Varying Parts Prices at Dealerships

[els]

Needed to purchase a few smaller parts today for my dad's VX and noticed some varying prices from two close dealerships (Sydney):

1. Dealership (withheld)

Dash Bulbs - $9.50ea
Plastic Clip - $19.60
Perspex cover - $41.50
Remote Key - $120.xx


2. Hunter Holden Ryde

Dash Bulbs - $6.50ea
Plastic Clip - $15.00
Perspex cover - $31.50
Remote Key - $47.xx


I thought all dealers were priced the same, or at least similarly. Just thought i would pass on my experience today, saved $100 just by making an extra phone call :thumbsup:

**Didn't want to name the dearer dealership in case it upsets somebody. Mods let me know if i can edit it, or PM me if you want a name.

[lowriding]

pays to shop around .Is the other dealer Heartiest in the Land ?

[bsbozzy]

pays to shop around .Is the other dealer Heartiest in the Land ?

Wouldnt be suprised.

[els]

Not sure who that is.. Just think busiest main road in Sydney.

[planetdavo]

There are a three possibilities here.
(a) A big direct dealer looking for more margin.
(b) A smaller dealer that doesn't buy direct off Holden, so pays more off a distributor for the same part. To get the same margin, they have to charge more.
And finally, we get to option (c).....
The second place may have accidentally quoted trade rather than their proper retail, giving you the misleading impression that the first place was ripping you off.
You might not think this happens, but it does a fair bit. If that's the case, next time might not be so generous. If you want to figure out which option it is, ask Dickie for the correct list price (plus tax). If yours are under that, you were quoted a trade price.

[Highway]

I have found Hunter Holden Ryde to always be the cheapest over the years in
Sydney.

Most times I dont even to bother to ring around anymore.

The prices you got are most likely retail unless you asked about trade.

Ask about trade when your there and usually they will do better.


Mike

[Toddler78]

YEah I tend to agree, if you ask for trade they will do better however the trade price is not much cheeper then retail in my experiences and I definatly would not have saved that umch buying that number of items trade compared to retail.

[CV860L]

When I was buying a rubber mat for the back of my SS Ute a few years back I rang the 2 closest dealers for a price and one of them (one of the biggest dealers in Sydney) had more than 75% mark up on the other (much smaller) dealer.
Pays to make a quick phone call.

[theVman]

Its like trying to compare Newcastle City Holden and Kelly Holden . . NCH is extremely expensive compared to the competition in most areas.

It does pay to shop around - NCH must get a lot of business just out of convenience but I know if I had the spare time I would always buy off Kelly Holden as I have always found them to be 5-10% cheaper.

I too dont understand why there is such a price difference except one seems to have a bigger mark up - applies for new and used vehicles also in most cases

[whitels1ss]

It is correct, "Markup" is the word, the prices often do vary from dealer to dealer, they always have.
I have seen Ford prices vary by 50% between some of the commonly replaced Ford parts in Adelaide. (There are quite a few parts that you have to keep replacing on some model Fords.) lol

[Rad Kane]

Also it is adviseable to check out places like 'Auto 1'.
Found them to be cheaper than most of the Holden dealers.

[GAL350]

There are always two prices, so always ask for the trade price. Because I'm not in the trade, when I ask for parts I always say "is that your cheapest price" and then they always offer me trade price, no questions asked. Its so easy :yahoo: Definately pays to ask.

[planetdavo]

I always say "is that your cheapest price" and then they always offer me trade price, no questions asked. Its so easy :yahoo: Definately pays to ask.
Most places wont let it be this easy.
Making it too easy p!sses off the real trade customers, and they are the main business of the dealership in most cases.

[mustanger]

Just a quick question . Do all Holden Dealrships have the same recommended retail prices. Does anyone know for sure?

[planetdavo]

Just a quick question . Do all Holden Dealrships have the same recommended retail prices. Does anyone know for sure?
No they don't.
The list price quoted by Dickie Knee for example in the parts thread is really only used for insurance quoting. Most dealers are much the same, but overall it's up to market forces.

[Wonky]

Just a quick question . Do all Holden Dealrships have the same recommended retail prices. Does anyone know for sure?
HSPO provide all dealerships with recommended prices, but they are just that - recommended. Plus there are different levels of dealerships as far as buying parts goes and dealers receive a small discount on parts they order as part of a large stock order.

Therefore, if you go in twice to buy exactly the same part from the same dealership on different days you may get different prices depending on whether the part came in as part of a large stock order or whether they have to get it in. If they have to get a part in urgently for you and it goes in as an emergency order then they not only don't get a discount but actually attract a surcharge from HSPO for special processing and handling.

To go back to what I said above, even at the same dealer with the same guy serving you, you could get three different prices depending on whether the part was part of a stock order, had to be ordered in or had to be ordered in urgently.

[mustanger]

No they don't.
The list price quoted by Dickie Knee for example in the parts thread is really only used for insurance quoting. Most dealers are much the same, but overall it's up to market forces.

Thanks for that. That is what I was wondering.


HSPO provide all dealerships with recommended prices, but they are just that - recommended. Plus there are different levels of dealerships as far as buying parts goes and dealers receive a small discount on parts they order as part of a large stock order.

Therefore, if you go in twice to buy exactly the same part from the same dealership on different days you may get different prices depending on whether the part came in as part of a large stock order or whether they have to get it in. If they have to get a part in urgently for you and it goes in as an emergency order then they not only don't get a discount but actually attract a surcharge from HSPO for special processing and handling.

To go back to what I said above, even at the same dealer with the same guy serving you, you could get three different prices depending on whether the part was part of a stock order, had to be ordered in or had to be ordered in urgently. Now that explains why there may be different prices quoted on certain parts. It makes sense if you have an item in stock for one price and if you have to procure an item,it would be another price.

[Y2kGoofball]

and the other thing when this happens guys dont take it out on us because someone else can/will/has done it cheaper.

All I can do is sell you the item according to the pricing on my screen. If you ask me about trade to get the price down then I need the proof your in the trade.

I dont make the prices I just sell the items, and the common theory of "marking up" doesnt apply to most counter people because thats how you lose business, we just sell for the price we''re told too.

In my experience its not us who set the prices, but its us who cops the :cussing: when something is too expensive

[ratter]

. If you ask me about trade to get the price down then I need the proof your in the trade.




As it should be, good on you :cheers:

[planetdavo]

In my experience its not us who set the prices, but its us who cops the :cussing: when something is too expensive
Yep, many people just love to shoot the messenger.
The thing is all the d!cks that try to crunch the price on us, thinking "oh it's not your money, it's only some rich persons money", would no doubt be in no rush to give us a job, if we got the sack over all this discounting....

[Dickie Knee]

The prices I quote in the part numbers thread (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=22874) are List price + 10% for GST = RRP. In saying this I have only worked for one dealer that stuck to this pricing. People would comment that the pricing was cheaper than dealer X down the road, and we got a lot of return business.

The parts side of things has been looked at as something people have to have. If you break something you need a new one. I think with more people moding there cars this thinking needs to change.

If Holden was to tell all dealers to sell at this price to all retail customers, that would be price fixing. It's all down to the price set by upper management at the dealership. Some dealerships have to add on a % for freight charges, some add a % on to retail to lift GP% because insurance companies are screwing panel beaters over, so the panel beater is hitting the dealers up for a better that trade discount.

There are lots of reasons why one dealer is dearer that another. So the moral of the story is " SHOP AROUND ". If it an expensive part make some calls, get info from here. You have a choice.

If you do find a dealer that is giving good deals on parts to retail, post it on the forum let us all know.

[morey92]

Had a quote done to get three ss badges for my car, first place which is 5 min down the road said $102.15, another place said $72, but they are 30km away. To cut a long story short, got them from the first place for all up $67, and saved myself $35, an hour of my time, and about 50km. So, it pay's to shop around!

[Dickie Knee]

Had a quote done to get three ss badges for my car, first place which is 5 min down the road said $102.15, another place said $72, but they are 30km away. To cut a long story short, got them from the first place for all up $67, and saved myself $35, an hour of my time, and about 50km. So, it pay's to shop around!

For something like this you could have asked if the 2nd place will post them out if you gave them credit card details.

Sounds like you got the good deal.

[gasguz]

Had a quote done to get three ss badges for my car, first place which is 5 min down the road said $102.15, another place said $72, but they are 30km away. To cut a long story short, got them from the first place for all up $67, and saved myself $35, an hour of my time, and about 50km. So, it pay's to shop around!

You can get these badges of Ebay for $68 for the set of 3.

It is best with anything you buy to shop around.

You will find in most cases it is cheaper getting genuine parts from anywhere else but Holden.

[planetdavo]

It is best with anything you buy to shop around.
You will find in most cases it is cheaper getting genuine parts from anywhere else but Holden.
You started well by saying that it's best to shop around with anything, but then go down the path many do on here, and say that in most cases anywhere is cheaper than a dealer.
The reality is often somewhat different.....
Now back to where you started...SHOP AROUND!

[gasguz]

You started well by saying that it's best to shop around with anything, but then go down the path many do on here, and say that in most cases anywhere is cheaper than a dealer.
The reality is often somewhat different.....
Now back to where you started...SHOP AROUND!

ah my old nemesis LOL, I just won myself $5,

I see the 1 man army for the Holden parts team raises his head yet again. It was either going to be you or the other parts guy on here. I dont have to justify anything to you as I speak the truth

I am speaking from experience over many years, now back to where you started. You will also notice I said in "most cases" not all cases as you are implying

There should be "NO REASON" at all for a product to be dearer at a dealer than it is to buy it from an aftermarket supplier of exactly the same part that was purchased from Holden in the beginning. Why do you think there are heaps of genuine parts suppliers out there selling parts cheaper than what Holden does. (NVU & Holmart just to name a couple)

If it seems to be a common topic maybe there is some truth in it after all.

But I suppose you cant see this as you are standing by your employer, which is very loyal

cheers

[Dickie Knee]

ah my old nemesis LOL, I just won myself $5,



OK let stick to to topic at hand boys. The fact you posted this is prof you only posted to get a bite.


................. Why do you think there are heaps of genuine parts suppliers out there selling parts cheaper than what Holden does. (NVU & Holmart just to name a couple)......................................
cheers

NVU and holmarts main business is surplus and change over HSVi & HSV stock. They buy cheap because a lot of what they buy is large quantity and stuff Holden, HSV & HSVi would like to get rid of it quick. In saying this. this is not all of their business but it does help the buy price.

As for ebay do some research before bidding, I have seen tyre placards listed for $10 that sell at holden dealers for $5 ( even with mark up ).

[gasguz]

OK let stick to to topic at hand boys. The fact you posted this is prof you only posted to get a bite.



NVU and holmarts main business is surplus and change over HSVi & HSV stock. They buy cheap because a lot of what they buy is large quantity and stuff Holden, HSV & HSVi would like to get rid of it quick. In saying this. this is not all of their business but it does help the buy price.

As for ebay do some research before bidding, I have seen tyre placards listed for $10 that sell at holden dealers for $5 ( even with mark up ).

Dickie Knee, no fishing here, I was more getting at everytime someone says anything but good things about Holden parts either planetdavo or yourself jump on & say this is not the case. It is coming very predictable of you both. I only listed 2 suppliers & I had to make sure that they were sponsors or I would get in trouble :werd: due to them not being sponsors. There are a heap of others out there to get cheaper parts from, do your shopping.

I will also reply to your comment early on about price fixing that you say Holden will get into trouble for if they sell parts at the same price. This does not come unto play if the company falls under the 1 banner. Mc Donalds is a franchise business just as Holden is, but do you see maccas charging different prices for a Big Mac?? no they are all the same, Supercheap etc are in the same boat. Price fixing is when seperate corporations & manufactures band together to cap the price & give the consumer no other choice but to pay the price they are charging (as there is no where else to get the product), so best you know the facts before shooting people down, sort of like Boral & Pioneer a few years ago.

You also missed where I said in "most cases" not all cases

But at the end of the day, just shop around for pricing

cheers

[planetdavo]

ah my old nemesis LOL, I just won myself $5,

I see the 1 man army for the Holden parts team raises his head yet again. It was either going to be you or the other parts guy on here. I dont have to justify anything to you as I speak the truth

I am speaking from experience over many years, now back to where you started. You will also notice I said in "most cases" not all cases as you are implying

There should be "NO REASON" at all for a product to be dearer at a dealer than it is to buy it from an aftermarket supplier of exactly the same part that was purchased from Holden in the beginning. Why do you think there are heaps of genuine parts suppliers out there selling parts cheaper than what Holden does. (NVU & Holmart just to name a couple)

If it seems to be a common topic maybe there is some truth in it after all.

But I suppose you cant see this as you are standing by your employer, which is very loyal

cheers
Whatever....
Sorry, are you important to me?
I see you're having a go at DK as well!
Maybe your opinion will mean something when you actually know the industry.
Bye.

[gasguz]

Whatever....
Sorry, are you important to me?
I see you're having a go at DK as well!
Maybe your opinion will mean something when you actually know the industry.
Bye.

Not having a go at all planetweirdo, just stating facts. Thats all

No you are not important to anyone other than yourself (oh hang on though you are validated so that means everything), but thanks for asking. How do you know I am not in the industry or have been in the past??? or do you know everything about everyone else also. Get out from behind your little parts desk it is a big world out here. But to be honest selling cars & car parts is not for me anymore but from the looks of things it suits you down to a tee. Keep up the great work!!!!!

BTW my Uncle owns 2 dealerships, so I do know what I am talking about.

Parts are still expensive from Holden dealers so I still stand by saying shop around & you will save cash.

At least DK is impartial & can see both sides unlike your one eyed self

Cheers

[planetdavo]

Again, whatever...
Dickie showed how little you actually know about the industry.
Continue your little bitch session against me if you want, but I don't need to deal with people like you.
I'll continue to deal with the people that appreciate my honest answers, and continue to thank me.