1195 rwhp @ 25 psi LS1 Single Turbo BLO 402

[VX SS]

Like to show what HPF has been up to since we missed Summernats with my VX SS,

End of October last year after some racing we needed to get the car ready for Summernats, Rob convinced me to go turbo after a mighty effort we unfortunately fell short as time ran out and we had no spare bottom end at that time,

After some discussion we felt that next time we would have spare engines and embarked on a program to run 3 motors one for the gold car one for the monaro and a spare, all based on the same configuration 360 ci 4.00 inch bore standard stroke.

Well we finally got it together last Friday and heres the graph
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/1195BLO402.jpg
The effort by HPF was nothing less than awesome as we were commited to attend Powercruise last weekend. Two things happened totally on track to do the business ran the motor up thursday week ago and found a water leak.

WTF brand new set of DART heads had a crack in the water jacket to stud hole leaking into rocker cover just unbelievable. Put on my spare heads from last year thay are a plain set off worked LS1 heads ftom Nathan Higgins.

Ran it back up a lot of rattling stripped it down this is just double WTF the crank shaft balance wieghts fitted by manufacturer had fallen out couldnt believe it stuffed 2 CP custom pistons. On investigation it was a manufacturing fault pretty piss poor. we used our spare CP pistons had the equip rebalanced overnight and rebuilt motor and refitted and running by midnight Thursday.

Friday morning we go tuning this is what 16500nm does to your new tyres
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/0_0000rads0098.jpg

This is whats holding that power
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/0_0000rads0095.jpg

Heres the exhaust system 5 inch dump with twin 4 inch pipes
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/0_0000rads0096.jpg

We wanted the car back in one piece so decided to leave it at 25 psi we will push on past 35 psi latter after more testing intake temps were at minus 32 deg with this dry ice intercooler
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/DSC00077.jpg

We loaded and left Melb at 5 pm arriving in Sydney 3.30 am sat to a sweltering 43 deg cel and a single retarder dyno rated at 450 kw and us on standard 26 inch tyres wheelspin city.

Any way we still manage to rattle of 3 back to back 1000 plus rwhp runs the highest being 1056 rwhp with wheelspin still.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/030307pcruise-498.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/030307pcruise-499.jpg

[Frenchy VX SS]

Damn!!!!
Impressive to say the least.... quite a handfull i'd think :driving:

Nice work

[Alex81]

very nice, looks good and would be insane on the road, and thats still a huge turbo:yahoo:

[VooDoo]

I see you just went for the small turbo then mate. :stick:

Definitely an awesome effort with some heartache on the journey. Hope to see what 35psi does.

[VX SS]

I see you just went for the small turbo then mate. :stick:

Definitely an awesome effort with some heartache on the journey. Hope to see what 35psi does.

Heartache depression

dont worry we will be seeing 35 psi for a certain event at least we have 9 months and the cars running already.

[SEDUCE]

hey mate it looked good i was there with our black ute. thats awesome power there and gee thats a huge turbo.
what came second in your class?
we got 4th in the na small block class

[KiWi]

Gary!!! that is awesome, well done to you and the guys from HPF!!

[VX SS]

hey mate it looked good i was there with our black ute. thats awesome power there and gee thats a huge turbo.
what came second in your class?
we got 4th in the na small block class


Yeah saw your car there it was pretty hot plus the weather too

Not sure as the second qualifer didnt turn up for final something about broken car

[TOYLS1]

well done gary, car looks awersome mate

[joffa]

Awesome machine well done.

[highlander_69r]

thats an awesome effert, shame about the rears ;)

[pro 346]

Great to see gary awesome numbers!
I get home on friday after six weeks working on a job overseas,
What are you doing with your old intercooler? Might work good on my ute in the near future if your interested in seling it.
Cheers Leigh

[jsttry]

Damn, well done. Looks like a lot of hard work and fabrication has gone into that.

[zozza]

You could probably put some wings on that sucker and join the RAAF. Hard work pays off sometimes. Top effort

[VYSHSV8]

Yes bloody excellent work Gary keep it up :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[dogsballs]

great work! is this on pump fuel?

[Justice R8]

Great work gaz and HPF. It was an increadibly hot two days. Nice to see it all come together for you guys.

[VX SS]

Thanks for the replies

HPF deserves the Kudos they have stuck at this project through thick and thin.

We havent finished and have a program in place to develop this to our final goal 1500 rwhp on pump gas ( obvoiusly targeted for Summernats )


The car will be at ls1 Drag Nats barring any misadventure it returns to Melbourne for a roll cage next week

[HP-F]

Thanks Gaz you know I use to have a full head of hair before I started working on your car??

This has been a long road but finally we are starting to see the results of all our work from the team here at HP-F. This combination is something I have had in my head for a while and I have to say I am pretty chuffed to see almost 1200rwhp at 25psi with more to come.

The Dry Ice intercooler setup is out of this world! I have to thank Richard from ARE in QLD for his help on this, as this is new technology for us and we are still working out how to get the most out of it. To put things into perspective we have intake temps of MINUS -30Deg, on that sought of boost an efficient air to air intercooler might see POSITIVE 35-40Deg if your lucky. As we learn more about how to pack the intercooler we hope to see -45 Deg. Unbelievable!

The last 2 years has been a massive learning curve for HP-F and how to reliably make 1000+ flywheel horsepower out of the LS1/LS2 platform we now have 4 x ls1/ls2 cars making over 1000 flywheel hp

Just for those who interested the other cars are:

Silver VX SS Twin turbo 408ci - 968rwhp at these years Summernats and winner of the unlimited class, the customer has actually put just over 12000klm on it since I gave it back to him 12months ago.

Green VXGTS Twin turbo 402ci form VIC - 840rwhp on pump gas and has put just over 4000klm on it since he picked it up 4 months ago (drove it to Summernats and back)

TRY HRD - 1268rwhp and Summernats HP Hero winner – Although this year Summernats attempts were foiled by the limitations of the LS1 block. However again we are gathering valuable information and data on these engines and there limitations. Hopefully the new GMPP LSX block may have some of the answers. Remembering with Tryhard we run in excess off 30psi and up to 40psi on pump gas, just getting the head gaskets to seal has been a major issue that way have had to overcome. I don’t know how may people now but Craig is over at the salt lakes in SA this week in TRYHRD.

Thanks to Gary for his commitment to this project and I know it was very frustrating for him to not make to the Summernats this year but I guess all good things come to those who wait...

And before anyone starts on the dyno queen thing this car will be at the LS1 drag nats along with the Silver VX SS ... and maybe another few...

Rob Vickery

[JimmyXR6T04]

awesome mate :thumbsup: that turbo looks massive!! good luck with it all, i can't wait to see it in action.. hope to see some vids :teach:

[SchrgdVSV6]

Well done :)

Looking at the graph it seems to make peak torque right near peak power. Did they get on the gas gradually or was this foot to the floor from low rpm? The reason I ask was that I was curious to see what RPM it hits full boost by, if thats even possible on the rollers/road with normal tyres.

[VX SS]

Well done :)

Looking at the graph it seems to make peak torque right near peak power. Did they get on the gas gradually or was this foot to the floor from low rpm? The reason I ask was that I was curious to see what RPM it hits full boost by, if thats even possible on the rollers/road with normal tyres.

The boost really starts to come on at 4000 rpm, this is no daily driver but after driving the car all weekend I found it to have no lack of TQ down low.

We dont need NOS to spool up as somebody asked me the other day the cam selection seems spot on as we dont need to rev the tits out of it the 1195 was made at 6500 rpm the limiter is set at 6800 rpm.

[Toddler78]

that thing looks awsome, I wouldnt like to be standing in front of it when fully spooled up it'll suck ya shirt off. I know you said this is not a daily driver but do you have any problems with the intercooler sitting so low I would be worried about bottoming out over a speed hump and punching the thing through the bonnet

[VX SS]

that thing looks awsome, I wouldnt like to be standing in front of it when fully spooled up it'll suck ya shirt off. I know you said this is not a daily driver but do you have any problems with the intercooler sitting so low I would be worried about bottoming out over a speed hump and punching the thing through the bonnet

The intercooler is actually inside the engine bay that is the radiator sticking out the front. we modified my existing custom radiator to suit rather than waste it. It is lower than we would like as we wanted to keep it within the body work. Latter we might get a new radiator, at moment it isnt causing a problem.

[Justice R8]

The boost really starts to come on at 4000 rpm, this is no daily driver but after driving the car all weekend I found it to have no lack of TQ down low.

We dont need NOS to spool up as somebody asked me the other day the cam selection seems spot on as we dont need to rev the tits out of it the 1195 was made at 6500 rpm the limiter is set at 6800 rpm.

How much torque does it have at 1500rpm? Have you got a graph from 800rpm? ;) ;) ;)

Just kidding. I couldnt resist. :love: Once again, well done Gaz.

[v-comp]

Excellent work Guys' our hat is off to you:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[VX SS]

Excellent work Guys' our hat is off to you:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks to Darren, you might notice we are using a TBA manifold TB and rails

[Plan B]

Awesome work Gaz, Rob and the crew at HPF! It's a bloody great result! I look forward to seeing this one next year at the Nat's.... :)

You guys just keep on pumping them out hey? :thumbsup:

[VX SS]

Awesome work Gaz, Rob and the crew at HPF! It's a bloody great result! I look forward to seeing this one next year at the Nat's.... :)

You guys just keep on pumping them out hey? :thumbsup:

Robs gone gray and bald over this project but he is one focused boy at least the TEX clutch was one component that worked the way it was supposed to.

[yella terra]

Awesome effort you guys, fantastic piece of engineering. Well done to all involved! :yup:

[Clubby 156]

Very nice gary that is 1 huge turbo.
Must be unbeliveable to drive.
Well down to rob and the boys at HP-F keep the tuff LSX's coming :6bow:

Very impressive numbers

[BIG Shaun]

i think this talk of aiming for 30psi talk is a load of bull shit!
so ya gotta wonder what other miss leading crap as been said so far in this thread.

HERES MY PROOF:

www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/hardcore/0511phr_engls1/




www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/hardcore/0511phr_engls1/


now thats what it takes to make 1350rwhp@30psi. lifting heads on every 1/4 mile run.
now your claiming to make nearly 1200rwhp@25psi "already" with HALF THE ENGINE THAT IS.

cant wait to see this at the "NATS" (hope you dont kill anyone when it f*%ks up)

[QUOTE=BIG Shaun;854900]




now thats what it takes to make 1350rwhp@30psi. lifting heads on every 1/4 mile run.
now your claiming to make nearly 1200rwhp@25psi "already" with HALF THE ENGINE THAT IS.

i guess if its only for dyno action at these hp levels the engine will never see any where near the "LOAD" like it would in a purpose built race car at 170+ mph in the top end.

[KiWi]

Are you questioning Garys car, dyno figures and HPF's work, and achievement?

Or is there something else?

[HP-F]

Shaun you want to be careful whom you call a liar! Ask anyone who knows me I am a straight up and HP-F is my company and my passion, if you think you can jump on my forum and slag us off then you are in for trouble.

I think the only person misleading anybody here is you and who ever is coaching you.

I am happy for you to come to our workshop at any time and check the logs and show you the other two engines we have here of the same combination.

We have been running up to 40psi in TRYHRD now for over 2 years.

Are you that naive that you think W2W are the only people on the planet that can run 30+ psi in an lS1. If you look at our engine and there engine they are very similar. And for your information as mentioned in a previous post we do have trouble with our heads lifting which is something we are constantly working on improving.

The main advantage we have with our combination is the dry ice intercooler.
As for seeing what there like on the strip well you will when our drag car OZIGTO and Gary’s car hit the track, which is what these engine’s have been designed for.

Just remember Shaun, talk is cheap.

Rob Vickery

[SEDUCE]

Yeah saw your car there it was pretty hot plus the weather too

Not sure as the second qualifer didnt turn up for final something about broken car

oh was that the LJ cause my mate i went with owns TUFFLJ who qualified 2nd and snapped a push rod so could go back on but he wouldn't of beat you he was hoping for 1000hp but failed.

[Plan B]

BIG Shaun, what does boost pressure (measured before the intake valve) have to do with what is happening inside the combustion chamber?

Pete.

[BLOWN]

damn, some people have one car built and they know everything

[ED]

home engine builders
:serenade:

[stoney]

well done guys, was great to see the car up close again, the car looks amazing.
the dry ice setup looks awesome, you can tell its cold when the hole front of the car frosts up

[RhysB]

Very impressive stuff! Very tuff setup no doubt, but the car itself looks a million bucks too. Paint and panel looks straight as!
Look forward to seeing its future progression.
Cheers

[BIG Shaun]

BIG Shaun, what does boost pressure (measured before the intake valve) have to do with what is happening inside the combustion chamber?

Pete.

yer, well lets see you put that much boost in yours if its no big deal!




Just remember Shaun, talk is cheap.

Rob Vickery

thanks for that tip Rob,ill keep that in mind whilst watching OZIGTO run!:wave:

[VX SS]

BLO402
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/dn.jpg
TRYHRD
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/dn2.jpg

[RedVYIISS]

damn liars....

BLO402 only 24 PSI and Tryhrd peak Hp at only 34 PSI
















(awesome stuff!!!!!)

[BIG Shaun]

impressive graphs for a dyno queen, BUT! still the big question, is a engine like that going to make it through round after round of SUPER SEDAN reliably with out going SPLAT?................

[VX SS]

impressive graphs for a dyno queen, BUT! still the big question, is a engine like that going to make it through round after round of SUPER SEDAN reliably with out going SPLAT?................

Thank You for such a positive post.

A man of your vast racing experience would probably realise we dont need to run all that power to get it down the track time and time again.

You would also realise as you have pointed out many times prev in other threads we wont have enough tyre to run the full potential of this setup.

I believe in other threads we have said it would be likely that we wouldnt run more than 20 psi when we race these units, pray tell how is this likely to make them magically blow up.

I beleive this thread was started to show the potential of the motor and what HPF has achieved.

It is not your personal thread to show your petty jealousy and insecurities.

[BIG Shaun]

Are you that naive that you think W2W are the only people on the planet that can run 30+ psi in an lS1. If you look at our engine and there engine they are very similar.

Rob Vickery

forgive me for being naive, but you say your engine is very similar!

that CASPER engine was TOTALLY unreliable, nearly every run something seriously F#*ked up, but it was built to break a ls1 1/4 mile WORLD record "THATS ALL" (unreliable time bomb)once that record was achieved the operation was scrapped.
SO IS THIS WHAT YOUR ENGINE IS?
SEE MY POINT! are you chasing the 6.80 ET ?




It is not your personal thread to show your petty jealousy and insecurities.

trust me, there is no petty jealousy here. i will let you guys be the lab rats THEN IF IT WORKS I WILL COPY!

you dislike the fact i keep the threads honest

thank you for a honest post!

[BLOWN]

Seriously man, whatever you’re on you should decrease the dosage as it’s obviously screwing with your brain

:sucks:

[Martin_D]

A great effort this one. Lots of hard work involved for sure (I have seen how much effort Rob etc have put into it). Whether it pushes heads isnt the point. The fact that it pushes the limits is what its about....and it does that :)

[Plan B]

impressive graphs for a dyno queen, BUT! still the big question, is a engine like that going to make it through round after round of SUPER SEDAN reliably with out going SPLAT?................

Shaun,

Mark's car (Hypa) ran an entire season, "round after round" + some testing with more boost than Gaz's car currently has, so why not?

Are you suggesting that all drag cars including Top Fuel should ease up on the boost, just to keep the engine going round after round? ;)

[hsvfreak]

Congrats to Gary and HPF, Impressive stuff again . BLO 402 has always been one of my favourite cars.

BIG Shaun:

WTF are you on about? This thread isnt about you.:teach:

[VX SS]

I will spell out some things a bit more clearly

I have never ever hidden the fact that the goal for the Gold Car is to run Summernats Horsepower Hero which means we are chasing around 1500rwhp on pump gas.

To achieve this we have basically been developing and breaking components for the last two years. We have found solutions to many issues through trail and error.

I would point out that this has never been hidden from anybody who uses this forum. There has been snide and smartarse comments about this in the past but if it was easy everybody would be doing it.


There are still hurdles ahead which will be overcome, we are pretty confident with the package we have now it seems strong as Rob pointed out earlier our biggest concern is the block certainly not the heads lifting. We believe from prev testing that they will work to 30psi without lifting.

Summernats is a one off event and we fully expect to run and have to rebuild the motor after the event. Hence the reason for spare motors.

We will be able to tell after we strip this motor in early May if the block can handle a consistant 30 psi, if it cant we would look at the GMPP block.


In regard to the racing we do that for fun, the motors will be run at a lower boost level we are not running a full drag car like others but a IRS rear end our goals are our goals not misconceptions trying to be attached to our cars.

[hogs]

Evening,

Great effort and congrats to all concerned.

Are Shaun and UTE related?

Must be the SOUTHWARK??

Cheers,

Hogs.

[vytwo]

[QUOTE=VX SS;855461]
" but if it was easy everybody would be doing it."

:yup: :yup: :yup: That about sums it up, keep up the good work guys.

[BIG Shaun]

Shaun,

Mark's car (Hypa) ran an entire season, "round after round" + some testing with more boost than Gaz's car currently has, so why not?

Are you suggesting that all drag cars including Top Fuel should ease up on the boost, just to keep the engine going round after round? ;)

i doubt you would and will ever know the true specs of that engine in marks old car. these guys dont tell ya the truth, "PETER JUST BECAUSE YOUR A GOOD HONEST BLOKE, DOESNT MEAN EVERYONE ELSE IS TO YOU."
no im not saying all drag cars should ease up on the boost, im saying you want to step up into that territory then use a KB as people like myself dont want to wait while the track marshals clean up your mess all the time.
plus you cant go comparing a little 4 head stud per cylinder ls1 block to a full race hemi block with 6 or more studs per cylinder. + super sedan nor group 2 allows you enough time to rebuild your engine after each round.:lol:

[HSVJPL]

impressive graphs for a dyno queen, BUT! still the big question, is a engine like that going to make it through round after round of SUPER SEDAN reliably with out going SPLAT?................

So do you still call the crew at HPF liars????

First your big call was that HPF were bullshit artists, but you were proved wrong.

Now your big question is, 'Oh' I bet it can't last.

You talk about being honest in threads, how about showing some and admiting when you're wrong.

AWESOME EFFORT TO ALL AT HPF - KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK!!!!!!!!!

[BIG Shaun]

Congrats to Gary and HPF, Impressive stuff again . BLO 402 has always been one of my favourite cars.

BIG Shaun:

WTF are you on about? This thread isnt about you.:teach:

WTF are you on about ? there has been alot of useful information generated for the readers of this thread with what has been argued.


So do you still call the crew at HPF liars????

First your big call was that HPF were bullshit artists, but you were proved wrong.

Now your big question is, 'Oh' I bet it can't last.

You talk about being honest in threads, how about showing some and admiting when you're wrong.

AWESOME EFFORT TO ALL AT HPF - KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK!!!!!!!!!

why dont you take the blinkers off before you bash your head into a wall!

i cant be bothered with your stupid questions.....:werd:

[Plan B]

i doubt you would and will ever know the true specs of that engine in marks old car. these guys dont tell ya the truth, "PETER JUST BECAUSE YOUR A GOOD HONEST BLOKE, DOESNT MEAN EVERYONE ELSE IS TO YOU."

Shaun,

Firstly, I’ve gotta say, I think of you as a mate, but you’re a little off track…. So let me explain a few things where I think you may have got it all a bit wrong…. As Rob from HP~F has explained to you, earlier within this thread…. You need to be a little careful when you say people aren’t telling the “truth” as it is after all, their business and achievements like VX SS’s car never comes without pain… Gaz’s car makes the power and from experience with knowing these guys, I know it’s making it with ease. After all, it made this power on pump gas!

Crossing over to Hypa’s (Mark’s) car for a second…. You can’t possibly say these guys aren’t telling the truth because the simple truth is they continued to repeat 7.20’s and better on 3,000lb’s of race weight! How do I know? I used to own the car, I know how it was built, (HEAVY) and I also talk to these guys like mates on a regular basis. I’ve been shown all over the car within their workshop many a time and I totally respect these guys; Con & Vic from C&V Performance…. They work hard and actually own the World record for LS#’s top speed through the quarter mile…. Get a calculator out and work out the FWHP on that heavy weight deal! Then look at the duration it consistently campaigned with street car like maintenance.... It’s an awesome achievement….

So in answer to your statement;




these guys dont tell ya the truth



Yes they do!!

The truth is within the continual performance received from such a basic set-up at the time... I might add this was achieved with all that was available way back then…. At the time! Kudo’s go towards their efforts as they still own the Australian record for ET/MPH and again a World record for MPH! With 3,000lb’s+ it may not be the quickest but it certainly is the fastest and given the weight, that represents more horsepower! ;)

They also got the car down the track many a time without an incident. Something, you have yet to really experience.

Now let’s cross over to Kurt at W2W achievements with the Casper Car!… Kurt, is undoubtedly a cool guy. I met him 2 years ago at SEMA in Vegas and after a solid hour of chat, all I can say is, he calls a spade a spade, complete with total detail if asked. He also shares any knowledge right up to the minute. Very typical of American folk! You’ve got to remember, forums such as this was designed for sharing information amongst like minded people.




no im not saying all drag cars should ease up on the boost, im saying you want to step up into that territory then use a KB as people like myself dont want to wait while the track marshals clean up your mess all the time.

During the last meeting, we only got held up by Group 1’s…. You get that! You should perhaps vent your frustration with these guys? (As a spectator) The KB statement dissolves all of your reasoning for LS# achievements.

Are you really that worried about your current engine? Come on mate….. Tell us what you really feel? :)

[HSVJPL]

WTF are you on about ? there has been alot of useful information generated for the readers of this thread with what has been argued.



why dont you take the blinkers off before you bash your head into a wall!

i cant be bothered with your stupid questions.....:werd:

Must be nice to be you, you can make all sorts of claims (people are liars) and then when you're questioned you can't be bothered.

All you have convinced anyone of is that your credibility is ZERO and people waste their time listening to you.

[BIG Shaun]

Crossing over to Hypa’s (Mark’s) car for a second…. You can’t possibly say these guys aren’t telling the truth because the simple truth is they continued to repeat 7.20’s and better on 3,000lb’s of race weight! How do I know? I used to own the car, I know how it was built, (HEAVY) and I also talk to these guys like mates on a regular basis. I’ve been shown all over the car within their workshop many a time and I totally respect these guys; Con & Vic from C&V Performance…. They work hard and actually own the World record for LS#’s top speed through the quarter mile…. Get a calculator out and workout the FWHP on that heavy weight deal! Then look at the duration it consistently campaigned with street car like maintenance.... It’s an awesome achievement….


i never said i doubted the "performance" of marks car! and yes it was a awsome acheivement "I IDOLISED THAT CAR" i was sorry to here that i would probably never see it run again.

as far as mark not telling the truth, sorry let me reword that as you got the wrong impression. what i should of said is that there not gunna tell you "EVERYTHING" and rightfully why should they, i mean the cost of that engine/ knowledge from the states would have been huge.





The truth is within the continual performance received from such a basic set-up at the time... I might add this was achieved with all that was available way back then…. At the time! Kudo’s go towards their efforts as they still own the Australian record for ET/MPH and again a World record for MPH! With 3,000lb’s+ it may not be the quickest but it certainly is the fastest and given the weight, that represents more horsepower! ;)


as ive explained you dont have to justify that car to me, i would be prepared to travel all the way to sydney just to watch that car do a pass!




They also got the car down the track many a time without an incident. Something, you have yet to really experience.


yes im well aware of this, ive seen a few hero's in my time smash a brand new race car on there 2nd or third run due to pressure they put them selves under to run FAST.
cars of this calibra arnt a joking matter they will put you in the wall as quick as blink if you dont give them respect.
i can tell you now when we go to the nats, if that track is not up to spec i will be putting my car back in the trailer, i curtainly wont be out there kicking the rear end out like you guys were in 2005.




Are you really that worried about your current engine? Come on mate….. Tell us what you really feel? :)


no im not worried about my engine, its built to achieve what i want to achieve as im not out to beat any body "I JUST WANT TO GO BLOODY FAST" being a total new combo though we will have to wait and see.


Shaun,

Firstly, I’ve gotta say, I think of you as a mate, but you’re a little off track…. So let me explain a few things where I think you may have got it all a bit wrong…. As Rob from HP~F has explained to you, earlier within this thread…. You need to be a little careful when you say people aren’t telling the “truth” as it is after all, their business and achievements like VX SS’s car never comes without pain… Gaz’s car makes the power and from experience with knowing these guys, I know it’s making it with ease. After all, it made this power on pump gas!

Crossing over to Hypa’s (Mark’s) car for a second…. You can’t possibly say these guys aren’t telling the truth because the simple truth is they continued to repeat 7.20’s and better on 3,000lb’s of race weight! How do I know? I used to own the car, I know how it was built, (HEAVY) and I also talk to these guys like mates on a regular basis. I’ve been shown all over the car within their workshop many a time and I totally respect these guys; Con & Vic from C&V Performance…. They work hard and actually own the World record for LS#’s top speed through the quarter mile…. Get a calculator out and work out the FWHP on that heavy weight deal! Then look at the duration it consistently campaigned with street car like maintenance.... It’s an awesome achievement….

So in answer to your statement;



Yes they do!!

The truth is within the continual performance received from such a basic set-up at the time... I might add this was achieved with all that was available way back then…. At the time! Kudo’s go towards their efforts as they still own the Australian record for ET/MPH and again a World record for MPH! With 3,000lb’s+ it may not be the quickest but it certainly is the fastest and given the weight, that represents more horsepower! ;)

They also got the car down the track many a time without an incident. Something, you have yet to really experience.

Now let’s cross over to Kurt at W2W achievements with the Casper Car!… Kurt, is undoubtedly a cool guy. I met him 2 years ago at SEMA in Vegas and after a solid hour of chat, all I can say is, he calls a spade a spade, complete with total detail if asked. He also shares any knowledge right up to the minute. Very typical of American folk! You’ve got to remember, forums such as this was designed for sharing information amongst like minded people.



During the last meeting, we only got held up by Group 1’s…. You get that! You should perhaps vent your frustration with these guys? (As a spectator) The KB statement dissolves all of your reasoning for LS# achievements.

Are you really that worried about your current engine? Come on mate….. Tell us what you really feel? :)


Must be nice to be you, you can make all sorts of claims (people are liars) and then when you're questioned you can't be bothered.

All you have convinced anyone of is that your credibility is ZERO and people waste their time listening to you.

yes it is nice to be me! and no i cant be bothered with a question from some one like you that has ZERO CREDIBILITY to listen to either.
you just keep those blinkers on!

[KiWi]

NO thats right Shaun, you cant be F@#$KED with anyone who doesnt have any $$$$$ to build race cars, or has cars that run big power or quick ET's!! Thats why you crap all over the small people in the world ie this forum, and resort to personal attacks, and yes i mean ME and some others.

Im sick of big deep rich pocket people that build big $$$ cars, and treat smaller players like dirt. And we small people try to talk to big players, and get snobbed cause they cant afford to hang around with the big boys.

But hey why bother, im just a small lil player in a big mans world.

I could of gotten another credit card to get my car finished, but why go in to debt just to try and fit in and maybe run a 10.99, its no longer fun for me, cause im not running bolt ons now, and it costs $$$$ to ruin my car :driving:

end rant, LOL back to sweeping floors and driving my forklift beep beep.

Nightshift sux :serenade: :serenade: :serenade: :soap: :banghead:

[hsv-105]

NO thats right Shaun, you cant be F@#$KED with anyone who doesnt have any $$$$$ to build race cars, or has cars that run big power or quick ET's!! Thats why you crap all over the small people in the world ie this forum, and resort to personal attacks, and yes i mean ME and some others.

Im sick of big deep rich pocket people that build big $$$ cars, and treat smaller players like dirt. And we small people try to talk to big players, and get snobbed cause they cant afford to hang around with the big boys.

But hey why bother, im just a small lil player in a big mans world.

I could of gotten another credit card to get my car finished, but why go in to debt just to try and fit in and maybe run a 10.99, its no longer fun for me, cause im not running bolt ons now, and it costs $$$$ to ruin my car :driving:

end rant, LOL back to sweeping floors and driving my forklift beep beep.

Nightshift sux :serenade: :serenade: :serenade: :soap: :banghead:

Sounds like your still carrying a little emotional trauma from your first week at
primary school Kiwi.
It's always hard when a poor little fella is first weaned of his mummy's breast and thrown amongst the big kids.
Just step back and find your little corner in the school yard Kiwi and be content with that patch.

[hsvfreak]

Little Shaun :WTF are you on about ? there has been alot of useful information generated for the readers of this thread with what has been argued.




Where is the useful information ?:cussing:

I dont think the trash you are speaking is useful, Sounds more like personal attacks on certain people who have acheived something better then you? :wave: :wave:

[craigus]

Before this thread gets way off track I thought i'd just say a big congrats to everyone involved in this car. They're achieving what they have set otu to and I hope they get the trophy at summernats!!

All the best fellas

Craigus

[r8ls1]

What happened to the days were people would build a car go race show what they know have a good time? never were those days in adelaide, maybe on a good day. was always someone baggin the next person, his has glass panels, his got hidden N0s, his got a 60k engine, i saw his car on the side of the road broken down, i could go own for centuries with made up stories.

Adelaide is a small country town run by sapol and 10 of their mates where everyone gets to belittle the next bloke and nothing gets done about it, so what happens is people form an ego of monster proportions to counteract it all. some of these people with the ego and attacks they get away with if they were like that in the east they may well of pissed of the wrong person and been chop chop. In SA, monkey it up, no body gets touched without everyone knowing about it so people can behave like its back in the caveman days. ive had freaks next to me countless times wanting to start club lock fights at the lights when my car was new, breath on em and you get locked up. my brother used to work at adelaide's only ferrari dealer and they couldnt test drive em without people starting fights, even the cops got in on the action. australia may have some tall poppy, but adelaide ices the cake with its sick puppy hater behaviour.

Oh yeah Kiwi dont feel bad mate, 5000+ youngsters leave SA for the eastern states yearly with numbers rising because of this kind of megalomaniac control freak small town everyone knows everyone and can control everyone mentality. The 50 + year old cocaine freaks who run the town will 'over crack' it. Adelaide will reap what it sows, just like always, life reaches an equilibrium and cycles. Many cities covered in gold get wrecked.

In 4 years on this forum, arguments have nearly always been started from someone in the south? Just think back, go back, and look at whats been the cause of every post on here turning to sh*t. 'It's all fun' or 'were just keeping it honest' is all just a bullsh*t front to cover up their hating.

HOWS THIS GOT TO DO WITH DRAG RACING :lmao:

[Justice R8]

NO thats right Shaun, you cant be F@#$KED with anyone who doesnt have any $$$$$ to build race cars, or has cars that run big power or quick ET's!! Thats why you crap all over the small people in the world ie this forum, and resort to personal attacks, and yes i mean ME and some others.

Im sick of big deep rich pocket people that build big $$$ cars, and treat smaller players like dirt. And we small people try to talk to big players, and get snobbed cause they cant afford to hang around with the big boys.

But hey why bother, im just a small lil player in a big mans world.

I could of gotten another credit card to get my car finished, but why go in to debt just to try and fit in and maybe run a 10.99, its no longer fun for me, cause im not running bolt ons now, and it costs $$$$ to ruin my car :driving:

end rant, LOL back to sweeping floors and driving my forklift beep beep.

Nightshift sux :serenade: :serenade: :serenade: :soap: :banghead:

Kiwi
You seem to have so much built up anger there, or is it the wrong time of the month. I know my partner is all fiesty like this at that special time of the month. I normally just hide and wait the week out.

I dont think big shaun is making money the big issue here. Yes he has no doubt invested a lot of money into his racing but I dont see him pissing on the small people like you and I as you have mentioned. He is asking questions (and throwing the odd insult) but how far would this thread have got if he hadnt jumped in. I think it is great that the Big boys like VX SS, Big Shaun, HSV105 and Higgans etc spend the big bucks to make power and go fast. Call them dyno queens, track warriors, cheque book racers or whatever, but their development helps us all go faster. Remember when cracking a 12 was a big thing with an ls1, then cracking an 11 was big. Now when someone runs a high 10 people say what's wrong. Its called progress and it costs lots of money. Going fast or making power is not cheap no matter who says different.

PS your reference to you being a small player is a bit harsh and far from the truth. You have run some very good times with your car on a very limited budget over the years which takes a whole lot of effort and skill without bucket loads of money. People should all race to a budget and run the times they can afford. thats why I have only run 11.8 and ran it once.

PPS
You are extremely harsh on a car and as seen at Heathcote went out with an attitude to destroy it which you acheived. Attitudes like that cost a lot of money

[RedVYIISS]

He is asking questions (and throwing the odd insult) but how far would this thread have got if he hadnt jumped in.

Too true.... and anyone who's been a member of LS1 for more than a few months will know Shaun's style.... he doesn't mind confrontation in the slightest, will ask the most embarasing of questions, couldn't give a 'rats' what you, I or anyone else thinks, will never get a job as a writer, wouldn't know what the word 'diplomacy' means.... but when questioned, will always give an answer if he has one worth giving.

The long and short... "a colourful character" who adds to the community, just be wary if you have 'thin skin'!!!!

[KiWi]

Hence why i am broke, trying to play with the big boys, that blow big $$$$ on their cars, and dont think twice, cause they can afford it. the only problem i have is when they think they are too good for the average joe, and let their attitudes and the way they treat ppl, in person and on this forum show it!!!

Jealous..... NO
Pissed off.... YES
Having a sook...... NO
Expressing an opinion, slightly based on experience.... HELL FVCKIN YES!!!!

Yes Im on my rags, partly cause i cant attend the Nats, and cause i cant afford to try and go quicker the 11.00. hence why im entering my 15 sec ute in the LS1 outlaws, to at least make an effort to attend this great event, and catch up with the average JOE, of the LS1 community.

now i will sit back, and get told im sooking and complaining how crap my life is from someone/some people........................ tick tock tick tock

[hsv-105]

Hence why i am broke, trying to play with the big boys, that blow big $$$$ on their cars, and dont think twice, cause they can afford it. the only problem i have is when they think they are too good for the average joe, and let their attitudes and the way they treat ppl, in person and on this forum show it!!!

Jealous..... NO
Pissed off.... YES
Having a sook...... NO
Expressing an opinion, slightly based on experience.... HELL FVCKIN YES!!!!

Yes Im on my rags, partly cause i cant attend the Nats, and cause i cant afford to try and go quicker the 11.00. hence why im entering my 15 sec ute in the LS1 outlaws, to at least make an effort to attend this great event, and catch up with the average JOE, of the LS1 community.

now i will sit back, and get told im sooking and complaining how crap my life is from someone/some people........................ tick tock tick tock

Poor old KIWI keep ya chin up mate, Maybe time for a group hug hey.

:bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: :bawl:

[SchrgdVSV6]

He is asking questions (and throwing the odd insult) but how far would this thread have got if he hadnt jumped in.
Can you or Shaun elaborate on the questions part please? Im not familiar with the behind the scenes drama/hating on this forum, but it sounded like he raised the BS flag on the power made using only 25psi (compared to some other engine)? After that it went off track a bit and I missed the points he was trying to make.

[STATIE]

now i will sit back, and get told im sooking and complaining how crap my life is from someone/some people........................ tick tock tick tock

KiWi,
shut up, stop sooking and complaining about how crap your life is.:flip3:


Wern't you a founding member of PMRacing?






Well done HPF and Garry - awesome power.:thumbsup:

[r8ls1]

The long and short... "a colourful character" who adds to the community, just be wary if you have 'thin skin'!!!!
A brainwashed sheep comment if I ever saw one.

Here's how it looks to the not brainwashed sheep....

Someone used their years of knowledge bolted on a turbo the size of fat hughies dinner plates and made 1200rwhp on pump fuel, posted the result, and someone on here isnt happy cause they are scared they wont be king of the castle.

[Justice R8]

Hence why i am broke, trying to play with the big boys, that blow big $$$$ on their cars, and dont think twice, cause they can afford it. the only problem i have is when they think they are too good for the average joe, and let their attitudes and the way they treat ppl, in person and on this forum show it!!!

Jealous..... NO
Pissed off.... YES
Having a sook...... NO
Expressing an opinion, slightly based on experience.... HELL FVCKIN YES!!!!

Yes Im on my rags, partly cause i cant attend the Nats, and cause i cant afford to try and go quicker the 11.00. hence why im entering my 15 sec ute in the LS1 outlaws, to at least make an effort to attend this great event, and catch up with the average JOE, of the LS1 community.

now i will sit back, and get told im sooking and complaining how crap my life is from someone/some people........................ tick tock tick tock

You're not sooking, your'e stating you're opinion which is good and what makes the forum what it is. Its all about fun and I am glad you are coming as you are always one of the colourful characters of the LS1 nats. It's people like yourself that put the fun into the types of events. Maybe we could have you as the roving reporter doing some interviews.

As far as blowing $$$ to keep up with the big boys, dont bother as there will always be someone with deeper pockets. The guys like HSV 105, VX SS, Higgans, big shaun do what they do for their own enjoyment and not to keep up with the jones's. Each are at the top end of their game. ie HSV105 is quick on the circuit, VXSS is in the top end of competition class for HP Hero, Big Shaun in his blown street car, Higgans in his N/A street car. These are guys to be admired, not insulted for their efforts in pushiing the boundries. They go out there and like the Nike ad says, Just do it, without the cheer squads and the like. They acheive without malice, as r8ls1 said, they have all the knockers in the world but continue to strive for more.

Its a sad inditement that we see so much rubbish that would have been worthy of one post before being deleted 3 years ago, yet now get a million cheersquad replies patting on the back and myth become fact all due to the fact that the cheersquads will continue to yell anyone down those that dare question them. This makes the acheivers not want to post. Use Higgins quick times as an example. Each time one of us has posted his results up, it gets a couple of hits, that is until big shaun takes a swipe and then it starts firing. What Hiiggans acheives with his 9sec N/a ute is an awsome effort but always gets overshadowed by useless threads. It wont be long until we see I changed my air freshener and picked up 7rwkw with 50 hits and everyone rushing out to buy one as fantasy will be portayed as fact.

Although shaun may be off track in this thread a little or a lot, I understand why he gets upset that keyboard warriors that dont put their money where their mouth is, have a crack at him. Its like me walking up to the boss of telstra saying your farked at running telecomunications yet I have never tried to do it and my experience in telecomunications goes as far as making a phone call. People read something on the internet and believe it and become an instant expert. I am not referring to you Kiwi as you have done plenty of hard yards and associate with people like Higgins and see what is fact and what is fiction. If you posted what you know (facts) you could probably destroy half the people on this forum. What Shaun and Tuna have done with his car will be on show at the Nats for all to see, not hidden behind the keyboard, just like VXSS was at Powercruise last weekend for all to see.

As far as VXSS goes, he's as honest as the day is long and doesnt hide any of his disasters. His last blow up was like an aussie having a root, he couldnt wait to call and tell me. Many look at the glass is half empty. Garry looks at it being half full. A blow up to garry is not a disaster, its a learning curve and I for one would like to thank both VX SS and HPF for sharing their experience and not just hiding it away. It helps us all.


Can you or Shaun elaborate on the questions part please? Im not familiar with the behind the scenes drama/hating on this forum, but it sounded like he raised the BS flag on the power made using only 25psi (compared to some other engine)? After that it went off track a bit and I missed the points he was trying to make.


Good point but, Shaun called Bullshit and VX SS and HPF answered it with fact just like it would in any courtroom in Australia. The key is if someone does something that seems incredible like HPF and VX SS has done, people always question it. Thats a fact, whether it is sniggering behind the scenes which is most common and a softcock approach with innuendos or will come out and raise the BS Flag unitl it is backed up.

THe BS flag has been raised and well answered.

Everyone needs to remember, just because someone hasnt done it themselves, it doesnt mean it cant be done as proven BY VXSS

[BIG Shaun]

NO thats right Shaun, you cant be F@#$KED with anyone who doesnt have any $$$$$ to build race cars, or has cars that run big power or quick ET's!! Thats why you crap all over the small people in the world ie this forum, and resort to personal attacks, and yes i mean ME and some others.

Im sick of big deep rich pocket people that build big $$$ cars, and treat smaller players like dirt. And we small people try to talk to big players, and get snobbed cause they cant afford to hang around with the big boys.

But hey why bother, im just a small lil player in a big mans world.

I could of gotten another credit card to get my car finished, but why go in to debt just to try and fit in and maybe run a 10.99, its no longer fun for me, cause im not running bolt ons now, and it costs $$$$ to ruin my car :driving:

end rant, LOL back to sweeping floors and driving my forklift beep beep.

Nightshift sux :serenade: :serenade: :serenade: :soap: :banghead:

WTF are you on about PIWI, where did this come from.

I DONT HAVE BIG DEEP RICH POCKETS as you put it! i have a strong passion for cars, yes i may have built a car. a car i probably really cant afford as i should be investing this money in my future but hay you only live once.
IM SURE HALF OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM HAVE AS MUCH MONEY IF NOT MORE THAN ME they just choose to invest it differantly (or maybe a controlling wife).

"ITS NOT MY FAULT IF YOUR A LOSER PIWI" didnt your parents ever teach you that your financal foundation is to buy a house, before anything else.

I KNOW HOW TO PUSH YOUR BUTTONS PIWI, just like youve been pushing mine for 2 years.:yahoo:

[Justice R8]

i never said i doubted the "performance" of marks car! and yes it was a awsome acheivement "I IDOLISED THAT CAR" i was sorry to here that i would probably never see it run again.



Can you elaborate here BShaun. I am sure you will be seeing that car run, maybe not in the same colour, but I am sure it will run again real soon. Ill try and snap a few shots this afternoon just to ease your cravings whilst its at the paint shop.

[r8ls1]

You're not sooking, your'e stating you're opinion which is good and what makes the forum what it is. Its all about fun and I am glad you are coming as you are always one of the colourful characters of the LS1 nats. It's people like yourself that put the fun into the types of events. Maybe we could have you as the roving reporter doing some interviews.

As far as blowing $$$ to keep up with the big boys, dont bother as there will always be someone with deeper pockets. The guys like HSV 105, VX SS, Higgans, big shaun do what they do for their own enjoyment and not to keep up with the jones's. Each are at the top end of their game. ie HSV105 is quick on the circuit, VXSS is in the top end of competition class for HP Hero, Big Shaun in his blown street car, Higgans in his N/A street car. These are guys to be admired, not insulted for their efforts in pushiing the boundries. They go out there and like the Nike ad says, Just do it, without the cheer squads and the like. They acheive without malice, as r8ls1 said, they have all the knockers in the world but continue to strive for more.

Its a sad inditement that we see so much rubbish that would have been worthy of one post before being deleted 3 years ago, yet now get a million cheersquad replies patting on the back and myth become fact all due to the fact that the cheersquads will continue to yell anyone down those that dare question them. This makes the acheivers not want to post. Use Higgins quick times as an example. Each time one of us has posted his results up, it gets a couple of hits, that is until big shaun takes a swipe and then it starts firing. What Hiiggans acheives with his 9sec N/a ute is an awsome effort but always gets overshadowed by useless threads. It wont be long until we see I changed my air freshener and picked up 7rwkw with 50 hits and everyone rushing out to buy one as fantasy will be portayed as fact.

Although shaun may be off track in this thread a little or a lot, I understand why he gets upset that keyboard warriors that dont put their money where their mouth is, have a crack at him. Its like me walking up to the boss of telstra saying your farked at running telecomunications yet I have never tried to do it and my experience in telecomunications goes as far as making a phone call. People read something on the internet and believe it and become an instant expert. I am not referring to you Kiwi as you have done plenty of hard yards and associate with people like Higgins and see what is fact and what is fiction. If you posted what you know (facts) you could probably destroy half the people on this forum. What Shaun and Tuna have done with his car will be on show at the Nats for all to see, not hidden behind the keyboard, just like VXSS was at Powercruise last weekend for all to see.

As far as VXSS goes, he's as honest as the day is long and doesnt hide any of his disasters. His last blow up was like an aussie having a root, he couldnt wait to call and tell me. Many look at the glass is half empty. Garry looks at it being half full. A blow up to garry is not a disaster, its a learning curve and I for one would like to thank both VX SS and HPF for sharing their experience and not just hiding it away. It helps us all.


Good point but, Shaun called Bullshit and VX SS and HPF answered it with fact just like it would in any courtroom in Australia. The key is if someone does something that seems incredible like HPF and VX SS has done, people always question it. Thats a fact, whether it is sniggering behind the scenes which is most common and a softcock approach with innuendos or will come out and raise the BS Flag unitl it is backed up.

THe BS flag has been raised and well answered.

Everyone needs to remember, just because someone hasnt done it themselves, it doesnt mean it cant be done as proven BY VXSS

Mate thats all well and good to say over and over as you do but from a perspective of someone (me) who doesnt care to be part of it all anymore and just wants to read the forums sometimes (its a free country) and wanting to read a post and then see someone enter with their insults when someone posts a result. You may see it as questioning and entertainment, cool, others sometimes get sick of seeing it all time which is why I said what I did about adelaide :lmao:

[csv rulz]

Can everyone get back on topic.

This was a good thread to read up until all the school girl bickering started.

[BIG Shaun]

Can you elaborate here BShaun. I am sure you will be seeing that car run, maybe not in the same colour, but I am sure it will run again real soon. Ill try and snap a few shots this afternoon just to ease your cravings whilst its at the paint shop.

i dont want to involve myself with the politics of what happened with this car, But as far as seeing it ever run again, ive often though if it was to come back in the scene with a new owner it probably will have a completely different engine combo. this would make it just another boring number in super sedan.

SOME PICS WOULD BE AWSOME




now i will sit back, and get told im sooking and complaining how crap my life is from someone/some people........................ tick tock tick tock

If your life is as crap as you keep telling us it is, WHY DONT YOU GET OFF YOUR ASS AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING: EG... your late for work every morning cos you get up at 6:45 when you start work at 7:00,
in order to be at work on time you have to "CHANGE WHAT YOU ARE DOING" get up earlier, NOT WING COS ITS NOT FARE IM ALWAYS LATE.

so while you keep plodding along PIWI doing the same thing , day in day out of your life your going to get the same "RESULT"

YOU MAKE YOUR OWN LUCK PIWI!!!!!!!!!!

[RedVYIISS]

A brainwashed sheep comment if I ever saw one

A very lame insult if I ever saw one. If you're going to bother attempting to insult people, may I suggest some time spent at the BIG Sean school of Hissyfits and Taunts may well help your cause.

DH, in case you haven't noticed, you get all high and mighty about Sean's antics... then go and emulate them.

Have a nice day,
may I suggest the other side of the bed tomorrow.

[r8ls1]

A very lame insult if I ever saw one. If you're going to bother attempting to insult people, may I suggest some time spent at the BIG Sean school of Hissyfits and Taunts may well help your cause.

DH, in case you haven't noticed, you get all high and mighty about Sean's antics... then go and emulate them.

Have a nice day,
may I suggest the other side of the bed tomorrow.
Yes sorry mate, that was a bit direct :p Its all good, I apologise. Im not like them, when I see results by people having a good time who do their thing I am anything but in peoples face. Has anyone on here ever seen me attack anyones results? I said back in 2000 that the ls1 pcm needed to be hacked to get results and I got attacked back then bigtime, I also said a torque converter would work, attacked again. I WAS TRYING TO HELP MAKE OUR CHOICE OF VEHICLES LOOK GOOD AT THE TIME FOR NO FINANCIAL BENEFIT, BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS SAYING THEYRE CRAP AND I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO MOD AND RACE AN LS1 AND KNEW WHAT THEY WERE CAPABLE OF. BUT I NOW REALISE THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO PEOPLE.

I dont need to prove myself to anyone on here, seeya :)

[mrG]

well done gazza i must say i am happy to have seen it make almost 1200 rwhp after all we went through to get it there. cant wait to see the 1500 tho. I must say that i am a little disappointed to see that people are criticising this project but i guess you will always get magazine mechanics.

[VX SS]

Hers some of MR Gs work
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/DSC00033.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/DSC00034.jpg

[Plan B]

Very nice mrG :thumbsup:

[joffa]

A work of automotive art!

[UTE FORCE]

A work of automotive art!

Absolutely,cars like VX SS's are the cars that get me to the Nats,sure my car has decent power but this thing is a madman:headbang:

[vhls2]

Awesome results there HP-F, well done:thumbsup:

[HRT.2FAST]

Yes very nice

Good to see it has been a fairly smooth road to get it all together

[mrG]

I must say thanx to Gary and Rob for the opportunity to build such a monster, and all the guys i work with who make hp-f and amberley autos a fantastic place to work.

[monarocv8r]

Umm wasnt this thread about a BLO 402?? Now it has blown out to a big bitch fight about different opinions... the numbers are on your screen, read them and if you want to complain go on a different site, yous cocksuckers wouldnt like it if everyone criticised your cars!!

[ccclv]

Hers some of MR Gs work
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/DSC00033.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/GTBMad/DSC00034.jpg

cant wait to see this machine at the nats!! TOP effort to HPF and VXSS

check it out, the cross over pipe goes around the front of the engine, that in its self is an achievement!!

next time your under the bonnet of your commy just have a look at how much room there really is up the front.....not much.

To get a pipe of that size through there is an achievement!!!

Hey VXss,

How has the steering been done? does it still run a power assisted rack?

and

How much room is there for the dump pipe to go past the chassie rail?

Would love a pic of that area!

Is the exhaust manifold made from Schedule 10, or 40 pipe? or something else?



I see Turbonetics are branching in to the aust market, there are a few cars getting around doing some big things with these turbos



here is the QIKINK rodeo now with a turbonetics turbo making 600? rwkw through a v6



http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/ccclv_2006/1000383st1.jpg



how about the green HQ "elvis" is it called? turbonetics again




http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/ccclv_2006/HQ_in_streetmachine_small.jpg



and one of our favorites, usuing turbonetics once again....



http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g196/ccclv_2006/D369.jpg




a pattern forming with all these and heaps more cars over in the states is they are all punching out big numbers usuing turbonetics turbo chargers.


Whats the most power someone has seen from a garrett turbo?

Id be interested to see how they compare to the turbonetics range, in price aswell?


Sorry for the long post, but hope it helps get the thread back on topic instead of a negative argument

[VX SS]

There is a 3 inch crossover pipe that goes across front of motor, we had to run a 25 underdrive pulley for clearance..

The chassis had to be modified for the 5 inch dump to clear it was scalloped and plated.

We have power steering with original rack but it is run from a seperate dc pump mounted in boot.

[RetroTuner]

Congrats to all involved...hopefully with the coming of the LSx block and new heads to suit we will see 40psi pumped into a 525cui LSX.....

[427]

I stop by and read some of your postings once in awhile, and I must say this one has some interesting info about my engine that is not even close to right. Even though the posting is old I feel compelled to respond.
My Casper engine was put together once and ran engine dyno and all its track runs without ever coming apart except to change head gaskets 4 times. I never took any parts out of the short block until recently when I decided to upgrade the basic engine for more power. We did break rear axle and trans parts quite often in our quest to run the first 6 second pass with a LS engine.
I now have a 6 bolt per cylinder Dart block and have modified my original heads to run 6 bolts. If I had more money to spend, I would change to newer square port heads, but my cathedral port heads are pretty good and I already own them!!
I have changed the crank also to go with the bigger bore, so 396ci will now live under the heads. The engine will be used in a 4th gen Camaro with 10.5W tires in our local racing series and we hope to be competetive with all the SB chevys and Fords with our LS engine.
For those of you pushing the limits of the LS, I salute you as a kindered spirit. Keep pushing guys!!!


Kurt