;)

One of my good mates is a cop and works those suburbs u mention. He's always VERY busy he tells me



My dear old Dad just shook his head, then the bloke (early 20's) jumped out of his car with club lock in hand wanting to fight a 60 year old man. Should have seen him shit his pants when two gorillas jumped out of the back seat (Dad and sister were in the front, we were in the back and being a dual cab Hilux with canopy on the back i doubt he saw us) and went after him...

I grabbed him as he tried to run back to his car and took the club lock off him, my brother then proceeded to punch seven shades of shit out of him...



Classic!!!!!!!!

[vxssgurl]

Just a slight correction to the Keep Left in an 80 or higher zone law for Vic... this doesn't apply when the traffic is conjested. According to Vic Roads (and also taught by Murcotts), if you cannot maintain a 2 second gap to the car in front of you, the traffic is classed as conjested, and therefore the "Keep Left" rule no longer applies.

And, actually, it is NOT illegal, immoral or any other form of lower class intelligence to drive below the speed limit. The posted speed limit is the maximum allowable speed for that stretch of road. Driver discretion is then applied to the conditions for whether or not driving at or below the speed limit is required in that given set of circumstances. Annoying yes, but you just have to learn to live and let live.

In my opinion, those who dismiss the other drivers on the road as "tossers" for not wanting to drive at warp speed are the ones with the problem.

[SSBarney]

In my opinion, those who dismiss the other drivers on the road as "tossers" for not wanting to drive at warp speed are the ones with the problem.

In my opinion those that cant operate with common courtesy are the tossers. Its all smooth if we just let each other go. How often do u see the same stupid lack of courtesy when lanes merge in a congested road,... MY SPOT MY SPOT MY SPOT,
Safety on the roads requires every one to just have courtesy, not for everyone to cling to which particular rule they beleive they are abiding to at that minute, (and ignoring the rules they dont like later)

[FatBoy]

One other thing - those who try to act as unofficial police should get the hell out of the way and mind their own business. If i see someone coming up fast i just move over, what's the problem ??

For all i know they could be rushing a pregnant wife or a parent who has just suffered a heart attack to the hospital. It's not a big deal to change lanes and let them go on their merry way. And if they are just wankers hell bent on speeding sooner or later Officer Plod in his highway patrol car will catch up with them and bend them over... :)

Food for thought...

[CarlFST60L]

I had a smart ass kid trying to drag me off at the lights (which i just took off normally), then at the next set of lights its a right turn and then a merge within 100m. He speeds up as quick as his puss box can while everyone is merging 1 for 1 (like every day for the last 8 years), so he is trying to leave a 2ft gap so i cant merge (my pet hate on the road), i just move forward and continue to merge regardless of the little d!ckwad, he's on the horn carrying on, but gets out of the way (it was either that or hit the rear guard on the R8)... I decided that stopping in the middle of peak hour in front of him so he had nowhere to go and requesting a moment to discuss his problem with following the road rules of giving way to merging traffic was a good idea... he was more or less wetting his pants... So he stays 200m behind after i take off in a flurry... next set of lights he has no where to go but sit behind me, so i make another request for his company...

Atleast now there is one more person in Sydney that now understands merging...

Rant over :cussing:

[VX2VESS]

Atleast now there is one more person in Sydney that now understands merging...

Rant over :cussing:

thank god, only 2 million more to go...

i hate that merging lane when if they continued at the speed they are going you have plenty of time to merge, but no they speed up so you can't. happens almost every day.

the other day, one on one merging of two lanes into one, this women comes from about two cars lengths back just to fly past and cut me off. then has to slam on the brakes just to get back to the slow speed everyone was doing in front. why just to gain one position?

[gasguz]

I decided that stopping in the middle of peak hour in front of him so he had nowhere to go and requesting a moment to discuss his problem with following the road rules of giving way to merging traffic was a good idea...

Do you really think that stopping peak hour traffic & getting out of your car to give someone a serve was the right thing to do?? as it would have caused a heap of commotion about 2k back down the road, the domino effect carries on for ages & probably would have made a bad traffic situation worse. Could you not have waited until the traffic stopped or you had come to a set of lights to vent your frustration??

I can understand your frustration in this situation, as it also drives me nuts when this happens. Also seems to matter what car you are driving at the time, If I am in the SS which is very loud & low or even to in the R8 to a lesser extent, as soon as I go to indicate into the gap that was there, all of a sudden the car which I was going to merge in front off speeds up to not let me in. But! if I am driving my wifes stock looking VZ Berlina & do the same, well 8 times out of 10 people will even slow down a bit to let me in. Drives me cfuking nuts!!!

[Brockfan05]

Do you really think that stopping peak hour traffic & getting out of your car to give someone a serve was the right thing to do?? as it would have caused a heap of commotion about 2k back down the road, the domino effect carries on for ages & probably would have made a bad traffic situation worse. Could you not have waited until the traffic stopped or you had come to a set of lights to vent your frustration??

I can understand your frustration in this situation, as it also drives me nuts when this happens. Also seems to matter what car you are driving at the time, If I am in the SS which is very loud & low or even to in the R8 to a lesser extent, as soon as I go to indicate into the gap that was there, all of a sudden the car which I was going to merge in front off speeds up to not let me in. But! if I am driving my wifes stock looking VZ Berlina & do the same, well 8 times out of 10 people will even slow down a bit to let me in. Drives me cfuking nuts!!!

Well the cops refuse to do anything, what did you expect to happen??? And it's only going to get worse. Our society has become a me first, stuff everyone else animal kingdom. Maybe Charles Darwin was right about some of his theories........

[team illucid]

Do you really think that stopping peak hour traffic & getting out of your car to give someone a serve was the right thing to do??

Damn straight it is ...

Good on ya Carl.

[Toddler78]

I was driving back into melbourne from ballarat wasnt that busy, and when driving out to the air port on the tulla highway, once again wasnt that busy so you could get in the left lane and nail it if you wanted to gamble with your licence, in general I have found melbourne drivers a little more courtious then adelaide drivers, however when you piss a melbourne driver off they tend to carry on a bit more than an adelaide driver.

At the end of the day it is all about common courtisy which seems to be what a lot of people are lacking.

[swingtan]

The justice system rocks.

Just a quick point, we don't have a "justice" system. We have a "legal" system, justice plays no part in it.


Simon.

[gasguz]

Damn straight it is ...

Good on ya Carl.

LOL

& here we are all saying that no one has courtesy or respect any more & that people only think of themselves. What is the difference here??

Dont get me wrong I am not having a go & I also said I know how he feels, it all comes down to restraint & me not wanting to go upsetting a few hundred drivers behind me all because I have snapped at someone elses driving & want to have a go at him.

As I said it would have come to a complete standstill down the road with all the other drivers going WTF is going on, I cant see any accidents, which then creates more aggro. I watched a very interesting doco on cable about this subject of traffic flow.

It was peak hour, I would have just stayed with him until the next traffic stop (as he would not have got far) & then got out & went all primal on him. Another way to have dealt with this was to just laugh & slot in behind him. I know it is hard but give it a go, your heart will thank you for it down the road. I used to drive from Katoomba into the city then did the Cronulla to North Sydney for years so I know all about peak hour driving aggros ;) having kids (girls at that) has softened me up a bit I suppose.

cheers mate

[CarlFST60L]

Do you really think that stopping peak hour traffic & getting out of your car to give someone a serve was the right thing to do??


Yeah, i do actually, would you like to dicuss it outside?




:stick: Just joking! its a slow intersection, and the lights went red behind me, so there was only a couple of other cars stopped for 20seconds or so, trucks cause 10 times that ever morning on that road as there is a roundabout and hill before the lights which only back up because trucks cant get moving up the hill...

Honestly, i drive slow, and take it easy, and the car has 15% Mirror finish tint, all black car, and the HSV's are agressive looking with great road presence, so most people are actually more weary of the car than the Vy... Once his little virgin eyes got an eye full of all 100kg @ 6'2 climbing out of the car, he very quicky rethought his potion in the food chain :rofl: the look on his face... PRICELESS (PS, if the guy was big, i wouldnt get out of the car, it would have been WOT instead :lol:)

[amckiwi]

I was in melbourne on the weekend driving and was amazed that almost everyone driving in multi laned roads remained in the left lane unless they were overtaking, no need to weive through traffic.

Does not sound like the melbourne I know

[gasguz]

Yeah, i do actually, would you like to dicuss it outside?




:stick: Just joking! its a slow intersection, and the lights went red behind me, so there was only a couple of other cars stopped for 20seconds or so, trucks cause 10 times that ever morning on that road as there is a roundabout and hill before the lights which only back up because trucks cant get moving up the hill...

Honestly, i drive slow, and take it easy, and the car has 15% Mirror finish tint, all black car, and the HSV's are agressive looking with great road presence, so most people are actually more weary of the car than the Vy... Once his little virgin eyes got an eye full of all 100kg @ 6'2 climbing out of the car, he very quicky rethought his potion in the food chain :rofl: the look on his face... PRICELESS (PS, if the guy was big, i wouldnt get out of the car, it would have been WOT instead :lol:)

Dude when it came through to my email it only had the top line, I was just thinking that I am up in Syd on business next friday & we could have hooked up. But all good bud.

You have made me think of a few years back (which I dont condone but enjoyed very much :p) I accidently cut off a young bloke or so he thought, anyway this bugger was on my tail & followed me for ages. So I took him up an un marked dead end street in Oyster Bay, the bastard followed me LOL. So I pulled over & he keeps going, I then pull back out & follow him up the road, well he realises it is a dead end so proceeds to do a uturn up the end. Only to be met by me parked across the road blocking his exit. He gets close & I jump out of my car & (for effect) rip my jacket & tie off & proceed to approach his car screaming my head of, think I was saying something along the lines of "so do you want a c****ing go do you" Since we are chucking in sizes my 6'1 135kg rugby leauge playing ass looking like a village idiot must have had some effect as he was off & I can tell you the only way around me & my car was up the footpath & I can tell you that is where he went @ 100 miles an hour & I never saw him again. I reckon he might have thought twice about following someone else again.

But like I said Mate not having a go at what you did, I just asked about the timing.

cheers

[DeViLisanAnGeL]

Just a quick point, we don't have a "justice" system. We have a "legal" system, justice plays no part in it.


Simon.

Thanks for the correction Simon.

My life will now go on being more complete and i will be happier knowing that due to a distinct lack of effort by those who enforce the law that being smacked in the face is now ok in the "legal" system

:fewl:

[CarlFST60L]

Dude when it came through to my email it only had the top line, I was just thinking that I am up in Syd on business next friday & we could have hooked up. But all good bud.

:lol: gotchya :beer:

[seedyrom]

Guys ... you need a VK.

When I was driving Sonny's VK for a while, I didn't even need to indicate to get into a lane. Everyone cleared out of its way like water does to Moses.

[NickS]

I had a smart ass kid trying to drag me off at the lights (which i just took off normally), then at the next set of lights its a right turn and then a merge within 100m. He speeds up as quick as his puss box can while everyone is merging 1 for 1 (like every day for the last 8 years), so he is trying to leave a 2ft gap so i cant merge (my pet hate on the road), i just move forward and continue to merge regardless of the little d!ckwad, he's on the horn carrying on, but gets out of the way (it was either that or hit the rear guard on the R8)... I decided that stopping in the middle of peak hour in front of him so he had nowhere to go and requesting a moment to discuss his problem with following the road rules of giving way to merging traffic was a good idea... he was more or less wetting his pants... So he stays 200m behind after i take off in a flurry... next set of lights he has no where to go but sit behind me, so i make another request for his company...

Atleast now there is one more person in Sydney that now understands merging...

Rant over :cussing:

:lmao: ... love your work mate.

[VX2VESS]

Guys ... you need a VK.

When I was driving Sonny's VK for a while, I didn't even need to indicate to get into a lane. Everyone cleared out of its way like water does to Moses.


same as the 4wds, cept they roll easy when hit in the side.

i just got another clown today on the way home.. not a roqad rage unless she stopped at the lights and i got out but didn't stop anywhere before i turned off.

i was in a right hand merge lane with cars in front going too slow to merge well as usual.

a break was coming up for me, but the girl behind jump out well before the dotted lines where you merge, speed up and cut me off, i couldn't speed up to stop her because of the other car in front of me, and she got a long jump by crossing double lines to do this. women are getting so bad these days, this is the 2nd time a woman has done that to me in the same place.

[Senator05]

mate calm down there is something wrong with driving in the right lane in a 80 km zone...... IT IS ILLEGAL the current law states that you must stay to the left lane on a multi lane road unless overtaking so to quote you
FFS, get the facts, then offer your brilliant analysis and comment.

Hi Toddler78,

To save you the effort of searching for facts, and as you've decided to make yourself a hero, maybe you can read the following extract from Road Traffic Act (SA) refer -> http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/publications/road_rules/index.asp

Australian Road Rules
Division 2—Keeping to the left
130—Keeping to the left on a multi-lane road
(1) This rule applies to a driver driving on a multi-lane road if:
(a) the speed-limit applying to the driver for the length of road where the driver is driving is over 80 kilometres per hour; or
(b) a keep left unless overtaking sign applies to the length of road where the
driver is driving.
Note 1—
Length of road and multi-lane road are defined in the dictionary.
Note 2—
Part 3 deals with speed-limits.
(2) The driver must not drive in the right lane unless:
(a) the driver is turning right, or making a U-turn from the centre of the road, and
is giving a right change of direction signal; or
(b) the driver is overtaking; or
(c) a left lane must turn left sign or left traffic lane arrows apply to any other lane
and the driver is not turning left; or
(d) the driver is required to drive in the right lane under rule 159; or
(e) the driver is avoiding an obstruction; or
(f) the traffic in each other lane is congested; or
(g) the traffic in every lane is congested.

If you know the road in question, there is a set of traffic lights every 800 metres or so, all with right turn lanes, and is constantly congested during most daylight hours. So where would you see it being illegal to be travelling on the speed limit in the right lane in the 80kmh zone on that road ??

Seeing how you were so keen to inform me of my "error", I'd love to be shown the error of my ways again...please !!

[Alister]

There's nothing worse than idiots that carry on like this on the roads.
A few of you blokes have been telling stories about confronting these road raging idiots to teach them a lesson but honestly, is it worth the risk?
This tools may be smaller than you but how far are they willing to go if you confront them?
Is it worth dying or being seriously injured just for confronting an idiot kid who is acting like a tool on the roads?

Of course, if a similar situation happened to me, i'd be tempted to jump out of the car and started screaming shit at them and acting in an unstable manner (especially since i'm nearly 6'2" and 94kg).
Awhile back, the missus was driving us home late at night when an idiot in a 4WD cut us off deliberately and nearly collided with us. The missus then stayed a reasonable distance back behind him but flashed the high beams once at him. At the next roundabout, he stopped his 4WD, jumped out and started walking towards us. Told the missus to chuck it in reverse and just get away from him which she did and he returned to his vehicle and drove away. Now if it was just me in the car, I would've been very tempted to tango with the wanker but since my missus was with me (and she was the driver too), I didn't want to take the chance of her getting hurt.

To the original poster - you did the right thing to protect your family.

[V6Sucka]

I had a guy once try and confront me.
Driving thru Marrickville one day (well the trouble and strife was, i'd had a little :beer: or 27), and a gentleman parked on a crossing.
I just casually mentioned that you really shouldn't park on the crossing, he wanted to have a go, so been full of dutch courage i was up for anything, but the missus wouldn't have a bar of it, trying to stop me from getting out of the car, and then her mother who was in the back seat trying to stop me as well. Well, it must've looked like i was getting mighty p'd off so for some reason the other bloke backed off, however waited till traffic started moving again the ran up to the rear of the car and kicked it. By that stage i was over it.

Now, does that class as road rage, or pedestrian rage ?

[CarlFST60L]

I had a guy once try and confront me.
Driving thru Marrickville one day (well the trouble and strife was, i'd had a little :beer: or 27), and a gentleman parked on a crossing.
I just casually mentioned that you really shouldn't park on the crossing, he wanted to have a go, so been full of dutch courage i was up for anything, but the missus wouldn't have a bar of it, trying to stop me from getting out of the car, and then her mother who was in the back seat trying to stop me as well. Well, it must've looked like i was getting mighty p'd off so for some reason the other bloke backed off, however waited till traffic started moving again the ran up to the rear of the car and kicked it. By that stage i was over it.

Now, does that class as road rage, or pedestrian rage ?

Being drunk and behind the wheel of a car... i class that as no class at all :cussing: (but we've all had our day ;) )

[V6Sucka]

Sorry it's extremely old.

But, where did i mention specifically that 'I' was driving.

[vecommo]

Sorry it's extremely old.

But, where did i mention specifically that 'I' was driving.

Umm, here:


Driving thru Marrickville one day

[OzExcalibur]

Read the rest of the sentence....

Driving thru Marrickville one day (well the trouble and strife was, i'd had a little or 27)

[DIEFASTER*WH]

I dont condone the drivers actions and obviously king was being considerete to others to be in the left lane
these incedents really piss me off and the smart thing to say would be put a cricket bat in your car for the next time but we all know how the law operates you would be the one being locked up..

Thats why I carry a CLUB LOCK behind my front seat. Lets just say its not just for putting on the steering wheel. When it comes down to it their legal to have in the car, its made of metal so it ain't gonna break & if it a choice between some clown :clown: hitting me & me securing my club lock to some nasty pasty's torso then :bash::thump: .....Its just a shame it has to come down to options like this these days. Where's the love gone people? :love2:

[Drewxt]

Seems this happens to the best of us... I was driving down the Frankston Freeway a couple of months ago, in peak hour - left hand lane, when I was still in the Forester, and had a courier van right on my hammer, who I proceeded to ignore, despite the knocking of fists, and trying to wave me out of the way. It's hard to get out of the way when the traffic is doing 110 km/h, and you're in the flow...

Anyways, turn right into Springvale Road, and stick to the left, only to have this muppet get out of his van at the next set of lights, screaming and ranting at me, calling me a fscking cnut, etc... Good time to run a red, I figured, but he got back in his van, and gave chase, dodging and weaving, and getting out of his van at each set of lights along Springvale Road.

I ended up CALLING the police, to find out where the Springvale Cop Shop was, and hit the footpath outside at 80 km/h, and this muppet followed me INTO the Cop Shop, still threatening to fscking kill me...

Once he worked out where he was, he bolted, and the copper behind the counter got the rego of the van, but refused point blank to even investigate the guys license status, rego status, etc...

I find the attitude of the Police pathetic in instances like this, and as a result, I know carry a loaded Maglite in the car - something I haven't done since my early 20's, when I was working security...

To the OP, you made the right decision on behalf of your family, and to the guy in Sydney who kicked crap out of the guy with his brother, I wish I'd had a couple of my mates with me the day this happened to me, and I'd have done the same!

[BLACK 346]

Thats why I carry a CLUB LOCK behind my front seat. Lets just say its not just for putting on the steering wheel. When it comes down to it their legal to have in the car, its made of metal so it ain't gonna break & if it a choice between some clown :clown: hitting me & me securing my club lock to some nasty pasty's torso then :bash::thump: .....Its just a shame it has to come down to options like this these days. Where's the love gone people? :love2:

Shame is, in this day and age you will probably be the one that
ends up wearing the lock whilst mr pasty sits and grins at you :bawl:
I remember a couple of years back when I was spending near on
11 months of the year o/s and leaving the wife at home alone.
We had 2 x big bad old Rotty's that used to patrol the house and
yard. I was kindly informed that if one of my nice little muts happened
to attack an intruder that I would be the one going to court and
wearing charges, and that at very least we should put a sign on
the gate warning people that we had dangerous animals in there.
For ****s sake, if you were invited in they didn't chew on you.

[SV346]

Its the worst road rage when you get lame bs druggos having their go at you, as well as at everyone else. I have zero respect for anyone on drugs after an incident earlier this year when a scum pos tried the usual ill kill you run you off the road with my bat fairy land cr-p. I wont go into it, but i still remember his plate the f..king b..t..d :flipoff: very lucky for him i havnt seen him around anywhere since then :machinegun: . (YDK 44* a red nissan primera sedan) The only reason i didnt get out and belt him 6feet into the ground was because i had my girlfriend with me and she was already scared enough and i just wanted to get away from this bloke as he had obviously popped a testi or two. Therefore to stop getting a bat in my girlfriends face my only choice was to run a red light at peak hour, not something i would recommend at all, but luckily with good timing i managed to find a gap where i just dumped it, and rang the coppers which did nothing.
Id be more than happy to see all the f..king druggos on this world get their lives taken in the most violent and lengthy way possible. If given the chance id even do it myself, the last thing this country needs is cr.p and the faster we get rid of it the better.
And all of this was because i didnt move over fast enough, which i do in 3 to 4 indicator flashes anyway which is fast enough without being schumacher.
I honestly believe road rage to be the most stupid immature thing anyone can do and people who do it deserve everything bad they get in life. And if anyone feels the need to point it out, yes i have a massive grudge against people like this and id happily smash them so hard till they were disabled of some sort if i was legally entitled to.
Stuff culling roos, cull druggos. I just find it bloody disappointing to watch the people that were once good people with potential ruined by drugs, all to be "cool", which is the last thing they end up, is being a vegetable cool?

[German Statesman]

I got road-raged by the Eagle Boys pizza delivery dude last night :rolleyes:

He took exception to me going up the far left lane when the lights went green, and beating his Daewoo Matiz complete with 'did someone say pizza?' pink lightbox on the roof. Much flashing of highbeam, much bleating of weeny single note horn, much waving of extended middle finger at me out the window...

If that wasn't enough he then tailgated me, tried to swerve around me whenever there was a break in the traffic, and eventually turned away giving me another middle finger salute.

I rang the nearest franchise and reported everything to the owner, and well well well - it was his car and now ex-employee on display to everyone in traffic...I believe some one-sided employment options were going to be issued on Matiz-flogger's return to the shop.

Owned.