Interesting results from Chipmaster Tune on SSV

[peachypete82]

Hi all.

Just gonna post the details of my upgrades, which i am very happy with.

I put on a Tuna CAI on.. which i am NOT happy with, go for Chipmasters version.. Tunas version keeps falling off becase the silicone tubing supplied is not the right size for the MAF so you have to make a spacer and its all too ridgid.. but works when its still on the car!!

Tuna if you have a solution please let me know as its doin my head in!!

Did pacemakers 4 into 1's, 3 inch cats... then go down to 2.5inch x pipe and removed from first muffler and left the rest stock (rear resi and hotdogs). I wanted to gain some HP, but loved it being quiet and looking like a sleeper. Mind you its still got a nice grumble and good top end noise, and compliments the CAI roar very well.

Then the Chipnmaster tune.. and 246 RWKW.. which is about 330 HP. Pretty good results considering its alot quieter then most that have full systems and makes the same amount of HP.

So all in all, its got alot more power then stock, sounds stock on idle and cruse.. then comes to life when your hard on the gas... which is the perfect combo i wanted. I didnt want to turn a reasonably comfortable car into a noisy rattly commodore...

Next will be 3.45's and i should have a high 12 second SSV that you pull up next to at the lights and think is straight from the factory!!!

Will post some pics and sound files soon. I am going to go to the motorplex next week (on the rediculous 2.92 gears) to see how fast it goes, so will post the times too.

[jaykay]

I've had no problem with the ST CAI coming off. Must be how some are fitted ... :werd:

I have also made a bracket up at the cost of $10 and 15 minutes which supports it nicely.

What did your car make stock on Dans dyno ?

JK

[peachypete82]

Well my CAI silicone tubing doesnt fit properly on the maf.. one side of the maf has a smaller diamater then the other, and the supplied silicone tubing it so big so i had to make a adaptor from the additional rubbers that came with the airfilter..

the car made 210 before the tune, which it already had zorst and CAI. I hear they are supposed to have 190 stock... so im pretty happy with the gain

[jaykay]

Well my CAI silicone tubing doesnt fit properly on the maf.. one side of the maf has a smaller diamater then the other, and the supplied silicone tubing it so big so i had to make a adaptor from the additional rubbers that came with the airfilter..

the car made 210 before the tune, which it already had zorst and CAI. I hear they are supposed to have 190 stock... so im pretty happy with the gain
So you made about 20 with zorst and CAI then 36 with tune. Gotta be happy with that....

My silicone tubing seemed to clamp down fine on the smaller side where the MAF is. Maybe the silicone tubing you received slightly bigger in diam... :idea:

[The_Senator]

Then the Chipmaster tune.. and 246 RWKW.. which is about 330 HP. Pretty good results considering its alot quieter then most that have full systems and makes the same amount of HP.

Will post some pics and sound files soon. I am going to go to the motorplex next week (on the rediculous 2.92 gears) to see how fast it goes, so will post the times too.

246RWKW .. Wow.. that's some nice lookin numbers there... Bet you are happy with that.. :driving: My car was always going to pay Dan a visit after it arrives, i can only hope for somewhere close to that!

I'll be down the at the 'plex next Wednesday too, if you PM me what to look for with your car, i'll try and take some nice shots leaving to line for you..

Congrats to you.. And great job, Dan.

[Piffs]

Hi all.

Just gonna post the details of my upgrades, which i am very happy with.

I put on a Tuna CAI on.. which is crap, go for Chipmasters version.. Tunas version keeps falling off becase the silicone tubing supplied is not the right size for the MAF so you have to make a spacer and its all too ridgid.. but works when its still on the car!! Tuna if you have a solution please let me know as its doin my head in..

Did pacemakers 4 into 1's, 3 inch cats... then go down to 2.5inch x pipe and removed from first muffler and left the rest stock (rear resis and hotdogs). I wanted to gain some HP, but loved it being quiet and looking like a sleeper. Mind you its still got a nice grumble and good top end noise, and compliments the CAI roar very well.

Then the Chipnmaster tune.. and 246 RWKW.. which is about 330 HP. Pretty good results considering its alot quieter then most that have full systems and makes the same amount of HP.

So all in all, its got alot more power then stock, sounds stock on idle and cruse.. then comes to life when your hard on the gas... which is the perfect combo i wanted. I didnt want to turn a reasonably comfortable car into a noisy rattly commodore...

Next will be 3.45's and i should have a high 12 second SSV that you pull up next to at the lights and think is straight from the factory!!!

Will post some pics and sound files soon. I am going to go to the motorplex next week (on the rediculous 2.92 gears) to see how fast it goes, so will post the times too.

Is urs an auto? I have seen an auto pull 212rwkw stock n mine M6 pull 225rwkw stock. just seems a little low.

[peachypete82]

246RWKW .. Wow.. that's some nice lookin numbers there... Bet you are happy with that.. :driving: My car was always going to pay Dan a visit after it arrives, i can only hope for somewhere close to that!

I'll be down the at the 'plex next Wednesday too, if you PM me what to look for with your car, i'll try and take some nice shots leaving to line for you..

Congrats to you.. And great job, Dan.
pm sent


Is urs an auto? I have seen an auto pull 212rwkw stock n mine M6 pull 225rwkw stock. just seems a little low.

yeh mine is auto.... and daniel rekons it was a good one to start off with.. i think his had like 180 stock or somethin like that.... id say there would be dyno differences n stuff.. but daniel rekons 210 was a good to start with, and that had CAI and pipes.... so all i can put it down to is dyno differences maybe?

[RED R8]

Is urs an auto? I have seen an auto pull 212rwkw stock n mine M6 pull 225rwkw stock. just seems a little low.

Dans dyno reads on the lower side mine made 241rwkw's on one dyno then 218rwkw's on daniels,the went from 218 on Dans to 276 cam only so probably 290rwkw's on other dyno's.

[jaykay]

Is urs an auto? I have seen an auto pull 212rwkw stock n mine M6 pull 225rwkw stock. just seems a little low.

I think I worked out that about 201 rwkw gives about 270rwhp which is approx 270fwkw (what they are rated to).

So to get 225rwkw stock out of an M6 is about 302rwhp (302fwkw) roughly. I'm confused :confused: Happy dyno or freak motors ? :werd:

My stock M6 with CAI pulled 190rwkw on the same dyno as peachypete82....which sounds reasonable as his with full zorst and CAI pulled an additional 20rwkw..

[EXCESSV]

nice work mate.
246rwkw is a very good figure...especially for an auto

agree with Daz on this one...Dans dyno reads pretty low compared to not only others on this forum but others in perth.
dont know whether its Dans being more accurate or other dynos are more happy than others so i wont comment further as i dont want to start a war of "nothings wrong with our dyno"..
there just is a good amount of difference...

hmmm....going down to motorplex next wednesday hey Paul....hmmm
might have to go down as i have never been and take the new toy...as a spectator this time as it would have just rolled off the showroom. good chance to meet some of the forum guys too

[The_Senator]

I have to kill time somehow - the wait is so hard!

Be good to see some special VE's and other Commodores take to the strip. Good opportunity to get some pic's in too.

See you down there, Dean!

[RED R8]

I have to kill time somehow - the wait is so hard!

Be good to see some special VE's and other Commodores take to the strip. Good opportunity to get some pic's in too.

See you down there, Dean!

I may take mine for a run as well.

[The_Senator]

I may take mine for a run as well.

You know what they say, Daz. The more the merrier! :-)

Should be a good evening, if this cool weather holds..

[Martin_D]

Hey PeachyPete dont remember you buying anything off me.....but my partner just drove hers done the track at Heathcote (never had anything come off in 3000km of driving on it) to 13.07 @ 110mph with our CAI and tune first time she ever went down the track :)
Nice try dude :cool:

[SS Enforcer]

Hi all.


Next will be 3.45's and i should have a high 12 second SSV that you pull up next to at the lights and think is straight from the factory!!!

Will post some pics and sound files soon. I am going to go to the motorplex next week (on the rediculous 2.92 gears) to see how fast it goes, so will post the times too.



Actually I think the 2.92 is perfect with the low ratio a6 auto. Your car should pull a 12 now with what you have .

At the track your car will be pulling hard in 3rd gear 5500 when you go through the traps with the stock gears. with 3.45's it will probably change up to 4th and slow it down a bit.

So far I think there has only been 1 VE with new diff gears go down the track and it ran 14's .

cheers

[JimmyXR6T04]

I think I worked out that about 201 rwkw gives about 270rwhp which is approx 270fwkw (what they are rated to).

So to get 225rwkw stock out of an M6 is about 302rwhp (302fwkw) roughly. I'm confused :confused: Happy dyno or freak motors ? :werd:

My stock M6 with CAI pulled 190rwkw on the same dyno as peachypete82....which sounds reasonable as his with full zorst and CAI pulled an additional 20rwkw..

i'm not sure if 200rwkw would equate to 270fwkw.. i only say this, because my car stock made 192rwkw, and many XRTs are pulling 200rwkw stock, and they're only rated 240-245kw. I thought 270fwkw would pull around 220 in stock trim? isn't that what most of the new SSVs are pulling stock?

Assuming most cars lose between 17-25% through the drive train.. we'll use the figure of 20% for todays purpose.. So if it had 200rwkw, then adding 20% to that, it would be around 240fwkw. Adding 20% to 225rwkw gives 270fwkw. Given these are estimates only, as without an engine dyno, we'll only ever get a rough guide.

Either way, nice result. 246rwkw is 246rwkw, and that's all that matters. Enjoy the new found power :thumbsup:

[EXCESSV]

i'm not sure if 200rwkw would equate to 270fwkw.. i only say this, because my car stock made 192rwkw, and many XRTs are pulling 200rwkw stock, and they're only rated 240-245kw. I thought 270fwkw would pull around 220 in stock trim? isn't that what most of the new SSVs are pulling stock?

Assuming most cars lose between 17-25% through the drive train.. we'll use the figure of 20% for todays purpose.. So if it had 200rwkw, then adding 20% to that, it would be around 240fwkw. Adding 20% to 225rwkw gives 270fwkw. Given these are estimates only, as without an engine dyno, we'll only ever get a rough guide.

Either way, nice result. 246rwkw is 246rwkw, and that's all that matters. Enjoy the new found power :thumbsup:

not trying to be a smart ass but your maths are a little wrong.
if we still stick to the 20% loss you actually take 20% off 270fwkw to get 54kwloss that makes it 216rwkw...

you are using the rwkw figure which is 80% of the actual figure.....
so for the 200rwkw you quoted above...the fwkw = 250 :teach:

[JimmyXR6T04]

not trying to be a smart ass but your maths are a little wrong.
if we still stick to the 20% loss you actually take 20% off 270fwkw to get 54kwloss that makes it 216rwkw...

you are using the rwkw figure which is 80% of the actual figure.....
so for the 200rwkw you quoted above...the fwkw = 250 :teach:

yep, i get where you're coming from.. my bad, close enough though :p

[peachypete82]

Actually I think the 2.92 is perfect with the low ratio a6 auto. Your car should pull a 12 now with what you have .

At the track your car will be pulling hard in 3rd gear 5500 when you go through the traps with the stock gears. with 3.45's it will probably change up to 4th and slow it down a bit.

So far I think there has only been 1 VE with new diff gears go down the track and it ran 14's .

cheers


I soughta know what ya mean, its nice how it drags out in gear cause it actually pulls and keeps on pulling. I also run a VH commo with 4.44's in it (strip car mainly) and with the 3 speed you always just seam to keep punchin the gear but i still rekon with 3.45 the SS will be better. My rev limiter is now at 6500 so it also has more rpm so it should be good. i am also gettin some 20s for it so the outside diameter will be larger and again tallen the current ratio.


Hey PeachyPete dont remember you buying anything off me.....but my partner just drove hers done the track at Heathcote (never had anything come off in 3000km of driving on it) to 13.07 @ 110mph with our CAI and tune first time she ever went down the track :)
Nice try dude :cool:

Hi Tuna

I bought one about 2 months ago, i live in perth. What i found is that the silicone pipe you supply is all one size.. and one side of the maf is smaller than the other (by quite a difference) so i used some of the extra rubber spacers that come with the air filter as a spacer to make a good fit. The problem is it always comes loose. I have now taken it off and just tightened the ovrsize silicone pipe on to the maf ancd hope that it hasnt kinked and leak. It really needs a small amount of reduction in the silicone tube.

Anyway the Chipmaster setup is far better. It has flexible pipe from the throttle body to the maf which is all silicone and it it a 90 degree bend so it stays away from the radiator (which yours rubs against the radiator hose).

Dont take this as a dig at your product, because it looks great and works well, but chipmasters is a little better thought through.

[SS Enforcer]

I soughta know what ya mean, its nice how it drags out in gear cause it actually pulls and keeps on pulling. I also run a VH commo with 4.44's in it (strip car mainly) and with the 3 speed you always just seam to keep punchin the gear but i still rekon with 3.45 the SS will be better. My rev limiter is now at 6500 so it also has more rpm so it should be good. i am also gettin some 20s for it so the outside diameter will be larger and again tallen the current ratio.



I have 20's on mine and the difference between the 18's and 20's is bugger all . Well it's actually 8.8 mm diameter which is 1.3 % , on a ssv the difference will be less than that 7.9 mm or 1.1 % or at 70 mph the difference will be 0.81 mph .

Will be interested in how yours goes with 3.45's on it down the strip I have a gut feeling however that it won't improve your times.

Good luck with it mate.

cheers

[Delco]

Hey PeachyPete dont remember you buying anything off me.....but my partner just drove hers done the track at Heathcote (never had anything come off in 3000km of driving on it) to 13.07 @ 110mph with our CAI and tune first time she ever went down the track :)
Nice try dude :cool:



That must about make it the fastest VE A4 to date , you got a slip for that one , cant find any other mention of it on the forums.

Great time though

[The_Senator]

Just come back from the Motorplex to watch Pete (PeachyPete) run a best time of 13.30 for the night..

Final run was all set for a 13.2, engine cooled, tyres down - and it wheel spun off the line for a 13.5

Great time though - 13.30. Was a pleasure to meet you Pete- great guy and down to earth.. It's close pete - give it another shot!!

Lots of LS1's out.. Even a Nice E Series Clubsport R8 that ET'd at a 12.8 (though i am told it has a cam) - nice vechicle though.. Black with Silver Race Stripe.. Stock E Series R8 (with only 400km on the clock!) ran a 13.33 for it's best run.. DEAD STOCK OFF THE SHOWROOM FLOOR..

Great night all in all..

[SS Enforcer]

I thought it would have had a 12 in it for sure with the mods mine ran a best of 13.46 stock that and was in extreme heat as well. Ok it has a small airbox mod and stock tune. I am definately hoping for a 12 with a tune and the catback on it now.

cheers

[peachypete82]

Well i ran 13.30 as my best time, with a 60 footer of 2.07 and my last pass i upshifted twice from 1st, went 1st to 3rd.. DOH ran 13.5.. and that ran a 60 footer of 1.98 so i rekon the car should be good for a flat 13.2 maybe creep into a high 13.1 but i rekon thats as fast as it will go. Its my first time down with the car and im still finding out how its likes to be driven down. On my last pass i dropped tyre pressures and it went 1 tenth quicker on the 60 footer so with more testing it can only get better and closer to achieveing the perfect pass.

Aparently the SSV autos were the slowest of the ss/hsv bunch being heavy, 2.92 gears and running the auto... aparently the manual ss goes 13.5ish stock and the ssv auto is supposed to be around the 13.8 so that means i would of gone 6-7 tenths faster than stock, and all i have done is headers and cats, cold air and tune which for around a 3k is a great result.

It even still sounds stock on idle and is dead quiet which is a huge bonus because people think they are goin to smoke ya cause its stock, but still goes well enough to keep me happy.

[Delco]

Well i ran 13.30 as my best time, with a 60 footer of 2.07 and my last pass i upshifted twice from 1st, went 1st to 3rd.. DOH ran 13.5.. and that ran a 60 footer of 1.98 so i rekon the car should be good for a flat 13.2 maybe creep into a high 13.1 but i rekon thats as fast as it will go. Its my first time down with the car and im still finding out how its likes to be driven down. On my last pass i dropped tyre pressures and it went 1 tenth quicker on the 60 footer so with more testing it can only get better and closer to achieveing the perfect pass.

Aparently the SSV autos were the slowest of the ss/hsv bunch being heavy, 2.92 gears and running the auto... aparently the manual ss goes 13.5ish stock and the ssv auto is supposed to be around the 13.8 so that means i would of gone 6-7 tenths faster than stock, and all i have done is headers and cats, cold air and tune which for around a 3k is a great result.

It even still sounds stock on idle and is dead quiet which is a huge bonus because people think they are goin to smoke ya cause its stock, but still goes well enough to keep me happy.


Good result mate , I couldnt get my SSV auto to go faster than 14.1 when it was completely stock.

it will take some practice to work out how much stall you can leave the line with and what is the optimium gear change rpm

[SS Enforcer]

Good result mate , I couldnt get my SSV auto to go faster than 14.1 when it was completely stock.

it will take some practice to work out how much stall you can leave the line with and what is the optimium gear change rpm

I found mine ran better when letting it change by itself in power mode. I tried shifting manually but it ran slower. The Auto shifts at 6000 rpm and picks up the next gear at 4000 rpm, I think it probably starts to run out of puff at about 5800 with the stock cam.

I also tried stalling it up and it ran a slower 60' time as a result. best 60' was 2.05 with . These cars are heavy so going to need better rubber to get a sub 1.9 I think.

Anyway good to see the VE's starting to pull some good 1/4 times.

cheers

[Martin_D]

That must about make it the fastest VE A4 to date , you got a slip for that one , cant find any other mention of it on the forums.
Great time though

Got the slips somewhere. The car was run at the LS1 Drag Nationals by my partner Susan, she ran 13.12 on her very first ever run down the track. I got into it the next day and spanked the SSV into a 13.0. Thats full weight (including spare) full tank of fuel, and factory tyres at 32psi. Trap speeds went from 107mph through to 110mph...which we were pretty happy with from a stocker :)
Next up....TT install on it :cool:

[Delco]

Got the slips somewhere. The car was run at the LS1 Drag Nationals by my partner Susan, she ran 13.12 on her very first ever run down the track. I got into it the next day and spanked the SSV into a 13.0. Thats full weight (including spare) full tank of fuel, and factory tyres at 32psi. Trap speeds went from 107mph through to 110mph...which we were pretty happy with from a stocker :)
Next up....TT install on it :cool:


Great times for a A6

[Vulture]

Assuming most cars lose between 17-25% through the drive train.. we'll use the figure of 20% for todays purpose.

Remember the drive train loss is not some set percentage. eg a 500fwkw car does not necessarily loose 125Kw through the drive train (25%).

[RED R8]

I feel proud that I ran a 12.9 with 218rwkw's it seems an allright time.

[Phantom_Menace]

I feel proud that I ran a 12.9 with 218rwkw's it seems an allright time.

was that before the cam? In your current ride it says 276 rwks..
Still a good time though.

[RED R8]

pre cam, it was with a bad tune I started at 13.6 got to 12.9 @ 109mph with a 2.0 60' with 218rwkw's on 19" road tyres.

[jaykay]

pre cam, it was with a bad tune I started at 13.6 got to 12.9 @ 109mph with a 2.0 60' with 218rwkw's on 19" road tyres.
Into the 11's next Daz ..... :idea: