Need to take out a loan for plugs and leads

[HSVGTS215i]

Just went down to Holden with the intention of getting a new set of plugs and leads in an attempt to cure the rough idle.

Yes sir the plugs are $25 each and the leads are $35 each.

$25 x 8 = $200
$35 x 8 = $280

For a grand total of $480 !!!!!!

I couldnt believe it so I walked around to the Service Dept and booked it in to get fixed under warranty hahaha Worth a try... I did try to get it fixed at another dealer and was told the rough idle is normal. Now if this was a 1970s Kingswood that answer would be acceptable but this is a modern car that should idle smooth as silk.

Ive also told them to look at the backlash that the same "other" dealer said wasnt there and a problem with the CD player eating CDs. I'll let you know how I go.

Fingers crossed.

[XLR8 V8]

Why on earth would you want genuine holden plugs and leads?

The aftermarket alternatives are cheaper (and better)

[BLACKWAGON]

I thought everyone said the aftermarket leads were crap and the stock leads were better.

[HSVGTS215i]

Well so far Ive always used genuine parts so figured Id keep doing it till I found out how much these cost.

Which ones should I use?


I thought everyone said the aftermarket leads were crap and the stock leads were better.

Yeah I read that as well (I did use the search function :D)

[macca_779]

Just use NGK BPR6EF-15's. Very common among us here and they are cheap at about $20-25 a set. You just have to change them more regularly. OEM leads are good too. A mate uses MSD's and my standard ones have a lower resistance

[BLACKWAGON]

Find someone who works for holden to get them for you, will be a huge difference.
Maybe offer a slab or bottle to an apprentice spare parts guy for his help?
Used to work for me yrs ago, saved a few hundred on headlights and bits and pieces as the markup is farkn ridiculous.

[VooDoo]

Plugs are $3ea and leads $110 a set.

[macca_779]

I thought everyone said the aftermarket leads were crap and the stock leads were better.
yes that is correct

[HSVGTS215i]

Does anyone in here work for any Perth Holden dealers and wants a carton of piss? hahaha

[Dickie Knee]

89017270 Set of 8 leads. RRP$ 181.50

12571164 Spark plugs ( Iridium ) RRP$ 21.89 ea

[XLR8 V8]

Use NGK Iridium BPR6EF-15 plugs for approx $20 a set and a set of magnecor (or stock) leads for a max of $180/set

Total price of about $200 and you're laughing

[cashie]

89017270 Set of 8 leads. RRP$ 181.50

12571164 Spark plugs ( Iridium ) RRP$ 21.89 ea

Are these the VYII-on red leads Dickie?
Is there any difference between the red and black leads?

[Black VU SS ute]

i paid 112 for the topgun 10mm leads, and about 120 for the platium ngk plugs

[planetdavo]

Are these the VYII-on red leads?
Is there any difference between the red and black leads?
Black leads are discontinued. Red only now, in single or a set.


Use NGK Iridium BPR6EF-15 plugs for approx $20 a set
These are the regular copper core plugs.

[chris]

yes that is correct

gee funny how the only problems i had were with the stock leads,60000ks with magnacor not one problem.

[macca33]

Yep, the 'aftermarket - custom made' set of leads with thinner plug boots that do not contact the extractors that I've had in for 25,000k's, have performed faultlessly. The full set cost me $115.

I had been quoted $240 for a genuine set - bugger that for a joke.

And yep, the NGK BPR6EF plugs are cheap and work well.

Cheers,

Macca

[iamhappy46]

Under $120 for a set of NGK BPR6EFIX-15 iridium spark plugs. Much better spark plugs than the coppers and last nearly as long as the NGK Platinums(or about 60,000km's longer than the Holden supplied platinums :rofl:)

[Dickie Knee]

Under $120 for a set of NGK BPR6EFIX-15 iridium spark plugs. Much better spark plugs than the coppers and last nearly as long as the NGK Platinums(or about 60,000km's longer than the Holden supplied platinums :rofl:)


Holden don't use Platinums in VY / VZ :confused:

12571164 Spark plugs ( Iridium )

VT / VX use

12563707 Spark Plug RRP$ 8.96 ea

[DaveHAT]

Yep, the 'aftermarket - custom made' set of leads with thinner plug boots that do not contact the extractors that I've had in for 25,000k's, have performed faultlessly. The full set cost me $115.


Interesting Macca, I found the same thing when I fitted the DiFillipo headers, the front plug lead boot on both sides touched solidly on the header tubes.

I fitted the Splitfire leads :hide: and ironically despite the poor rep they've been OK. OEM leads are good and another plug worth trying is the NGK-TR6 plugs, slighly dearer than the NGK BPR6EF-15 but also a slightly colder plug.

[-HSV-]

Holden don't use Platinums in VY / VZ :confused:

12571164 Spark plugs ( Iridium )

VT / VX use

12563707 Spark Plug RRP$ 8.96 ea

are you sure? im pretty sure the change was at VYI>VYII?

[Dickie Knee]

are you sure? im pretty sure the change was at VYI>VYII?

Sorry yes the change point is VY1 / VY2
Microcat lists Iridium for VY2 and VZ. Platinum for VT to VY1

[Gilly74]

Just use NGK BPR6EF-15's. Very common among us here and they are cheap at about $20-25 a set. You just have to change them more regularly. OEM leads are good too. A mate uses MSD's and my standard ones have a lower resistance


Concur with Macca, standard plugs are great and work just as well as the iridium or pallidium alternatives - unless your looking to not change the plugs for 80K km or so were the low reactivity of these metals stops the excessive build up of carbon.

Testing that we conducted on two stoke racing engines over a very wide range of plugs ranging from standar NGK EG plugs to the very exotic purpose built GP plugs should no appreciable difference in performance in dyno testing. However we did find that due to the exotic plugs having a much smaller electode there was irregular burn patterns on the top of pistons (we think because of the reduced surface area for the spark to arc around) and they were more suspectible to wet fouling. The standard plugs seemed to hold a more consistent, easier to read tune as well. Not directly relevant to an LS1 but I think the exercise shows transferable results.

Magnecor make excellent plugs leads. A little expensive but you should never need to change them for the useful life of the car.

[VZ clubsport r8]

Go ngk plugs and a good set of aftermarket leads from any reputable speed shop
heaps better and cheaper.

[thnk_again]

bit of topic but not really.... are the msd coil packs any good from what i read on hear there no good but has any one used em whats there thoughts?

[macca_779]

bit of topic but not really.... are the msd coil packs any good from what i read on hear there no good but has any one used em whats there thoughts?


I tuned a VX last week with MSD packs and leads. The car was a pain in the arse to get the timing table right. I get better results from stock packs.

[trex101]

Just went down to Holden with the intention of getting a new set of plugs and leads in an attempt to cure the rough idle.

Yes sir the plugs are $25 each and the leads are $35 each.

$25 x 8 = $200
$35 x 8 = $280

For a grand total of $480 !!!!!!

I couldnt believe it so I walked around to the Service Dept and booked it in to get fixed under warranty hahaha Worth a try... I did try to get it fixed at another dealer and was told the rough idle is normal. Now if this was a 1970s Kingswood that answer would be acceptable but this is a modern car that should idle smooth as silk.

Ive also told them to look at the backlash that the same "other" dealer said wasnt there and a problem with the CD player eating CDs. I'll let you know how I go.

Fingers crossed.

Do a search in ebay, you can get NGK iridium IX for $12 each.

[RAVENLS1]

ICE Ignition sell 9mm leads for $204

[Rt!]

American autos/Rare spares does MSD leads for $97.50

[H.T]

Just to clarify, I own a VYII and when last at Holden was told by the spare parts guy to just buy the platinum plugs as they are considerably cheaper and last just as long.

As it is a VYII, I understand it is meant to have the Iridium plugs.

Has anyone done this with there VYII or VZ?

Is there much difference in these plugs, i.e. will the car loose performance, or will it damage the computer/electricals?

[jezza85]

Just went down to Holden with the intention of getting a new set of plugs and leads in an attempt to cure the rough idle.

Yes sir the plugs are $25 each and the leads are $35 each.

$25 x 8 = $200
$35 x 8 = $280

For a grand total of $480 !!!!!!

I couldnt believe it so I walked around to the Service Dept and booked it in to get fixed under warranty hahaha Worth a try... I did try to get it fixed at another dealer and was told the rough idle is normal. Now if this was a 1970s Kingswood that answer would be acceptable but this is a modern car that should idle smooth as silk.

Ive also told them to look at the backlash that the same "other" dealer said wasnt there and a problem with the CD player eating CDs. I'll let you know how I go.

Fingers crossed.

WoW if I had to pay $480 for plugs and leads, everytime a change came around I think I would just buy a new car.:lmao:

[Millsy]

i know its an old thread, but does anybody know anything about the quality of the ICE ignition leads? thanks in advance

cheers

Millsy

[chook]

Old Thread about leads

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=71786&highlight=leads

[smokey777]

ya just had holden do a few things for 80k service the platnium plugs were $98 lol

runs smoother though, they said other plugs were pretty shagged though

[VZSSL986LTRUTE]

so if money was not the biggest issue wat is the top company making leads and plugs?

[BLACK 346]

so if money was not the biggest issue wat is the top company making leads and plugs?

I am probably going to grab some 10mm Top Guns soon, $150 delivered
and always found them good on other cars.