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VTSSG3
11-05-2007, 10:55 PM
i thought i would try our local holden dealer "jaspers" and they had tech 2 so i thought great!

so i dropped the car in and told him i want to change the overspeed to digital kms readout and he said he didnt know how to do it but he would have a go!

so i goes back 1/2 hour later and he says nah cant work out how to do it and he couldnt find the setting

so i ask him is there a police mode setting and he says yes and then i say well that would be it then

he then says that he is not allowed to do that and its a no-no so i never got it done (WTF!)
IS IT ILLEGAL OR WTF??

BLACKWAGON
11-05-2007, 11:03 PM
surely it wouldnt be, i mean they need to make it easier for us to see the speedo seeing the a holes make us stare at them all day nervously incase we roll a few kms over and get stung.

VTSSG3
11-05-2007, 11:10 PM
Yer thats what i thought
i drop the steering column right down in the ss so you cant really see the speedo properly from about 80 to 160

if anything i thought this would aid the driver

im driving to tweed heads shortly(16hrs) and i thought this would only help me

but this guy was quite adement he couldnt put it in police mode

i have had a bit to do with this bloke over the last 10 yrs or so but he's apparently "by the book" with everything and i was spun out myself when he said i cant do that!

LSavvy
11-05-2007, 11:11 PM
I have heard of people paying money and getting it done, some have done it for nothing (while in at service), Did they charge you for them to try and then not do it?, where does it say it is illegal?, if it is illegal, why are the coppers using them and standard option on VZ's!!
Sounds like you have to try another, more customer friendly Holden dealer, Yeah i know its hard, but i have heard some good reports for some service dept's, though i personally don't know any.

Just noticed you have a VT, I was thinking VY, you can get your own digital readout by pressing and holding the Mode and Arrow up( i think those two) and turning the Ign on while pressing and then pressing the arrows for different info.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong, I haven't played with a VT in a while but from memory this was the sequence.

Mungrel
11-05-2007, 11:11 PM
i wouldn't have thought it was illegal..
IMO if it was illegal the feature wouldn't be put into the general publics cars.
It'd be an "add-on" that would be removed once the cars are auctioned off.

BLACKWAGON
11-05-2007, 11:15 PM
ye a few people are a little too serious with by the book things. In fairness to him tho if he done it and for whatever something happened he would probably be in big shit and so would their workshop.
I think there is a way to turn it on when u get into the car, something about holding down the 2 arrows where the mode button is.
It was on a thread a while back.

VTSSG3
11-05-2007, 11:16 PM
thx guys for the replys

he didnt charge me at all for trying to do it and i wouldnt have paid him for doing nothing

the only reason i can think they might not be able to do it is they might want the overspeed there for driving and safety reasons

also guys it does work by holding mode and up arrow but of course when you turn the key of it reverts back to standard

i want it there all the time!!

cheers

Blonk1
11-05-2007, 11:42 PM
I am guessing that there is a licenece on the police mode software and every upload needs a licence number....

Therefore an upload without the serial would be useless, an upload with the serial would be against copyright laws...

Illegal... Simple.......

VTSSG3
11-05-2007, 11:53 PM
man i think your looking a bit deep into it

Bomi
11-05-2007, 11:56 PM
I am guessing that there is a licenece on the police mode software and every upload needs a licence number....

Therefore an upload without the serial would be useless, an upload with the serial would be against copyright laws...

Illegal... Simple.......

Nope, not at all mate.

Id say the mech just couldnt be stuffed doing it in the end.

Try another Holden dealer.

Troy :)

Blonk1
12-05-2007, 12:00 AM
Called intellectual property I think......

Try and buy a 5.8 megahertz wifi with military software.... Forget it..

You can walk into a shop and buy 5.8 gig wifi for $1000 dollars without the software.. Performs about 5% of the military stuff........

Dont kid yourself... Holden make money from producing speciality cars then licencinmg the software.. Crazy if they didnt............

TUFFIE
12-05-2007, 12:00 AM
Nope, not at all mate.

Id say the mech just couldnt be stuffed doing it in the end.

Try another Holden dealer.

Troy :)

Yup agree try another dealer, had it done on mine, no problem.. more acurate than the normal speedo.. have had it checked.

jerrel
12-05-2007, 12:43 AM
LOL...some dealers are a joke.

i went to ferntree gully holden. asked them to enable police mode. 2 mins later it was on, no charge.

good luck getting it done. i love it.

i also asked them to knock a hundred thousand km off my odo, but they said no, fair enough. ;)

Y2kGoofball
12-05-2007, 02:01 AM
nah its all legal, Ive been told this by a dealer too "unless its a police car we cannot program it"

They can, just depends on whether they know how too or if they want too

XLR8 V8
12-05-2007, 04:33 AM
It is simply enabling a digital version of the speedometer .... a function that is already built into the dash and can be accessed and used via Mode-Up when turning on the ignition. All you're asking them is to enable it permanently.
Referring to it as "Police Mode" is what's getting the dealers back up as they then act like is something special that only the Police should have.
Just refer to it as "permanently enable the digital speedo display"

planetdavo
12-05-2007, 07:41 AM
This question has popped up before, and the answer is still the same.
Many dealers will do it, usually for a fee, but some wont.
The reason for this is because it is against the franchisee's contract with the manufacturer (Holden) to modify a car from how it was built. That is technically EVERY dealer.
Without wanting to start a sh!tfight, it's not really that different to some dealers turning a blind eye to edits, exhausts etc when something goes wrong with the car, whereas others will knock it back because of those...

VTSSG3
12-05-2007, 10:48 AM
Yep now that makes more sense to me iam going to have to find another dealer .... any suggestions of any between Albury @ Melbs..

El Narros
12-05-2007, 10:51 AM
I have used police mode on my 03 monaro, can the read out be made bigger?
I find the numbers are too small to be of any use to me.

VTSSG3
12-05-2007, 10:55 AM
also i did ask for "permanatly enable digital speedo" but he couldnt find the option

so as i said i asked if there was "police mode" and he said yes so i could only assume that in tech 2 it is known as option "police mode" and not "permently enable digital speedo" cheers

gasguz
12-05-2007, 11:01 AM
It is simply enabling a digital version of the speedometer .... a function that is already built into the dash and can be accessed and used via Mode-Up when turning on the ignition. All you're asking them is to enable it permanently.


Correcteye, using the mode-up button while starting is now normal procedure for me. I have been doing it for years now. Cant see the need to get it done permanently since it has become 2nd nature now.

The wifes VZ is another story, played with the settings of the car & it is there all the time now

Cheers

planetdavo
12-05-2007, 01:23 PM
I have used police mode on my 03 monaro, can the read out be made bigger?
I find the numbers are too small to be of any use to me.
Yours should be a VY type version. If so, police mode speedo numbers are about 20mm in height, so pretty big. You can't get bigger than that, nor would you really need them to be.

BLACKWAGON
12-05-2007, 01:25 PM
what were the buttons u pres on startup for cop mode in the vys?

El Narros
12-05-2007, 01:44 PM
Yours should be a VY type version. If so, police mode speedo numbers are about 20mm in height, so pretty big. You can't get bigger than that, nor would you really need them to be.

nah, more like 8mm.
btw im still thinkn bout that wheel

dysfctn
12-05-2007, 01:59 PM
I had it enabled as soon as I bought the car. Dealer did it for free - just remember to set your overspeed at the speed you want it before you get it done, otherwise it still chimes when you go over (and you can't change it without Tech2)

I set my overspeed for 200km/h so if it ever goes off then I'd say that my car's been stolen cos I'll never be driving it at that speed. ;)

Dickie Knee
12-05-2007, 02:03 PM
Police mode " ILLEGAL " :lmao: . With the amount of cars I have enabled it on over the years, I'll be locked up for a very long time.

Next thing they will be telling you is that they can't do it 'couse it will give you 20 RWKW extra

vxleather
12-05-2007, 02:15 PM
okay vxSS ser II can it be done on start up and how or is there a thread on how to some where????

Any help would be great


Shane

planetdavo
12-05-2007, 03:04 PM
nah, more like 8mm.
btw im still thinkn bout that wheel
Maybe there is a small and a large digit setting when in Tech2 that someone can answer? Mine are 20mm height on a Series 2.

michaels1v8
12-05-2007, 03:11 PM
okay vxSS ser II can it be done on start up and how or is there a thread on how to some where????

Any help would be great


Shane

Tons of threads around on it. Trust me haha

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=36907&highlight=diagnostic+mode

Basically before you turn the key on just hold the mode and the up arrow.

The above link has what each display means in the VX single window dash.

saaz
12-05-2007, 10:10 PM
Perhaps just mention that it is a standard feature in Statesman/Caprice, at least from the WL. In my WL it is just a matter of selecting digital speedo display. No mention of it being illegal!!! Perhaps just say you want the same as the luxury models? May give a different impression.

BTW, I rarely use digital speedo anyway as the analogue speedo is spot on in agreement with the digital speedo. Ironic as those without really want it!!

Gen 3
12-05-2007, 10:43 PM
I've got a VXII, mine was on " police mode " when i got it being a exchaiser. Not realising it was in "police mode " I said to Heart Land that my speado was reading different to my digital display. They said thats the reason why they don't have it as a standard feature & that there would be to many complaints about the differance. So i'm sure its not illegal.

Tyre biter
12-05-2007, 11:53 PM
'Police Mode' said to be illegal - now that is funny.

See, you sort of need a law to make it so. You know, a section within an Act or Regulation or somesuch that says it is an offence, and then to make it enforcable, a penalty provision.

I can just see it now, the Vehicle Speedometer Act of 1992, specifically section 102 Police Mode: It is an offence drive a vehicle displaying a speedometer function issued for Police work when the driver is not a Constable of Police, or the vehicle is not being used for the purpose of Police work...

I am sorry guys, it's just that its late, I'm tired and this thread just seems so very funny to me :)

Cheers

gasguz
13-05-2007, 01:08 AM
Maybe there is a small and a large digit setting when in Tech2 that someone can answer? Mine are 20mm height on a Series 2.

They are the same in the wifes VZ (which is pretty much the same dash layout) nice & big. I only turned this on by going into the menu of the trip computer though so maybe there is another setting, but I have not seen any smaller speedo readout numbers.

cheers

planetdavo
13-05-2007, 09:05 AM
BTW, I rarely use digital speedo anyway as the analogue speedo is spot on in agreement with the digital speedo. Ironic as those without really want it!!
I'm quite the opposite. I've had it for over two years now, and it's so much quicker to "glimpse" the number, rather than having to actually "read" the position of the speedo needle. You can tell when you have gone just 1 km/h too fast, something very useful in todays camera flooded roads...


'Police Mode' said to be illegal - now that is funny.


The laughing at the "illegal" comment has probably gone on long enough.
As I said earlier, it is against a dealers franchisee agreemant with Holden to modify a car. Many will, but some wont.
So they said it's "illegal", but should have said "it's against our franchisee agreement".
Does it really matter, other than to wannabe lawyers debating points of law?

saaz
13-05-2007, 09:51 AM
Perhaps it is just that I have to read an analogue speedo on the bike all the time (it has additional 2kph increments as it is police spec) that I also stick with that in the car. I do tend to check the digital speedo when I go down to Victoria when setting the cruise, as far less leeway than in NSW and ACT.

Tyre biter
14-05-2007, 10:03 AM
The laughing at the "illegal" comment has probably gone on long enough. As I said earlier, it is against a dealers franchisee agreemant with Holden to modify a car. Many will, but some wont.
So they said it's "illegal", but should have said "it's against our franchisee agreement". Does it really matter, other than to wannabe lawyers debating points of law?

C'mon, dry your eyes now (joking), not having fun at you, rather with you so please don't take it that way, and hey, I take exception to your comment about "wannabe lawyers"...well the lawyer part anyway (again, this is a joke).

I am sure you can get a dealer to do this for you if you ask around. Just be aware though, that when changing to the Police function, you may well 'loose' a number of the standard functions that you can scroll too. Due to the sands of time, I can't recall which ones you do loose, but I do recall there is some loss - FYI.

Cheers

LS1HVN
10-04-2008, 09:58 PM
Can anybody post up here, or PM me directions on how to unlock this feature so i can take it in and get this done?

Thanks in advance

VESSV316
10-04-2008, 11:00 PM
Police Mode is easily activated by Tech 2 takes about 2 mins, and is a true indicator of speed cause it runs off your wheel speed sensors. The dash runs off the gearbox. I had a 2 or 3km/h difference between the dash and the digital readout, the digital being the lower number

German Statesman
11-04-2008, 09:00 PM
Police mode " ILLEGAL " :lmao: . With the amount of cars I have enabled it on over the years, I'll be locked up for a very long time.

Next thing they will be telling you is that they can't do it 'couse it will give you 20 RWKW extra

My thoughts exactly - we used to get owners coming in with VS Commodore ex-police cars from auctions all the time and customers would want the speedo readout in the overspeed indicator turned off...if it took more that 5 mins to do, we would charge for it because it was changing a setting on the car the first owner ordered from the factory.

The number of people that arced up thinking it was warranty :jester::rofl:

Tron2004
13-04-2008, 05:41 PM
I just use my TomTom.
Digital speed readout along with speed limits.
And VERY accurate at that!!

BTW... just went and tried the Mode + Up Arrow thingy and ziltch!! Nothing happens.

DR-vyss-108
13-04-2008, 09:11 PM
can u get the digital readout on vyII ss??

VESSV316
13-04-2008, 09:15 PM
can u get the digital readout on vyII ss??

Yes you can

DR-vyss-108
13-04-2008, 09:19 PM
with out goin to a dealer?

DaveHAT
13-04-2008, 09:24 PM
with out goin to a dealer?

Essentially no.

Chipmaster used to do it for customers but I believe no longer do.

Approx. $66 to get it done at a dealer or "mates rates" if you know someone. ;)

DR-vyss-108
13-04-2008, 09:32 PM
can u use efilive?

Mozz
13-04-2008, 09:49 PM
I know this thread has been kicking around for quite a while now but could the initial reference be because enabling the digital speedo cancels out the overspeed chime?

VESSV316
13-04-2008, 09:52 PM
I know this thread has been kicking around for quite a while now but could the initial reference be because enabling the digital speedo cancels out the overspeed chime?

Overspeed chimer still works, even if u put digital speedo on. Very annoying cause it is set at 115km/h and cant be changed


Essentially no.

Approx. $66 to get it done at a dealer or "mates rates" if you know someone. ;)

LOL I use the TECH 2 i have at work lol :smilesandbanana:

DaveHAT
14-04-2008, 10:51 AM
I know this thread has been kicking around for quite a while now but could the initial reference be because enabling the digital speedo cancels out the overspeed chime?

Nope ... overspeed chime will still work which is why you need to MAX OUT the overspeed chime prior to activating the digital speedo.


can u use efilive?

Nope.


Overspeed chimer still works, even if u put digital speedo on. Very annoying cause it is set at 115km/h and cant be changed

LOL I use the TECH 2 i have at work lol :smilesandbanana:

If you have access to Tech2 why dont you just de-activate the digital speedo ... MAX out the overspeed alarm then re-activate the digital speedo? :confused: Annoying problem gone?? :yup:

VESSV316
14-04-2008, 04:00 PM
Nope ... overspeed chime will still work which is why you need to MAX OUT the overspeed chime prior to activating the digital speedo.



Nope.



If you have access to Tech2 why dont you just de-activate the digital speedo ... MAX out the overspeed alarm then re-activate the digital speedo? :confused: Annoying problem gone?? :yup:

tryed that numerous times keeps defaulting to 115km/h

Brandonsdad
14-04-2008, 04:01 PM
Had a VT ex cop car and it had it already.
I presumed that only cop cars had this feature in their cars and with it being an exec, it wouldnt normally have it. Maybe the Berlinas and Calais' had them as standard though. Would have thought SS as well.
Might have been extra wiring from factory needed. Wheres that PLANEDAVO when you need him.


I know this thread has been kicking around for quite a while now but could the initial reference be because enabling the digital speedo cancels out the overspeed chime?

I think I recall something like this. It can only accomodate either 4 or 5 options on the menu.

unmassked
15-05-2008, 08:49 PM
I have heard of people paying money and getting it done, some have done it for nothing (while in at service), Did they charge you for them to try and then not do it?, where does it say it is illegal?, if it is illegal, why are the coppers using them and standard option on VZ's!!
Sounds like you have to try another, more customer friendly Holden dealer, Yeah i know its hard, but i have heard some good reports for some service dept's, though i personally don't know any.

Just noticed you have a VT, I was thinking VY, you can get your own digital readout by pressing and holding the Mode and Arrow up( i think those two) and turning the Ign on while pressing and then pressing the arrows for different info.

Someone correct me if i'm wrong, I haven't played with a VT in a while but from memory this was the sequence.Yeah that is correct & it is called police mode you can also have a digital tacho,engine temp & a host of other things.

LS1-5.7
16-05-2008, 06:34 PM
It is all perfectly legal and the dealer has backed out because A) he didn't know how to do it or B) He couldn't be f****D basically. Sad that he did not realise he could do it competently, legally and make a few bucks out of it as well ! I would definately ring around till you find a dealer willing to help you as they are supposed to provide a "service" aren't they ??? Maybe volunteer that you are willing to pay so they can then do it with the dual purpose of satisfying your request AND make a buck out of it. Good luck

MJR-57T
02-07-2008, 11:27 AM
i went down to holden a few weeks ago and got the illigal thing.

Saw my highway patrol mates personal VY SV6 with digital dash this morning
He said as far as he knew, it came standard with the SV6 and its not illigal for somone off the street to have it.
Its just an option pulled up for the general duties guys.

So i just got back from holden 1/2 hour ago, different guy said yea it can be done for $99.
told him to go shove it up your ass and walked out.:flipoff:
I had it done for free on my VT while they reset an airbag light.

Fiver
07-02-2009, 12:32 AM
Bit of thread grave digging here, but I had Avis hirecars with the digi speedo enabled a few years back... Unlikely illegal if they are doing it...

Perhaps it was done from the factory for the police cars, and they had a bunch of police fleet cars that didn't end up being delivered to the cops? Can't see Avis requesting it...

smokey777
07-02-2009, 03:50 AM
with tech2 on VYSS can ya make it so traction control is OFF as default? instead of hitting it each time?

darb
07-02-2009, 04:17 AM
what on earth is "police mode" can someone tell me?

All VE's and even VX have a digital speedo as standard, why on earth would it be an illegal feature?

I dont get it ..

Is there secretly a disabled supercharger attached that Im not aware of and police mode would activate it? SWEEET!!

XLR8 V8
07-02-2009, 05:42 AM
what on earth is "police mode" can someone tell me?

All VE's and even VX have a digital speedo as standard, why on earth would it be an illegal feature?

I dont get it ..

Is there secretly a disabled supercharger attached that Im not aware of and police mode would activate it? SWEEET!!


Non-police VX's didn't have a standard digital speedo - it only came in with the updated VY/Z dash. You could open it on the VT/X only by using the Mode-Up dash functions when starting the car, but it would only work until you stopped the car - then you'd have to manually go into the feature again. Having "Police mode" enabled added it as a permanent dash feature but would disable the speed alert

jerrel
07-02-2009, 11:45 AM
with tech2 on VYSS can ya make it so traction control is OFF as default? instead of hitting it each time?

yes, or just unplug the switch

WOMBIE
07-02-2009, 04:20 PM
I had police mode enabled today.......pretty cool imo :)

iloveholden
07-02-2009, 04:43 PM
Thanks guys....i didnt know what the police mode was either! :)

cashie
07-02-2009, 06:39 PM
Thing I don't like about the digital speedo in the VY police mode is that when it is displayed you lose your two side displays and your radio display etc...

Fiver
07-02-2009, 06:50 PM
I don't really see the advantage of it anyhow?

smokey777
07-02-2009, 07:50 PM
I don't really see the advantage of it anyhow?

well it doesnt really but its called "police mode" so it must be cool

Fiver
07-02-2009, 08:12 PM
well it doesnt really but its called "police mode" so it must be cool

Awesome - Anyone know where I can get some "chaser" wheels :P

smokey777
07-02-2009, 08:41 PM
i want the police chip :-D

caaf
08-02-2009, 12:09 PM
Just keep in mind (as I have stated in other threads) For single window displays that have the digital speedo enabled (police mode) you will loose all interaction with your radio. OD chime. Ie.. Animated (if any) display when selecting different modes, radio, cd ect and fixed displays like cd/track number and radio frequency.

Mozz
08-02-2009, 12:14 PM
Just keep in mind (as I have stated in other threads) For single window displays that have the digital speedo enabled (police mode) you will loose all interaction with your radio. OD chime. Ie.. Animated (if any) display when selecting different modes, radio, cd ect and fixed displays like cd/track number and radio frequency.

A reason to replace the single window display with a much sexier three window

JLR
08-02-2009, 03:43 PM
I seriously dont remember this happening to my VX when i had police mode turned on? But i could be mistaken??


Just keep in mind (as I have stated in other threads) For single window displays that have the digital speedo enabled (police mode) you will loose all interaction with your radio. OD chime. Ie.. Animated (if any) display when selecting different modes, radio, cd ect and fixed displays like cd/track number and radio frequency.

XLR8 V8
08-02-2009, 03:53 PM
I seriously dont remember this happening to my VX when i had police mode turned on? But i could be mistaken??


The reference to animated displays, radio and CD track information etc in the dash display indcates he's referring to the VY onwards dash

The_Plague
08-02-2009, 08:59 PM
'Police Mode' said to be illegal - now that is funny.

See, you sort of need a law to make it so. You know, a section within an Act or Regulation

A section in the Act will do it, regulations are just based off acts, acts have sections, regulations have clauses.

As for what Act it would need to be in, ****ed if I know, any lawyers in the house or motoring legal specialists / budding specialists.

JET-33
19-01-2010, 05:59 PM
i also asked them to knock a hundred thousand km off my odo, but they said no, fair enough. ;)

:lmao: thats gold

Walked_on
19-01-2010, 06:11 PM
digital speedo, nice

JET-33
20-01-2010, 07:13 AM
did it for a once off this morning. it was OK but not as good as the VZ display with it larger and in the middle.

Question: the display screen in "police" mode that shows temp....is that engine coolant temp just like the one in the standard "needle" display or is it something different?

Nidz
20-01-2010, 07:23 AM
did it for a once off this morning. it was OK but not as good as the VZ display with it larger and in the middle.

Question: the display screen in "police" mode that shows temp....is that engine coolant temp just like the one in the standard "needle" display or is it something different?

That would be the readout from the temp sensor..

Anyone know anywhere in Melb that can do it that's not a dealer? I wouldn't mind getting the digital speedo enabled on my VX

JET-33
20-01-2010, 07:26 AM
That would be the readout from the temp sensor..

:)

but is it the same temp sensor as the needle display ie engine coolant? or is it another readout like oil temp?

macca_779
20-01-2010, 07:33 AM
:)

but is it the same temp sensor as the needle display ie engine coolant? or is it another readout like oil temp?

Same ECT Sensor.

cashie
20-01-2010, 08:00 AM
did it for a once off this morning. it was OK but not as good as the VZ display with it larger and in the middle.

Question: the display screen in "police" mode that shows temp....is that engine coolant temp just like the one in the standard "needle" display or is it something different?

That's not "police" mode, it's "diagnostic" mode.
Police mode does give you a larger, centred speed readout.

The temp readout is directly from the OBD data.

JET-33
20-01-2010, 10:20 AM
That's not "police" mode, it's "diagnostic" mode.
Police mode does give you a larger, centred speed readout.

The temp readout is directly from the OBD data.

that makes more sense! :) cos i thought most of the other features were rubbish...especially the one that made the dash $h1t itself and go off like nye fireworks :lmao:

JET-33
20-01-2010, 12:54 PM
tryed that numerous times keeps defaulting to 115km/h

Maybe "police" mode has 115 pre programmed in for police reasons...

JET-33
20-01-2010, 01:41 PM
That's not "police" mode, it's "diagnostic" mode.
Police mode does give you a larger, centred speed readout.

The temp readout is directly from the OBD data.


ive tried "mode+up" before turning the ignition on and before starting the car and it always goes into "diagnostic" mode. is there a way to go into "police" mode manually as a one off or does it have to be done by tech2 (on a vx monaro)

JET-33
20-01-2010, 04:48 PM
also, might be a stupid question but going into "diagnostic" mode on the dash cant mess up mafless tunes can it?

caaf
20-01-2010, 06:52 PM
As I'm sure it states over and over all over this forum . . Police mode has to be set via tech2.. before you get it done set the Over speed to 200klm as you loose the ability to change that and miss a few other things after the change.

No it doesn't affect a mafless tune as you can't mod anything simply view ;)

JET-33
20-01-2010, 08:31 PM
anyone got any pics of "police" mode digital speedo in a vx dash?

JET-33
21-01-2010, 07:09 AM
Police Mode is easily activated by Tech 2 takes about 2 mins, and is a true indicator of speed cause it runs off your wheel speed sensors. The dash runs off the gearbox. I had a 2 or 3km/h difference between the dash and the digital readout, the digital being the lower number

i noticed this as well. mind you i was only in diagnostic mode :( but it still had 2-3kmh diff between the 2 readouts and that was only at 60kmh

JET-33
21-01-2010, 07:11 AM
Correcteye, using the mode-up button while starting is now normal procedure for me. I have been doing it for years now. Cant see the need to get it done permanently since it has become 2nd nature now.


hey mate, you do this daily in a vx? when i do mode-up in my vx monaro it only goes into diagnostic mode. is there a trick to it?

JLR
21-01-2010, 11:28 AM
hey mate, you do this daily in a vx? when i do mode-up in my vx monaro it only goes into diagnostic mode. is there a trick to it?

I just dropped in to FTG Holden when i wanted mine done, and they did it one the spot. Just do it. It's not going to hurt anything (except speed alert).

I love it. I find it hard to drive a car without a digital speedo now. Im so used to looking down at the digital readout. Sort of like when i read clocks. It always takes me a little bit longer to figure out where the arms are pointing on the clock, rather than read a digital one. (im quite simple like that)

JET-33
21-01-2010, 11:41 AM
I just dropped in to FTG Holden when i wanted mine done, and they did it one the spot. Just do it. It's not going to hurt anything (except speed alert).

I love it. I find it hard to drive a car without a digital speedo now. Im so used to looking down at the digital readout. Sort of like when i read clocks. It always takes me a little bit longer to figure out where the arms are pointing on the clock, rather than read a digital one. (im quite simple like that)

yeh i think everyone would find it easier to read digital. i was used to it from when i had a vz calais so its weird to not have it now

i thought you said you did the manual way everyday....ah well. off to holden i go :)

cheers

FAVSSS
21-01-2010, 12:26 PM
Got my VY done yesterday by Heartland while it was in for service.No charge

JET-33
27-01-2010, 11:32 AM
i just got told by holden that "police" mode for the digital speedo is for vy only.

can someone please confirm that this can be done in a vx style dash?

VXSS346
27-01-2010, 12:29 PM
i just got told by holden that "police" mode for the digital speedo is for vy only.

can someone please confirm that this can be done in a vx style dash?

Yes it can be done, mine has had it since I bought it new. (police pack)

DaveHAT
27-01-2010, 12:52 PM
i just got told by holden that "police" mode for the digital speedo is for vy only.

can someone please confirm that this can be done in a vx style dash?

Techline for dash programming INCL POLICE MODE, direct from Holden ... suit VT Commodore, therefore VX.

TAKE NOTE OF FIGURE 12C-56.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/tigerss/instrument_program.pdf

JET-33
27-01-2010, 01:04 PM
Techline for dash programming INCL POLICE MODE, direct from Holden ... suit VT Commodore, therefore VX.

TAKE NOTE OF FIGURE 12C-56.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/tigerss/instrument_program.pdf

nice. thanks for that

are there any other options that would be off that can be turned on or do they mess other stuff up if you do that?

SSDVL!
27-01-2010, 03:30 PM
I don't think there is other options on there that haven't been included. My mate is a night surpervisor at holden and he enabled "police mode" when he was checkimg the diagnostics with his computer, just a matter of clicking yes on his hand held.

I dont understand why they just didn't leave it in as a standard feature.

JET-33
27-01-2010, 04:22 PM
I dont understand why they just didn't leave it in as a standard feature.

one thing i noticed when running diagnotic mode is that the needle and digital display were about 3km out (and that was only at about 60kmh). i think they had to turn it off to avoid tens of thousands of returns to the workshop.

i think i read that the 2 readings are taken from different sensors also meaning one is more accurate that the other

Xenon
27-01-2010, 05:55 PM
I find that the analog readout vs digital readout vs gps readout vary quite a bit. I usually take the GPS readout as the correct one when travelling at speed though.

JET-33
27-01-2010, 06:05 PM
I find that the analog readout vs digital readout vs gps readout vary quite a bit. I usually take the GPS readout as the correct one when travelling at speed though.

yeh i agree. gps seems to be the most accurate one. i even tried one off the iphone (app) and it was as accurate as the tomtom gps

DaveHAT
27-01-2010, 08:39 PM
one thing i noticed when running diagnotic mode is that the needle and digital display were about 3km out (and that was only at about 60kmh). i think they had to turn it off to avoid tens of thousands of returns to the workshop.

i think i read that the 2 readings are taken from different sensors also meaning one is more accurate that the other

Speedo and tacho needles are dampened so that they give a "smooth" reading.

Presumably done to avoid a million Holden Commodore owners whinging to the dealers about "boiuncy" instrument cluster needles.

JET-33
27-01-2010, 11:26 PM
Police Mode is easily activated by Tech 2 takes about 2 mins, and is a true indicator of speed cause it runs off your wheel speed sensors. The dash runs off the gearbox. I had a 2 or 3km/h difference between the dash and the digital readout, the digital being the lower number

this is the other reason...