Cookie monster STOLEN

[COOKIE!]

Well what a week it has been in the cookie camp..

Tuesday night me and the misses decide to go catch a movie at Northland Hoyts (preston) at about 8:45 movie goes to 11:10 and when we come out The car was Gone!!!!! No sign of broken glass or anything.

Rang the police and found out that they dont even attend the scene anymore they just do a over the phone report and mail it out a crappy piece of paper with your rego handwritten on the paper.

Then called the insurance company (a.a.m.i hope its o.k that i mentioned who it is) who were really help full at the time and organised a cab to get me home and a rental the next day. than thats where the fun start's when they realised the amount the car was valued at and the mods they have none hired an investigator to look into the matter because they obviously think i tried to stage it. The Guy is from ipa or something like that and will come out on tuesday night and wants me for 3 hours to question me, my neighbors my dog and cats the people 14 blocks away and so on, they have asked for a copy of my phone records on the day and a swag of other paperwork.

Is this a common thing that insurance companies do??? Seems a bit full on seeing as im their customer and pay them. Not happy about this whole thing at all, having to take 3 hours or so out of my day because they thing i did it, come on:cussing: :cussing:

I did have the car up for sale in here and have had a few people from here or friends of people from in hear come around for a look and i would want to hope that no one from here is responsible.

The only half decent thing to come out of this is that there was no personal belongings in the car other than a chefs uniform because it was gutted for the nats.

If anyone sees the car which is a Hothouse green VY SS rego TZC 217 please call the police / a.a.m.i or myself on 0402908775 and i will make sure you are looked after. Ill be keeping an eye on all the "other" forums and ebay and i just hope that i find something of mine on there :outlaw: :outlaw:

Hope the bastards that did this go to hell.

Cheers
Anthony

P.S sorry this took so long to read.

[UTE FORCE]

Dude that sucks..i thought you had sold it..oh well new car sooner than later..good luck

[GTS LSA]

Not good man........nothing would ^&$%^& me off more:cussing:

On the insurance front, I believe a lot of claims would be investigated if they fall within certain criteria (I think the no broken glass might not help) or the insuarnce value............ however they would need to prove you did something wrong ... I think........ on the other hand I have heard of claims being knocked back because the insurance company simply cant substantiate the story ... then it gets messy with court proceedings to try to obtain the $$$ and unfortunately they can generally afford a better legal team.......

I hope it all works out...... best idea is follow the process without getting pi$$ed off and give em everything they ask for....

[COOKIE!]

Dude that sucks..i thought you had sold it..oh well new car sooner than later..good luck

I was in the process off t yeah but that dosnt look like its happening now.

[heavychevy]

Mate, be cool with the investigator. You were curious that there were no remnants of forced entry and so are they.

They would be familiar with cars being winched onto flatbeds, but the location and situation would make that unlikely.

You called the cops and that's all you could do.

How could a claim be knocked back because the insurance company couldn't prove that the owner did it. And a better legal team would prove what? Apart from the fact that they have no idea how it happened either.

[HRT 8]

Anthony, tell the PI to go get the security footage from the carpark. Most large complex's like that have them.

[dogsballs]

Anthony, tell the PI to go get the security footage from the carpark. Most large complex's like that have them.

unfortunately in some instances the security are also in on the thing :(

[XCLUB]

Let due process take it's course. This is nothing new with insurance companies. They will interview all and sundry to assess whether or not you were trying to pull a fast one. Don't sweat it. I would be gutted personally....

[IH8FORDS]

Northys is really prominate for car thefts, there are security cameras every where so something may have been seen. As for security being in on this type of thing, not likely at northys, i know most of them, one is also a nieghbour. No broken glass at the scene is gunna kill you, and there investigator is just that, THERES!!! Get in touch with an idependent investigator not affiliated with aami, good luck with it all mate.

luke

[COOKIE!]

Well i shoult say that i didnt see any glass at the scene, i have tint so the window wouldnt have shattered anyway.

[BigJim]

Yep certainly sucks having a car stolen

Ive had 2 cars stolen over the years and i have always had the insurance company investigate me and i have had to go in both times for a short interview which took no longer than 1/2 to complete. I suppose they just gotta make sure your not in on it and rule you out. Both of my cars they paid out the full coverage as i always insure my cars to an agreed value.

Hope it goes well and you get your payout if they dont locate it.

[team illucid]

sorry to hear that Anthony ... hope it is all smooth sailing for your replacement.

[lowriding]

sorry to hear that mate. I have got to say it shits me with insurance co's nowadays.Fair enough they do their little investigations and such , but i have heard of cases dragging out 6 months or more .Happened to mate of mine when his 200sx was nicked. He still had to pay his loan while this was happening ,and had no car ,Its not right :cussing:

[ssgirl2]

A horrible thing to have to go through, but I'm sure it'll all come out in the wash and you'll be driving a new car really soon.

I'm with you as well...I'm certain that if your windows were tinted and someone smashed them from the outside, the glass would be held together and fall inwards, not out. Maybe there would be alot of minute shards of glass, but they'd hardly be big enough to see.

SS :)

[Savannah]

That's awful Cookie :( . I know it's hard to keep a cool head when this kind of thing happens. Sometimes the victim can feel like they are the culprit with all the formalities. I hope it resolves itself soon and things work out best for you.

Savvy.

[busta]

Sorry to hear it mate. A friend of mine had his vl stolen a few years back, long story short they didn't pay him out cause a neighbor said he drove it everyday. Apparently he was the nominated driver on his dad's policy therefore he could only drive it occasionly.:flipoff: unfortunatly if they can find a way to not pay they will.
hope it all works out.

[Curtis-R]

Mate sorry to hear your news, I know that feeling you get when you realise whats happened! It Happened to me the night before Christmas a few years back.. and to top it off I had all of my kids christmas presents in the boot..!

Makes me wonder how they could steal it as I thought most of these late model things were pretty solid on the security side?

Also I'm pretty confident that if the window was smashed even with tint there there would have been glass around.. I also speak from experience with my last car :cussing: Glass was everywhere!

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[hothed]

Sorry to hear that mate, it sucks when something like this happens - i hope you get your car back in one piece! (Or a substantial payout)

[LS1TOY]

hey COOKIE!, i'm pretty bummed out for you.:( it must be a horrible feeling to lose somthing like that. best of luck gettin paid out. dont know if you want the car back or not. its sad when people think they deserve your stuff more than you. im on the net all day so ill keep an eye out, you just never know. Goodluck;)
Jake,

[genIIIss2002]

Sorry to hear it, well I wont be driving to Northlands no more, after reading this post. Everytime I come out of shops, I think what if my car isnt there and you get that sick feeling. Apparently Epping's plaza isnt any better, thieves are every where.

[AJVXSS]

That sux junior :cussing: Stay cool with the investigators, Ive been through it before, took 6 months for it to get sorted:banghead: Goodluck mate

[vyssbeast]

hey mate,

Sorry to hear, its a real pain in the ass

you got nothing to hide so just answer whatever the investigator wants to ask and you'll be fine

hopefully move on to new n better things once this is sorted, hopefully quickly

cheers

[NUTSvuS]

I hear your story there mate. Sorry for your loss aswell. However these insurance companies are all the same. Take your money but are reluctant to give some back. They probably are just suss that your vehicle was for sale and then stolen from a location some time after that.
They are just thinking you couldnt sell it and had organised to do a job. Unfortunately this is a common situation were people then organise with friends to leave a car at a location for a couple of hours say a football match or the cinema's. A place you dont go everyday.
I think that they will check your mobile for repeated calls to the same number around the event.

I had a mate that was questioned about a simular thing. Unfortunatelly process does take a while.

I think that if they cant prove it, they would leagally have to pay you out though. Its probably more to check your behaviour about it out. See if your suss.

[VNV8]

that really sucks, especially the police being so slack about it. do you get the feeling they wont do sweet **** all? that bites. hope your insurance company come to their senses though.

[wrexed03]

Sad to hear mate but this happens.
Been there done that with the investigator in the past.
Only advice i can give is keep cool and calm and answer the questions as best you can. Some investigators can make you feel like a criminal. Sad but true.
If possible when questioned have someone with you even a legal rep same applies to your mrs they may want to question her as well.
If possible try and record the interview incase you need it later on down the track if it gets messy. Note you need to advise the investigator that you are recording the interview prior if you go down this path.

One other thing i hope you have disclosed any mods on your policy cause they can knock back a claim if you havent. (They will try and find a way out if possible).

Mine took 3 years to settle and i went through all the crap with lawyers courts etc and i can tell you it wasnt staged either.

It irritates me when you know of someone who has staged the dissapearence of a vehicle and gets paid out within a month. Really makes my blood boil.

Anyway i hope it works out for you good luck with it and keep your cool.

Regards

[RIDE:42]

you may get more than one visit from the investigator as well

[BLACKWAGON]

That sucks mate, hopefully the insurance amount covers you for the sale price.
I had a vl turbo stolen years back, they sent investigators out to interview me and friends.
Mate had car stolen, investigators came to see me and a few friends who were there aswell as the owner.
I think its pretty standard.

Hope it works out.

[Pulse 8]

The lack of broken glass means nothing. I remember while living on the south side of Brizzy for a number of years there was an organized car theft racket busted for major Commodore thefts. Preferred method was the use of a tilt tray- Back up to a nice car and drag it on. Nobody takes any notice as they think its just your typical breakdown. I know this as one of my mates "lost" his from seaworld the same way in broad daylight. Like most others mate I hope it all pans out for you.

[BLACKWAGON]

Not wrong there, when the wrx's were evem more popular a guy next to us had his lifted onto a truck during the nite on a bloody busy road....nepean hwy, heaps of traffic at any time day or nite, it looks legit so noone questions.

[klink]

Sorry hear about your pride and joy.

I have been in a similiar situation several years back, not nice but when you have nothing to hide dont stress to much.

But remember to check your policy fully and may even pay to ring the insurance ombudsman, just to see where you stand and make it know to the investigator that you have made contact with them. That way they know that you are serious about getting to the botom of this as they are, and that you know your facts on where you stand so they dont try and pull the wool over your eyes.

I had to do this so they would release my car back to me after it was located and fixed.

Hope this helps a bit,

[dracer]

problem is, u start bloody doubting yourself, you feel guilty and look bloody nervous and guilty when the pricks come around! investigators id like to smack one in the nose!

[Boom]

What a bummer. I have just finished a claim and investigation for a break and enter. Took 6 months to finally get it sorted. Will probably want itemised local calls from your mobile and home phone. This was a major hassle for me. Not as easy to get as you would think. They also wanted bank and credit card statements as well. Got all that sorted then they wanted more. Police statements and other information. They seemed to be delaying tactics. In the end I started jumping up and down and things started to happen.
Hope you dont have to go through all the hassles I did.

[vxssgurl]

What a scummy thing to have happen.

Hope that insurance works out in your favour... and from what you (and others) have said... finding your pride and joy stolen is only the beginning of the nightmare.

Fingers crossed for a good outcome.

And that they find the theif and roast his ar$e...

[cbwolf]

Sorry to hear about the car mate. It's always sad when some asshole steals someone's pride and joy.

I actually went to Northland on wednesday at around 8:30 with my missus to see a movie, luckily my car was still there. This will make me very wary of parking my car at Northland from now on.

Me and the missus will definately keep an eye out for your car though.

[exwrx]

The missus' car is for visiting places like Northland, not the commodore.:teach:

Unfortunately with the drop in used car values, insurance fraud is increasingly common. We all end up paying in the end, and we have to put up with investigations by insurers as well. Just keep cool with the insurance coy and push them to make a decision asap.

If the car is found in one piece the insurer will check to see whether the ignition has been activated - if it has, their suspicions will be heightened further. If not, then hopefully they will realise that it was less likely to have been an inside job, and they will eventually pay out.

Good luck.

[Gen3Man]

Good luck with it all.


Stay focussed and calm, and you'll be right.

[Hammer]

any news on the car cookie ????

[brentonvxss]

Thats a shit thing to have happen to get your car stolen and after paying insurance just incase something like this happens than to than find out that you might not get your pay out i would not be happy.

hope all works out

[monaroCountry1]

What a bummer. I have just finished a claim and investigation for a break and enter. Took 6 months to finally get it sorted. Will probably want itemised local calls from your mobile and home phone. This was a major hassle for me. Not as easy to get as you would think. They also wanted bank and credit card statements as well. Got all that sorted then they wanted more. Police statements and other information. They seemed to be delaying tactics. In the end I started jumping up and down and things started to happen.

Exactly the same with me when my ford got stolen.

2 statements, first when I reported the car stollen, the second near the end.

A bank statement, easy enough, just go to your local bank show them proof and ask for a statement.

My phone records was again pretty easy since I keep all my mobile phone records on file and requested a copy of my home phone. These dated back 2 months before the events (just in case). With my mobile I kept all incoming and outgoing msgs.

For me sorting these out and matching them with my recolection of the events proved pretty difficult (I have a bad memory :)). Close to six months later my car turned up, with a new paint job :). Had speeding and traffic fines sorted by the police.

[Hitman]

Isn;t it amazing that you have to prove you DIDN'T steal your own car, as opposed to them proving you DID steal your own car.

[COOKIE!]

Isn;t it amazing that you have to prove you DIDN'T steal your own car, as opposed to them proving you DID steal your own car.

Yep i agree makes me sick in the stomach.


any news on the car cookie ????

No news at all mate have the interveiw with the investigator tomoz and i will keep you all updated with the progress. The police told me that in 99% of cases with cars like these if they arnt found within the first few days that its unlikly they will be found at all or in one piece.

I just hope that they find the cra and it has just been some little shits taking it for a joy hice but the longer it goes the less i think that is going to happen.

Thanks to all for your kind words and for all those that sent p.m's thank you to you aswell.

[Scud]

I just hope that they find the cra and it has just been some little shits taking it for a joy hice but the longer it goes the less i think that is going to happen.


Mate, I feel for you. Unfortunately due to the immobilizer in these cars, its highly unlikely that it's been taken for a joyride. I'm guessing that professionals have followed you and bought in a tilt tray "Repo Man" style.

Hope your insurance dramas get sorted quickly and you are back on the road ASAP.

D

[NZSHAKER]

I always think to myself some days when I come out of shopping centres is it there or is it not, or did that car dent her or where they as carefull as I was gettting out of my car.

Hope it all gets sorted for you.

Im with AAMI and my car has had the left rear qtr panel dented, dont know where or when it happend but reported it one day, took it and got 2 quotes that day went and saw them the next day booked it in to get her fixed in 1 week so whole thing went really smooth so they are good to deal with.

[BLOWN_VXSS]

That really sux man, we all feel for ya. I wouldn't know what to do if I came out to find my pride and joy missing. I really hope it turns up, this is a big forum and we'll have our eyes open. Hopefully a bit of luck for you.

[`redoctober]

Dave and I will be keeping our eyes open mate, especially since we're in a nearby area and are around near your place a fair bit. We know the car and have your number, so if either of us see anything we'll give you a buzz. :thumbsup:

[HARMSY]

Feel for ya, there's only so much you can do to prevent getting your car stolen....and there's not much that will stop a flat top, thats my biggest fear......

Hope all goes well from here, keep us posted.....

[planetdavo]

Isn;t it amazing that you have to prove you DIDN'T steal your own car, as opposed to them proving you DID steal your own car.

This thread has headed down a pretty predictable path, just like police threads, but the simple fact is that plenty of people do try to rip off the insurance companies, and they exist to make money, so most of the grief people get with certain types of claims is really down to all the dodgy bastards out there ruining it for everyone.
Actually, life in general is like that. It only takes a few people to f*ck it for everyone.
Don't get agro with the investigator. They are just doing the job they get paid for.

[VX2VESS]

was it towed or driven away do they have any ideas?

[HSV_CRUZN]

Feel for ya mate.

My family has been there, done that too. Its one of the worst feelings, which isnt helped when u feel people who should be assiting you through it, such as the insurance company, arent much help

Hope all sorts itself out chief

[COOKIE!]

was it towed or driven away do they have any ideas?

No idea but i dont think there was room to do it but who knows?



Had the interveiw this afternoon and the guy was really good, told me everything he was going to do and told me what the next steps were going to be. He was a car man too and said that he dosnt want it to be drawn out so will try and have the report to them mid next week then its in there hands. Im hoping for a quick turn around from this point on and will keep you guys informed. He also said that they know that 4 out of every ten cars reported stolen are false claims and thats why they do what they do.

Im not pissed at the insurer and i guess that if it was my business that i would do the same thing.


The only thing that i thought was weird was that they took both of the keys?? what am i suppose to do if the car is found??

Anthony

[planetdavo]

The only thing that i thought was weird was that they took both of the keys?? what am i suppose to do if the car is found??

Anthony
Most dodgy insurance claims are for some reason missing one of the keys!!!!!
Doesn't take too much brainpower to realise where the other one might have "gone".....
You are yourself unlikely to find the car. If the police find it, a call to the insurer will sort out the return of the keys.

[Carby]

No idea but i dont think there was room to do it but who knows?



Had the interveiw this afternoon and the guy was really good, told me everything he was going to do and told me what the next steps were going to be. He was a car man too and said that he dosnt want it to be drawn out so will try and have the report to them mid next week then its in there hands. Im hoping for a quick turn around from this point on and will keep you guys informed. He also said that they know that 4 out of every ten cars reported stolen are false claims and thats why they do what they do.

Im not pissed at the insurer and i guess that if it was my business that i would do the same thing.


The only thing that i thought was weird was that they took both of the keys?? what am i suppose to do if the car is found??

Anthony

It's actually good you had both sets of keys to give the investigator - did you receive some sort of receipt slip for them?

Anyway the keys when the car is a total loss belong to the Insurance company.

[Bazz]

Yeah giving them 2 keys is a little win for you, sort of saying that you just didn't drive off with it. Although guess it would cost a lot less to change keys than buy a new SS but!!!

I think that you would be better off not getting it back if it has been thrashed. Mates car got taken and when he got it back, the rear footwells were buckled up cause the car had bounced so hard. Just wouldn't know what was wrong with it.

Good luck with it all.

Bazz

[COOKIE!]

Little update, they have organised an interveiw with my misses and actually spoken to the security at the shoppping centre at this stage they have done more work that the police.:wave:

[VTSSDUDE]

That's bad mate, I feel for you. My father went through the same procedure when he lost his company vechile or his ute, but he used it for his business. Some dude hired specially for investigating to make sure that my father didn't stage the whole thing. Same thing, had to produce phone records, etc. It's stuff like that makes you think twice of going out next time.

[brentonsav]

hope the process or quick and relatively painless mate. good luck with it all and keep us informed. if my ss was stolen, i'd be shattered also.
sounds like a tilt tray job to me, f**king scum!

[Curtis-R]

Little update, they have organised an interveiw with my misses and actually spoken to the security at the shoppping centre at this stage they have done more work that the police.:wave:

That does not suprise me..! Good luck.. so as per an earlier post of mine in this thread.. How are these ppl stealing these new model cars? I thought security on them was pretty bloody good?

[TUFFIE]

Well Holden in their wisdom place the Chasie nu on under the windscreen, all you need is a contact at Holden to get a key programmed which gets you into the car, then all you need is a scanning tool for the ignition...
Thats what I was told ...
I may be wrong

[brentonsav]

Well Holden in their wisdom place the Chasie nu on under the windscreen, all you need is a contact at Holden to get a key programmed which gets you into the car, then all you need is a scanning tool for the ignition...
Thats what I was told ...
I may be wrong

so any service manager is capable of getting into any commodore?
thats a bit of a concern, surely there is dodgy ones out there!

[whitels1ss]

Little update, they have organised an interveiw with my misses and actually spoken to the security at the shoppping centre at this stage they have done more work that the police.:wave:

My wife had her car stolen and we had to go through the same thing, the investigator was an intimidating idea at the time and we felt insulted by the idea of being questioned, but the guy that came out was fine and only had a job to do.
I know another guy who is a full blown dudder who came up with a story that his Senator had been stolen, (he was having trouble making the repayments at the time, but, we won't dwell too much on that!). If you knew this guy you would not believe him but the car was found burnt out. Investigator and him came to an agreement, he dropped the insurance claim, and they did not have him jailed for insurance fraud.
Anyhow, if they did not check these things out, imagine how many of these a...holes would be dudding insurance companies and what we would have to pay to insure our toys?

[WOMBIE]

COOKIE i feel your pain man...had my first ever car stolen when i left it in a shopping centre car park (whilst seeing a movie i might ad)and that sickening feeling you get in the pit of your gut when you realise that you pride and joy is gone,well you know only too well:(

Happened 24 years ago now and i wouldn't wish it upon anyone.These things have a way of turning out for the best and as you seem like a good bloke i'm sure everything will...Goodluck with it all

[VX2VESS]

Little update, they have organised an interveiw with my misses and actually spoken to the security at the shoppping centre at this stage they have done more work that the police.:wave:


thats good news.. any camera footage of the scumbags


Well Holden in their wisdom place the Chasie nu on under the windscreen, all you need is a contact at Holden to get a key programmed which gets you into the car, then all you need is a scanning tool for the ignition...
Thats what I was told ...
I may be wrong


once an insider has the numbers required he can make the key blade and program the head to work at any locksmith. key can be cut by code

[BLAZEY]

Well Holden in their wisdom place the Chasie nu on under the windscreen, all you need is a contact at Holden to get a key programmed which gets you into the car, then all you need is a scanning tool for the ignition...
Thats what I was told ...
I may be wrong


your exacly right there mate
i work at a holden dealer ship and it is that easy....holden have a data base which have every single holden made and with in that vechile has the ignition key number bcm security codes radio codes ect....and all u have to do is get a key cut then, but then it needs programing with tech 2 so i spose thats a bit harder but hey there would be some dodgy people out there. wouldnt suprise me!

blaise

[TUFFIE]

your exacly right there mate
i work at a holden dealer ship and it is that easy....holden have a data base which have every single holden made and with in that vechile has the ignition key number bcm security codes radio codes ect....and all u have to do is get a key cut then, but then it needs programing with tech 2 so i spose thats a bit harder but hey there would be some dodgy people out there. wouldnt suprise me!

blaise

Thanks for confirming that for me mate, I was 90% sure I was right.. It pretty much came from the Horses mouth at the time.
Just before he copped 18 moths for car theft..

[LooneyR8]

Thanks for confirming that for me mate, I was 90% sure I was right.. It pretty much came from the Horses mouth at the time.
Just before he copped 18 moths for car theft..

Yep, very true.......

I walked into a dealer in Melbourne with my VIN and ten dollars and walked out with all the codes for my R8. I needed them as my only key had been stolen from my truck in the CBD in Melbourne. Key cut and programmed...there you go sir one running R8.....;)

This is why I dont use a factory alarm system intergrated. A bit of a pain in the arse having a second key fob but at least you know if they open the doors the vehicle isnt going to go anywhere.

[Phantom_Menace]

Any news Cookie? I see your looking at a statesman now, I hope everything turned out ok and you get a new ride..:driving:

Cheers Phantom,

[COOKIE!]

Any news Cookie? I see your looking at a statesman now, I hope everything turned out ok and you get a new ride..:driving:

Cheers Phantom,

Nah mate no news yet at all, gave the rental car back on thursday now i just have to wait for the insurance company to cough up the payment.
The investigator has passed on his findings to the insurer and has given them the all clear as far as i know, so its just a waiting game from here on in, ill keep you updated

[Phantom_Menace]

Cheers mate, hope it gets done ASAP, I know its hard without ya baby...:serenade:

[Dug]

Glad to hear it's at least looking positive now, and that there appears to be a light at the end of the tunnel.

Not nice that you've been put into this situation by some scumbag, but at least you're being treated with due respect.

[ryno]

Im glad its working out for you.. A mate of mine had his monaro flogged and put into a tree..

Insurance co were adamant that he crashed it and had him charged with fraud(=jail time).. It cost him over $40,000 to beat the fraud claim as the insurance company had f&*k all evidence, so now he has to take them to court to get them to pay out on the claim and also to get some of his other legal fees back..

Its been over 2 years of which he has still had to pay the bank for the loan!!!

Sometimes I wonder if an employee makes the wrong call and refuses to back down figuring their lawyers will get them out of it in round 1.....:cussing:

[COOKIE!]

Well im still waiting for the investigator to give his report to AAMI:cussing: :cussing: and then they will let me know what the story is, i thought he had done it on thursday but he needed more time as he needed to get some more info for them.... i love waiting its my favorite thing

[spank]

a mate of mine went thru a very simalar thing, cops grilled him big time as he had the car for sale in the trading post for some time before it was stolen and accussed him of "arranging" it to be stolen, took 8 months before he got his money, so just be patiant these things take time, his car has not been found yet, 8 years later.

[COOKIE!]

Well what a few weeks it has been...........

NOTHING has happened.. still waiting on them, they just got the report from the investigator last week and have sent some papers away and still are waiting on them??? They wont even tell me an amount that ill b getting so i can look for another one...... argh i hate them all.........:soap::soap::soap:





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[BLACKWAGON]

Farkn dogs! Hang in there man.

[1340LOCO]

Same thing happened to me when my boat got stolen. You will end up getting paid mate. I think they like the power trip making people sweat it out when they have done nothing wrong.:flipoff:to insurance company's