VE SV6 - want more kW!

[PhantomVE]

Hi,

Ive just bought a new VE SV6 and have put on twin Supacats. Im going to put in a K&N air filter tomorrow and am looking at also putting on extractors. Apparently they aren't out for the VE SV6 yet (still being tested), my question is - what kind of kw increase should I expect (currently at around 200 with the Supacats and apparently the air filter will increase that by another 7kw).

What other mods can be easily and cheaply added to get more grunt?

[RED R8]

6.0L.............:hide:

[EddieVE06]

Hi,
I have one myself, from what i have heard there are no headers available yet, in terms of exhaust nothing much at there also unless your happy to have them play around with it. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone but I was told the dual exhaust on the sv6 is the same as the v8's?

There is a tune out for the alloytec which is around $990. Check under Castle Hill Exhaust they did some testing on a VZ SV6. got some good results. VCM Australasia i believe are the guys who have developed it with hp tuners.

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=74518&highlight=alloytec

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=74691&highlight=alloytec

try these for a start...keep us poor 6 potters updated if you hear something

[Lofty]

i was going to say 2 more cylinders.

But what about a supercharger or turbo???????:driving:

[bsbozzy]

Im sure i read it here, Street Tuna begins TT work on the allotec soon

[paul05]

Hi,

Ive just bought a new VE SV6 and have put on twin Supacats. Im going to put in a K&N air filter tomorrow and am looking at also putting on extractors. Apparently they aren't out for the VE SV6 yet (still being tested), my question is - what kind of kw increase should I expect (currently at around 200 with the Supacats and apparently the air filter will increase that by another 7kw).

What other mods can be easily and cheaply added to get more grunt?

buy an aurion trd supercharged or a 6.0 lt:p

[PhantomVE]

Cheers!

According to DandT performance (see their webiste - cant post it yet) here in Adelaide (the guys who put the twin supacats on for me) it will be a couple of months before the extractors are ready - hopefully i'll be the first here to get them fitted (feel like a guiney pig!) but at a discount I'm promised....

Another 2 cylinders Lofty? With the Supacats, K&N airfilter and extractors....am hoping for around 245-250kW - getting close to the V8 but cheaper!!

[EXCESSV]

Another 2 cylinders Lofty? With the Supacats, K&N airfilter and extractors....am hoping for around 245-250kW - getting close to the V8 but cheaper!!
no offence mate but i'd like to see that power figure...post up some dyno sheets when its done...
are you talking about fly wheel KW or rear wheel KW???

another guy on the forum with a VE SV6 manual pulled 130rwkw....so if you can double that with extractors, exhaust and air filter then us boys with v8s should be pulling 400rwkw with your combination :p

[igniton]

why didn"t you buy a V8 they were only $5000 more.
you will spend more than that trying to buy bolt on HP?

[Tron2004]

Cheers!

According to DandT performance (see their webiste - cant post it yet) here in Adelaide (the guys who put the twin supacats on for me) it will be a couple of months before the extractors are ready - hopefully i'll be the first here to get them fitted (feel like a guiney pig!) but at a discount I'm promised....

Another 2 cylinders Lofty? With the Supacats, K&N airfilter and extractors....am hoping for around 245-250kW - getting close to the V8 but cheaper!!
I think just a tad too ambitious with those kw figures there VESV6Evoke.


no offence mate but i'd like to see that power figure...post up some dyno sheets when its done...
are you talking about fly wheel KW or rear wheel KW???

another guy on the forum with a VE SV6 manual pulled 130rwkw....so if you can double that with extractors, exhaust and air filter then us boys with v8s should be pulling 400rwkw with your combination :p
What he said. :rofl:

[BLACK 346]

Who knows, maybe D and T's dyno will give you that power, even
if the mods don't.

[jaykay]

are you talking about fly wheel KW or rear wheel KW???

I'm sure he's meaning fly wheel Dean.... :teach:

[BLACKWAGON]

ofcourse he is

[SV8er]

I'm sure he's meaning fly wheel Dean.... :teach:

Has to be , cant be rwkw With that combo i would say

[crtx]

should of spend the extra coin and got a v8, your going to spend stack load more on mods and get bugger all gain.

[Wonky]

Cheers!

According to DandT performance (see their webiste - cant post it yet) here in Adelaide (the guys who put the twin supacats on for me) it will be a couple of months before the extractors are ready - hopefully i'll be the first here to get them fitted (feel like a guiney pig!) but at a discount I'm promised....

Another 2 cylinders Lofty? With the Supacats, K&N airfilter and extractors....am hoping for around 245-250kW - getting close to the V8 but cheaper!!
You're kidding aren't you, even in flywheel terms. :eek: An auto VE SV6 had a run at what turned into a dyno day at Chev's last Sat and ran mid 120 rwkw from memory. Obviously a manual won't lose as much but expecting 55 to 60 kw from what amounts to exhaust mods on a V6 seems a touch optimistic.

[EXCESSV]

I'm sure he's meaning fly wheel Dean.... :teach:
still John....195fwkw stock and he thinks from extractors and catback and K&N filter he will have 250fwkw...thats a 55fwkw gain from so little mods on a V6

good luck mate and please post dyno results. would like to see how it all goes

EDIT...^^^what Wonky said above...too optimistic me thinks

[ShanghaiVZ]

220-230fwkw max! and that's with a tune!

[smokiebbear]

All that needs to be said has been said i think. I was also going to quote the 240kw but nah i think we all know most guys here are making that at the rears. Anyhow we shouldn't be here to take pot shots at each other. Think of it this way at least he owns a HOLDEN! Hope those mods give you the best bang for bucks money can buy! Maybe you can show them doof doof boys how to make a run from it with the ol SV6 sleeper at the lights:D I mean wouldn't you s*&t if a SV6 pulled up next to your bog stock ls1 and left you at the lights:D Ha Ha that'd be awesome to see :D

[macca_779]

I mean wouldn't you s*&t if a SV6 pulled up next to your bog stock ls1 and left you at the lights:D Ha Ha that'd be awesome to see :D

Not many bog stock LS1's on here though, so not something to really worry about unless a blown aloyanchor rolls up. I've actually had the odd alloyanchor try and have a go at me at the lights. In my 5L I have a go just to show them the old girl still has a bit in her. Hasn't come up when I've been in my Senator although I won't even bother wasting my fuel when it does happen.

[smokiebbear]

Yet it would be funny. But i'm tryin to be positive here i mean 99% of us here wouldn't waste that sort of $$ on a 6 pot but hey if the guys havin a red hot go then we should be trying to help not poke fun as you can only work with what you've got i suppose. But also in saying that i love my v8 and my advice would be sell the 6 count your losses and buy a earlier model vy etc ss or clubby and that will get you more rwkw than spending the same on that 6 banger. Thats just my 2c

[muzza]

In addition to what has been suggested (extractors, exhaust, tune) I would probably go for a shorter diff to make better use of the good power available in the mid-top of the alloytech rev range.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the tested figures i've seen in a mag for the VE SV6 were 0-100 in 7.4 secs and 400m in around 15.5secs, and having driven one for a good spell they are definitely dozey in the bottom half of the rev range.

The stock diff man or auto is 2.92 - same as the VE (V8) 6 speed auto. A 3.45 as fitted to the VE V8 manual would wake it up some and close up the gear ratios a bit, at the slight expense of shifting gears a bit more frequently and using some more petrol - and also assuming you can get someone to fix the computer software for the new ratio.

But really - just buy a stock V8 and go 0-100 in under 6 secs and 400m in under 14 secs (manual - add a few 10ths for an auto?). Cost what - $5K more new, way less in a year or two? Save the money you would spend on the mods now and invest it in blue chip stocks - that'll pay the difference!

[SV346]

I reckon its pretty cool going a ve sv6 and giving it a mod, something different and rarely trecked :) If i had one id be aiming at mods to improve low/mid range specifically, and any top end benefits would just be the expected! :) somthing like try y headers, tune, intake, and possibly a cam. The V6's would be awesome with a stronger wider powerband.

[FANG IT 350]

245/250kw,yeah rite keep dreaming mate,if it was tt id beleive it.:werd:

[ShanghaiVZ]

Anyone remember the CAPA supercharger on a certain black SV6? what a sleeper! give you boys a run for ya money :p

[Tron2004]

Anyone remember the CAPA supercharger on a certain black SV6? what a sleeper! give you boys a run for ya money :p
We're getting a bit away from what VESV6Evoke said that started all this...


With the Supacats, K&N airfilter and extractors....am hoping for around 245-250kW - getting close to the V8 but cheaper!!
With the mods that VESV6Evoke is talking about, there is NO way he's
going to achieve those kw figures, but good on him for being so ambitious,
albeit totally unrealistic.

[michaels1v8]

Somehow I dont think he is talking RWKW as has already been said. 240fwkw is pretty possible IMO

[PhantomVE]

Hey all,

Yes - I meant fly wheel - heres the math;

195kW at factory + (approx) another 5 for the Supacats + 7 for the K and N (according to them) and then am aiming for 15-20% boost with the extractors although that is a definite approx as they haven't finished testing yet - that takes it to somewhere between 238 and 248 (flywheel) kW.

Guess I could have got the 8 but a) I had a VZ which got smashed by some crazy chick who must have thought I was actually moving when I was (stopped) waiting with my indicator on to turn right off a main road and proceeded to total my car and therefore leads to b) my insurance were nice enough to write it off and buy me a VE

Also - with fuel prices the way they are its tough - although I saw a GTO 300 (in red) the other day and fell in lust - thats definitely next. Dont need to stuff around with power mods then!!

PS - the extractors for the VE SV6 wont come out for another couple months im told - ill get that Dyno and let you know boys.
:hmmm: :astavista:

[Titanium]

Hey all,

Yes - I meant fly wheel - heres the math;

195kW at factory + (approx) another 5 for the Supacats + 7 for the K and N (according to them) and then am aiming for 15-20% boost with the extractors although that is a definite approx as they haven't finished testing yet - that takes it to somewhere between 238 and 248 (flywheel) kW.

Guess I could have got the 8 but a) I had a VZ which got smashed by some crazy chick who must have thought I was actually moving when I was (stopped) waiting with my indicator on to turn right off a main road and proceeded to total my car and therefore leads to b) my insurance were nice enough to write it off and buy me a VE

Also - with fuel prices the way they are its tough - although I saw a GTO 300 (in red) the other day and fell in lust - thats definitely next. Dont need to stuff around with power mods then!!

PS - the extractors for the VE SV6 wont come out for another couple months im told - ill get that Dyno and let you know boys.
:hmmm: :astavista:

You think going from 195kw to 240 ish is going to use the same amount of fuel?

You develop power by a) using the energy in the fuel more efficiently or b) forcing more fuel / air through your engine.

As others have said, should have got a V8 from the start!

Just my 5c worth.

[Mojo]

I say go for it dude and good luck to ya - get as many kw outta that sucka as you can (fw or rw who cares it's all relative) - good onya for giving it a go.

Keep us updated.

[michaels1v8]

You think going from 195kw to 240 ish is going to use the same amount of fuel?

You develop power by a) using the energy in the fuel more efficiently or b) forcing more fuel / air through your engine.

As others have said, should have got a V8 from the start!

Just my 5c worth.


Actually I think fuel consumption will remain about the same if anything slightly better...

much like with LSXs that when adding an exhaust and CAI it helps the motor flow better and improves fuel economy...

And with the tuning software now available with the alloytec it should refine his AFR and other stuff like that(dunno particulars lol just there is alot to it) which should help him use fuel more efficiently
Fuel consumption will probably increase temporarily though when he test out the new power:jester:

Good luck mate.

[gasguz]

7 kw by using a K&N filter :lmao::lmao::lmao:


Good luck with the build up mate, but as others have said why not just buy a V8 from the outset (if you are after power that is) . It will probably end up costing you more than a V8 would have & in the end you are going to end up with less power than a V8. But I suppose you will be able to play with other 6's though.

Enjoy

[HSVMAN]

7 kw by using a K&N filter :lmao::lmao::lmao:


Good luck with the build up mate, but as others have said why not just buy a V8 from the outset (if you are after power that is) . It will probably end up costing you more than a V8 would have & in the end you are going to end up with less power than a V8. But I suppose you will be able to play with other 6's though.
Enjoy

He has already explained the car was a result of an insurance payout. I dont think laughing is very mature given he is only trying to squeeze more power out of it for as little cost as possible. Lets just see how he goes. I say good on him

[gasguz]

He has already explained the car was a result of an insurance payout. I dont think laughing is very mature given he is only trying to squeeze more power out of it for as little cost as possible. Lets just see how he goes. I say good on him


:lmao::lmao:
I am laughing at the quote of getting 7kw more power by using a K&N filter not at the thread starter so get your facts right before having a go.

I think that statement is hysterical not the rest. So get off your high horse for just a minute :flipoff:. He also could have added more cash to the insurance payout to buy a V8 which is easy enough to do.

I also said goodluck & I hope he achieves all that he wants, but I personally would not bother, as others have said

[SS Enforcer]

I had a VZ sv6 and realised that I wasn't ever going to be able to get too much power out of it. It went quite well stock actually for what it was. The only option for real HP in them is FI I believe. I don't think there is much to be gained from air filter and exhaust, possibly extractors will yield a few more ponies but get it tuned and it should probably punch out 210 - 215 kw at the fly which isn't too shabby btw.

Check here

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=74518&highlight=sv6+tune

cheers

[HSVMAN]

:lmao::lmao:
I am laughing at the quote of getting 7kw more power by using a K&N filter not at the thread starter so get your facts right before having a go.
I think that statement is hysterical not the rest. So get off your high horse for just a minute :flipoff:. He also could have added more cash to the insurance payout to buy a V8 which is easy enough to do.
I also said goodluck & I hope he achieves all that he wants, but I personally would not bother, as others have said

I know exactly what you meant. I said he didnt deserve it because he genuinely believes it himself. No matter which way you look at it laughing is immature. You just proved it further with you last post. Cheers

[gasguz]

No matter which way you look at it laughing is immature.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::r ofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
Mate, whatever is wrong in your life build a bridge & get over it. Maybe if you laughed more you would not be the person you sound like.

I dont understand your logic,"laughing is immature" how did you come by this?? There is nothing wrong with laughing at something that is funny, which the K&N bit was (so was your reply BTW)

To the original V6 owner, good luck in your pursuit in finding more power for your car. You will be able to extract some more ponies just depends on how much you want to spend. Good luck with it all

cheers

[xploit]

You're kidding aren't you, even in flywheel terms. :eek: An auto VE SV6 had a run at what turned into a dyno day at Chev's last Sat and ran mid 120 rwkw from memory. Obviously a manual won't lose as much but expecting 55 to 60 kw from what amounts to exhaust mods on a V6 seems a touch optimistic.

That was me wonky!! and it was 130rwkw with a 195fwkw factory. :p :lol:

I want to make around 200rwkw and ill be happy still trying to find the cheapest way for me to do it, because;

even if i do a charger its still cheaper on insurance than a v8!! lol

Cheers.

Dave


In addition to what has been suggested (extractors, exhaust, tune) I would probably go for a shorter diff to make better use of the good power available in the mid-top of the alloytech rev range.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the tested figures i've seen in a mag for the VE SV6 were 0-100 in 7.4 secs and 400m in around 15.5secs, and having driven one for a good spell they are definitely dozey in the bottom half of the rev range.

The stock diff man or auto is 2.92 - same as the VE (V8) 6 speed auto. A 3.45 as fitted to the VE V8 manual would wake it up some and close up the gear ratios a bit, at the slight expense of shifting gears a bit more frequently and using some more petrol - and also assuming you can get someone to fix the computer software for the new ratio.

But really - just buy a stock V8 and go 0-100 in under 6 secs and 400m in under 14 secs (manual - add a few 10ths for an auto?). Cost what - $5K more new, way less in a year or two? Save the money you would spend on the mods now and invest it in blue chip stocks - that'll pay the difference!


As a owner of one,

they are extremely lazy low-end, they love to rev though - well mine does anyway 6 - 6.5 without batting an eyelid, but they dont start to move untill about 3.5 -4 grand.

The only reason i want to make mine quick, is because there is something that grabs me about pulling up next to a stocker or even mildly worked LSx engined car, and blowing it off from the lights it would make your jaw drop.

Yes, yes yes i know theres arguments back and forwards..

its just a matter of how much money your willing to throw at it :)

dave

[ShanghaiVZ]

210 - 215 kw at the fly which isn't too shabby btw.

Check here

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=74518&highlight=sv6+tune


213kW from a bog stock SV6 :D

[RichieRedHotSS]

Hi,

Ive just bought a new VE SV6 and have put on twin Supacats. Im going to put in a K&N air filter tomorrow and am looking at also putting on extractors. Apparently they aren't out for the VE SV6 yet (still being tested), my question is - what kind of kw increase should I expect (currently at around 200 with the Supacats and apparently the air filter will increase that by another 7kw).

What other mods can be easily and cheaply added to get more grunt?

I just have a question relating to your car and not the actual subject of your thread. Does the "Evoke" part of your user name refer to the colour of your car as I was not aware of SV6's or SS's being availble in this colour. I am in the market for a new VE but am not happy with the colour choices in the SS range, so I am now looking at a Calais in either evoke or red passion. I reckon an SS in either of these colours would look fantastic.

[PhantomVE]

Hi RichieRedHotSS,

Yup - that's the colour. Basically a metallic black. Great colour (well, actually tone) but gets darn dirty real quick. The VE's are really hard to polish too (angular lines all over the place and hard to reach spots).

PS - still awaiting those extractors and thanks to all you supporters out there. We don't all drive V8's gentlemen and i'm trying to juice up the VE without voiding too much warranty and spending too much $$$. OH and with the insurance, the policy stated a new for old replacement (less than 2 yrs old and/or less than 30K/km) - NOT a fiscal pay out. And yes, insurance on a V8 is a lot more, not that it matters.

PPS - The 7kW for the air filter is as advertised by K&N - so take it up with them gasguz.

[Ridin-High]

Give the dude a break. Heaps of people are like buy a v8 from the start, but then people mod those v8's. I could then say if u wanted a fast car why not buy a XR6-Turbo and spend 7k and have it rape a brand new GTS sideways.

SV6 is a nice car, Don't let what anyone here change how u feel about your car.

As for the mods, i sapose just the real basic stuff so you don't full void your warranty. Then bring on a large single turbo and spray it :D WooWOO

[Merlin]

With air filter and full exhaust including extractors you would be lucky to make 10-15kw on a NA 6. So with all those mods 205-210kw at the fly is my guess.

Sorry but no way you are getting 7kw from an air filter.

[dippa]

Nice car, definately mod it up but I'd be sussing out the forced induction route, just need to find out if the cost is reasonable!

Good luck, have fun with it until you get the GTO :)

[wrexed03]

Only way to acheive what you want is forced induction as posted previously.
The alloytech is still too new. You may find some are reluctant to modify internally. You need to weigh up the overall cost of what you are doing or plan to do.
The earlier v6 super6 that holden have used has been proven to produce those figures with bolt ons but the new one is a different story.
Check with FIT they may have something in the pipeline for the Alloytech.
Worth a shot.
Either way good luck with it.
Regards

[PhantomVE]

Ridin-High - cheers mate. I do like the SV6. When I got the VZ (before it was killed by a crazy cow in an 80's Ford Laser) I had planned to work it a bit - then the insurance offered me the brand new VE and I couldn't resist - brand spanker is pretty tempting and I just doubled the re-sale of my original purchase - why not??

As dippa and wrexed03 state, it's hard to work the Alloytechs as there isn't much out yet AND i'd have to pull it to pieces. Quite frankly its only done just over 5K kms and I wanna keep as much warranty as I can. Have juts had word that the headers will be ready first week of July. I'm hoping they will add a bit more growl to the motor - anyone heard the AT engines with headers fitted??

Cheers again for your support.

PS - For a first time V8 driver, what would you recommend (only Holdens though, naturally) around the mid 30 - 40K mark?

[vxl10n]

Im with you mate. My VX 5.7 Exec was written off by some moron would decided not to give way at a set of lights :flipoff:

I now have a VE SV6 that i got with my insurance payout + a loan. I would have loved another v8, but im only 20 and insurance and petrol were killers (apprentice wages suck)

I too have looked at getting some more kilowatts from the SV6. Thinking about a supercharger kit from capa next year...

VE V6 3.6L Intercooled, 4-9psi Kit
Retail Price: $6,595.00
Rated Horsepower of Kit: 265-275kW (300-320kW with Fuel System)

Parts Included:
All parts are included --- Except Exhaust Upgrade
Vortech V-2 Sealed Supercharger
Aluminium Laser Cut Bracket Kit
6 Rib Accessory Drive
Intake & Discharge Pipework
K&N Pod Filter System with Shroud
Front Mount Intercooler

NOTE: CAPA Piggy Back ECU Required $495.00
NOTE: 5-6psi Requires Fuel Pump & FMU $995.00

They also have non-intercooled starting at $4995.


Add a cam to this and it'll be a killer package for a 6 :)

[NickS]

Hi RichieRedHotSS,

Yup - that's the colour. Basically a metallic black. Great colour (well, actually tone) but gets darn dirty real quick. The VE's are really hard to polish too (angular lines all over the place and hard to reach spots).

Evoke isn't black ... it's like metallic gun metal grey ... it's not even close to black.

As far as I know you can't get the SV6, SS or SS-V in Evoke, I'd say you have a black one (whatever black is called) ... do you have any pics ???

[PhantomVE]

vxl10n - sounds like it's going to be a wicked ride when ya done - don't know whether my wife would let me spend that amount on mine unfortunately!! (Gotta keep em happy!) :-) Hope I don't pull up next to you and think im going to take ya - you'll smoke me!!

Nicks - you're a moron. You're ON the internet, use it. Evoke is described as Evoke - smoky metallic charcoal with colored mica highlight, the other colours are Ignition (the orangey one), Sandstorm, Provence, Red Passion, Nickel (which is the metallic/gun metal colour of the range) and Crema - there is no "Black" per say - just Evoke. That is the full range.

Honestly, if you're going to have a go at someone, do your research first. I drive it every day so I think i would know - go work it out for yourself. Geez there are some absolute idiots on this site sometimes.

[brentonsav]

Nicks - you're a moron. You're ON the internet, use it. Evoke is described as Evoke - smoky metallic charcoal with colored mica highlight, the other colours are Ignition (the orangey one), Sandstorm, Provence, Red Passion, Nickel (which is the metallic/gun metal colour of the range) and Crema - there is no "Black" per say - just Evoke. That is the full range.


ouch mate
Australian LS1 and Holden Forums (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=66673)



Honestly, if you're going to have a go at someone, do your research first. I drive it every day so I think i would know - go work it out for yourself. Geez there are some absolute idiots on this site sometimes.

yep, sure is

[WOMBIE]

Just taking a look at the Holden website and the colour "Evoke Matallic" is available but on the base model Omega including wagons.Or are my eyes painted on:confused:

[LargeRice]

Insurance might be more for a V8 but wouldn't the money you will end up spending on mods cover the difference? Then your worries about warranty wouldn't be an issue as you'd have a stock V8 that wouldn't need to be modified :)

Is it possible to sell your car and buy a used VE SS? It might be much easier to do that in the end?

[VZ_V8]

i say do whatever you can to get power out of it. I have a V6 the eotec however since P-Platers in LS powered cars tend to attract alot of attention to themselves. I am slowly doing bits and pieces to mine and i am told that when i get my new high ratio rockers and my PCM sorted out, along with what its got atm it should be able to take the old 5.0L which would be nice.

Its funny how most of you think that the only engine worth doing anything to is an LS, how would you guys like it if in every one of your posts about doing things to your V8's people with like 454's etc just told you your engine is basically useless and it needs to be bigger to warrant doing enything to. Not everyone wants a V8 some people dont mind driving a V6 you know!

FFS the guy is asking what he can do to his V6 he has explained the situation, if all your going to say is get a V8 what is the point in commenting honestly, its a waste of everyone's time who is actually interested in the thread having to go through all the B****hit to get to comments which are actually worth reading.

[Spectrum]

I too am interested in performance enhancement options available for the 6's. Picked up the wife's NZ-only GTR on Wednesday and am already thinking about mods....

[Cat755]

Good HP gains are possible with the alloytec motor. We have a X6 tonner, with the 175kw motor, 4 speed auto, and it was very much under powered when you consider the ute weighs 2 tonne and is AWD. Not to mention the fuel usage at about 14.5lts/100km. The initial dyno showed a loss of just over 50% of engine HP at all 4 wheels. After the following mods we achieved a gain of 43HP at all 4 wheels and assuming that the drive train loss would be similar thats a gain of over 80 FWHP.
Mods done; Custom extractors, HPC coated,
2.5" highflow metallic Cats
2.5" cat back exhaust
K&N filter
2 hole mod to airbox
MAF modified
All mods were done by TBS and a before and after dyno was done. A nice bonus to the increase in power was also a reduction in fuel usage of approximately 2lt/100km. No tuning was possible at the time so it would be interesting to see what a custom tune would do.

[HSVMAN]

Geez there are some absolute idiots on this site sometimes.

You said it bud! Best you go hide now :) You also forgot Phantom Black as in BLACK

[cashie]

Nicks - you're a moron. You're ON the internet, use it. Evoke is described as Evoke - smoky metallic charcoal with colored mica highlight, the other colours are Ignition (the orangey one), Sandstorm, Provence, Red Passion, Nickel (which is the metallic/gun metal colour of the range) and Crema - there is no "Black" per say - just Evoke. That is the full range.
Are you really serious?
For one, Nick drives an Evoke GTS, so I am certain he knows what colour it is.
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/NickS/DSC04507.JPG
This looks more Grey than Black to me!
Lastly, I think you will find Phantom Metallic is Black...
Oh, and Evoke was available earlier in the VE cycle but was replaced by Morpheous Metallic (cadbury colour)
Check out here http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/buildprice?step=2&type=1&modelid=4004

Honestly, if you're going to have a go at someone, do your research first. I drive it every day so I think i would know - go work it out for yourself. Geez there are some absolute idiots on this site sometimes.
You are right about the idiot comment though. :eyes:

[fleety77]

what a thread thanks for the entertainment guys!! That car looks grey imo. As for the sv6 yes very bold claims but good luck and cant wait to see your results mate. at the end of the day you are paying and struggling for in power to get somewhat even close to the 6 litre mate your starting behind with a massive handicap and in a heavy car i think its an uphill battle.......anyone looking for performance prob wouldnt buy a sv6 its more a sporty family type ride, not one with loads off power potential!! unless your gonna spend big dollars!!!!!! AND YES at least its a holden........now go work that baby

[Big_Valven]

buy an aurion trd supercharged

You've gotta be kidding... if you want a Avalon copy in a year or 2... and who in their right mind buys a done-up avalon...

Oh yeah. Go nuts on the Alloytec. Could the people who keep telling them to get a 6l get over it? It was funny the first time but he obviously bought a V6 for a reason, no matter what that reason is he wants to get the best out of what he has so don't go writing him off, or the engine.

[redmike]

I too am interested in performance enhancement options available for the 6's. Picked up the wife's NZ-only GTR on Wednesday and am already thinking about mods....

I have just picked up a new VE SV6 195kw a new challenge moding.I have talked to robin at TP in Auckland and he has just come back from aussie doing some tunning and has tried out new software for the alloytec and will be buying the software in a couple of months.He is a good tuner has done my SV8 and Crewman with great results.he reckons there is alot of tourqe to be had from the alloytec motor.

[Holden Man]

I just read a review on the new direct injection version of the HPV6 used in Caddies ( www.windingroad.com ).

It puts out 300hp (225kw / 366nm) and propels the caddy 0-100 in 5.8secs (caddy weights 1760kg) .

They said it pulls strongly to 200kph ! (maxes out at 250kph)

I hope this engine ends up in the VE soon !!

[HSVMAN]

I have just picked up a new VE SV6 195kw a new challenge moding.I have talked to robin at TP in Auckland and he has just come back from aussie doing some tunning and has tried out new software for the alloytec and will be buying the software in a couple of months.He is a good tuner has done my SV8 and Crewman with great results.he reckons there is alot of tourqe to be had from the alloytec motor.

Robin has a very good reputation. I am involved with a company that is planning on modifying an Alloytec 190. All evidence so far points to an astonishing output if we do things right. It has an extremely strong bottom end which is the weakest part of any V6. I cant wait to bolt a blower on one evn if I'm a V8 lad at heart

[redmike]

Robin has a very good reputation. I am involved with a company that is planning on modifying an Alloytec 190. All evidence so far points to an astonishing output if we do things right. It has an extremely strong bottom end which is the weakest part of any V6. I cant wait to bolt a blower on one evn if I'm a V8 lad at heart

Still love my V8,s as well , the SV6 drives and performs well for a six,keep us posted on modifying of the 190 as the only people doing develpement i know of are all in aussie.But i will visit robin again once he has the software.looking at the exhaust on my car i might remove the squashed piping and change the back mufflers to the ss ones(guys getting new exhaust for his ss might fit them to see what happens)

[HSVMAN]

Still love my V8,s as well , the SV6 drives and performs well for a six,keep us posted on modifying of the 190 as the only people doing develpement i know of are all in aussie.........

Will do. Where did you get your SV6?

[redmike]

Giltraps as i live on the shore.

[HSVMAN]

Giltraps as i live on the shore.

Giltraps are an excellent dealership you wont be dissapointed. They have had the largest growth of any other Holden Dealership in NZ and have a great team, I know a few of them

[redmike]

thanks for that ,do you know anybody doing diff gears as am looking at doing this along with the exhaust before getting a tune not sure if the gears for the ZF diff are available yet.

[HSVMAN]

thanks for that ,do you know anybody doing diff gears as am looking at doing this along with the exhaust before getting a tune not sure if the gears for the ZF diff are available yet.

I'll find out and let you know

[SS Enforcer]

SNIP Nicks - you're a moron. You're ON the internet, use it. Evoke is described as Evoke - smoky metallic charcoal with colored mica highlight, the other colours are Ignition (the orangey one), Sandstorm, Provence, Red Passion, Nickel (which is the metallic/gun metal colour of the range) and Crema - there is no "Black" per say - just Evoke. That is the full range.

Honestly, if you're going to have a go at someone, do your research first. I drive it every day so I think i would know - go work it out for yourself. Geez there are some absolute idiots on this site sometimes.

The Nickel is a Silver colour,Phantom is Black and the Evoke is a smokey Grey colour, you also left out the Impulse as well.

So your forum name should be changed to VESV6Phantom.

Don't you love it ..... been on this forum 5 mins and this guy is an authority I hope he drives better than he thinks. :rofl: or is it wiggle the pinky for this guy.

cheers

[HSVMAN]

thanks for that ,do you know anybody doing diff gears as am looking at doing this along with the exhaust before getting a tune not sure if the gears for the ZF diff are available yet.

You are right no-one is doing them yet. I emailed Robin at TP and he says they were discussing it just last week and may make a housing and gears available in the future

[SS Enforcer]

You are right no-one is doing them yet. I emailed Robin at TP and he says they were discussing it just last week and may make a housing and gears available in the future

Diff gears are available allready just not so easy to get. Give Diff Technics a sponsor on here a ring. There have been a few guys change em allready .

cheers

[HSVMAN]

Diff gears are available allready just not so easy to get. Give Diff Technics a sponsor on here a ring. There have been a few guys change em allready . cheers

Thanks for that, we were talking NZ, cheers

[GAITER]

im in the same boat....i was told by a friend that you can bolt a turbo str8 on to the new sv6 alloytec motors...dont know how true that is though.:flame: