Better ride shocks ???

[RED R8]

I have done a vast search but just can't find any anwers so here is my question..I have lovell superlow springs with standard FE2 shocks that have done 105,000k's and although the ride in my car is not too bad I would love to try and make the ride better if possible.I am contemplating puting in short shocks rear and new struts up front but if I am not going to notice a ride improvement I will spend the $$$ elsewhere.Has anyone gone from what I have to new short shocks if so what are your thoughts.
I have good things about the KYB shocks.

Cheers Daz

[berroca]

mate i too have superlows in mine with the standard shocks, and the ride is pretty rough, was talking to my mechanic the other day and he suggested to me to go the KYB short strokes

this is what he uses and and put on other peoples cars without complaint, i have read good things on them too, so this is what i will be putting on mine in the not to distant future

[RED R8]

mate i too have superlows in mine with the standard shocks, and the ride is pretty rough, was talking to my mechanic the other day and he suggested to me to go the KYB short strokes

this is what he uses and and put on other peoples cars without complaint, i have read good things on them too, so this is what i will be putting on mine in the not to distant future

Keep me posted if you get them Cheers.

[wablacksv8]

Give Wilkenson Suspension in Bayswater a call they know their stuff especially when it comes to setting up Commodores(they do a lot of club and targa setups). They give good advise and won't just point you in an expensive direction. WA Suspension are good too but Wilkenson's know more about Commodores.

[BruteSS]

I have done a vast search but just can't find any anwers so here is my question..I have lovell superlow springs with standard FE2 shocks that have done 105,000k's and although the ride in my car is not too bad I would love to try and make the ride better if possible.I am contemplating puting in short shocks rear and new struts up front but if I am not going to notice a ride improvement I will spend the $$$ elsewhere.Has anyone gone from what I have to new short shocks if so what are your thoughts.
I have good things about the KYB shocks.

Cheers Daz

I have KYB AGX adjustable shocks on my ute and they work a treat.

[UD_LOSE]

I loved the adjustable (externally) Koni shocks that were in my old GTS so much that im about to lash out and get some for the coupe although this time im goin to get shortened shocks as i had to realign springs every time the car was jacked up :cussing:
You could get a real hard firm ride on the street/track and then soften them right up for the dragstrip in all of 30 seconds, well worth the money imho

ohh yeah and Brett from wilko's is the man to see

[SV8VZ]

Good timing with this thread Dazza.

Have been researching shocks myself for the past couple of weeks.
Been to both WA suspension and Wilkinsons - both know their stuff.

Koni reds have been suggested as the best compromise of comfort / performance / handling for a daily driven car that doesn't see too much track work.

They cost approx $1K fitted from either outlet. Koni yellows and Bilsteins are a better shock but are a bit overkill for the road only.

Stepping down a notch you can have KYB's adjustables (are about the same price as Koni reds though).

Then KYB's (with no adjustment) or BOGE.

I've had KYB's on a lowered VN and my wife's lowered VY wagon.
Very good shock in terms of value for money.

Would fit them up to the VZ, but they haven't made a front strut to suit the VZ.

Due to VZ's having a tie rod end on both sides of the sway bar link pin, I can't fit them to the VZ without swapping to VY style link pins.

So I'm undecided about going a grand on the Koni's or $600 on BOGE.
Anyone have experience with BOGE shocks?

[Mungrel]

Ive got Kings SSL in the front of my VU, Im running KYB AGX Adjustable struts up front, and Koni Red Adjustable with Lovels SL in the rear.
Ride is firm without being too rough and handles very well
For the money ive spent, i dont think i could have gotten better bang for buck
Very worth looking into.

[57NIT]

Just had Koni external adjustable (Red ones) and King lows fitted front and rear to a VY wagon, cost $1604 at fulcrum.

[Wonky]

My VZ SS was lowered with King superlows and had KYB short body shocks all round - ride was not as harsh as standard FE2. :yup: I've just bought a full set of KYB short body shocks for a relative's VS for under $400, so nowhere near as expensive as some other options. Boge were actually a fraction cheaper but given I was very happy with the KYB on the VZ I went for them again.

Another option for those prepared to spend just a bit more than others do on Konis etc is Street_Tuna's fully adjustable coilover suspension. $1995 for VE, VT- VZ out soon. See http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=70725

[EXCESSV]

Give Wilkenson Suspension in Bayswater a call they know their stuff especially when it comes to setting up Commodores(they do a lot of club and targa setups). They give good advise and won't just point you in an expensive direction. WA Suspension are good too but Wilkenson's know more about Commodores.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Wilkinsons better than WA Suspensions...thanks for the laugh mate...thats made my year!

anyway back OT...Daz if you want something to improve the ride and not cost you an arm and a leg then KYB shorter shocks are the way.
if you wanna spend $$$ then Koni, Bilstein, etc are the way

personally i would go with the KYB shorter shocks...but thats me

[berroca]

Keep me posted if you get them Cheers.

ordered them today will let ya know when they are on and how it feels

[wablacksv8]

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Wilkinsons better than WA Suspensions...thanks for the laugh mate...thats made my year!

anyway back OT...Daz if you want something to improve the ride and not cost you an arm and a leg then KYB shorter shocks are the way.
if you wanna spend $$$ then Koni, Bilstein, etc are the way

personally i would go with the KYB shorter shocks...but thats me

Whiteline swaybars front 30mm adjustable rear 18mm fixed -fitted:
Wa Suspension $850
Wilkensons $650
You tell me who's ripping who off.

[travyss]

The difference isnt that big and there are a number of factors (although small) which may be factored in:
1) TTY bolts for the front crossmember and rear diff cradle are meant to be replaced
2) Are the proper alignment jigs used when re-installing the crossmembers.

Choosing the cheapest quote is not always the best policy and I have heard some 'rumours' to that affect between those two companies.

I run BOGE (shortened FE2 style) shocks/struts on my superlow/ultralow combination. These were a bargain at under $400 (trade prices essentially). My car is pretty firm and a bit bumpy but that is to be expected with a lowered car (325 mm HTG), stiffer swaybars and some poly bushes too.

Daz - if you want a ride in mine to get a feel for the difference we should be able to arrange something. In return you can take me for a blast in your cammed beasty.

Cheers,
Trav

[RED R8]

The difference isnt that big and there are a number of factors (although small) which may be factored in:
1) TTY bolts for the front crossmember and rear diff cradle are meant to be replaced
2) Are the proper alignment jigs used when re-installing the crossmembers.

Choosing the cheapest quote is not always the best policy and I have heard some 'rumours' to that affect between those two companies.

I run BOGE (shortened FE2 style) shocks/struts on my superlow/ultralow combination. These were a bargain at under $400 (trade prices essentially). My car is pretty firm and a bit bumpy but that is to be expected with a lowered car (325 mm HTG), stiffer swaybars and some poly bushes too.

Daz - if you want a ride in mine to get a feel for the difference we should be able to arrange something. In return you can take me for a blast in your cammed beasty.

Cheers,
Trav

Sounds good mate I am at work all day tommorow or call me on 0413665548 anytime and you can drive mine and I will drive yours..:thumbsup:

[travyss]

Pretty busy during the week but the weekend (saturday?) should be fine. I will give you a buzz later in the week.

Cheers,
Trav

[RED R8]

Pretty busy during the week but the weekend (saturday?) should be fine. I will give you a buzz later in the week.

Cheers,
Trav


Roger that..

[EXCESSV]

Whiteline swaybars front 30mm adjustable rear 18mm fixed -fitted:
Wa Suspension $850
Wilkensons $650
You tell me who's ripping who off.

mate i never said Wilkensons are a rip off...i just laughed at the quote that they are better than WA Suspensions.
Remember that the cheaper price doesnt mean they are better. sure same product but workmanship after sales support and knowledge...well thats another story
and WA suspensions are sick of ppl ringing, getting a price then shopping around to get it cheaper elsewhere.
so now they use the line it will cost you $XXX but if you come in we can look after you better.

i have had and had friends experience pedders, wilkensons & WA Suspensions...all regretted going to others after seeing WA Suspension.
but i aint gonna get in a company bashing here.
if you like Wilkensons then all the best to you mate...me personally i will stick with WA Suspension

[travyss]

I am impressed that they can supply + fit swaybars for $650. The parts must be about $300 with the adjustable front bar and it is a pretty time consuming install (PITA) especially when you factor in an alignment and crossmember check.

Back OT...
The pedders front coilover kit is also worth a look at $600 a corner. I think the main factor in comfort will be the spring choice i.e ride height. Going from a front HTG 340mm -> 325mm makes a pretty substantial difference. In regards to shocks when going between my car (BOGE) and my brothers (KYB) there is not much in it personally. When I bought my BOGE struts/shocks they had just been redesigned (valved) to suit superlow applications and they seem to do the job pretty well. BOGE is also meant to be OEM on some german cars if that makes you feel any better.

Cheers,
Trav

[VFast]

Guys I am in a similar boat to you:

I have had my VYII SS ute for just on 2 years with the lowered springs fitted.

The springs are Lovells with front HTG 330mm and rear HTG 340mm. These figures are about 10mm lower than when the springs where newish, so she has sagged or settled in a bit over this time.

Shocks are std Holden FE2 items.

I have been contemplating for a little while now how to improve the ride comfort or more specifically, the front end suspension travel. Last time I was in at WA Suspensions for a wheel alignment the technician informed me that my suspension travel was only around 15mm or so, which is not a hell of a lot!

I asked them at the time what I could do to increase this as I was sick of the front end travel bottoming out when I drive over those nasty protruding concrete manholes etc in the road which cause a sharp shock to transfer up through the dash and steering wheel, which is not a pleasant feeling.

They recommended that a shorter stroke shock that would increase this travel, but was going to cost around $800 for the front end alone. At that time I wasn't prepared to spend that amount until I had investigated further options.

After some more thought and contemplating I called them today to ask again. They advised that my HTG measurements were on the low end of the scale and that a set of KYB short stroke shocks (non-adjustable) would be the go (the shocks are the items that are limiting the suspension travel in this case). Additionally, they also suggested that I could put in a set of Poly spacers in with the springs if I didn't mind a small increase in ride height. If I went with the shocks only this was going to be a just under $500 fitted, and just over that amount with a full set of 4x spacers as well.

I reckon I could live with a 10-15mm increase in ride height courtesy of the spacers which would bring it up to what it was with the new springs anyway, and the shorter stroke KYB's would improve travel even more and hopefully minimise or even eliminate the dreaded shock through the dash and steering wheel.

They did comment that the KYB's were a reasonably priced shock - I didn't ask about other shock options as I was confident that increasing the suspension travel would resolve the problem.

Some of you might be thinking that the spacers are a bit of a bandaid fix and would prefer to replace the springs with higher spec items. However there is a risk that the ones you put in may not provide the ride height that you wanted. I feel that it is better to work with what you have already got and just add in a spacer which will guarantee the correct height.

[NefariousLS1]

I ran kyb short stroke's in the font and rear of my vs before i sold it and they were unreal i was on SSL king springs and it was rough as guts before i had them dropped in and as smooth as a standard vs once it was sorted. I have to get a set in the front of the ss when i get a chance to sort it out and make it drive like it should. Hope this can help u decide what your doing.

[wablacksv8]

mate i never said Wilkensons are a rip off...i just laughed at the quote that they are better than WA Suspensions.
Remember that the cheaper price doesnt mean they are better. sure same product but workmanship after sales support and knowledge...well thats another story
and WA suspensions are sick of ppl ringing, getting a price then shopping around to get it cheaper elsewhere.
so now they use the line it will cost you $XXX but if you come in we can look after you better.

i have had and had friends experience pedders, wilkensons & WA Suspensions...all regretted going to others after seeing WA Suspension.
but i aint gonna get in a company bashing here.
if you like Wilkensons then all the best to you mate...me personally i will stick with WA Suspension

I don't have any issues with eithers workmanship as i have used both. I have heard bad stories from each, but I have only no problems with either, my car and my girlfriends have both been to WA suspension for work. It was only an observation in the knowledge of the holden suspension setup of both places.

[SV8VZ]

Well I've had KYB short stroke struts and Boge Turbo short stroke shocks fitted up for about a week now.

Very pleased with the results.
Overall I'd say the KYB's are more compliant and less harsh than the Boge's, but still firm enough.

Boge's are firm, but give a slightly harsher ride. They are a definite inprovement over original FE2 rear shocks for firmness, but I'd say the ride is only fractionally better.

If KYB made a short stroke rear shock, it would be the way to go for me...

All up costs were $260 front, $140 rear, plus $80 for new VY sway bar link pins.

Installed them myself to save a couple of hundred buck. ;)

[Mungrel]

After some more thought and contemplating I called them today to ask again. They advised that my HTG measurements were on the low end of the scale and that a set of KYB short stroke shocks (non-adjustable) would be the go.

Did they give a reason as to why using non-adjustable shocks would be the way to go? I've got Kings SSL in the front of my ute, and KYB Adjustable Struts and i can't imagine using anything else now. The car doesn't bottom out and shudder the steering column and dash like the std FE2 struts do, and the handling is stiff yet still absorbs the bumps.

[RED R8]

I have KYB AGX adjustable shocks on my ute and they work a treat.

I was lucky enough to have (Craig I hope I got your name right) let me take his SS ute for a spin with the KYB adjustables up front and with them set as soft as they could go the ride was much more pleasent than my FE2 shocks.Thanks heaps for the drive and thanks Trav for also offering me ride in his Clubby.:thumbsup:

[BruteSS]

I was lucky enough to have (Craig I hope I got your name right) let me take his SS ute for a spin with the KYB adjustables up front and with them set as soft as they could go the ride was much more pleasent than my FE2 shocks.Thanks heaps for the drive and thanks Trav for also offering me ride in his Clubby.:thumbsup:

No worries mate

[BLOWN_VXSS]

I have King super lows and got my front end done with Koni Yellow adjustable, going a short shock meant they could build in additional suspension travel. The shocks have made a big difference, car handles really well and no more of that body roll I used to get from the standard shocks. With the additional suspension travel I no longer bottom out the front struts.
Amazing what a good set of shocks can do.

[VFast]

Did they give a reason as to why using non-adjustable shocks would be the way to go? I've got Kings SSL in the front of my ute, and KYB Adjustable Struts and i can't imagine using anything else now. The car doesn't bottom out and shudder the steering column and dash like the std FE2 struts do, and the handling is stiff yet still absorbs the bumps.
I think they just quoted the non-adjustable type as a reasonably priced upgrade from the OEM shocks. I am sure that the adjustables would be fine too but he didn't suggest as they were (probably) more $$$ which may not be necessary for what I do with the ute (ie no racing etc).

I was however planning to ask them how both types compare and where the non-adjustable specs sit in comparison to the adjustable.

What is your hub-to-guard measurements front and back?


Well I've had KYB short stroke struts and Boge Turbo short stroke shocks fitted up for about a week now.

Very pleased with the results.
Overall I'd say the KYB's are more compliant and less harsh than the Boge's, but still firm enough.

Boge's are firm, but give a slightly harsher ride. They are a definite inprovement over original FE2 rear shocks for firmness, but I'd say the ride is only fractionally better.

If KYB made a short stroke rear shock, it would be the way to go for me...

All up costs were $260 front, $140 rear, plus $80 for new VY sway bar link pins.

Installed them myself to save a couple of hundred buck. ;)
The KYB website definitely lists a rear shock for lowered utes, but I am not sure if these are short stroke... Sounds a bit strange that they wouldn't when they go to all the effort to make a plug and play strut for the pointy end :werd:


I was lucky enough to have (Craig I hope I got your name right) let me take his SS ute for a spin with the KYB adjustables up front and with them set as soft as they could go the ride was much more pleasent than my FE2 shocks.Thanks heaps for the drive and thanks Trav for also offering me ride in his Clubby.:thumbsup:
Daz/Craig how low is this ute in terms of hub-to-guard measurements - I just want to compare to the height I have in my ute...

Also what type of shocks are in the rear?

Anybody know what the premium for the adjustable type is over the non-adjustable type in a KYB front?

[Mungrel]

I think they just quoted the non-adjustable type as a reasonably priced upgrade from the OEM shocks. I am sure that the adjustables would be fine too but he didn't suggest as they were (probably) more $$$ which may not be necessary for what I do with the ute (ie no racing etc).

I'll measure it tonight when i get home.

Anybody know what the premium for the adjustable type is over the non-adjustable type in a KYB front?

Pm Sent ;)

[BruteSS]

Daz/Craig how low is this ute in terms of hub-to-guard measurements - I just want to compare to the height I have in my ute...

Also what type of shocks are in the rear?

Anybody know what the premium for the adjustable type is over the non-adjustable type in a KYB front?


Bilstiens in the rear. KYB AGX adjustables were about $260 each but I would have to check that and get back to you. Will also get back on hub to guard measurement.

Just checked my receipt the fronts were $ 238 each.

This is a pic of how low my ute sits overall

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m271/CraigGill/DSC00264.jpg

Hub to guard on front is 340mm

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m271/CraigGill/DSC00265.jpg

Hub to guard on rear is 365mm. Ute is empty at the moment but during the week I carry a few kilos around so it sits level then.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m271/CraigGill/DSC00266.jpg

Hope that helps.

Craig

[VFast]

Bilstiens in the rear. KYB AGX adjustables were about $260 each but I would have to check that and get back to you. Will also get back on hub to guard measurement.

Just checked my receipt the fronts were $ 238 each.

This is a pic of how low my ute sits overall

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m271/CraigGill/DSC00264.jpg

Hub to guard on front is 340mm

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m271/CraigGill/DSC00265.jpg

Hub to guard on rear is 365mm. Ute is empty at the moment but during the week I carry a few kilos around so it sits level then.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m271/CraigGill/DSC00266.jpg

Hope that helps.

Craig
Thanks Craig.

Your front is around 10mm higher than mine and rear (unloaded) is around 25mm higher but still looks a nice height whilst being a bit more practical than mine.

I think I will probably go the KYB's at the pointy end together with a set of 10-15mm spacers all round - this will bring it almost the same as yours...

Do you ever have any bottoming out of the front end with this setup?

[Mungrel]

good ride height.
I've got measurements of 320mm HTG up front and 315mm at the rr.

[BruteSS]

Thanks Craig.

Your front is around 10mm higher than mine and rear (unloaded) is around 25mm higher but still looks a nice height whilst being a bit more practical than mine.

I think I will probably go the KYB's at the pointy end together with a set of 10-15mm spacers all round - this will bring it almost the same as yours...

Do you ever have any bottoming out of the front end with this setup?

Never had it bottom out, and it gets driven hard. Also have noltec strut top watchamacalits which lifted the front end back up from where it used to be.

[VFast]

good ride height.
I've got measurements of 320mm HTG up front and 315mm at the rr.

That is pretty damn low Mungrel.

Have you had any bottoming out at the front end with your current setup?


Never had it bottom out, and it gets driven hard. Also have noltec strut top watchamacalits which lifted the front end back up from where it used to be.
Had the std strut top mounts stretched that they needed to be replaced?

Did you notice that the ride was any harsher from the harder polyurethane mounts?

[Mungrel]

That is pretty damn low Mungrel.

Have you had any bottoming out at the front end with your current setup?


Yeah she is pretty low. Its quite odd tho, im yet to bottom out with this setup. But i am pretty cautious where i go.

As soon as i get a new digital camera i'll take some pics and send.
If you look for my thread in my rides section (under mungrel or something lol)
youll see my previous setup, ill get some new ones up asap

[BruteSS]

Had the std strut top mounts stretched that they needed to be replaced?

Did you notice that the ride was any harsher from the harder polyurethane mounts?


No hadnt stretched, just needed the adjustable tops to put more neg camber into the front wheels. The ride is harshish anyway cause I have the struts set quite hard and I run RE55's and they dont have a heap of give in the side walls.

[VFast]

I followed up with WA Suspensions today and found out that the adjustable AGX's are another $265 on top of the $260 non-adjustable units... :eek:

I also asked how the two types compared and was told that the non-adjustable was about the same as the adjustable was at its softest setting, which is also about the same as stock FE2 spec...

Apparently the non-adjustables are good for an extra 20mm in suspension travel.

Looks like I will go for the non-adjustables as I can't justify spending the premium on the AGX's for something that I don't really need.

[R Dirty 3]

I think they just quoted the non-adjustable type as a reasonably priced upgrade from the OEM shocks. I am sure that the adjustables would be fine too but he didn't suggest as they were (probably) more $$$ which may not be necessary for what I do with the ute (ie no racing etc).

I was however planning to ask them how both types compare and where the non-adjustable specs sit in comparison to the adjustable.

What is your hub-to-guard measurements front and back?


The KYB website definitely lists a rear shock for lowered utes, but I am not sure if these are short stroke... Sounds a bit strange that they wouldn't when they go to all the effort to make a plug and play strut for the pointy end :werd:


Daz/Craig how low is this ute in terms of hub-to-guard measurements - I just want to compare to the height I have in my ute...

Also what type of shocks are in the rear?

Anybody know what the premium for the adjustable type is over the non-adjustable type in a KYB front?


Hopefully this will answer some of your questions. The KYB Website do list rear shocks for lowered utes. However what that means is they are suitable to use in a lowered ute, but they are not short stroke (springs will not be captive at full droop depending on heights, and springs of course).
If you look at the front listing, they have 2 numbers available 834001/2 to suit lowered vehicles as they are short body and 334313/4 for standard height vehicle. The standard shock will fit in a lowered car, but ride quality will be fairly ordinary if you know what i mean.
Retail for the standard, or short body KYB is $130 ea Incl GST. The AGX front shocks is $275 ea Incl GST.


Cheers
Brad

[VFast]

Hopefully this will answer some of your questions. The KYB Website do list rear shocks for lowered utes. However what that means is they are suitable to use in a lowered ute, but they are not short stroke (springs will not be captive at full droop depending on heights, and springs of course).
If you look at the front listing, they have 2 numbers available 834001/2 to suit lowered vehicles as they are short body and 334313/4 for standard height vehicle. The standard shock will fit in a lowered car, but ride quality will be fairly ordinary if you know what i mean.
Retail for the standard, or short body KYB is $130 ea Incl GST. The AGX front shocks is $275 ea Incl GST.


Cheers
Brad
Brad thanks for the heads-up.

Are these prices for the fron, or rear shocks?

Where abouts did you get those prices as WA Susp. told me $260 for KYB short stoke front (non-adjustable) and $525 for the adjustable version (I didn't ask about rear end units)?

[R Dirty 3]

Brad thanks for the heads-up.

Are these prices for the fron, or rear shocks?

Where abouts did you get those prices as WA Susp. told me $260 for KYB short stoke front (non-adjustable) and $525 for the adjustable version (I didn't ask about rear end units)?

The prices you were quoted are per pair. The ones i listed was each so that would be where the difference is (Though seems you were quote a bit cheaper on the AGX...salesman brain fade?? ha ha)

The rear shocks as listed in the catalogue for utes is $64 ea ($128 per pair) and for sedans (later models with IRS of course) is $66 ea ($132 per pair) There is also a softer valved shock for the utes if you are looking for comfort over handling. The AGX are not available for the rear of utes (yet) but are for sedans. Cost on those are also $275ea ($550 per pair).
Hope that helps you a little bit more. Need any more info, just let me know and ill see what i can do.

Cheers
Brad

[RED R8]

^^^^^Thanks^^^^^^

[VFast]

The prices you were quoted are per pair. The ones i listed was each so that would be where the difference is (Though seems you were quote a bit cheaper on the AGX...salesman brain fade?? ha ha)

The rear shocks as listed in the catalogue for utes is $64 ea ($128 per pair) and for sedans (later models with IRS of course) is $66 ea ($132 per pair) There is also a softer valved shock for the utes if you are looking for comfort over handling. The AGX are not available for the rear of utes (yet) but are for sedans. Cost on those are also $275ea ($550 per pair).
Hope that helps you a little bit more. Need any more info, just let me know and ill see what i can do.

Cheers
Brad
Ahhhh...Was that you I spoke to you yesterday morning???

So any specials for LS1 forum members? :thumbsup:

My company also has an account with your company if that will get me a better deal? :idea:

[R Dirty 3]

Ahhhh...Was that you I spoke to you yesterday morning???

So any specials for LS1 forum members? :thumbsup:

My company also has an account with your company if that will get me a better deal? :idea:

Could very well of been me. I speak to about 8000 people a day (may be slightly exagerated) so you may have been one them.

We do offer a "Club Discount" for club members. We have nothing officially in place for LS1.com.au but if you make me aware of the fact you are affiliated with this club, I (or any of our sales guys) will pass that discount on to you. If there is any problem from there, feel free to contact me direct.

As for your company having an account with ours etc, thats not really a conversation for here(partly coz i dont know who you are, or where your from :confused: ). If you would like to contact me some time, I can discuss those details further.

Cheers
Brad

I got your PM but can not reply as i have not had enough posts yet ha ha
Will reply soon. (I hope) 3 to go i think.

[VFast]

Could very well of been me. I speak to about 8000 people a day (may be slightly exagerated) so you may have been one them.

We do offer a "Club Discount" for club members. We have nothing officially in place for LS1.com.au but if you make me aware of the fact you are affiliated with this club, I (or any of our sales guys) will pass that discount on to you. If there is any problem from there, feel free to contact me direct.

As for your company having an account with ours etc, thats not really a conversation for here(partly coz i dont know who you are, or where your from :confused: ). If you would like to contact me some time, I can discuss those details further.

Cheers
Brad

I got your PM but can not reply as i have not had enough posts yet ha ha
Will reply soon. (I hope) 3 to go i think.
Cheers Brad...

[Mungrel]

That is pretty damn low Mungrel.

Have you had any bottoming out at the front end with your current setup?


I'd like to change my stance on my current suspension. I just got bogged on my driveway - Yes, my driveway! Had to remove front bar, and then get toed out by my work ute... a F@!d with half a dozen mates helping. Oh the humanity! :( i'll post up some pics shortly, a good reason to test out my new camera :D haha:idea:

On a brighter note, i did a good burnout just beforehand :thumbsup:

here we go - bogged to the diff :P

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/bogged3.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/bogged2.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/bogged1.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/bogged4.jpg

good for a few laughs if nothing else ;)

[VFast]

I'd like to change my stance on my current suspension. I just got bogged on my driveway - Yes, my driveway! Had to remove front bar, and then get toed out by my work ute... a F@!d with half a dozen mates helping. Oh the humanity! :( i'll post up some pics shortly, a good reason to test out my new camera :D haha:idea:

On a brighter note, i did a good burnout just beforehand :thumbsup:

here we go - bogged to the diff :P

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/bogged3.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/bogged2.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/bogged1.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/bogged4.jpg

good for a few laughs if nothing else ;)
A serious case of bottoming out but, it looks like it wasn't the suspension this time...lol :teach:

Is that on the beach or something is it?

[R Dirty 3]

Your driveway looks like a beach with the growth HA HA

Maybe it needa a 4 or 5" lift kit with 32" mud tyres? :headbang:

[Mungrel]

Your driveway looks like a beach with the growth HA HA

Maybe it needa a 4 or 5" lift kit with 32" mud tyres? :headbang:

HAHA! My thoughts exactly, ill pinch mums desert duelers when she gets back! hehe.

Its a shocking driveway, and thats the second half, u should see it from the other angle, steep as on the edge of a cliff! haha.
time to move me thinks! :teach:

[R Dirty 3]

You Idiot!!! Desert duelers wont fit those rims! lol

Federal 595 tyres were never known for they great off road ability huh? lol

[Mungrel]

You Idiot!!! Desert duelers wont fit those rims! lol

Federal 595 tyres were never known for they great off road ability huh? lol

lol apparently not! Who'd have thought eh? Having said that, i only had federals on the front, the back were good ol' bridgestone burnout tyres lol.

In one of my friend's infinite wisdom :idea: he decided to let some air out of the rear tyres in an attempt to un-bog me.. looking at the car this morning i now realise why this was unsuccessful to say the least...

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/low1.jpg

as if 100mm (or less?) isn't enough clearance. Lets let some air out the tires and drop the b*tch even further...:cussing: The idea was there hehe

[VFast]

Well I finally took the plunge and headed up to WA Suspensions where Brad hooked me up with the following gear:
KYB front struts (non-adjustable)
10mm front spacers
Wheel alignmentIn addition to this I also asked Brad about axle tramp remedies. I decided that a good first step would be the diff mount poly insert as it didn't cost a left nut and wasn't going to cause any increase in road noise or vibration levels.

I am still evaluating the setup but will post up here in the next few days after I have had a good chance to try it out on my usual routes to work etc.

Once again, many thanks to Brad for the great service and fitting in the extra work for me:thumbsup:

[RED R8]

Well I finally took the plunge and headed up to WA Suspensions where Brad hooked me up with the following gear:
KYB front struts (non-adjustable)
10mm front spacers
Wheel alignmentIn addition to this I also asked Brad about axle tramp remedies. I decided that a good first step would be the diff mount poly insert as it didn't cost a left nut and wasn't going to cause any increase in road noise or vibration levels.

I am still evaluating the setup but will post up here in the next few days after I have had a good chance to try it out on my usual routes to work etc.

Once again, many thanks to Brad for the great service and fitting in the extra work for me:thumbsup:

Please keep us posted thanks mate.

[Mr CV8]

just had a chat from a guy at pedders he says that you cant put coil overs in the rear of a monaro only the front...


is this true or hes pulling my leg ?

[Mungrel]

Well I finally took the plunge and headed up to WA Suspensions where Brad hooked me up with the following gear:
KYB front struts (non-adjustable)
10mm front spacers
Wheel alignmentIn addition to this I also asked Brad about axle tramp remedies. I decided that a good first step would be the diff mount poly insert as it didn't cost a left nut and wasn't going to cause any increase in road noise or vibration levels.

Whats this diff mount poly insert? is that the insert for the very rr of the diff that also prevents "sqaut"?

[VFast]

Whats this diff mount poly insert? is that the insert for the very rr of the diff that also prevents "sqaut"?
Check out this link (http://www.nolathane.com.au/brochure/page%2022.pdf) Mungrel...

[Mungrel]

Cheers mate,
What sorta $$$ are they if ya dont mind me asking? (PM me if you prefer)

[VFast]

Cheers mate,
What sorta $$$ are they if ya dont mind me asking? (PM me if you prefer)
I am not sure what it ended up costing as the install labour etc was included with the other work.

Maybe Brad (R Dirty 3) could help us out?

[wablacksv8]

Rear diff mount cost is only around $30, the K frame bushes around $200, would cost around 2 hours labour so all up $350 give or take. WA suspension did my K frame bushes and had diff mount done when rear sway bar done.
If you are going to do the rear end bushes then do both the k frame and diff mount together they will help reduce axle tramp greatly.

[Mungrel]

Rear diff mount cost is only around $30, the K frame bushes around $200, would cost around 2 hours labour so all up $350 give or take. WA suspension did my K frame bushes and had diff mount done when rear sway bar done.
If you are going to do the rear end bushes then do both the k frame and diff mount together they will help reduce axle tramp greatly.

I suffer from no axle tramp, would i benefit from the diff mount bush?

[R Dirty 3]

just had a chat from a guy at pedders he says that you cant put coil overs in the rear of a monaro only the front...


is this true or hes pulling my leg ?

Pedders are wrong. What pedders meant is pedders cant do coilovers for the back of your monaro. It is very possible to put adjustable (in hieght and valving) coilovers front and rear. (Technically its not a "coilover" as most would know it, but it is spring seat adjustable for height)
If you would like to see the system, let me know

Cheers
Brad


I suffer from no axle tramp, would i benefit from the diff mount bush?

Yes and no.
You would find that it will certainly help with the life of the rear diff cradle bush, but as they are not prone to wearing (unless violently axle tramping often) i would suggest there would be no significant advantage.
In my opinion, spend your money elsewhere to gain a visible result :)

[Mungrel]

Yes and no.
You would find that it will certainly help with the life of the rear diff cradle bush, but as they are not prone to wearing (unless violently axle tramping often) i would suggest there would be no significant advantage.
In my opinion, spend your money elsewhere to gain a visible result :)

Thanks,
I'll probly put that money towards one of the harrop covers which holds more oil.

[wablacksv8]

I suffer from no axle tramp, would i benefit from the diff mount bush?

I got my diff mount done at time of swaybar so cost was only for bush as labour covered by doing sway bar.

My old k frame bushes were split, I saw them when they came out, totally stuffed so I'm guessing the axle tramp i had caused this. Would this be the case? Anyone know?


Well I finally took the plunge and headed up to WA Suspensions where Brad hooked me up with the following gear:
KYB front struts (non-adjustable)
10mm front spacers
Wheel alignmentIn addition to this I also asked Brad about axle tramp remedies. I decided that a good first step would be the diff mount poly insert as it didn't cost a left nut and wasn't going to cause any increase in road noise or vibration levels.

I am still evaluating the setup but will post up here in the next few days after I have had a good chance to try it out on my usual routes to work etc.

Once again, many thanks to Brad for the great service and fitting in the extra work for me:thumbsup:

What are the spacers for and for what advantage or benefit are they?

Sorry if you have already covered it.

[R Dirty 3]

I got my diff mount done at time of swaybar so cost was only for bush as labour covered by doing sway bar.

My old k frame bushes were split, I saw them when they came out, totally stuffed so I'm guessing the axle tramp i had caused this. Would this be the case? Anyone know?

Yup more than likely!
When the car axle tramps its not only the diff moving around, its the whole crossmember that bounces. So yes, axle tramp will cause the soft spongey rubber holden bushes the fail long before they are due to. Have a close look at the standard bushes on your car, you will see why.





What are the spacers for and for what advantage or benefit are they?

Sorry if you have already covered it.

Spacers are used purely to raise the ride height of a vehicle.

[vyss2ute]

I have done a vast search but just can't find any anwers so here is my question..I have lovell superlow springs with standard FE2 shocks that have done 105,000k's and although the ride in my car is not too bad I would love to try and make the ride better if possible.I am contemplating puting in short shocks rear and new struts up front but if I am not going to notice a ride improvement I will spend the $$$ elsewhere.Has anyone gone from what I have to new short shocks if so what are your thoughts.
I have good things about the KYB shocks.

Cheers Daz

Hey Daz,

If you haven't decided on some shocks yet mate, heres another brand to make your decision harder. They are a shortened heavy duty big bore (60mm) shock designed to improve handling and improve ride harshness in lowered cars. The company that makes them is OZTECH. I spoke with a suspension place on the coast today for a while that sell Monroes, KYB's, Koni, Boge, Bilsteins etc and they highly recommended the OZTECH's for the value for money. For the rear of my ute I was quoted $220 a pair. Unsure who sells them in Perth although.
I pick them up on Monday arvo.
I was guaranteed that if I wasn't happy with the spring/ OZTECH shock combination than he would pull them out and fit the KYB's at no charge for labour.

PM me if you would like any more info.

Adam

[RED R8]

Well i ordered the Koni reds today so next Wednesday I will let you all know how they went.I am doing the fronts first then will do the rears in a couple of weeks when funds arrive, thanks all for your input like anything to do with cars the choice is never easy there are multiple choices and varying opinions but I feel for me the Koni's will suit the comfort I am after.