Suspension whoes

[Wolfe]

I posted mid month regarding my suspension, anyway to cut a long story short my car will be rectified on Tuesday, except that the mechnic that stuffed up in the first place says that I have no right to the original springs & struts as he is replacing them. I feel that I own the old parts & have every right to them. I then found out that the guy I bought the car from wants them as he will use them in his sons VS. I don't mean to be harsh but I assumed that when I bought the car everything regarding the car was mine even old parts.:dancenana:

[SV346]

yeah, next he'll want the engine the c..t, tell them to get f..ked and challenge it hard if you want the stuff, you paid for it, they let it go...

[vxssgurl]

I posted mid month regarding my suspension, anyway to cut a long story short my car will be rectified on Tuesday, except that the mechnic that stuffed up in the first place says that I have no right to the original springs & struts as he is replacing them. I feel that I own the old parts & have every right to them. I then found out that the guy I bought the car from wants them as he will use them in his sons VS. I don't mean to be harsh but I assumed that when I bought the car everything regarding the car was mine even old parts.:dancenana:

To my way of thinking, you own the car, which includes the sum of its parts... and unless your deal for the new suspension includes a discount for trade-in... then even after they are removed from the vehicle, they are still your parts.

However, without knowing ALL the details regarding what happened in the first instance so that it now requires rectification... for instance, if these parts were fitted by this guy, and were dodgy, and haven't been paid for, then yeah, they are his parts, not yours, and he has a right to have them back after they have bene removed.

Still, good luck with getting your ride sorted!

[R Dirty 3]

If they are parts he bolted on, they are his.
If the parts were on the car when you originally took the vehicle to him, then they are your parts and he has no claim to them. I work for a Suspension shop in perth and we always give old parts back no matter of condition! If the customer dsoesnt want them back, we simply turf them in a metal bin so we always try to encourage people to take there old parts.

[Wolfe]

They were parts that were on the car when I bought the car. I found out who did the suspension & it was Pedders they were even obliging enough to supply me with a copy of the invoice to back myself up if the time arose to confront the mechanic, well the time arose.
What happened was when I bought the car it had a roadworthy, but due to circumstances I could not afford to transfer the car across to my name. Anyway when I took the car back to the guy who supplied the roadworthy then all of a sudden it is too low so I said well you oked it last time you can rectify it now, they did but took the car back to stock which is not what was agreed upon.Now it goes back on Tuesday to be lowered but not as low as it was as it was a pain to even get it over normal height speed bumps, so I don't mind if it comes up 10-15 mm. But not stock. So most of you think they are mine ie Springs & struts.:dancenana:

[SS Enforcer]

If you drove in and PAID for a new set of springs and shocks you are entitled to keep the parts that were replaced. In fact if he keeps em it is theft if he refuses to give them back. But if your making him make it legal at HIS expense then they are his.
You arn't entitled to anything you havn't paid for.

cheers

[mustanger]

By the sounds of it ,he did rectify your problem. You can`t have your cake and eat it too. If you had paid for the replacement parts ,then you would be entitled to your original parts. But by the sounds of it ,you have gone back to get it rectified( your words not mine) and he has just done that....Cheers John

[Wolfe]

By the sounds of it ,he did rectify your problem. You can`t have your cake and eat it too. If you had paid for the replacement parts ,then you would be entitled to your original parts. But by the sounds of it ,you have gone back to get it rectified( your words not mine) and he has just done that....Cheers John

Yes he did rectify it but not as was discussed or promised. The reason that I am soo mad about this is that the mechanic is friend of the guy I bought the car from, and he wants the springs & struts for his sons VS.:dancenana:

[mustanger]

You didn`t actually post what was discussed or promised with the repairer.

It looks like the repairer has some lowered springs that he might sell.:hmmm: :argue:

[Wolfe]

As per my previous post regarding my suspension whoes, I am confused. Do I own the springs & struts that were on my car when I purchased it or because the 1st roadworthy was obtained (mind you an obviously dodgy one) & then have to be rectified does the mechanic own them? When I took the car back 2 months later the car was too low. I haven't touched the car except for normal maintenance, haven't had the money. When the roadworthy guy (boss) realised that his guys had given a roadworthy that was not correct he was the one who said that the car would be rectified ie: not so low BUT it was agreed upon that as it was bought customized, dumped that it would be bought back up to a legal BUT NOT stock height. Can anyone give me advise as I am confused. I thought that the way I bought my car anything on it was mine. By the way the springs put back on the car were second hand, Pedders confirmed this. Original price for dumping $1800. :dancenana:

[VooDoo]

You own the car. If you purchased new suspension, you STILL own your old stuff UNLESS it was clearly pointed out it was being traded in and a discount involved.

BTW, you could have posted this in your existing thread.

[Wolfe]

Wasn't sure I had made myself clear. So I own the previous springs & struts?:dancenana:

[JezzaB]

Wasn't sure I had made myself clear. So I own the previous springs & struts?:dancenana:

Just like Voodoo said. If you didnt make a deal for a discount for them to keep the gear, its yours.

Jez

[planetdavo]

I agree this should have been continued off the other thread. It's still the same subject.
Anyway, the only cure seems to be you taking it to VCAT possibly, but I've been there, done that, and it's a serious inconvenience in many ways, even though I won.
The way I see it is that you bought a car with SECONDHAND suspension parts. It doesn't really matter if they were one week old, or one year old, as long as whatever gets fitted is roadworthy. If the original roadworthy had knocked back the suspension, the seller would have had to fix the suspension, and you would not have access to these parts anyway! As you haven't paid to fix this up, which a number of other people have said to you, I don't believe you have a right to these parts either.
All you can really do is involve legal angles re the selling of an unroadworthy vehicle or the supply of a roadworthy certificate that didn't comply, but just give up on trying to get this suspension back. Why do you really want it back anyway (besides your anger at some other car getting it)? Are you happy with the car?
If you are happy with the car, LET IT GO.

[VooDoo]

OK ive read the other thread and correct me if im wrong

You bought a car
It had $1800 worth of Pedders suspension already on it.
It had a dodgy roady done on it in order to sell it.
You didnt transfer the car, dodgy roady ran out.
You went back to the dodgy place and they now say the suspension isnt legal and needs to be fixed
You demand it rectified.
They agree to swap the springs from illegal ones to ones that are legal (and obviously not as low as they used to be)
You got new springs that made the car legal height.
You want to keep both sets of springs.

Correct??

Is pedders and the dodgy roady place the same?
Do you want it legal or illegal?
Are they as good as the old illegal ones? ie same brand etc

[mustanger]

You have to remember that roadworthy certificates are only valid for 30 days.

You have stated that you went back 2 months later. I think that this repairer was trying to help you out,as you were the third party involved. He did change the springs because you were not happy and maybe cover himself as well. As stated before,you did not pay for these springs ,therefore you are not entitled to the old ones. Sure you you can get legal people involved but it isn`t worth it. The way I see it,is you are tyring to get two lots of springs and you haven`t directly paid for any of them.:teach:

[Wolfe]

OK ive read the other thread and correct me if im wrong

You bought a car
It had $1800 worth of Pedders suspension already on it.
It had a dodgy roady done on it in order to sell it.
You didnt transfer the car, dodgy roady ran out.
You went back to the dodgy place and they now say the suspension isnt legal and needs to be fixed
You demand it rectified.
They agree to swap the springs from illegal ones to ones that are legal (and obviously not as low as they used to be)
You got new springs that made the car legal height.
You want to keep both sets of springs.

Correct??

Is pedders and the dodgy roady place the same?
Do you want it legal or illegal?
Are they as good as the old illegal ones? ie same brand etc

No they are not. They are non descript ie: Pedders can't even tell the brand of replacements & I don't want to keep both sets only the ones originally on the car at time of purchase.
You are correct except that it was agreed upon that the car would not be taken back to stock as I had bought it dumped but lifted from 90mm to 100-110mm as I have stated before it was a pain over speed humps etc.
I didn't get new springs or struts ( Pedders confirmed this) the mechanic didn't even bother to clean the ones he put in just spray painted the top of them which as I said before Pedders confirmed.
I don't really need or want the old ones but has become a matter of principle as because I am a single female the guys seem to take a "she will accept this attitude". I don't want to be a pain but on the same token I don't want to be taken advantage of either.:dancenana:


You have to remember that roadworthy certificates are only valid for 30 days.

You have stated that you went back 2 months later. I think that this repairer was trying to help you out,as you were the third party involved. He did change the springs because you were not happy and maybe cover himself as well. As stated before,you did not pay for these springs ,therefore you are not entitled to the old ones. Sure you you can get legal people involved but it isn`t worth it. The way I see it,is you are tyring to get two lots of springs and you haven`t directly paid for any of them.:teach:
OK I see your point but I DID pay for the springs & struts put in by Pedders as that was one of the selling points. I DO NOT want both sets back, I was just informed by Pedders that he shouldn't be keeping them as they are mine ie: on the car when I bought it.You are right that R/W are only valid for 30 days & it is probably no excuse but I have 4 daughters & one of them needed my financial help so it delayed the transfer, maybe I'm stupid but I felt it more important to help my daughter rather than transfer the car.
Anyway thanks for the input, I have alot to learn!:dancenana:

[VooDoo]

So why did the mechanic swap quality pedders (well, sort of quality) for crap 2nd hand? If you said you just wanted it legal i can see his reasoning. What id do is talk to the mechanic and let him know your not happy with the cheapo 2nd had gear and that you are going to put the pedders stuff back in and sort the height issue out yourself.

This does 2 things, you get your own items back, they are better than the crap thats in there plus you never need to deal with the dodgy mechanic again. Go back to PEDDERS and get some springs yourself. They are cheap and pedders sounds like they are more interested in helping than the dodgy mechanic.

[Wolfe]

Thanks for your help! I really do appreciate it. Your idea fixes all.:dancenana:
BTW the dancing nana? It's because I am a nanna! And happy to be one!