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crtx
19-03-2007, 11:42 AM
Guys,

Went to test the lsd the other night and noticed that only 1 wheel wants to spin? Whats the go??
In the wet no worries both wheels and when it chirps 2nd it kicks out like LSD but when testing if both wheels spin on the spot she only leaves 1 line?

Are the LSD in the VZ Weak or something? What would it cost for new 3.9's and a LSD re-shim/rebuild. Car is a M6

Located Sth Eastern Suburbs.

Thanks

VU_SS_UTE
19-03-2007, 12:01 PM
Are the LSD in the VZ Weak or something?

All the Holden ones arent that great, even if you get it shimmed eventually it'll be one-wheeling again.

I thinks its Limited Sometimes Diff when it comes to the Holden options...

L98-SSV
19-03-2007, 12:05 PM
Clutch plates in the diff are worn i reckon.
Did you buy the car new?
If not, maybe the previous owner was a bit heavy on the right foot.
Because being a vz it should still be good ud think??

Brendo84
19-03-2007, 12:13 PM
my vz has only laid one strip since i started trying at 3000kms

out the front of me house is duel strips that go half way down me street from me mates F6

Angelo_XLR8
19-03-2007, 12:17 PM
my ol VX ss laid duals easy as

vyssbeast
19-03-2007, 12:20 PM
straight line shouldnt be a problem at all ... its round corners that the POS starts singling out ... mainly turning right ... turning left results in oversteer :driving:

ace078
19-03-2007, 01:57 PM
Mine goes single on left turns aswell, but befor you even get close to straight it kicks the other wheel in:driving:

Adrian6T
19-03-2007, 02:04 PM
My brothers VZ Club does the same. A friend of mine works at holden and apparently they only torque the plates in the diff to 40 something NM. Its in the specs. Around 75 NM will get it going.

Y do they do this for, i dont know.

alto
19-03-2007, 02:25 PM
LSD is the weak link but I suspect that holden have done this intentionally

ps careful what you say on a public forum guys

BLQWN
19-03-2007, 02:46 PM
Guys,

Went to test the lsd the other night and noticed that only 1 wheel wants to spin? Whats the go??
In the wet no worries both wheels and when it chirps 2nd it kicks out like LSD but when testing if both wheels spin on the spot she only leaves 1 line?

Thanks

Tell them you want it fixed under warranty ;)

crtx
19-03-2007, 03:10 PM
well,

I bought it 2nd hand one lady owner from a dealership its a 2004 model i have to get this checked or rebuilt holden wont do much i don't think if its weak from the start to begin with.

vyssbeast
19-03-2007, 03:16 PM
Yeh my warrenty is coming to an end soon ... what do i say to them??

VU_SS_UTE
19-03-2007, 03:28 PM
Yeh my warrenty is coming to an end soon ... what do i say to them??

This is how I know they will have to replace it, although I dunno how you'd go without a towbar. A guy down here just said he tows his boat with it and that when the boat ramp is wet it spins one wheel instead of driving both and thats the reason he got an SS with an LSD to begin with...

BLQWN
19-03-2007, 03:41 PM
Will put the boat theory forward on Thursday when my ute goes in, will be hard not to smirk though.

Crusty
19-03-2007, 03:45 PM
My VY Clubsport lays 2 in a straight line and sometims reverts to 1 when turning right, I think I remember reading about friction modifyer additives you can put in the diff to increase the effects of the LSD? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Souljah
19-03-2007, 03:48 PM
Mine single spins around left hand corners. Go right however and its a different story :D

Brendo84
19-03-2007, 03:49 PM
well,

I bought it 2nd hand one lady owner from a dealership its a 2004 model i have to get this checked or rebuilt holden wont do much i don't think if its weak from the start to begin with.


how many one lady owner cars do you hear of when you buy a car.

how many ladies do you know that buy a brand new ss

FatBoy
19-03-2007, 03:56 PM
Mine must be semi retired as it only lights up both 3 days a week. The other 4 days it dog legs like a an old VN...

The car is just over 18 months old, and has 20,000kms. Luckily i've just added a towbar and will be getting Holden to have a look at it (which is probably all the will actually do !!) at the next service...

I was going to mention to them on sandy ramps it does do single leggers, for some reason i didn't even think to just mention wet ramps. D'oh !! :idea:

BLKVYSS
19-03-2007, 05:26 PM
My VY Clubsport lays 2 in a straight line and sometims reverts to 1 when turning right, I think I remember reading about friction modifyer additives you can put in the diff to increase the effects of the LSD? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes you are correct.. can can get different diff oil as well as additives with increase the LSD effect.. obviously not as much as a re-shim or what not..

had the LSD in my Calais Built to withstand 800HP.. and shimmed to the maximum they could.. she double spins and sits out no worries.. it'a a VT diff in the VP.. might go back to the place and see what specs they built it to and see if it will fit in the VY.. do a swappie :)

crtx
19-03-2007, 06:19 PM
how many one lady owner cars do you hear of when you buy a car.

how many ladies do you know that buy a brand new ss

Yes true that who knows

Well i got a service due not at holden thursday ill have to book the car in with holden sometime soon and get them to check it out with the boat theory works well since i got a towbar and do tow my bikes occasionaly

grubb
19-03-2007, 09:18 PM
Guys,

Went to test the lsd the other night and noticed that only 1 wheel wants to spin? Whats the go??
In the wet no worries both wheels and when it chirps 2nd it kicks out like LSD but when testing if both wheels spin on the spot she only leaves 1 line?

Are the LSD in the VZ Weak or something? What would it cost for new 3.9's and a LSD re-shim/rebuild. Car is a M6

Located Sth Eastern Suburbs.

Thanks

Got Vz ss ute. Mine did the same as yours, from new. Didn't do it every time. But at the drags it did it alot. I got 3.9's and re-shimed. Best thing i did. Cost around $1000 fitted(in Qld). No problems since.(18 months old). Get it done by a respected shop though. Enjoy.

tyson
19-03-2007, 09:19 PM
mine lights up 2 all the time, oversteer left oversteer right. straight line, on brake- so does my mates vz- u shouldent have a problem

Gareth@Willall
19-03-2007, 09:30 PM
Mine lasted 110,000 KM and was still twin wheelin... Till I started to drag it. Put 3.73's in and then had it shimmed and it worked NA at the drags for a few meets. Then I added the turbo and I could get 1 maybe 2 passes before it started single spinning :cussing:

Ive now got a full spool :wave: Lets see that single wheel :thumbsup:

crtx
20-03-2007, 08:19 AM
Got Vz ss ute. Mine did the same as yours, from new. Didn't do it every time. But at the drags it did it alot. I got 3.9's and re-shimed. Best thing i did. Cost around $1000 fitted(in Qld). No problems since.(18 months old). Get it done by a respected shop though. Enjoy.

Cheers Bud,
I think thats the way to go by the time Holden Dick around with it i think ill just be better off getting my 3.91 diff gears and a re-shim.

Thanks All

crtx
23-03-2007, 10:21 AM
Update Guys, Took the car to my mechanic LSD is stuffed at 30,000k.

Car is booked in at Holden for this warranty job hopefully ill have no dramas still got 1yr new car warranty left.

chillicatqld
23-03-2007, 11:40 AM
mate they are stuffed from new! Mine used to get stuck when I would go up a driveway on an angle - would spin the oposite wheel and I had to push it off a couple of times. Holden say this is normal.

had my 3.9's put in and a reshim - now it Limo's the hole way. Spins both wheels left or right turn.... but if you do this too much it will slack off again.

Good luck with Holden - I don't think you will get anywhere...

crtx
23-03-2007, 11:56 AM
mate they are stuffed from new! Mine used to get stuck when I would go up a driveway on an angle - would spin the oposite wheel and I had to push it off a couple of times. Holden say this is normal.

had my 3.9's put in and a reshim - now it Limo's the hole way. Spins both wheels left or right turn.... but if you do this too much it will slack off again.

Good luck with Holden - I don't think you will get anywhere...

Yeah i know reshim doesn't last forever if i can save a few dollars which i don't have atm and get the lsd fixed under warranty why not.

The future probaly looking at getting different lsd maybe kazz or something.

5.7heaven
23-03-2007, 12:13 PM
must be a monday car mate, everyone gets back to work and cant be bothered so there is always a bad batch on mondays....
got an SV8 VZ M6, with stock 3.73.. LSD all day everyday....car is practically a skid machine and it spins around like merry-go-round...car is only 30,000kms old but i reckon the diff has spun about 100,000k's...

crtx
23-03-2007, 02:21 PM
haha yeah i reckon i got a monday maybe tuesday if im lucky.

Just cut fork out money and get dud crap, its like they are made to just last there warranty and break.