Sat Nav for VE

[Aspiring Youth]

Hey guys,

Was wanting to get Sat Nav for my SS (pictures up soon, when i find my camera :cussing: ) but was wondering how much is it and can it be installed since i already have my car? The Holden website says like $2000 but surely that must be in other models with no screen. I mean, they cannot justify that without the screen yes?

Thanks.

[EXCESSV]

unfortunately thats right mate....$2K for the factory one even though you have the screen.

there are aftermarket ones that "integrate" with orginal and claim greater features but they are more expensive.

and yes you can put it on even though you have the car...although it might be more expensive than what the holden website quotes if the dealer wants to be a a$$

[Aspiring Youth]

That is an outrage!!! :cussing:

A mate told me that it runs from a dvd. Now i just assumed they programmed it into the computer. If it runs from a dvd does that mean they must install a dvd player? And if so does this mean that dvd player will also show movies through the front screen?

[EXCESSV]

That is an outrage!!! :cussing:

A mate told me that it runs from a dvd. Now i just assumed they programmed it into the computer. If it runs from a dvd does that mean they must install a dvd player? And if so does this mean that dvd player will also show movies through the front screen?
it does run on dvd
the player sits in the glovebox and takes up most of the room there too.
and i dont think you can play dvds from it...maybe there are stereo mobs that have been able to do it but i havent heard of it.

with the full screen you have in the SSV you have the full colour map option.
if you pay only $1500 one i think you only get the turn by turn version which for only an extra $500 go the full map one which does full map and turn by turn.

i ordered mine with the car back when i put the order in but i am yet to receive the call from the dealer to pick up so i cant give alot of details

[NRD80Y]

it does run on dvd
the player sits in the glovebox and takes up most of the room there too.
and i dont think you can play dvds from it...maybe there are stereo mobs that have been able to do it but i havent heard of it.

I think ‘vxclubby85’ from No Limit Car Electronics has figured this out, getting the input into the front screen without having a roof DVD. Check this thread in the Car Audio section http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=71694
Unfortunately he doesn’t give us any specifics and they’re in Melbourne :(

[Timson]

When I ordered my car I was told that it was approx $2000 to fit sat-nav to the car when being built, but approx $2800 to fit after the build. Apparently it can only be fitted at HSVi and they charge more for fitting because it is a little harder to do after the car is made. This info was supplied to me by the dealer.

Does the unit go in the glove box for sure? If thats the case the wife will not be happy at all!

Cheers,

Tim.

[mac06]

Does the unit go in the glove box for sure? If thats the case the wife will not be happy at all!

Cheers,

Tim.

Yep it goes in the glove box and you lose half the space inside it.

[Controltech]

When I ordered my car I was told that it was approx $2000 to fit sat-nav to the car when being built, but approx $2800 to fit after the build. Apparently it can only be fitted at HSVi and they charge more for fitting because it is a little harder to do after the car is made. This info was supplied to me by the dealer.

Does the unit go in the glove box for sure? If thats the case the wife will not be happy at all!

Cheers,

Tim.

I had mine fitted at the dealer after delivery. Takes about 2 hours. The unit for the SatNav DVD is installed in the shelf section in the top of the glove box and it take up about 75% of this area. I am very happy with the system.

[qld para]

there is also a huge back log of orders for sat nav. i pick up my ssv tomorrow and I recieved a letter from holden today telling me that the sat nav i ordered is on back order and should be fitted before june at the dealer.
they also sent me a book --- autobiography the history of the ve-- which is a great read

[Mojo]

I had mine fitted at the dealer after delivery. Takes about 2 hours. The unit for the SatNav DVD is installed in the shelf section in the top of the glove box and it take up about 75% of this area. I am very happy with the system.

CT - The consensus on a thread a while back was the system was average - lagged about 50m behind the vehicle, and anywhere out of the metro area forget it - so you're happy with yours is good to hear - any issues with it ?


there is also a huge back log of orders for sat nav. i pick up my ssv tomorrow and I recieved a letter from holden today telling me that the sat nav i ordered is on back order and should be fitted before june at the dealer.
they also sent me a book --- autobiography the history of the ve-- which is a great read

Para

You recieved a letter the day before delivery? - that sucks ! Are you paying for the unit up front with delivery or waiting for it to be installed ?

[Titanium]

I just run a Garmin NUVI660 it is the shizz nizzle.

It is not OEM but at $1000 it is a good piece of kit.

Cheers


Peter

[CalaisOwner]

I just run a Garmin NUVI660 it is the shizz nizzle.

It is not OEM but at $1000 it is a good piece of kit.

Cheers


Peter

You're right Peter. I've seen what the Garmin Nuvi 660 could do and it blew me away. What sets it apart from other GPS units is that it is fully touch screen, has bluetooth, FM transmitter and MP3 player. I checked ebay and it's available for around $800 - $850.

[Titanium]

You're right Peter. I've seen what the Garmin Nuvi 660 could do and it blew me away. What sets it apart from other GPS units is that it is fully touch screen, has bluetooth, FM transmitter and MP3 player. I checked ebay and it's available for around $800 - $850.

If it is $800-$850 make sure it comes with City Navigator 7.1, other wise you will need to drop another four hundy for the Australian maps on CD including a SD card.

It is also very easy to use, can connect to a PC for waypoints and journey plans, POI, stores photos.

But it is VERY good.

Peter

[blackduck]

aspiring youth, did you do a search? If not, try the VE Sat Nav when thread 1st posted 2nd feb. Don't waste 2 grand.

[Aspiring Youth]

aspiring youth, did you do a search? If not, try the VE Sat Nav when thread 1st posted 2nd feb. Don't waste 2 grand.

I dont think i will now thanks! Instead of starting another thread, can the dvd player be fitted after the car has been delivered? After speaking with the missus this thing would be great however we only decided that now after the car has been delivered. lol.

[BadMac]

I dont think i will now thanks! Instead of starting another thread, can the dvd player be fitted after the car has been delivered? After speaking with the missus this thing would be great however we only decided that now after the car has been delivered. lol.

Yes, dealer can fit. Although it would be good to find an aftermarket one that could also be fitted (and intergrated or is that far too much to ask).

[vasyd]

Cobra Automotive Accessories have an aftermarket solution. I can't post a link yet, but if you search for "cobra+holden satellite navigation" in google you will find the website.

Hope this helps.

[lukey73]

If you order the Sat-Nav after you have purchase the car its more expensive as the dealer has to pay HSVi to fit it.

In Brisbane i know of a company that can fit a system cheaper than the Holden system if it done after a purchase and it intergrates with the Holden screen etc.

[Controltech]

If you order the Sat-Nav after you have purchase the car its more expensive as the dealer has to pay HSVi to fit it.

Holden Sat-Nav, if fitted after delivery only takes about 2 hours and is done at the dealers service department, not HSVi

[EXCESSV]

I dont think i will now thanks! Instead of starting another thread, can the dvd player be fitted after the car has been delivered? After speaking with the missus this thing would be great however we only decided that now after the car has been delivered. lol.

mate go the sat nav for sure.
i have got the factory one in my ssv and have been using it for the last couple of days since i have had the car and there are no issues with mine compared to the issues others have stated.
whether holden have fixed the problems or mine is a freak i dont know...
but i reckon the system is tops! :thumbsup:

[ashisb]

Is the software still v12?

[EXCESSV]

Is the software still v12?

dont know...how do i check and i can let you know?
my car is a april build and i got it on tuesday

[ashisb]

I think it should say on the DVD itself. It was v12 last year, but v13 has been around in retail form (not the holden edition) since late last year.

[lukey73]

Holden Sat-Nav, if fitted after delivery only takes about 2 hours and is done at the dealers service department, not HSVi


Not on the cars that i have had it fitted to here in Brisbane, they have been to taken to the HSVi centre to get it fitted. My not be the same every where though.

[mymobile]

Anyone got a photo of the satnav in the VE actually displayed on the colour screen?

[EXCESSV]

Anyone got a photo of the satnav in the VE actually displayed on the colour screen?

will get one for you tomorrow night if no one else comes up with one before then

[Aspiring Youth]

there is a video on you tube of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PisfNUxEfwA

Looks the goods. And being as useless as i am, is probably needed.

Hmmm, so you think its worth it? Well, now its time to re-talk with the missus.

[EXCESSV]

there is a video on you tube of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PisfNUxEfwA

Looks the goods. And being as useless as i am, is probably needed.

Hmmm, so you think its worth it? Well, now its time to re-talk with the missus.
i think its a good thing.
it does the job and although some will say the price is not justified for the amount it gets used...i like it and it should be good on resale value too.

i definately dont regret getting it. but thats me mate.
your money your decision in the end

[Aspiring Youth]

Yeah i think i am gonna go ahead and get it done. Im not fussed on glove box space and i really am useless at finding places. Will ring Holden tomorrow to get a price.

Only problem is, if i get the sat nav, the zorst will have to be put back :(
But really it is probably better. That screen makes me angry every time i look at it as i feel its a wasted item. Thanks for the help!

[Janus]

there is a video on you tube of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PisfNUxEfwA

Looks the goods. And being as useless as i am, is probably needed.

Hmmm, so you think its worth it? Well, now its time to re-talk with the missus.

Hey, hey, that is my hand!

I quite like the satnav system. I have used quite a few over the years in many kinds of cars and this is a pretty good one. It has some things I would change and some things I wish were included but overall it does the job nicely for when you want it. I don't use it for going to the shops I use it for going to a place I don't know how to go get to.

Although it is more expensive then 3rd party external units I hate those and they are a pain in the ass having to set them up all the time etc. Whilst I think the unit is a little over priced it is pretty much the same with any built in nav unit you get on cars. The BMW and Mercs ones are about $1500 and they charge around $3000 to put a DVD player for the rear, so all in all I don't think Holden's pricing is all that bad.

I do miss my Calais V, it really was a good car that I really enjoyed driving. I do wish my new car would hurry up and get here...I am told it may be this week. :yahoo:

[boeing737]

I posted this request on another Forum yesterday and haven't heard from anyone. I thought I would ask the very knowlegable people on this forum:

I bought and paid for my Calais V in December 06 with the Full Map SatNav to be installed as soon as possible. A long wait.... It went in for the installation two weeks ago after a 4 months wait. It's great, no complaints, and works quite well with the map on the main screen, and the guidance arrows on the dash. It didn't have the steering wheel control buttons fitted at that time as the delivery was delayed. The Calais went in yesterday for the switches to be fitted.

When I picked the car up last night, all I could get it to do was repeat the direction command when the NAV button was pressed. I went back into the Service office and they sent out the overworked installation technician. He said that was all it was supposed to do, and all the adjustments should be with the MENU knob near the radio on the full map version, and not on the screen near the speedo.

I believe he is wrong and read the manual from front to back. It is divided into two parts and could refer to two types of installation.

Can anyone confirm if I should be able to use the thumbwheels to adjust destination etc., as well as use the MENU knob?

[EXCESSV]

Can anyone confirm if I should be able to use the thumbwheels to adjust destination etc., as well as use the MENU knob?

only the menu knob no the thumbwheels to adjust destination.
i asked this in another thread.

[Janus]

Yes the tech is right (I know, it is rare but actually happens). If you read the manual carefully you will see that it is divided up into a section for the full screen and a section for the bit near the speedo.

Basically if you have the full screen everything is done with the menu knob, only the directions etc is shown near the speedo and pushing the "nav" button simply changes the speedo to the nav display if it is on another trip computer function and makes the voice repeat the last instruction.

If you only have the display near the speedo then all the information that is usually shown on the full screen setting the destination etc are now displayed there and are controlled by the scroll wheels on the steering wheel. This is obviously because you now need a way to input the info on that little screen.

As I have said before, personally I would have thought that pushing the "nav" button on the steering wheel would have changed the radio display to the nav screen but we now know differently. It isn't that hard to just reach down and push the button on the actual radio so I'm not that fussed.

[boeing737]

Thanks Janus, That's very clear now you have explained it (even though I am a little suprised). Like you say in the last para, I had wondered why the radio/CD display was not changing to the NAV display when the steering wheel NAV button was pushed. - Its designed that way. I would have thought calling for the NAV would have brought up both the Nav displays.

[Tony Kendal]

I got my SSV in December 06 and the GPS was fitted in LAte April07. I also got the autobiography. The unit was fitted at HSVi in Brisbane. The Version is V12. V13 was released by Sensis in May06. I am having 'dialogue' with the dealer and GMH Melb over this. V14 is due out July. My head unit was replaced as things were going 'spastic'. Cruise control not 'activating', the clock dissapearing, LHS & RHS buttons/wheels not function correctly etc. etc. New unit is better, but I also have ignition noise interference on the screen, farting noises on the CD and then the clock vanished. It's not a "mature' design by any means. Once all the nav audio reset to Zero and muted during 'flight'. Had to re-do all the settings. The DVD unit only taked nav discs... it rejected Billy Connely Live and asked for a Nav Disc.

[boeing737]

The autobiography was a bonus. An interesting read. I didn't realise it was V12 - I assumed it would be V13. I'll approach GMH as well. I was looking forward to driving to Qld using the M7. I know it is not on the V12 disc.
My unit locks up about once a week. In other words, when I start the car, the display says "Please wait.." for about 10 seconds and then reverts to radio. When I press the NAV button from then on it says "Full Navigation not available". The only way I have found to re-set the system is press and hold the DVD eject button for around 15 seconds, until the blue light goes off and back on. After that, when you press the NAV button it starts normally. I took the car back to the dealer again for a day and they said they couldn't replicate the fault, and there were no error codes in the system. I am going to have to leave it in the defect mode and leave the car with them for another day. I'm not sure if the bluetooth start up (Voice in) is conflicting with the Nav startup sequence. More testing needed.
On the other hand, I reckon your Nav unit is a bit like us, and doesn't know where Billy Connely is likely to head, once he gets started. He could take you anywhere.

[Runner]

The autobiography was a bonus. An interesting read. I didn't realise it was V12 - I assumed it would be V13. I'll approach GMH as well. I was looking forward to driving to Qld using the M7. I know it is not on the V12 disc.
My unit locks up about once a week. In other words, when I start the car, the display says "Please wait.." for about 10 seconds and then reverts to radio. When I press the NAV button from then on it says "Full Navigation not available". The only way I have found to re-set the system is press and hold the DVD eject button for around 15 seconds, until the blue light goes off and back on. After that, when you press the NAV button it starts normally. I took the car back to the dealer again for a day and they said they couldn't replicate the fault, and there were no error codes in the system. I am going to have to leave it in the defect mode and leave the car with them for another day. I'm not sure if the bluetooth start up (Voice in) is conflicting with the Nav startup sequence. More testing needed.
On the other hand, I reckon your Nav unit is a bit like us, and doesn't know where Billy Connely is likely to head, once he gets started. He could take you anywhere.

This happens to me too sometimes (at least the part about not being able to access the nav screen). I simply turn the engine off again, remove the key , open and shut the drivers door and it usually starts up perfectly the next time. I know this is a pain but it seems to work at least on my car.

[EXCESSV]

My unit locks up about once a week. In other words, when I start the car, the display says "Please wait.." for about 10 seconds and then reverts to radio. When I press the NAV button from then on it says "Full Navigation not available". The only way I have found to re-set the system is press and hold the DVD eject button for around 15 seconds, until the blue light goes off and back on. After that, when you press the NAV button it starts normally. I took the car back to the dealer again for a day and they said they couldn't replicate the fault, and there were no error codes in the system. I am going to have to leave it in the defect mode and leave the car with them for another day. I'm not sure if the bluetooth start up (Voice in) is conflicting with the Nav startup sequence. More testing needed.
On the other hand, I reckon your Nav unit is a bit like us, and doesn't know where Billy Connely is likely to head, once he gets started. He could take you anywhere.


This happens to me too sometimes (at least the part about not being able to access the nav screen). I simply turn the engine off again, remove the key , open and shut the drivers door and it usually starts up perfectly the next time. I know this is a pain but it seems to work at least on my car.

happening for me too.
and i get it running again using boeing737s way.
Runner mine doesnt fix itself using that method.

i was speaking to my dealer the other day and they have a WM statesman with the same issue and its been in 6 times and they just cant fault it but are trying one more thing...i will keep u informed when i go past soon to see them about something else

[darrenblake]

Hi all,

I ordered a calais V with SAT NAV about 6 weeks ago.
The car was meant to be delivered this thursday, but have now been told due to major issues with the SAT NAV, it wont be built for another 4 weeks.

Maybe Holden are working on a fix - lets hope.

[Runner]

Another thing I have noticed is that sometimes I have to press the "ok" button for the nav to start and other times the nav screen activates without the need to do this. This is not a problem but it does make me think there is some instability in the system.

Is there any way to set the nav screen as the default screen when starting the car up rather than actually accessing by pressing nav? My screen always has auxilliary as default because I have the ipod plugged in.

[V-Car]

Hi all,

I ordered a calais V with SAT NAV about 6 weeks ago.
The car was meant to be delivered this thursday, but have now been told due to major issues with the SAT NAV, it wont be built for another 4 weeks.

Maybe Holden are working on a fix - lets hope.

Maybe if they hadnt sacked half their techies and engineers a few years ago in a cost cutting move so CEO Rick Wagoner could keep earning his multi millions each year, these things might have been released with fewer problems and without new owners having to do Holdens R & D for them!


Chief Executive Rick Wagoner earned a salary of $2.2 million, a bonus and other compensation of about $2.6 million, and stock options for 400,000 shares in 2004. Total 5 year earnings of $22mil.

http://www.forbes.com/static/execpay2005/LIRSOX2.html?passListId=12&passYear=2005&passListType=Person&uniqueId=SOX2&datatype=Person

[Mojo]

Ordered the Satnav option with the vehicle and while waiting for delivery and reading a few threads on here was thinking I may have made the wrong choice and maybe should have got a Tomtom or other portable unit and have it hard wired - WRONG - the unit is a beaut and not only do you have the full colour display on the screen you also get the turn by turn on the dash and the built in voice.

None of the issues others have stated 'yet' but luck of the draw maybe.

With the benefit of hindsight and after using the factory fitted system for a while I can honestly say there is no way a portable unit, hard wired or otherwise could compete.

If you have the choice and are thinking about a hard wired portable instead of paying the 2k - do yourself a favour and get the real deal.

[boeing737]

I agree with Mojo about the convenience of having the satnav built in. I've been in quite a few cars with a small tomtom/navman on the window. I prefer the integrated unit, even though it has some problems. Hopefully, they can be cured. Hopefully they will upgrade us to Version 14 when it comes out seeing they didn't supply version 13.

I've been doing some testing on the weekend. I turned off the bluetooth on my phone. Went out quite a few times over the two days and it worked perfectly every time. It also meant the compass symbol and "abide by road rules" message came up every time, where it does not always, if the start up is interupted by the "voice in" message. This could be why the dealer can't replicate the problem. I may need to leave the phone or get them to test it while the phone is in range.

I also tested pausing the key at ignition on, before turning to start for a second. That seems to let the satnav start, before the bluetooth starts. Still testing that as a solution.

To "Runner": When mine locks up, turning the engine off, opening doors, radio off and on, getting out, locking the car, unlocking and re-starting could not clear the fault. I tried them all. I always have to press the DVD eject button and hold it (the DVD does not eject while it is in the fault mode). Then it clears.

Therefore, I think it is bluetooth related. I'll keep testing.

Supplementary question: Has anyone heard about getting fixed red light cameras as POI's or changing the voice to a male as an option?

[V-Car]

I agree for integration and ease of use the factory system wins, but having lived with one in a VX, and also a portable Garmin unit, i have to say for functionality and information provided, the Garmin was miles ahead.
The VE unit would want to be much better than the earlier units to come close to matching the aftermarket satnavs.
Do they even offer 3D views?
Also, at over double the price, they are just plain rip offs.

[jeffro186]

I had the VDo Dayton aftermarket model fitted to my VE V8 Calais. It was $2700.00. Off the top of my head it is teh MS5200H. The benefits over the factory one are that it runs from an SD card, not DVD. No moving parts and half the space in the glove box compared to the DVD. Also it is running the latest version of the mapping software (V13).
One drawback is that is controlled via a remote instead of the steering whell controls. But I can live with that.

[ashisb]

Hi all,

I ordered a calais V with SAT NAV about 6 weeks ago.
The car was meant to be delivered this thursday, but have now been told due to major issues with the SAT NAV, it wont be built for another 4 weeks.

Maybe Holden are working on a fix - lets hope.

Got the call today from my dealer too. Mine was supposed to roll off the production line next Monday, but he wasn't able to give an update on the production date just yet (said that they are in a "holding pattern" on the sat nav).

Said he'd been told by holden to check again on the 18th for new dates.

Does anyone know what the problem is? Is it a backlog on the installations of Sat Nav, or is there a technical problem with the product that they are trying to rectify?

[boeing737]

Update on NAV freezing: I've got my SatNav to start everytime now, even with my mobile in the car. I try and pause in IGN, for a split second, before firing the engine up, and waiting a second before putting the car in reverse.

But... somehow I've got my front and back Park Assist to stop working completely. Any ideas anyone? I can't find any settings in the "Options" (other than tow bar off/on - which I've tried)

[Tony Kendal]

Update on NAV freezing: I've got my SatNav to start everytime now, even with my mobile in the car. I try and pause in IGN, for a split second, before firing the engine up, and waiting a second before putting the car in reverse.

But... somehow I've got my front and back Park Assist to stop working completely. Any ideas anyone? I can't find any settings in the "Options" (other than tow bar off/on - which I've tried)
The Time of Day in the top LH Corner also disappears intermittantly. NO Full Screen Navigation Available has also come up , often go past the turning point in the city when the turn voice comes up, and VERSION 14 is due out in July. I am aggrevating the dealer for the disk FREE. When asked about V13, they say they must have skipped it. Hey GMH, It was released in May06 to the rest of the world incl Toyota. I have seen all the previously mentioned problems and the reported fix clears it. I do not have Bluetooth activated and still get all the 'bugs'. Does anyone else have ENGINE NOISE or ALTERNATOR noise present on the screen. It is MOST EVIDENT at night with the brightness up a bit and VERY annoying. This noise could be the source of the bugs' . Also the GPS HEAD UNIT, mounted above the passenger foot air panel was just "thrown in" and floating about. There is enough cable on it to stow it above the fuse panel in the foot well. Still not Happy Jan !!!!

[milkojnr]

and the reported fix clears it.

So have I missed something here. What are the reported fixes?

[ashisb]

For anyone interested, I got another call from my dealer today. Build date has been moved from May 21 to June 4 as a result of Sat Nav delays. He wasn't able to elaborate on whether it was a technical or resourcing delay.

[milkojnr]

This Sat Nav has been a major stuff for holden.

I wonder if they wish they never released it on the VE yet.

[EXCESSV]

This Sat Nav has been a major stuff for holden.

I wonder if they wish they never released it on the VE yet.
i dont think they regret it.
most ppl dont have any issues or the issues are minor teething ones.
i have a minor one where it doesnt come on...has the "full colour map not available." but shut it down and start again and its all good.
when they find the fix i will get it done and all good.
it has happen 4 times in 4 weeks with 2000km driven...not a big concern for me

[Controltech]

I have used several other manuafacturers SatNav, ie Toyota, BMW, Ford, Audi and Holden (VDO Dayton in a VY) and found the VE Sat Nav to be just as good as any of the others.

[V-Car]

I have used several other manuafacturers SatNav, ie Toyota, BMW, Ford, Audi and Holden (VDO Dayton in a VY) and found the VE Sat Nav to be just as good as any of the others.

Difference is though, that theirs are sorted and work properly before being installed, and have up to date latest mapping, not two year old versions.
Most, if not all of the above, also use VDO systems like the VE, so they are no better or worse than the Holden, but compared to a decent aftermarket system, they are light years behind.
If i had paid over two grand to add a system to an already installed screen, and it didnt work, or had these quoted issues, i too would be really pi$$ed off.

[BlackCalaisVVE]

Got the call today from my dealer too. Mine was supposed to roll off the production line next Monday, but he wasn't able to give an update on the production date just yet (said that they are in a "holding pattern" on the sat nav).

Said he'd been told by holden to check again on the 18th for new dates.

Does anyone know what the problem is? Is it a backlog on the installations of Sat Nav, or is there a technical problem with the product that they are trying to rectify?

Ordered a Calais V at the start of March with SAT NAV plus a bundle of other extras Tint 20" Wheels Plus 20' spare tyre, pedals, roof racks, LSD and others got it at the end of April with everything. Unless your not in a major city should not be taking that long. I suggest you call the Dealer he Should be able to tell you where the car is on the factory line and reasons for the delay.
Though i have read worse problems someone on another thread had to wait 6 months for there Calais V. Im sure you will get yours soon its worth the wait

[Tony Kendal]

So have I missed something here. What are the reported fixes?
Sorry, I should have said "Work Arounds".
We are all waiting for the FIX. In my industry it's called a "Latent Defect" which GMH should be required / obliged to fix and retrofit all affected vehicles. The fact that we are getting very nice books from them is some admission of fault and appeasement.

[Janus]

Though i have read worse problems someone on another thread had to wait 6 months for there Calais V. Im sure you will get yours soon its worth the wait

That would be me! And after my first one was destroyed I have just waited several months for a replacement. And I can't try the sat nav in that one because although it is fitted they forgot to actually give me the DVD for it and I haven't had the time to sort it out with them.

[EXCESSV]

some good news sort of for the ppl having the sat nav problem like i am where sometimes the sat nav doesnt start up on the SSV and comes up with "Full Colour navigation map not available".

well i mentioned it to the dealer a couple of weeks back and today went back to pick up my correct service/warranty manual (one for VE V8 not VZ V6 like i was supplied :cussing: thats another story)
anyway, they have been working on a WM statesman with the same issue and after 6 visits they think they have found the problem and ordered the part to fix it but its delayed alot as with all the sat navs are now.

apparently its the facia on the DVD unit in the glove box.
it is apparently trippy a button off or something.

i probably will be doing 3000km service there in 2 weeks so i will get an update if the part has arrived and if its fixed the problem.

i will keep all posted

[milkojnr]

EXCESSV,
That is interesting news, can you please let us know how you go.

There might be a recall coming.

[Tony Kendal]

The facia slides off to the right. Might try taking it off completely and see if I get the same problem. Also has anyone found where to put in a Video signal to get video/pic onto the screen ? I'm considering a camera, visible light for the rear and IR for the front. There is sufficient IR from the headlights ( they are about 85% IR and 15% visible light ) to illuminate further than the eye can see.

[EXCESSV]

UPDATE:

well this morning had the 3000km service and although i am p1ssed that holden cant even do it properly without me having to complain loudly i got some info for all you guys having the sat nav issue with the message "Full colour map not available"

the guy that was handling this issue was on his honeymoon so i had a word about the sat nav issue with the service manager.
anyway apparently its a software issue and they reflashed the software on my unit to see if it fixes the problem.

but he said that holden is aware of this problem and the manufacturer (blaukpant) is working on a upgraded software release for all the units.
he said all he knows is its being worked on and expect a release in about 3 weeks where he thinks that ALL ppl with sat nav on there VE will be notified with a letter or something to come and have the software upgraded or it will be done as ppl get there cars serviced/kick up a fuss.
wont be a recall as such

[Tony Kendal]

Damn fine news..... and what of the Release 14 of the maps. Rev12 is just not acceptable. It's akin to driving about with a Stromberg carbie under the bonnett.

[EXCESSV]

Damn fine news..... and what of the Release 14 of the maps. Rev12 is just not acceptable. It's akin to driving about with a Stromberg carbie under the bonnett.
he gave me some waffle of an excuse about out of there control and its up to sensis and blaukpant on how they release versions etc.
i was late to work anyway and couldnt be bothered argueing...
heres hoping the software update on the unit will included updated version of the sensis maps but holden and miracles are words i never would use in the same sentence

[Janus]

Is there an email or snail mail address what we can express our anger to Holden about the crappy old maps?

As you have said, if you mention it to the dealers they just make some excuse and say that it isn't there fault so not much good complaining there.

[EXCESSV]

Is there an email or snail mail address what we can express our anger to Holden about the crappy old maps?

As you have said, if you mention it to the dealers they just make some excuse and say that it isn't there fault so not much good complaining there.best way to action anything like this to holden in regards to the maps is via the holden customer service phone number...its a 1800 number

i managed to find them reasonable and get some results with the hassles when my car got built incorrectly. talk to them nice and see what happens

[Janus]

best way to action anything like this to holden in regards to the maps is via the holden customer service phone number...its a 1800 number

i managed to find them reasonable and get some results with the hassles when my car got built incorrectly. talk to them nice and see what happens

Bit off topic, but what was wrong with your car?

[EXCESSV]

Bit off topic, but what was wrong with your car?they built me a car minus all the options i ordered...ie: sunroof, sat nav, full size spare etc...
they didnt realise till they did the checklist before putting it on the train to come to perth....
then after i kicked up a fuss nicely they built my current one quickly by prioritising it and got it right the second time...
WA distribution manager made sure it was prioritised and monitored it throughout the build process.
got some freebies out of holden for the stuff up and the long wait so it was ok in the end...driving such a awesome car has made me forget about all the waiting, hassles and anger

[Tony Kendal]

I went to Newcastle over the weekend, and yes, the SSV still works after driving with water up to the wheel centers, and hitting a water sheet 4 inches deep at 110Kph isn't a problem but the sat nav is another thing. Anyone tried pushing the TIME button whilst playing a CD ?? you get the CD info NOT the time. If you then press the CD button, it pauses. Same if you just have the radio on, press TIME to get radio info, then press TIME again and the time comes up only for 3 secs then goes to the previous screen. You cannont display TIME. Also the double mutes kept coming up and the MAP INFO screen keeps dropping the time. You have to go into MAP SETUP to get it back. Day / Night presentation seldom switches over. And still have alternator noise on the screen. I AM WONDERING IF THE SAME ENGINEER DID THE AIR BAG DESIGN. THANKFULLY THE ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION TEAM GOT THEIR BIT VERY RIGHT INDEED. New lights are next, these don't do the car justice, but they do the nav system justice (sic)

[BLACK expreSS-V]

Has anyone purchased or at least seen the new VDO system for the VE?

- Latest 3D maps
- SD card storage
- large POI database
- speed and redlight cameras
- easily updated via the net

and the best part...

- fully integrated so it works on the standard colour screen
- all the buttons work - NAV, TIME, etc
- Smaller font, not the large VE std one
- can take a Reverse Camera, external DVD source, game console or TV

All for not much more than the std Holden "junk".

[EXCESSV]

i havent seen the VDO but i wouldnt use the word JUNK for the standard holden one in my SSV.
i think its great
first sat nav system i have had and use it regularly and cant flaw it.

mate who has tom tom that he uses in his ssv saw it and thought it was great too.

[Mojo]

have to agree - my Holden unit certainly is not junk - best 2k I've ever spent - funny how most of the knocker's don't have it

[SupremeVT98]

Just get a Tomtom.

[VooDoo]

Dealerships in Brisbane are doing these at a rate of 8-10 a week (each) in both Pre-D and aftermarket. No idea the price but you cant tell its not factory and it works very well in the time i had to play with it. Only problem is the supply from VDO is drying up so less being done Pre-D now.


Has anyone purchased or at least seen the new VDO system for the VE?

- Latest 3D maps
- SD card storage
- large POI database
- speed and redlight cameras
- easily updated via the net

and the best part...

- fully integrated so it works on the standard colour screen
- all the buttons work - NAV, TIME, etc
- Smaller font, not the large VE std one
- can take a Reverse Camera, external DVD source, game console or TV

All for not much more than the std Holden "junk".

[BlackCalaisVVE]

I have sat nav in my Calais and also have a tomtom system powered by a PDA i have used both over time and think there is not much difference except the PDA is a lot cheaper the only down side is more visable wires and having to disconnect and reconnect the Pda everytime you park the car somewhere or you will end up with a smashed window. I have the tomtom software for Austarlia and tomtom6 so if anyone wants to install it on there pda i might be able to help out

[ashisb]

Picked up our Calais V V6 today and the dealer said something interesting ...

Without having mentioned anything about sat nav, he says to me that the DVD is a new version "umm .. 14 I think it is" he said.

He said that the reason for the recent delay in Sat Nav production was due to a glitch in the software and the new version has fixed it.

Only problem is, my wife has driven off with the car and DVD, so I haven't been able to confirm it. Still, if we've got the fully up to date maps, I'll be wrapped.

UPDATE

Turns out my dealer didn't know what he was talking about (in his defense, he did say he wasn't that familiar with it).

It's still version 12 of the maps. I'm guessing it was a firmware upgrade that he was told about.

[milkojnr]

It's still version 12 of the maps. I'm guessing it was a firmware upgrade that he was told about.

Can anyone confirm that there has been any firmware updates? I have had mine installed since NOV 06 and I have never had any updates offered to me?

[CalaisOwner]

The only advantage of an in-car GPS is no one will steal it. The maps in in-car GPS are usually one or two versions older than the ones in portables (Garmin, TomTom, etc). The major advantage with the portables is you can mount the unit in your line of sight (windshield or dash) and not have to look down at the console.

[EXCESSV]

Can anyone confirm that there has been any firmware updates? I have had mine installed since NOV 06 and I have never had any updates offered to me?i had mine reflashed at the 3000km service last week and was told there was a firmware upgrade coming in 2-3weeks...and they would call me as i am on there list now apparently....
so as far as i know....no firmware upgrade released yet

[ashisb]

i had mine reflashed at the 3000km service last week and was told there was a firmware upgrade coming in 2-3weeks...and they would call me as i am on there list now apparently....
so as far as i know....no firmware upgrade released yet

Is there any way of checking the firmware version? Although my dealer was a bit clueless, he had clearly been told that the reason for the delay with my sat nav was due to a upgrade of something - he thought it was the DVD version, but that is clearly not the case.

Be interesting to check my firmware version against older cars to see if there has been any change.

[EXCESSV]

Is there any way of checking the firmware version? Although my dealer was a bit clueless, he had clearly been told that the reason for the delay with my sat nav was due to a upgrade of something - he thought it was the DVD version, but that is clearly not the case.

Be interesting to check my firmware version against older cars to see if there has been any change.not sure of checking the firmware.
the reason for the delay behind the sat navs was a simple demand issue.
alot of ppl wanted it and blaukpant couldnt keep up with the demand

[Mojo]

The only advantage of an in-car GPS is no one will steal it. The maps in in-car GPS are usually one or two versions older than the ones in portables (Garmin, TomTom, etc). The major advantage with the portables is you can mount the unit in your line of sight (windshield or dash) and not have to look down at the console.

The VE SSV has the colour screen as well as the turn x turn on the dash and the voice - The SS has the turn by turn option and I assume the voice - no need to look down at all.

Your point about the unit not being nicked is a big one - not having to remember to take it with you every time you leave the house, stick it on and plug it in every time you drive, then unstick and unplug it and stick it in your pocket and carry it around with you all day, then take it out, stick it back on and plug it back in - too much hassle for my liking.

If it's within the budget you'd be mad not to go for the integrated unit on the SS or SSV.

[willow]

Picked up my Calais V last night, and I got the upgraded VDO unit in it.

Dead easy to use, map data was V13 from Whereis (current).
Unit only takes up a little room in the Glovebox.

Only thing I'm getting used to is not having a touch screen. Last satnav I had had that, and I found that was good in one way, but the remote is easy to use as well.

[blackduck]

Picked up my Calais V last night, and I got the upgraded VDO unit in it.

Dead easy to use, map data was V13 from Whereis (current).
Unit only takes up a little room in the Glovebox.

Only thing I'm getting used to is not having a touch screen. Last satnav I had had that, and I found that was good in one way, but the remote is easy to use as well.

Ok, let's see how good it is!! If you get a chance, try and load the following destinations,
Basil Brown Drive, Tamworth, NSW or Wattle st, Aberdeen, NSW. Neither of these can be found on my Satnav (fitted in Jan), but both locations can be loaded on my Navman.

If you can load either, I'll believe that Holden may be up to date.

[willow]

Couldn't find the Tamworth address, although it did have quite a detailed list of streets for Tamworth:
http://www.torquen.com/photos/satnav/P1040609%20[800x600].jpg


The Aberdeen address was in there though.

http://www.torquen.com/photos/satnav/P1040608%20[800x600].jpg

Remember though, this is the VDO whereis v13, and not the standard Holden satnav system

[blackduck]

thanks Willow. At least there are streets in Aberdeen on your version. the original only has the New England Hwy.
These were just two examples of where the original fit was way below par. If I'm off a 'tourist route', I'll stick to my Navman.

[EXCESSV]

well i can confirm that the reflash that holden dealer did at the 3000km service for my "Full size colour map not available" problem is not fixed
happened twice in 2 days after not happening for a few weeks.

waiting on the official new software update for it

[Tony Kendal]

My SSV has been called in by the dealer for a host of problems with the Sat Nav. They want it for a week. I seem to have ALL the problems they know about and then some. I'll keep you informed if they manage to get any of it resolved.

[V-Car]

Billion dollar baby?
Obviously not much of that was spent on getting the satnav correct before releasing it onto unsuspecting customers who have paid top dollar for a sub standard product.
I guess Holden chased the lowest supplier bid...and you, the buyer, havent get what you paid for.
Its ironic that the previous supplier, Siemens VDO, have already got their quality version to market while Holden and Blaupunkt are still making excuses and trying to find fixes.
Flame me if you will, but i find it inexcusable in this day and age for a manufacturer like GM Holden to offer something as half @r$ed as this before its properly sorted.
If GM Shanghai can get their up market, hi tech Buick version of the Caprice to market with all its gizmos, surely its not too much to ask of Holden to get a (very) basic satnav up and running!
:soap:

[BLACK expreSS-V]

Billion dollar baby?
Obviously not much of that was spent on getting the satnav correct before releasing it onto unsuspecting customers who have paid top dollar for a sub standard product.
I guess Holden chased the lowest supplier bid...and you, the buyer, havent get what you paid for.
Its ironic that the previous supplier, Siemens VDO, have already got their quality version to market while Holden and Blaupunkt are still making excuses and trying to find fixes.
Flame me if you will, but i find it inexcusable in this day and age for a manufacturer like GM Holden to offer something as half @r$ed as this before its properly sorted.
If GM Shanghai can get their up market, hi tech Buick version of the Caprice to market with all its gizmos, surely its not too much to ask of Holden to get a (very) basic satnav up and running!
:soap:

No flame from me. what you are saying is 100% correct. I'm glad I didn't get one and would certainly be asking for the sh1t to be ripped out and my money returned...

[Janus]

To be fair it isn't that bad. For most people who just drive in their major city it is fine and will happily get you from a to b. However, I do think that it is sub-standard for the price that they have charged, especially considering the external units you can get now-a-days that are much better with more accurate maps etc for a fraction of the price.

I just hope Holden face up to the fact that we have paid a large premium to have this system which still has obvious problems and they better do the right thing and fix it for us....although I am not willing to guarantee that they will.

[Mojo]

Billion dollar baby?
Obviously not much of that was spent on getting the satnav correct before releasing it onto unsuspecting customers who have paid top dollar for a sub standard product.
I guess Holden chased the lowest supplier bid...and you, the buyer, havent get what you paid for.
Its ironic that the previous supplier, Siemens VDO, have already got their quality version to market while Holden and Blaupunkt are still making excuses and trying to find fixes.
Flame me if you will, but i find it inexcusable in this day and age for a manufacturer like GM Holden to offer something as half @r$ed as this before its properly sorted.
If GM Shanghai can get their up market, hi tech Buick version of the Caprice to market with all its gizmos, surely its not too much to ask of Holden to get a (very) basic satnav up and running!
:soap:


No flame here either mate but like I have previously stated a lot of the VE satnav flamers here apparently don't have one. Some don't even appear to have a VE ? I do and have had no such problems and reckon it's worth every cent. Obviously by this thread some have had major problems but unless you have any firm stats on good vs bad units then I don't believe you can make such a broad brush statement.

Admittedly I would be majorly pissed if I paid 2k for the unit and it didn't work.

I remember reading yonks ago on this thread I think that someone was getting a portable unit (Tom Tom I think) hard wired and a mounting fascia made up for the coin hole/ashtray slot. Haven't seen anything since - anyone know what happened here - may have been an economical built in option and was interested to see the results.

[EXCESSV]

UPDATE TIME:
was at dealer for another issue today and i can confirm that the release for the fix is now available...well thats what they told me

i was gonna have it done on my car but i am waiting for some parts to come in for a warranty repair on something else. once that is complete they will flash the fix at the same time

[Janus]

Good to hear. I have to take my car in for some other issues after I had the 3000km service last week. Will be sure to hassle them about this and say there is a fix available. This is after I told them what the problem was, what the fix was and that Holden said it was coming soon. Instead they tell me that it is caused by a broken left hand scroll wheel and they replace it and tell me that it is fixed. There is no way in hell I believe them that that was causing it as it makes no sense so I then get in the car, start it up and sure enough it starts happening immediately. Serious who are these ass clown who service the cars. Use a brain! I tell you what the problem is and how to fix it but instead you waste my time and your replacing parts which make no sense and then say it is fixed when they obviously didn't even test it.

[EXCESSV]

Good to hear. I have to take my car in for some other issues after I had the 3000km service last week. Will be sure to hassle them about this and say there is a fix available. This is after I told them what the problem was, what the fix was and that Holden said it was coming soon. Instead they tell me that it is caused by a broken left hand scroll wheel and they replace it and tell me that it is fixed. There is no way in hell I believe them that that was causing it as it makes no sense so I then get in the car, start it up and sure enough it starts happening immediately. Serious who are these ass clown who service the cars. Use a brain! I tell you what the problem is and how to fix it but instead you waste my time and your replacing parts which make no sense and then say it is fixed when they obviously didn't even test it.good luck with it mate.
when the parts come in for mine and it goes in for repairs and gets the sat nav software update i will be able to confirm if it has fixed it or not...until then i can only say what the dealer told me