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NiSSAN_GTiR
02-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Can someone please tell me, to settle a debate with a mate.


What's the fastest STANDARD VE SS 1/4 mile time pulled so far?


I've been told they're pulling a 13.4 factory time?

jaykay
02-05-2007, 03:19 PM
I haven't heard of one on here that low....:teach: but I could be wrong...

Frenchy VX SS
02-05-2007, 03:55 PM
13.4 was with wheels mag.
Wouldnt surprise me if hey had a 'tuned' ss given to them by holden...

Altho, i have managed a 13.6 with a very crap launch with just CAI and rear pipes. And with the amount of SS's out there with different power figures stock, they could very well have pulled a 13.4
*edit - a good friend of mine had seen a red VE SS run a 13.50 at Kwinana that was reportedly stock. He looked over it and everything looked stock.
But one thing you cant see is if they have been tuned at all. There seems to be a popular thing with telling people your car is stock and running good times/power figures when in actual fact its been modified.*
One of those, 'see it, then beleive it'

mickve
02-05-2007, 04:12 PM
Hi i have an ssv and i averaged 13.8 sec except for one pass i got 13.5 but i couldnt get it again.That was stock 1000ks onit.

RED R8
02-05-2007, 04:36 PM
I am fairly certain Terry from MCE ran 13.5's in his VE GTS.

The_Senator
02-05-2007, 04:38 PM
Hi i have an ssv and i averaged 13.8 sec except for one pass i got 13.5 but i couldnt get it again.That was stock 1000ks onit.

Manual or Automatic?

Seen an Auto SSV with Cold Air and Tune run a 13.30 - So 13.5 stock is either "Stretching" things or a freaky motor...

CarlFST60L
02-05-2007, 04:52 PM
I am fairly certain Terry from MCE ran 13.5's in his VE GTS.

I ran 13.5 with 40C air temps as driven from the factory floor in my R8.

EnforcerSS ran 13.4 in his VE with modified air intake and lower rear tyre pressure without the spare tyre @ 40C same day as mine aboe (please correct me if im wrong Enforcer)

The_Senator
02-05-2007, 05:20 PM
There was an R8 with LESS THAN 400km on the clock at Kwinana 2 weeks ago that ran a best time of 13.33 - that was stock as a rock.

Rears at 22 PSI i believe. - But the R8's have 307kw, the SS' have 270 - 37kw makes a nice different.

Curtis-R
02-05-2007, 05:28 PM
13.9 @ 102MPH, Manual, Stock. 38 psi in the tyres too.

Most of the mags I have read are around the same time.

mickve
02-05-2007, 06:30 PM
13.5 was fully stock even had spare tyre and baby seat in car then i put full exhaust and got 13.4 and 13.5 every run then came tune and car runs consistent 12.8 12.9s best was 12.84 with 1.89 60ft all with full weight stock tyres , clutch etc.
I cant understand why the hsv arent getting better times stock they have better diff ratios plus 37 kw more i expected better from them.

transcend VUSS
02-05-2007, 06:47 PM
[QUOTE=Silver VE SS;902390]13.4 was with wheels mag.

*edit - a good friend of mine had seen a red VE SS run a 13.50 at Kwinana that was reportedly stock. He looked over it and everything looked stock.

I think that was my mate ryan. It is Stock as a rock 6 speed manual.
.....well it wont be when he wacks the supercharger on it :drool:

CarlFST60L
02-05-2007, 07:03 PM
13.5 was fully stock even had spare tyre and baby seat in car then i put full exhaust and got 13.4 and 13.5 every run then came tune and car runs consistent 12.8 12.9s best was 12.84 with 1.89 60ft all with full weight stock tyres , clutch etc.
I cant understand why the hsv arent getting better times stock they have better diff ratios plus 37 kw more i expected better from them.

My R8 13.5 at 40C on a 2.2 60ft, and did 2.0 60ft earlier that day, so, if you say it was 20C i think it could do 13.1 stock as a rock from the factory

VZSSUTEDUDE
02-05-2007, 07:25 PM
would an ss ute being lighter run quicker or is it at a traction disadvantage

StevieD
02-05-2007, 07:33 PM
would an ss ute being lighter run quicker or is it at a traction disadvantage

We'll all find out once the VE ute is released

VZSSUTEDUDE
02-05-2007, 07:38 PM
id kill to know the time for a new VZ SS ute L98 manual cant bloody find it anywhere...not even MOTOR has it

mustanger
02-05-2007, 08:11 PM
would an ss ute being lighter run quicker or is it at a traction disadvantage

Going by previous utes,there is no real advantage.:teach:

ballbreaker
02-05-2007, 08:43 PM
I cant understand SSV qiucker than GTS,with the extra 37 kw + 275 rears witch the rubber width it should make a big diffrence.I own a stock f6 auto & run 13.40 witch is rated @ 270 kw from what u guys are saying with the 270 kw ssv & the times look like it too,But i did have 2 runs with a black GTS manual left it a car an a half both times.whats the GO with the GTS .

mustanger
02-05-2007, 08:49 PM
I cant understand SSV qiucker than GTS,with the extra 37 kw + 275 rears witch the rubber width it should make a big diffrence.I own a stock f6 auto & run 13.40 witch is rated @ 270 kw from what u guys are saying with the 270 kw ssv & the times look like it too,But i did have 2 runs with a black GTS manual left it a car an a half both times.whats the GO with the GTS .

Maybe he wasn`t paying attention and was playing with his MRC :dance:

ballbreaker
02-05-2007, 08:58 PM
Maybe he wasn`t paying attention and was playing with his MRC :dance:

mate wasnt having a go at the car ,but he was wide awake after the first run.Didnt want to have a 3rd run.

Alex(AUS)
02-05-2007, 09:07 PM
13.5 was fully stock even had spare tyre and baby seat in car then i put full exhaust and got 13.4 and 13.5 every run then came tune and car runs consistent 12.8 12.9s best was 12.84 with 1.89 60ft all with full weight stock tyres , clutch etc.
I cant understand why the hsv arent getting better times stock they have better diff ratios plus 37 kw more i expected better from them.

What MPH are you running and for that matter what MPH is everyone else running? Who tuned your car?

I think we will see quicker and quicker times as the weather cools down and the VEs clock up some kays ...

Alex

H8RICE
02-05-2007, 10:22 PM
Took my VE SS 6spd out to WSID tonight and done a best of 14.156 @ 101.16 MPH.

2.300 60ft

Thats with the rear resonators removed and k&n panel filter. Also have a full stereo install in the boot and running 20's with 30psi in them. It is also lowered.

Was hoping for a better time but i think the suspension wont be doing me any favours with just stock struts and ultra lows in them

CV860L
02-05-2007, 10:29 PM
Im pretty sure the 13.4 was done by Motor rather than Wheels and a 5.2 0-100km/h.
To date I don't think any of the mags have bettered that in a HSV.:werd:

ballbreaker
02-05-2007, 10:45 PM
Took my VE SS 6spd out to WSID tonight and done a best of 14.156 @ 101.16 MPH.

2.300 60ft

Thats with the rear resonators removed and k&n panel filter. Also have a full stereo install in the boot and running 20's with 30psi in them. It is also lowered.

Was hoping for a better time but i think the suspension wont be doing me any favours with just stock struts and ultra lows in them
Hi mate auto or manual?

Frenchy VX SS
02-05-2007, 10:48 PM
Im pretty sure the 13.4 was done by Motor rather than Wheels and a 5.2 0-100km/h.
To date I don't think any of the mags have bettered that in a HSV.:werd:

Yeah your right, it was motor.
Motor - wheels
same same ;)

mickve
02-05-2007, 11:27 PM
109 mph is the best but i ran 12.8 at 106 mph

russo performance did the tune on my car, now we are going to attempt to build otrcai and do the maff tune.


Took my VE SS 6spd out to WSID tonight and done a best of 14.156 @ 101.16 MPH.

2.300 60ft

Thats with the rear resonators removed and k&n panel filter. Also have a full stereo install in the boot and running 20's with 30psi in them. It is also lowered.

Was hoping for a better time but i think the suspension wont be doing me any favours with just stock struts and ultra lows in them

13.5 easy all you nead is to drop 60ft times i had 1.89 so that puts you down to 13.7 although they are hard cars to launch of the line.

Curtis-R
03-05-2007, 09:15 AM
although they are hard cars to launch of the line.

Especially when your clutch pedal sticks to the floor!

:rolleyes:

WA VTGEN111
03-05-2007, 09:49 AM
My R8 13.5 at 40C on a 2.2 60ft, and did 2.0 60ft earlier that day, so, if you say it was 20C i think it could do 13.1 stock as a rock from the factory

Last Fast Friday here in Perth an Evoke M6 R8 Clubby ran 13.12 @ 106 with 1000 k's on the clock as delivered minus spare wheel.

EXCESSV
03-05-2007, 10:05 AM
Last Fast Friday here in Perth an Evoke M6 R8 Clubby ran 13.12 @ 106 with 1000 k's on the clock as delivered minus spare wheel.

would that have been Debs R8?? :stick:

CarlFST60L
03-05-2007, 10:12 AM
Last Fast Friday here in Perth an Evoke M6 R8 Clubby ran 13.12 @ 106 with 1000 k's on the clock as delivered minus spare wheel.

My math adds up then :thumbsup:

Martin_D
03-05-2007, 10:21 AM
13.0 @ 109mph
Full weight stock tyred SSV-A6
Only mods - Street Tuna CAI, Tune, HM 2.5 inch Cat Back (you can see the mods in Street Machine Commodores) :)

Alex(AUS)
03-05-2007, 10:44 AM
Im pretty sure the 13.4 was done by Motor rather than Wheels and a 5.2 0-100km/h.
To date I don't think any of the mags have bettered that in a HSV.:werd:

Wheels (October and December, 2006) ran 13.4@107.5@Calder on both occasions in a Senator. I have the issues ... 107.5 isnt sitting around for a stock car. But then again, the cars could have been HSV specials for the mags :D


Last Fast Friday here in Perth an Evoke M6 R8 Clubby ran 13.12 @ 106 with 1000 k's on the clock as delivered minus spare wheel.

What was the best pass in terms of MPH?

Thanks,

Alex

SS Enforcer
03-05-2007, 11:22 AM
I ran 13.5 with 40C air temps as driven from the factory floor in my R8.

EnforcerSS ran 13.4 in his VE with modified air intake and lower rear tyre pressure without the spare tyre @ 40C same day as mine aboe (please correct me if im wrong Enforcer)

Yep exactly right Carl , track temp was 59C not conducive to fast times either. Should be good for a 12 with a tune and cool weather.

cheers

H8RICE
03-05-2007, 04:48 PM
Hi mate auto or manual?


Its a manual.

I couldnt get it to launch any good i think i need to get some proper rubber under the back and try again.

Three
04-05-2007, 01:39 AM
I found the motor times a little odd... A 13.4 second 0-400m is better/equal to many LS2 HSVs that have been tested. Also, the trap speed of 175kph seems a little high for a stock VE SS.

SS Enforcer
04-05-2007, 04:12 AM
I found the motor times a little odd... A 13.4 second 0-400m is better/equal to many LS2 HSVs that have been tested. Also, the trap speed of 175kph seems a little high for a stock VE SS.

Why ...... mine did the 13.4 in extreme heat stock tyres, stock exhaust small intake mod minus the spare wheel. On a cold Melbourne night at Calder they Motor Mag probably should have run quicker. My trap speed was 169 kph, car was also hitting rev limiter before it shifted which then bogged it for 1/2 sec or so .

There will be plenty of unopened L98's running 12's shortly I think with just a tune.

cheers

peachypete82
05-05-2007, 12:23 PM
Mine ran 13.30 with a CAI, extractors and new cats (same mufflers), and tune (ve ssv a6). On that pass it did a 60 footer of 2.17 then i did a pass after that with 60 footer 1.98 but stuffed the gear shift and ran 13.5 so with the right pass it should run 13.1 or 13.2 or somethin.

best thing is it still sounds stock on idle and cruse but it a little louder when your on the gas, which is great cause it still feels nice n quiet and comfy with no drone (and looks stock with stock pipes).

I think it would be hard to crack the 12s reliably and consistently with a SSV A6 without more mods than pipes, cai and a tune. When they finally get a good gearbox tune up it may be possible to run 12's but the 20 degrees drop in timing during gear change slows you up heaps and i think this alone will be a damper on running faster times.

It is also obvious that the SS manuals are the quickest , with the SSV's attracting more weight being marginally slower. The Autos at the moment are obviously slower again, which is probably down to gear ratios and the abuse protection in the factory computer setup.

Once the gearshifts are improved the autos should be as fast as the manuals but at the moment manuals do seam to run faster times, especially in SS trim, no SSV trim. Hence alot of them runnin around 13.4 stock

Martin_D
05-05-2007, 11:08 PM
We would reckon with our tune and CAI that a 12.5 from a stock tyred full weight car would be possible with 109.8mph trap if trans programming was on the go :cool: (hint: 13.0 at 109.8 now) :)

ballbreaker
05-05-2007, 11:36 PM
Mine ran 13.30 with a CAI, extractors and new cats (same mufflers), and tune (ve ssv a6). On that pass it did a 60 footer of 2.17 then i did a pass after that with 60 footer 1.98 but stuffed the gear shift and ran 13.5 so with the right pass it should run 13.1 or 13.2 or somethin.

best thing is it still sounds stock on idle and cruse but it a little louder when your on the gas, which is great cause it still feels nice n quiet and comfy with no drone (and looks stock with stock pipes).

I think it would be hard to crack the 12s reliably and consistently with a SSV A6 without more mods than pipes, cai and a tune. When they finally get a good gearbox tune up it may be possible to run 12's but the 20 degrees drop in timing during gear change slows you up heaps and i think this alone will be a damper on running faster times.

It is also obvious that the SS manuals are the quickest , with the SSV's attracting more weight being marginally slower. The Autos at the moment are obviously slower again, which is probably down to gear ratios and the abuse protection in the factory computer setup.

Once the gearshifts are improved the autos should be as fast as the manuals but at the moment manuals do seam to run faster times, especially in SS trim, no SSV trim. Hence alot of them runnin around 13.4 stock
Hi mate so is the GTS slower than the SS.First time at the drags,your best time 13.3 not bad but it is modded at anyway u look at it.CHEERS