Holden Captiva new commercial

[payaya]

Hey all,

Not to start a flame war, but the New Captiva Diesel commercial states it uses 20% less fuel than the Territory.

The Territory carries 300KGs more weight has way more power and torque, so its funny its only 20%???

[Mikhael]

Hey all,

Not to start a flame war, but the New Captiva Diesel commercial states it uses 20% less fuel than the Territory.

The Territory carries 300KGs more weight has way more power and torque, so its funny its only 20%???

I haven't seen the commercial yet, but 20% fuel saving sounds pretty bloody good to me.

This should spice things up a bit in the SUV wars !!!!!!

Nice one Holden :thumbsup:

[payaya]

how can they compare cars which essentially arent in the same class???

Ford is the bigger car its heavier and more powerful for that reason, obviously its going to use less petrol.

Same is the Captiva is compared to a Rav4 or something.

[Mikhael]

how can they compare cars which essentially arent in the same class???

Ford is the bigger car its heavier and more powerful for that reason, obviously its going to use less petrol.

Same is the Captiva is compared to a Rav4 or something.

People do compare the two though.

Even Holden does it seems.

The rear wheel drive only Territory's are not that much different in size and price to the Captiva, and they do pretty much the same tasks that families require of them anyway.

[Jac001]

The Territory carries 300KGs more weight has way more power and torque, so its funny its only 20%???

% wise how much heaveier is the Territory compared to the Captiva?

[Black AH CDX]

The add is for the Captiva diesel, and it says it uses "OVER 25%" less fuel than a territory.

[Mikhael]

The add is for the Captiva diesel, and it says it uses "OVER 25%" less fuel than a territory.

25% now, even better.

Do I hear 30 ?

Anyone ?

:wave:

[Delft Maloo]

The add is for the Captiva diesel, and it says it uses "OVER 25%" less fuel than a territory.

its true i heard it myself:teach: :thumbsup:

[CAPTIVALX]

Baby i'm ready to go:serenade:

[Mikhael]

Baby i'm ready to go:serenade:

So are you upgrading to the diesel model then ?

I tell you what, those Captiva's are not a bad bit of kit, they look good on the road and these new diesel models should really take off.

They sound like very smart buying.

[Dufus]

But what do the Diesels go like? Has anyone driven one yet?

[Ghia351]

But what do the Diesels go like? Has anyone driven one yet?
slower then a Terry diesel :stick:

[VQST80]

I wonder when ford will throw a diesel at the terry..

From what I hear It will be a long time..?????

[monaroCountry1]

how can they compare cars which essentially arent in the same class???

Ford is the bigger car its heavier and more powerful for that reason, obviously its going to use less petrol.

Same is the Captiva is compared to a Rav4 or something.


The same way with the Aurion v Commodore. Ones a medium sized car and the other is a true large car.

Do I agree with the ad? definitely not. But hopefully ill help[ holden sell more.

[CAPTIVALX]

So are you upgrading to the diesel model then ?

I tell you what, those Captiva's are not a bad bit of kit, they look good on the road and these new diesel models should really take off.

They sound like very smart buying.


Nope , im very happy with my bum in the seat of the petrol version. I'll keep the smelly fingers for the bedroom:p

[SV346]

Captivas are definately a physically bigger car than the territory, even hopping in the two its obvious, and youd actually be able to use a captiva off road where as with the territory you would hit the bottom all the time when the going got tough because its just a jacked up sedan really its control arms would hit everything. neither of them have much go at all though, and both handle bloody well. Just my random thoughts :)

[VQST80]

Captivas are definately a physically bigger car than the territory, even hopping in the two its obvious, and youd actually be able to use a captiva off road where as with the territory you would hit the bottom all the time when the going got tough because its just a jacked up sedan really its control arms would hit everything. neither of them have much go at all though, and both handle bloody well. Just my random thoughts :)

So your saying the terry is just a jacked up RTV wagon..??

IMO the captiva would handle a beach and maybe even some dunes, where as the terry would get bogged due to the body and sill panels dragging sand because of underbody height issues..

[superoo]

Captivas are definately a physically bigger car than the territory, even hopping in the two its obvious, and youd actually be able to use a captiva off road where as with the territory you would hit the bottom all the time when the going got tough because its just a jacked up sedan really its control arms would hit everything. neither of them have much go at all though, and both handle bloody well. Just my random thoughts :)

Captiva bigger than the territory? I think you mean the other way around, surely. Captiva does have more ground clearance but if offroading was something you were doing on a regular basis, I doubt you'd be looking at either of these vehicles.

[Ghia351]

Captivas are definately a physically bigger car than the territory, even hopping in the two its obvious, and youd actually be able to use a captiva off road where as with the territory you would hit the bottom all the time when the going got tough because its just a jacked up sedan really its control arms would hit everything. neither of them have much go at all though, and both handle bloody well. Just my random thoughts :)
Lucky your thoughts are only random rather then accurate...the Terry is physically wider and longer then a Captiva and has more interior space, just compare the distance between third row headrests and rear tailgate and it will be obvious....and in my eyes a little concerning aswell...as to offroading, you don't buy either for true offroading, however the AWD Terry is full time while the Captiva is full time FWD and on demand AWD.

[Black AH CDX]

25% now, even better.

Do I hear 30 ?

Anyone ?

:wave:

Well the "over 25%" only refers to the label on the window. In real world situations i bet it would be greater than 30%

[CAPTIVALX]

Well the "over 25%" only refers to the label on the window. In real world situations i bet it would be greater than 30%


Mine is about 25% better than most terries and it's the petrol so the diesel would definatly be over 30%

[VY2]

Always a comparison, like chalk and cheese. I know which vehicle I'd like to be towing my big boat up the highway for a long distance, and it ain't no Captiva.

I traded the wifes new Rav 4 for the Territory Ghia and its world's apart. I went in the Captiva and it was a huge dissapointment. Not a bad vehicle however not yet in the same league, hence the price.

I pay fuel for the SS' so it aint that bad in the Terry...:driving:

[CAPTIVALX]

Seen many a terrie struggling to tow a big load on the highway with the ass dragging on the road. Why ford doesnt offer some sort of self leveling rear suspension is beyong me.

[VY2]

My Wife's Blacks Terry tows my Haines Hunter Pro Strike up and down the coast no worries and that's not a small load either.

My neighbour next door who has bought his daughter a black Captiva struggles to take his trailer to rubbish tip on weekends .:p

The only reason why he bought it was it was a step up from the Rav 4 and a real young girls car.

He has been in my Terry and its like a Omega to a Calais he reckons, hence the price...

[Ghia351]

Seen many a terrie struggling to tow a big load on the highway with the ass dragging on the road. Why ford doesnt offer some sort of self leveling rear suspension is beyong me.Wouldn't a badly balanced trailer/caravan be the real reason as I think there is a max. limit on tow ball weight and if any car was dragging it's backside then this is more likely the reason. With a 2300kg towing limit and levelling kit included this shouldn't be the case. I know when I took a 225Kg gross drum in the rear cargo area (load resided behind 2nd row so fully behind rear wheel axle line) for a delivery once the rear end sag was surprisingly minimal or more importantly the steering didn't go light and swervy.

[Mikhael]

My Wife's Blacks Terry tows my Haines Hunter Pro Strike up and down the coast no worries and that's not a small load either.

My neighbour next door who has bought his daughter a black Captiva struggles to take his trailer to rubbish tip on weekends .:p

The only reason why he bought it was it was a step up from the Rav 4 and a real young girls car.

He has been in my Terry and its like a Omega to a Calais he reckons, hence the price...

The Captiva and Territory weren't designed to be serious off-road vehicles or serious towing vehicles either.

There main purpose to their existance is to transport families around town and also as a weekend escape vehicle.

If you want to tow boats etc on a regular basis, you would be mad to buy one of these vehicles as they have limited towing capacity.
The traditional large 4WD's were designed for serious towing and off-roading, although can be bulky for alot of people, especially in the cities.

The Hummer H3 is similar in size to the Territory, has the best off-road credentials, and has a 3 ton towing capacity.

I think we have a winner :thumbsup:

[RED R8]

The Captiva and Territory weren't designed to be serious off-road vehicles or serious towing vehicles either.

There main purpose to their existance is to transport families around town and also as a weekend escape vehicle.

If you want to tow boats etc on a regular basis, you would be mad to buy one of these vehicles as they have limited towing capacity.
The traditional large 4WD's were designed for serious towing and off-roading, although can be bulky for alot of people, especially in the cities.

The Hummer H3 is similar in size to the Territory, has the best off-road credentials, and has a 3 ton towing capacity.

I think we have a winner :thumbsup:

Or the Mrs CRD Turbo KJ Ltd Jeep good size excellent of road 10 L/100KS arround town 3.5Tonne tow capacity 400nm of torque all luxury's ,excellent crash test rating all for 44k drive away...I will stick to me jeeps

[-Jay-]

its stupid you know.

Its like a comparison against batteries on the ads,

eveready SUPER HEAVY DUTY batteries last longer than ordinary duracell

well no fricken sh!t!

YOUR COMPAIRING 2 DIFFERANT TYPES OF POWER

shits me how they do that crap on tv

[ADSXR8]

its stupid you know.

Its like a comparison against batteries on the ads,

eveready SUPER HEAVY DUTY batteries last longer than ordinary duracell

well no fricken sh!t!

YOUR COMPAIRING 2 DIFFERANT TYPES OF POWER

shits me how they do that crap on tv

I also agree. Maybe have a look why Holden dont market the petrol Captiva against the Territory, why, its ADR rating is higher than the Territory.

[Black AH CDX]

I also agree. Maybe have a look why Holden dont market the petrol Captiva against the Territory, why, its ADR rating is higher than the Territory.

no its not.


Captiva petrols rating is 11.5l/100km, the terrotory's is 12 point something or other

[ADSXR8]

no its not.


Captiva petrols rating is 11.5l/100km, the terrotory's is 12 point something or other

Just found some figues, 11.5 vs 12.2 for the Territory.

[VL Executive]

Who makes / supplies the Diesel engine in the Captiva anyway?

[Ghia351]

Just found some figues, 11.5 vs 12.2 for the Territory.

So at an average of 15000km per year the Terry will cost you less than $0.36c/day more to run then the Captiva....sort of makes buying based on fuel economy rather negligible.

[Black AH CDX]

Who makes / supplies the Diesel engine in the Captiva anyway?

its made by GM Daewoo but was designed by Italian Diesel engine specialist VM Vitori

[Mikhael]

So at an average of 15000km per year the Terry will cost you less than $0.36c/day more to run then the Captiva....sort of makes buying based on fuel economy rather negligible.

And the difference in cost per day for the diesel model is..............? ;)

[Ghia351]

And the difference in cost per day for the diesel model is..............? ;)a little over $1.40 per day...read a newspaper online and you won't feel the difference ...;) ;)

[llucie]

Also find the Captiva diesel uses 95% less fuel per km than the council Mack tipper -
Read the "motoring organizations" test of the Captiva compared to models of its comparable size and you find that it doesn't stack up very well against even the other Korean imports , this is without comparing it to the Japanese and Euro models available - just because they whack a Holden badge on it doesn't make it any better than what it started life as - the Holden faithful will buy it regardless - probably beleive that it's made right here in Australia , anyone really interested in going off road is unlikley to go anywhere near a Holden dealer for their vehicle .

[Waughy]

Also find the Captiva diesel uses 95% less fuel per km than the council Mack tipper -
Read the "motoring organizations" test of the Captiva compared to models of its comparable size and you find that it doesn't stack up very well against even the other Korean imports , this is without comparing it to the Japanese and Euro models available - just because they whack a Holden badge on it doesn't make it any better than what it started life as - the Holden faithful will buy it regardless - probably beleive that it's made right here in Australia , anyone really interested in going off road is unlikley to go anywhere near a Holden dealer for their vehicle .

The Captiva is an aussie design, a concept was shown at the '04 motor show, it's not some Korean car rebadged like the Barina or Astra, which aren't good cars. Not much has changed in the production model either. Yes it's built in Korea, but the plant has been fully revamped by GM so quality is up.
I've driven the diesel Captiva and will be getting one on salary sacrifice once I start my new job. I did look around and will admit the territory seemed the better pick, but I need the 7 seat version and I was far from impressed with the 3rd row in the territiry. It looked and felt uncomfortable, the seat is about 3 inches thick and sits right on the floor, and the floor goes on for about 20cm or so before it dips down into the leg area, my kids wouldn't be able to bend thier legs to sit there. The Captiva 3rd row was excellentfor comfort and legroom. There's another thread on here where ppl are baggng the 3rd row, claiming the Territory is much better, but you only have to read thier details and see what they are driving to see why. They're all Ford owners. And I haven't read a review yet that has absolutely bagged the Captiva and said any of the comparrison vehicles were well above it, they all had thier good and bad and seemed to be pretty much on par.
I don't want a proper 4WD either, that's why I'm not considering the likes of the Pajero with the extra seats, though they appear to be better again.

[Mikhael]

a little over $1.40 per day...read a newspaper online and you won't feel the difference ...;) ;)

My hip pocket will feel the difference.......

[Venom XR]

The Captiva is an aussie design

It had Australian design input, but it's not an australian design.