k & N Aircharger - who has one??

[VT_5l]

Hello guys

just wondering who here has a K & N aircharger intake on their Ls1s? Im thinking of purchasing one and just after some feed back on this product.

thanks

[BLACK 346]

I haven't had the K&N version, but did have the unifilter sealed pod
for about 12 months. I would strongly recommend skipping that
phase of modification and go straight to otrcai, I would have in
hind sight ;)

[Bomi]

Mate it was my first mod and it makes a difference, its has to as it has a larger filter surface area.

It sounds great under the bonnett and gives you noticeable throttle response.

If you were thinking of going the way of a OTRCAI then I would not buy one, the Air charger that is, they are about $360 and the avaerage OTRCAI is about $550 to $600, they are great on the track.

Yes they have a smaller filter surface but you take it out for the track or for "other" times you need it.

Hope this helps mate.


Troy :)

[GMMAD]

i wouldn't bother either go the OTR or 2 hole mod MCAI

[vxclubsport569]

I have a stock VX Clubby with K & N I got from Supercheap Auto, just the standard K & N Replacement for about $70/$80 (on special). I noticed a slight difference and the extended life is worth it. Its probably value for money for the price but don't expect a huge difference to performance or economy

[VT_5l]

Mate it was my first mod and it makes a difference, its has to as it has a larger filter surface area.

It sounds great under the bonnett and gives you noticeable throttle response.

If you were thinking of going the way of a OTRCAI then I would not buy one, the Air charger that is, they are about $360 and the avaerage OTRCAI is about $550 to $600, they are great on the track.

Yes they have a smaller filter surface but you take it out for the track or for "other" times you need it.

Hope this helps mate.


Troy :)


do you have any pics of your set up? i want to see how it looks under the bonnet..also with


Yes they have a smaller filter surface but you take it out for the track or for "other" times you need it.


what do you mean as in the K & N one cant be taken off once fitted? Generally speaking though, which one has more bang for buck and also a legal modification? i always thought pod filters where illegal?

[angelo.vs]

what do you mean as in the K & N one cant be taken off once fitted? Generally speaking though, which one has more bang for buck and also a legal modification? i always thought pod filters where illegal?


The K & N and every other intake mod can definitely be taken off so no need to worry about that. The K&N pod is legal because it is enclosed. Do a search on it and Im sure you will be able to find photos no problems.

I would go OTR if you can or funds permit as it appears to be the best intake. I have gone the MCAI 2 hole mod and GTS pipe instead of the Aircharger kit purely because I have read some bad reviews.

[VT_5l]

Hmm yes i was reading some earlier threads about the SS growler set up too that seems like an option too though i just want some recent opinions and also a pod set up that is legal.

[Crusty]

Some of the resident tuners may be able to comment further here but I've heard reliably that the aircharger kit see's some huge intake temperatures (we're talking nearly twice stock airbox here) which of course makes the PCM pull timing from the engine, effectively dropping your cars power not increasing it. They seem to suffer from heatsoak really badly and even a quick drive doesn't seem to bring temps down very fast. Hopefully someone with a little more know can pipe in and provide better info... I know HRT8 has experienced issues first hand.

[muzzavyss]

i have a k&n aircharger kit on and i like it i got it brand new of ebay for $200 u can notice it abit i love the noise it puts out when i boot it its hard 2 discribe i didnt expect it to sound like it does!!!!! ill get a pic tomorrow if ya want it look pretty tidy!!

[DIEFASTER*WH]

I fully recommend the K&N Aircharger kit. Ive had mine for a year & from the moment I bolted it on there was a big power increase & wicked intake sound. From what I've read, they are also legal because they are enclosed/shielded. Never had any problem with heatsoak. Drove 45mins into Adelaide the other day in busy traffic & literally drove straight onto the dyno @ D&T (city). WH cranked out 221rwkw (297rwhp). Cars got pacemaker tri-y's, twin hi flow cats, twin 2.5 exhaust, 9mm Top Gun leads, plat. plugs & a K&N AIRCHARGER KIT. No restriction from the K&N... Good value for money & good power gains. Fit some 3" ducting up in your front bar (old vacum cleaner hose is adequate) & have the duct point 2"s away from the pod. Good, cheap CAI. OTRCAI are good though. Just I haven't got one :p


i have a k&n aircharger kit on and i like it i got it brand new of ebay for $200 u can notice it abit i love the noise it puts out when i boot it its hard 2 discribe i didnt expect it to sound like it does!!!!! ill get a pic tomorrow if ya want it look pretty tidy!!

It sounds like a deep growl IMO

[vpstroker]

ive got one on my vy ss ute and made a shit load of difference changed the shift points on the box and run a 13.4 @102mph pass at the creek .
whole car standard except the charger kit and shift pts on box changed from 6000rpm to 5000rpm

[muzzavyss]

it sounds like a exhaust note only not as loud and more hollow when ya give it:driving:

it sounds like a exhaust note only not as loud and more hollow when ya give it:driving: and commin form the engine bay

[hRTHSV]

Not sure of the K & N pod set up but i currently have SS induction growler pod, it is unable to be seen when you open the bonnet as it is fully enclosed apart from the open area on the back of the headlight. Made a noticable difference to my car and sounds great.

[Invasionss]

I have one & it was the first mod that i done to the ute.

Whilst at the same time they are saving you money, they do increase airflow & the engine probably does ingest slightly more dust in the air. I don't care what anyone says about these filters. Just because they are pleated & have oil soaked cotton in between mesh & bigger surface media, it doesn't mean anything. These are just great for increased airflow & a bit more engine noise. I haven't had any increase in fuel economy at all.

The paper ones being a little more restrictive with the airflow actually reduce the dust ingestion into the engine.

I can't remember the link or thread subject. Maybe start searching champ!

[Bomi]

Mate what I was saying was the OTR filter can be taken out when you "need" to.


The K and N is also easily removed.


The OTR as far as I know are not legal and the K and N is but man, heaps of people run OTRs, they are the "wack on the track"

If I had my time again I would spend a bit more and get a OTRCAI.


Not to say the K and N are shite but the otr is better for power and air flow at speed.


Finaly, SS inductions, I have only ever heard them called SS reductions, say no more.



Troy :)

[GMMAD]

The OTR as far as I know are not legal and the K and N is







any open filter aren't legal ,so both are not legal

[Bomi]

The OTR as far as I know are not legal and the K and N is







any open filter aren't legal ,so both are not legal


The K and N is legal as it comes with a barrier that makes it inclosed in a little not so little box. They state that its legal on the box, not that can mean much but hey they say it is.


Troy :)

[DIEFASTER*WH]

A dude from D&T performance I was talking to had to take his ute through regency (RTA) in SA for a defect. So he removed a few things from the car just in case including a K&N Aircharger kit. He took the ute through the pits & the RTA bloke passed the car. So the dude said lucky he'd removed the K&N aircharger/pod etc. The RTA bloke said why did he bother, as long as it was enclosed the ute would have passed through with it on anyway!!! Hope he's right haha.

[GMMAD]

Mmmmm ,i know it is enclosed but only a barrier that stop hot air going in ,not fully enclosed

[DIEFASTER*WH]

Mmmmm ,i know it is enclosed but only a barrier that stop hot air going in ,not fully enclosed

Even though its not 100% sealed, from whats been explained to me its classed as an enclosed air filter because its shielded on the inside & all around the filter element. This also acts in reducing the induction noise somewhat (as its fully enclosed) - Enclosed, being that when the bonnet is shut the rubber strip on top of the K&N Aircharger shielding (supposedly) fits up against the under-bonnet & seals off the air filter (boxed in with 6 sides)....

[VT_5l]

any one know what these are worth coz im getting qouted 350 -600!!
Also can some one pleaseee post some pics up too of their systems!

[Bomi]

Man who the F is trying to charge you $600???

Seriously man!! Who?

DO NOT PAY THAT MUCH.

You can get them on eBay and at most good car shops for about $360, thats what I paid for mine mate.

Sorry no pics, took the barrier off mine when I went Maffless.

Troy :)

[Red CV8 R]

I have noticed the LS2 kit seems better sealed then the LS1 kit. Anyone know if the LS2 kit would still work on an LS1?

[muzzavyss]

GO ON EBAY i paid $220 brand new 2 my door!!! i will get a pic 2morrow i didnt get and spare daylight 2day:thumbsup:

[vpstroker]

any one know what these are worth coz im getting qouted 350 -600!!
Also can some one pleaseee post some pics up too of their systems!

that price would be supply and fit .you can by the kit straight from rocket for around $320 and intall your self only takes 40 odd minutes to do and a step by step diagram
i would love to post pics but cant at this stage as the forum doesnt allow me yet lol

[VT_5l]

im pretty sure rocket qouted me higher then that when i called..but maybe that was supply and fit....??

[muzzavyss]

took some pic's 4 ya today!

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/eng1.jpg
http://images.cainer.net//uploads/eng2.jpg
http://images.cainer.net//uploads/eng3.jpg

[DIEFASTER*WH]

Muzza!!! Rip that ninja turtle engine cover off quick before you're motor melts. I reckon you get @ least 1kw by taking that cover off haha :yup:

[muzzavyss]

haha yeah its comin off soon just in the prosess of lookin for the dual engine covers that i like off ebay:thumbsup:

[Crusty]

haha yeah its comin off soon just in the prosess of lookin for the dual engine covers that i like off ebay:thumbsup:

None is better than that f*cken turtle shell.

[VT_5l]

thanks for the pics muzza, did u notice any power gains? also what other mods you got??

[muzzavyss]

just the aircharger and a sureflo 3.5'' exhaust yeah u can notice abit of pickup its only auto but when i drop it it hits the rev limiter alot harder, when standerd it would change 2 second just be4 rev limiter

[VT_5l]

ok guys, i got qouted 395 + plus delviery for a K & N aircharger...hows this? Am i being ripped off??

thanks

[Crusty]

ok guys, i got qouted 395 + plus delviery for a K & N aircharger...hows this? Am i being ripped off??

thanks

$200 more would probably get you a really nice OTR.

[Bomi]

ok guys, i got qouted 395 + plus delviery for a K & N aircharger...hows this? Am i being ripped off??

thanks

As I said already, I paid about about $360, so being delivered thats not to bad.

I think you need to weigh the difference between OTR and KnN first.


Troy :)

[Delco]

Save your money and get a GTS airbox and pipe or a OTR , the K&N pipe is too small and the pod is totally unsealed , we see huge heatsoak issue with it , nearly as bad a rip off as the SS induction stuff.

[Crusty]

Save your money and get a GTS airbox and pipe or a OTR , the K&N pipe is too small and the pod is totally unsealed , we see huge heatsoak issue with it , nearly as bad a rip off as the SS induction stuff.

Apparently a stock HSV airbox has lower IAT's than the K & N Aircharger.

[Bomi]

Save your money and get a GTS airbox and pipe or a OTR , the K&N pipe is too small and the pod is totally unsealed , we see huge heatsoak issue with it , nearly as bad a rip off as the SS induction stuff.

Yep I agree but heat soak is 10* above ambiant and since I have wrapped heat shield tape around the IAT sensor its never more then 6*.

Now of course sitting in traffic it is much higher.


IMHO I reckon go the way of the OTR. I just got a PT copy off ebay for $199 ex postage.

Havent got it yet but will advise when I get it.


Troy :)

[VT_5l]

keep us informed well see how it goes

[birdman]

I am yet to see a cai that actually does what they say it will. Most jam more air into your stock shallow airbox and do little to improve performance. Rip offs of the K&N pod intake system are often made from alloy and heat soak all the engine heat robbing your intake of a cool charge. The K&N is made from a poly resin that resists heat soak and had a liftime filter warranty. They also guarantee a HP increase that varies from model to model. I think 6-8 hp rings a bell on a 5.7. The only cold air intake worth having is one with a turbo attached the rest are nothing more that expensive plastic.:

[BLACK 346]

I am yet to see a cai that actually does what they say it will. Most jam more air into your stock shallow airbox and do little to improve performance. Rip offs of the K&N pod intake system are often made from alloy and heat soak all the engine heat robbing your intake of a cool charge. The K&N is made from a poly resin that resists heat soak and had a liftime filter warranty. They also guarantee a HP increase that varies from model to model. I think 6-8 hp rings a bell on a 5.7. The only cold air intake worth having is one with a turbo attached the rest are nothing more that expensive plastic.:

I assume going by what you have said that you have not seen an
Over The Radiator CAI then :)

[dan-0]

Sorry to dig up an old post but will the air charger kit fit the V6 Alloytec?

[Vyboy]

I wouldnt bother just get a yt 4 inch maf pipe , a k&n panel filter and cut a bigger hole in your air box thats what ive done and works great and the cops wont pick it

[DIEFASTER*WH]

IMHO, just get a OTRCAI ($400). But I'm not sure if they sell them for V6's! (just never seen one). Ive gone from a K&N panel filter in the stock airbox ($80), to a K&N Aircharger kit ($360) & now Im getting an OTRCAI soon, as it seems more functional by taking air straight in from the front of the car. Also cleans up all the maf tube, pod filter & heat shielding that take up room in the engine bay. Hope this helps. Save you going the long way round like I have. K&N Aircharger is still not too bad though (IMO), better if you fit some ducting also...Wes

[BLACK 346]

IMHO, just get a OTRCAI ($400). But I'm not sure if they sell them for V6's! (just never seen one). Ive gone from a K&N panel filter in the stock airbox ($80), to a K&N Aircharger kit ($360) & now Im getting an OTRCAI soon, as it seems more functional by taking air straight in from the front of the car. Also cleans up all the maf tube, pod filter & heat shielding that take up room in the engine bay. Hope this helps. Save you going the long way round like I have. K&N Aircharger is still not too bad though (IMO), better if you fit some ducting also...Wes

I went the same circuitous route but with unifilter sealed pod
instead of K and N. You are dead right in what you say imho :yup:

[DIEFASTER*WH]

I went the same circuitous route but with unifilter sealed pod
instead of K and N. You are dead right in what you say imho :yup:

Cheers mate. Would have saved a few $$$ by just getting an OTR straight up. Had a look at Brads VY (@Enhanced Auto) OTR & thought how much room I'll have when the aircharger kit is replaced. Be easier to fix the leaking pwr steering lines then. Might be able to see the alternator too lol.