Dyno Results from Dyno day @ Hallam

[BLKVYSS]

Hey Guys.. Quite Happy. Just got back from the dyno day in hallam..

Very happy with what I got..

237.6 rwkw @ 7556 rpm..

Car is a 2004 VYII SS 5.7 M6 -

Mods :

Modified Air Box

Thats It.. No exhaust, no tune, not even a K&N filter.. nothing at all

First time i've had it on the dyno since I bought it and the only mod I've made so far is to the air box.. still has the standard filter element.. Still doing my research before anymore mods.. but this is a good starting point for me.. now to reach the skys :)

Bragging rights as far as I'm concerned.. Surprised a few people on the day.. even my self! :yahoo:

[keen]

7556 rpm that doesnt seem right?

[whitels1ss]

Well done buddy, I bet you are happy too. Top result! ( I think you may have typo'd the RPM though, more likely to be 5750, not 7556 as you said.)
Perhaps the previous owner has had it edited?

[BLKVYSS]

7556 rpm that doesnt seem right?

Well.. There were a few LS1's doing the same rpm.. I thought it was a bit high..

there was an LS1 previously sitting at 10,000 rpm.. they had it set to 6 cyl..

But they put it on 8 for my run..

Dunno.. I'm just happy with the power :)


Well done buddy, I bet you are happy too. Top result!
Perhaps the previous owner has had it edited?

Quite Possibly.. *fingers crossed*

[HSVJPL]

Glad your happy with the result.

Don't pay too much attention to the number though, it should only be used as a benchmark to assess the increases from any changes i.e (exhaust, edit, cam, etc)

For example my Clubby makes 235rwkw on G&D's dyno with bolt on's but has run 12.8 @109mph.

[macca_779]

Hey Guys.. Quite Happy. Just got back from the dyno day in hallam..

Very happy with what I got..

237.6 rwkw @ 7556 rpm..

Car is a 2004 VYII SS 5.7 M6 -

Mods :

Modified Air Box

Thats It.. No exhaust, no tune, not even a K&N filter.. nothing at all

First time i've had it on the dyno since I bought it and the only mod I've made so far is to the air box.. still has the standard filter element.. Still doing my research before anymore mods.. but this is a good starting point for me.. now to reach the skys :)

Bragging rights as far as I'm concerned.. Surprised a few people on the day.. even my self! :yahoo:

Not to burst your bubble, but that power is incredibly out of character for any stock LS1. The RPM is not possible either as if your tune is stock it will be limited to 6200rpm. This dyno is obviously not very accurate at all

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[MNR-0]

Bodgy RPM that. Now way a stocker will rev that high. Untuned limited to 6200RPM. Dyno was not calibrated.

[brentonsav]

Not to burst your bubble, but that power is incredibly out of character for any stock LS1. The RPM is not possible either as if your tune is stock it will be limited to 6200rpm. This dyno is obviously not very accurate at all

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it would seem that way... happy dyno by the sounds of it. interesting to see what 1/4mile this car could run. thats the real test

[hogs]

Evening,

Can I have a run on that Dyno PLEEEEEESE!

Cheers,

Hogs,:)

[JezzaB]

Not to burst your bubble, but that power is incredibly out of character for any stock LS1. The RPM is not possible either as if your tune is stock it will be limited to 6200rpm. This dyno is obviously not very accurate at all

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Yup, they were calculated figures on the dyno. Saw some crazy dynosheets for rpm. DTS Dyno. They didnt have the AFR meter hooked up most of the time and never asked diff gears or anything....

Jez

[BLACKWAGON]

mmmmmmmmm
I got 235.4 with full zorst, tb bypass, modded maf and tune.
My car wouldnt rev to 7 now with cam....and I wouldnt do it anyway coz once it got to 5600-5700 that was max power(without cam) and max power with cam was 6200-6300.
Doesnt sound like a really reliable thing from what Ive read here.

[HSVJPL]

Yup, they were calculated figures on the dyno. Saw some crazy dynosheets for rpm. DTS Dyno. They didnt have the AFR meter hooked up most of the time and never asked diff gears or anything....

Jez


Sounds like an enjoyable waste of time, hope nobody laid any money down for the exercise!!!!

[BlueSS]

Yup, they were calculated figures on the dyno. Saw some crazy dynosheets for rpm. DTS Dyno. They didnt have the AFR meter hooked up most of the time and never asked diff gears or anything....

Jez

DTS... says it all doesn't it... i've seen some weird shit happen on those dyno's..

[markone2]

.. Quite Happy. :


:yup: ...........got that bit correct :)

[Padina]

Cant say I've heard anything about the DTS Dynos, but I surelly wouldnt wanna have my engine running anything close to 7000 rpm! Must be more to this story.

Cheers.. Vlad. :D

[JezzaB]

Sounds like an enjoyable waste of time, hope nobody laid any money down for the exercise!!!!

Exactly, I have done a hell of a lot of dyno runs and days and to not check cars afr's before full wot runs is unacceptable, unless you like someone to go BANG on your dyno. What youll go "Well thats your fault buddy!"?? Little things happen like too much oil on the maf from the k&n etc, these things need to be checked, its a quick test load up, check the afr when PE kicks in and if you see some high afrs ask the customer if they wanna proceed, dont wait till you hear it pinging audibly.

Jez


Cant say I've heard anything about the DTS Dynos, but I surelly wouldnt wanna have my engine running anything close to 7000 rpm! Must be more to this story.

Cheers.. Vlad. :D

Its not a real figure mate, just the dyno calculation like the dyno printout we get from DD and Mainline Dynos but they dont put any diff info in etc..... Ive run runs after putting 3.9's in and they have gone "AHHH you have diff gears in, what are they" after runs and they have corrected the rpms...

Jez

[ratter]

Getting RPM based on roller speed is not accurate as it would need to be reset every time a car went on the rollers to allow for gearing and tyre sizes and is not 100% accurate as it does not take into account convertor slip and tyre slip.
Better dynos normally use a pickup on either ignition coil primary or secondary circuits, injectors or even the OBD2 port to get an accurate reading

[JezzaB]

Getting RPM based on roller speed is not accurate as it would need to be reset every time a car went on the rollers to allow for gearing and tyre sizes and is not 100% accurate as it does not take into account convertor slip and tyre slip.
Better dynos normally use a pickup on either ignition coil primary or secondary circuits, injectors or even the OBD2 port to get an accurate reading

Thanks Button

[ActionDan]

Wow... I was 'hoping' to get 220-230rwkw's with a full exhaust, MCAI and custom tune but I've had a few cans tonight =D

In all seriousness though, and before my typing skills leave me for the evening, I'd take those results with a grain of salt (odd expression isn't it..).

From what I've read on these forums and seen on the dyno - there's rarely an exception to the rule when it comes to what any given engine with a certain set of mods will put out when compared to other cars, give or take 5% at the most.

I'd assume you'd get closer to say 180-190kw's on a dyno dynamics in shootout mode, which appears to be one of the industry standards when it comes to having a comparable dyno sheet. If you're actually interested in usable figures I'd suggest you get a run somewhere else.

Ohh and from what little I know about my LS1 (only had it 4 weeks maybe? sold my GTR for it!) it is rev limited to about 6200-6300rpm or so as I accidentally found out the other day learning how to use the brake when doing a... err nevermind

The above represents the ramblings of a somewhat intoxicated individual and is only close to correct grammar and spelling thanks to Firefox built in checker =D

:jester:

[FANG IT 350]

Hey Guys.. Quite Happy. Just got back from the dyno day in hallam..

Very happy with what I got..

237.6 rwkw @ 7556 rpm..

Car is a 2004 VYII SS 5.7 M6 -

Mods :

Modified Air Box

Thats It.. No exhaust, no tune, not even a K&N filter.. nothing at all

First time i've had it on the dyno since I bought it and the only mod I've made so far is to the air box.. still has the standard filter element.. Still doing my research before anymore mods.. but this is a good starting point for me.. now to reach the skys :)

Bragging rights as far as I'm concerned.. Surprised a few people on the day.. even my self! :yahoo:

theres no possible way that u could get that figure out of a bog stock ls1,a very very very happy dyno mate.

[IH8FORDS]

I would liked to have seen what some of the tuned cars where getting then, are these guys reputable tuners at all, or just newbies to the game?

Luke

[FANG IT 350]

I would liked to have seen what some of the tuned cars where getting then, are these guys reputable tuners at all, or just newbies to the game?

Luke

yea i reackon mine would be good for 350 plus on that dyno wouldnt that be nice to have.:rofl:

[macca33]

I was there and don't truly know how the thing was calibrated or set-up, but I did see one particular PWR charged VX GTS run 334rwkw, which is opposed to the 340rwkw that it made on the tuner's dyno - that tuner being a highly respected forum sponsor. In this instance, you'd have to agree that the dyno was fairly close.

Perhaps the dyno/car set-up varied between different cars, who knows?

Overall, it was a good day and another good turn-out from the LS1 crew.

Cheers,

Macca

[VXSS346]

I was there and don't truly know how the thing was calibrated or set-up, but I did see one particular PWR charged VX GTS run 334rwkw, which is opposed to the 340rwkw that it made on the tuner's dyno - that tuner being a highly respected forum sponsor. In this instance, you'd have to agree that the dyno was fairly close.

Perhaps the dyno/car set-up varied between different cars, who knows.

Cheers,

Macca

Yeah, must say I'm confused a bit too. But dyno numbers arn't that important anyway.

Take it to the strip!

[MADLS1]

Yep that was my donk.. I noticed on the cars like mine & some others with some poke that they spent time strapping down & asked a few more questions.. But dyno days are all about fun.. don't look into it to much!

Take it to the strip... MPH can never be happy or lie :)


Juzza

[TUFFIE]

Yep that was my donk.. I noticed on the cars like mine & some others with some poke that they spent time strapping down & asked a few more questions.. But dyno days are all about fun.. don't look into it to much!

Take it to the strip... MPH can never be happy or lie :)


Juzza

Yup all that matters is if you are happy with the way you car runs then you are Winning.
It was a Dyno day not a Tuning day... as far as I am aware most of the cars that I know made the Power that they were expected...

The track Puts to rest any reservations that ppl have about figures...

[grazzvzss ute]

Hey Guys.. Quite Happy. Just got back from the dyno day in hallam..

Very happy with what I got..

237.6 rwkw @ 7556 rpm..

Car is a 2004 VYII SS 5.7 M6 -

Mods :

Modified Air Box

Thats It.. No exhaust, no tune, not even a K&N filter.. nothing at all

First time i've had it on the dyno since I bought it and the only mod I've made so far is to the air box.. still has the standard filter element.. Still doing my research before anymore mods.. but this is a good starting point for me.. now to reach the skys :)

Bragging rights as far as I'm concerned.. Surprised a few people on the day.. even my self! :yahoo:

maybe its 237.6hp

[MADLS1]

there was a black VX clubby on the day that made 224rwkw & we all thought DAMMMM thats crazy for a stock car! I ran over & got Jezza to check the tune & we then found out that it had a tune... So you never know with used LS1's these days.


Juzza

[crtx]

guys,

its a day out have some fun meet new faces not a race or track and tune day.

Relax a little.

[macca_779]

there was a black VX clubby on the day that made 224rwkw & we all thought DAMMMM thats crazy for a stock car! I ran over & got Jezza to check the tune & we then found out that it had a tune... So you never know with used LS1's these days.


Juzza

Jez sent that tune to me to have a look. There was some crazy stuff going on with it. Certainly not done by any of our sponsors. I would hope

[MADLS1]

Jez sent that tune to me to have a look. There was some crazy stuff going on with it. Certainly not done by any of our sponsors. I would hope

Dam!! He has only had the car for a week & the past owner didnt say much about the car... Oh well its off to HPF soon for some mods anyway :)

Juzza

[JezzaB]

Dam!! He has only had the car for a week & the past owner didnt say much about the car... Oh well its off to HPF soon for some mods anyway :)

Juzza

Yup. A sponsor could really tweak some stuff in it. Make it feel even better to drive around.

Jez

[BLKVYSS]

Geeze.. I only posted the results as it was the first time I managed to get the car on a dyno.. and was happy with what happened..

I only typed what was on the sheet, so I could not be called a liar.. I do agree the RPM is out.. perhaps 6500rpm instead of 7500? I don't know.. I couldn't operate a dyno if I tried..

I never thought this was going to turn into one of those posts where I get called a loser or get flamed because my "stock" car cant make power..

In my time of modding cars, I've seen cars make power that was incredible.. You never know if you have something which for what ever reason makes more power than you think.. some times it's a fluke..

Once time goes by and I finish all my research and get all my mods done.. I'm when I have a list of things done and I say it makes over 400rwkw people will believe me then.. Obviously a stockish car making good power will make anybody jealous that has spent money to make power..

Look all I know is these cars are detuned and dont run what they would in the U.S. .. So maybe the previous owner had the computer edited? I don't know.. so as far I know it's only got the mod I did...

It's just shame people are quick to criticize.. I'm no fool.. I understand the dyno may be a little bit out.. but for fudge sake, on the day with all the other cars there (Including yours, MADLS1).. I was happy mine made what it did.. made a few people look closer..

This run was only a starting point to compare when I mod the car to see how the power changes.. I by no means think I am going to beat some highly modified cars.. I'm doing things the right way.. learning from peoples mistakes, and choosing the mods which will be most cost efficient.. Didn't think I was going to get the sort of replies I did..

After all I was merely posting the results I got.. not what I think I'm making.. I didn't actually ask what people thought might be wrong or why my car cant do this or that. Next time I ask what people think.. thats the time to say it should or shouldn't do things.. Fair enough people are going to say what they feel.. but think about what people will feel like after you say it..

Makes one feel like contributing to this forum sometimes is a waste of time because people just want to sound important by pointing out why someone is wrong.. Thought this was a place where owners of such cars could get together and share their passion about the cars we all love.. Not a place where some people are made to feel like they don't deserve to speak up?

my 2c anyway..

Cheers to the people with positive feed back :)

[SS Enforcer]

The trouble is mate that you will do some bolt on mods then run it on another dyno and lose 30 rwkw and then wonder what happened. I don't think guys were having a go at you personally but you have to realise that this site has had many thousands of members and the LS1's are fairly predictible. When I got my ute I worked out to within 1 rwkw what it should pull with bolt on mods 205 rwkw. This was based on other peoples experience with certain mods and added up. It never saw 237 rwkw after mods and a tune.

So probably best you don't touch yours as it will probably never go any better unless you slip a cam in it if you are to believe the 237 rwkw figure.

cheers

[bermudablue]

If the car drives nice...Dont worry bout it
Or you could take it somewhere else for a powerun and see what you get?
for your own peace of mind.It will cost you $50/100.
And then repost your result.

[Phantom_Menace]

Dont take it to heart mate, all the negative feed back. If I or anyone else had quoted the figures in your first post, we would all have been shot down. Just accept the fact that the figures do not match the mods that have been done so far. Get the flame suite off and enjoy your time here.

Phantom,

[keen]

It's a bit like haveing a missus that fakes her orgasm, as long as you never the know the truth,doesnt really matter does it.:confused:

Dont you think if the rpm is out that the kw is probably out by a similar amount?

Welcome to LS1 .....its fun.:)

[BLKVYSS]

[QUOTE=keen;921237]It's a bit like haveing a missus that fakes her orgasm, as long as you never the know the truth,doesnt really matter does it.:confused:
QUOTE]

Females are supposed to have orgasam's? Hmm.. I think I've been a bit selfish then :P




I unsderstand what people are saying.. and I do intend to have it re-dyno'd.. the other point I might make clear to is when I get more mods done.. I will be having all my dyno work done by a reputable LS1 tuner.. only

as said.. this was my first ever time on a dyno in this car.. and I got a bit of a woody and made me love my car for a day..

Can I keep my woody.. please? :)

[bermudablue]

Dont take it to heart mate, all the negative feed back. If I or anyone else had quoted the figures in your first post, we would all have been shot down.
Phantom,

Only the figures are being shot down.Your'e right it shouldn't be taken
personally

[macca_779]

power is a calculation of torque and RPM. Now its pretty obvious your RPM was out. So guess what so is your power.

[ratter]

How much did they charge for the dyno runs I assume you had more than 1 run

[keen]

Its a funny thing about dyno sheets ,it doesnt matter who it is or where its done someone will always think its wrong.


Actually I think its all a huge conspiracy by the opperators of the dyno,to keep us argueing about power figures.....so we get more power...more $$$$.

BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IH8FORDS]

Its a funny thing about dyno sheets ,it doesnt matter who it is or where its done someone will always think its wrong.


Actually I think its all a huge conspiracy by the opperators of the dyno,to keep us argueing about power figures.....so we get more power...more $$$$.

BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You could be on to something here keen:confused:

[MADLS1]

I have built... ummm carry the 2 :confused:... 4 LS1's now and I have learnt never get wrapped up in the whole dyno thing... just stick to MPH!

When I had my bolt on SV8 I copped it all about having a bolt on auto LS1 making 250rwkw... and it then backed it up at the LS1 nats with 116mph on 19's!

if you make 230rwkw & do an otrcai or something & then pull 238rwkw on the same dyno... then be happy! it's there to tune cars!

If you have 350rwkw & go to the strip & run 115mph... then crack the s^&ts I say!

Dyno days are just for fun... So don't stress!

Juzza

[FANG IT 350]

in my experience while modding my ute,3 diffrent dynos 3 different figures,one tuner up to 16 rwkw over my previous power run on another dyno,its like a lottery u just have to find the right tuner who doesnt fudge the results to try and get your dollar.:soap:

[MADLS1]

in my experience while modding my ute,3 diffrent dynos 3 different figures,one tuner up to 16 rwkw over my previous power run on another dyno,its like a lottery u just have to find the right tuner who doesnt fudge the results to try and get your dollar.:soap:

Its not about a fudge figger e.t.c. .... its there to tune a car

Ok The dyno on the day was a dynamics test system.. most main shops use dyno dynamics & I noticed on the bigger HP cars like mine they strapped it down tight & checked the AFR's e.t.c. ... .And the stock cars got rushed off the rollers

You have to look into factors on the day when you dyno a car... So dont read into it! MPH DOESN'T LIE!!.... so head to the strip :)

[JezzaB]

Dont worry about it mate, wasnt meant to be a dig at you. Im personnally over dyno days, results are up down left right. As long as it feels good and your happy when you drive it, it doesnt matter. Just hate when you go to a dyno day, pull a big figure and then go to another one and your disappointed. I prefer to take the lower readings now days. When it gets run up at the workshop I dont even bother with a dyno sheet now just get a before and after on a paper napkin :lol:

Jez

[TUFFIE]

"I was there and don't truly know how the thing was calibrated or set-up, but I did see one particular PWR charged VX GTS run 334rwkw, which is opposed to the 340rwkw that it made on the tuner's dyno - that tuner being a highly respected forum sponsor. In this instance, you'd have to agree that the dyno was fairly close."


Ok so if the Dyno was so wrong Please explain this.. ALL you experts out there.

I guess if you are not a Sponsor or a name workshop.. your not worthy on here..

[clubbie]

BLKVYSS

No one's having a go at you buddy, after all you didn't operate the dyno.

Just food for thought guys - if it was set for a six cyl engine that would put max power at about 5700rpm which from memory is about right for a non-cammed GenIII.

Me thinks the dyno operator just didn't swap form 6 to 8cyl setting's for rpm. I'm certainly no dyno guru as I have no idea what difference that would make to the final rwkw reading.

Clubbie

BTW you gotta love the sound of your own car on a power run on the dyno.

[MADLS1]

"I was there and don't truly know how the thing was calibrated or set-up, but I did see one particular PWR charged VX GTS run 334rwkw, which is opposed to the 340rwkw that it made on the tuner's dyno - that tuner being a highly respected forum sponsor. In this instance, you'd have to agree that the dyno was fairly close."


Ok so if the Dyno was so wrong Please explain this.. ALL you experts out there.

I guess if you are not a Sponsor or a name workshop.. your not worthy on here..

Hey btw... ask them where my trophy is :banana:

[ActionDan]

LoL, this is still going?

*unsubscribe* :confused:

[TUFFIE]

Hey btw... ask them where my trophy is :banana:

Trophy? for what class? Blown.
I believe the XY won that....I was led to believe that Nitros is considered as forced induction.
correct me if I'm wrong. I am just the messanger. So don't shoot.:outlaw::rocket:

[MADLS1]

Trophy? for what class? Blown.
I believe the XY won that....I was led to believe that Nitros is considered as forced induction.
correct me if I'm wrong. I am just the messanger. So don't shoot.:outlaw::rocket:

Sorry but thats just BS!!! Blown to me = Supercharged

they had V8 NA, V8 TURBO & V8 BLOWN

NOS = assisted :confused:

I have been rolled :bawl:

[ratter]

Nos is allways considered forced induction