Hsv Gts-r?

[geary]

What do you reckon?

We've heard the rumours, some confirming this will happen. Even orders have been placed. With the LS3 or LS7, perhaps some stripes, this would look the part.

HSV GTS-R (http://www.cgiautomotive.com/cars/holden-hsvgtsr.htm)

[planetdavo]

Computer generated images are just someones thoughts on how things MIGHT look.
It might be accurate, it might not be.
Personally, that site doesn't do much for me regarding the truth.

[`redoctober]

No offence geary but I really don't like this one :\

Nice chopping though.

[geary]

Computer generated images are just someones thoughts on how things MIGHT look.
It might be accurate, it might not be.


Nah it's not accurate. I took a punt, hence the question mark. :yup:

[BLACKWAGON]

There is a custom vz being built at the moment for an LS7.

[CV860L]

HSV-105 already has a deposit on an LS7 GTS-R.
My bet is they won't look anything like that................I think they will be understated like the HRT 427.
Either no spoiler or a small boot lip spoiler, lightweight rims, competition tyres, bigger brakes and an upgraded driveline.
Can't wait to see them...........

[mustanger]

I dont think I will be paying 150K for that,if it comes out. Not enough changes from the "standard" GTS........:bawl: John

[BadMac]

Like your work Geary, but agree the GTS-R should look better than that. Colour doesn't help, it looks meek it should look tough, try fusion or something else racy.

And rather than just moan about Gearys work, why not suggest what you would want, so if Geary can chop it up and see how close you get to the real thing (if the real thing actually becomes real).

Personally, I'd want more frontal and rear differentiation, functional vents and scoops for brakes, something aggresive for a CAI/RAM air intake, not small subtle nostrils. Something that looks like its just won bathhurst, even though its only the transport home.

By the way Geary, still waiting to see your Orion work. Don't keep us in suspense too much longer or we will see pictures of the real thing, so won't need chops.

[planetdavo]

And rather than just moan about Gearys work, why not suggest what you would want, so if Geary can chop it up and see how close you get to the real thing (if the real thing actually becomes real).

Still doesn't make it any more "real".

[BadMac]

Still doesn't make it any more "real".


Thanks for that.

[geary]

Yeah Mac I'll do a new one if you throw some specific ideas down. The 'won at bathurst' idea is inspiring, but not specific enough.

[Crispy]

i like plz get me one

[BadMac]

Maybe take the design cues from this and update to 4 door and VE.

Also those tailights look familar.

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/gtsr.JPG

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/gtsr2.JPG

[Alex(AUS)]

Yeah, mix it with that GTSR ... I think there are some hints there ...

BTW, where is the new Orion CGI (I know everyone is asking)? :D

Alex

[X BC X]

besides the ls7, my biggest wish would be for 'functional' vents, not slap on plastic pretty bits.

nicw try geary, not my cup of tea but keep up the good efforts.

bc

[BELZEY]

I dont think I will be paying 150K for that,if it comes out. Not enough changes from the "standard" GTS........:bawl: John

I agree it would have to look a lot better than that to throw that kind of money at it.. :)

[geary]

Updated version.

It's not much, but it's a new facia that attempts to incorporate some of the GTS-R Monaro elements. There is one particular element on the GTS-R Monaro that looks like it will feature on the Orion FPVs.

UPDATE (http://www.cgiautomotive.com/cars/holden-hsvgtsrII.htm)

Also, Alex, Orion is being held back and its out of my hands. Sorry!

[goofafidamedes]

I reckon if HSV do a GTS-R it will have a big tea-tray style rear wing, maybe a little like the Lambo R-GT.

Remember, GTS-R would imply "race" and what better way to play that card than a big bodykit with some kind of splitter(doesn't have to be huge), a Pontiac Ram-Air hood (the vented bonnet you see in the 'chops) and a big rear wing. Not too big, so you don't get in trouble for clipping unsuspecting pedestrians. We wouldn't want to annoy Scruby now would we?

[Evman]

Can anyone do a VE GTSR similar style to that of the GTSR Coupe? I too think it'll be a 'cleaner' car like the coupe. They both have great proportions and curves, I reckon HSV will accentuate this fact, again. :thumbsup:

[geary]

They both have great proportions and curves, I reckon HSV will accentuate this fact, again. :thumbsup:

You do realise that 'proportions and curves' are accentuated only by sheetmetal changes. Generally big ones.

[Knight Phlier]

If it was more aimed as a race car why not have it with a Supercar body kit but genuine from HSV?

[goofafidamedes]

If it was more aimed as a race car why not have it with a Supercar body kit but genuine from HSV?

That's what I'm thinking - something with a toned down aero effect but with some semblance of ground clearance - not much though... and with a wing that is pedestrian legal.

That wouldn't prevent a nice diffuser at the rear with some real effect to it, something which at speed will suck the car onto the ground.

[Sonic_Brew]

What do you reckon?

We've heard the rumours, some confirming this will happen. Even orders have been placed. With the LS3 or LS7, perhaps some stripes, this would look the part.


Orders and deposits were placed for the HRT427 too... I'll believe it when/if I see it.

[BadMac]

Since the new thread with the more correct title got closed, here is the news.

The latest issue of WHEELS has got a scoop story on a 7 litre HSV that's due to be revealed at the Sydney Motor Show in October and dealers are already taking orders. They're tipping it'll produce 385kWs and 640Nm. Only 100-150 will be built. According to WHEELS' sources, the engine costs less than the C4B Callaway 5.7 used in the VT-VX GTS so a price of around $100-125K is expected.
WHEELS are expecting that it'll be called the GTS-R 427.

[macca@NJCCorp]

On top of that it will be M6 only (thank god) with the MM6 variant. The motor weighs the same as an LS2. The box is 2kg heavier.
There will be an empathesis on torque limiting to keep the running gear safe (us tuners will fix that).

So yeah finally a real VE GTS to take its proper place as HSV's flagship.

[57NIT]

So yeah finally a real VE GTS to take its proper place as HSV's flagship.

They should have done this to begin with. GTS is king again.

[SV346]

Performance times for it are an expected mid 4's to 100, and low 12's for the 400 :p, it will make a scene at the up coming motor show apparently.

385kw, around 650nm

[korrupt]

So it isn't the LS7 ?

[NickS]

Performance times for it are an expected mid 4's to 100, and low 12's for the 400 :p, it will make a scene at the up coming motor show apparently.

385kw, around 650nm

So basically the same as a tuned (+ exhaust) SS ... :confused:

If you are looking to buy one of these and keep it mint in the shed then I can possibly see the point in spending the extra. If you are going to drive it everyday like we do I think you would be mad to spend $50K more than a GTS. Just doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway ... I'm sure who ever gets them will have fun.

[Pickles]

Yeah, well I guess it is a lot of money, but in the past, people paid $100k for a 10th Anniversary Senator, & also for GTS Coupes. For some people (not me!), $125k isn't much at all, particularly if the business is paying for it.
And, the LS7 really is supposed to be something special, if one listens to some of the reports on the Z06 Corvette--I read of one test around the Nurbergring (have I spelt it right?!), & the tester was just blown away with this engine.
So, bearing in mind the price of previous HSVs, some not very special at all, I reckon $125k is reasonable.
I've only heard rumours about this car, nothing concrete, I just hope that this time the rumours are true-not much hope of me owning one--but I'll just settle for a ride--or better still, I'll just line up for a ride in a real supercar,--Mark's 427 GTO, some picture's of which I've just seen in the latest HSVOC magazine--now that IS being built, & it WILL be awesome!
Cheers, Pickles.

[hsv-105]

Yeah, well I guess it is a lot of money, but in the past, people paid $100k for a 10th Anniversary Senator, & also for GTS Coupes. For some people (not me!), $125k isn't much at all, particularly if the business is paying for it.
And, the LS7 really is supposed to be something special, if one listens to some of the reports on the Z06 Corvette--I read of one test around the Nurbergring (have I spelt it right?!), & the tester was just blown away with this engine.
So, bearing in mind the price of previous HSVs, some not very special at all, I reckon $125k is reasonable.
I've only heard rumours about this car, nothing concrete, I just hope that this time the rumours are true-not much hope of me owning one--but I'll just settle for a ride--or better still, I'll just line up for a ride in a real supercar,--Mark's 427 GTO, some picture's of which I've just seen in the latest HSVOC magazine--now that IS being built, & it WILL be awesome!
Cheers, Pickles.



Pickles your at the top of the list for a ride in the GTO mate.Should be finished sometime before Christmas.

Lets hope that these latest GTS-R rumours are on the money.

Cheers Mark

[Alex(AUS)]

So basically the same as a tuned (+ exhaust) SS ... :confused:

If you are looking to buy one of these and keep it mint in the shed then I can possibly see the point in spending the extra. If you are going to drive it everyday like we do I think you would be mad to spend $50K more than a GTS. Just doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway ... I'm sure who ever gets them will have fun.

Hi Nick,

It isnt really equivalent to a tuned SS ... the GTSR would be around of 310rwkw. You would need a bit more than a tune and some pipes to get to that figure ... obviously there are also engine characteristics to consider here ... but if we are arguing value for money in power output alone, it would need to run a 9 second pass to be worth the additional cost :D. Personally, if the engine was the only difference, I would pay a 15k premium without thinking twice. And, I know you would too.

I hope they release it in a Senator ...

Alex

[Pulse 8]

I would order one in the blink of an eye if it had 2 less doors, but no four door sedan is tempting enough for me. Still hope they bring it out though, so that way, a couple of years down the track there should be a few reasonably priced 7 litre engines floating around to slide into the wifes V2 CV8.:)
Happy Cruizin.

[2 cylinders shy]

Yeah, well I guess it is a lot of money, but in the past, people paid $100k for a 10th Anniversary Senator, & also for GTS Coupes. For some people (not me!), $125k isn't much at all, particularly if the business is paying for it.
And, the LS7 really is supposed to be something special, if one listens to some of the reports on the Z06 Corvette--I read of one test around the Nurbergring (have I spelt it right?!), & the tester was just blown away with this engine.
So, bearing in mind the price of previous HSVs, some not very special at all, I reckon $125k is reasonable.
I've only heard rumours about this car, nothing concrete, I just hope that this time the rumours are true-not much hope of me owning one--but I'll just settle for a ride--or better still, I'll just line up for a ride in a real supercar,--Mark's 427 GTO, some picture's of which I've just seen in the latest HSVOC magazine--now that IS being built, & it WILL be awesome!
Cheers, Pickles.

What he said. I too have seen some pictures and judging by his previous car it is going to be awsome!

[quinny-8]

Latest Wheels mag says the GTS R will have LS7 and will be displayed at the Sydney motor show in October

[Vulture]

I would pay a 15k premium without thinking twice. And, I know you would too.

Alex, I also wouldn't hesitate to spend an extra $15k but I am sure that it would be a much higher premium over a base GTS.

[TLX]

Sounds the goods:)

Anyone heard any specs on suspension, drive train, wheel & brake sizes ??

Tully

[BLQWN]

I would order one in the blink of an eye if it had 2 less doors, but no four door sedan is tempting enough for me.

I would be too..

[Pickles]

Well, at the HSVOC meeting last night, new HSV MD Scott Grant had a copy of Wheels--said it was a very interesting article, BUT THAT IT'S NOT TRUE!
He said that although they have a car running around with an LS7 in it, that is only one vehicle--they have various options under consideration for the future, including various powertrains--just normal developmental options.
BUT, HE SAID, THERE ARE NO FIRM PLANS, AT THIS STAGE, TO PUT AN LS7 POWERED VEHICLE INTO PRODUCTION!.
I asked him the likelehood of seeing an LS7 in any HSV vehicle within 2 years, & he said "50/50".
Cheers, Pickles.

[LJCHSV]

Im sorry.......but i cant wait 2 years on a maybe.

[seedyrom]

Well, at the HSVOC meeting last night, new HSV MD Scott Grant

Geez, that's pretty decent that the MD shows up to the meeting. Does that always happen? or was it a one-off?

[BadMac]

Well, at the HSVOC meeting last night, new HSV MD Scott Grant had a copy of Wheels--said it was a very interesting article, BUT THAT IT'S NOT TRUE!
He said that although they have a car running around with an LS7 in it, that is only one vehicle--they have various options under consideration for the future, including various powertrains--just normal developmental options.
BUT, HE SAID, THERE ARE NO FIRM PLANS, AT THIS STAGE, TO PUT AN LS7 POWERED VEHICLE INTO PRODUCTION!.
I asked him the likelehood of seeing an LS7 in any HSV vehicle within 2 years, & he said "50/50".
Cheers, Pickles.

I hope you get him back in 3 months time to discuss why he misled people (if it turns out that there is a Aniversary model). ie why did a LS7 VE go down the production line at Holden? Why are dealers taking deposits? He could hardly confirm it at your meeting could he, that would take the surprise away.

I prefer to gossip about HSV's Sydney motor show surprise.

[Big Wig]

At the meeting he said that there will definately NOT be a GTSR at the Sydeny Motor Show and HSV have sent communciations to the dealers asking them not to take orders / deposits/

When a dealer takes a deposit they only do so in case it comes off and HSV have nothing to do with it.

He did say that the LS7 engineer car was on hell of a ride but they couldn't keep the diffs in it + other drivetrain issues.

The HSVOC does have regular contact with HSV and having our meeting at HSV in Clayton we do see regular management esp Chris Payne in his days as Sales & Marketing Manager + John Crenan (once a year). Scott seems like a genuine guy

He even mention that the Maloo would make a good Christmas present and that a Wagon was a high probability post Holden's announcement on the VE wagon

[NewVLT]

He even mention that the Maloo would make a good Christmas present and that a Wagon was a high probability post Holden's announcement on the VE wagon

I have everything crossed for a Senator wagon.

Whatever happens it sound like there's some interesting things coming from HSV in 2008 for their 20th anniversary according to the latest issue of AMC.

[Pickles]

I hope you get him back in 3 months time to discuss why he misled people (if it turns out that there is a Aniversary model). ie why did a LS7 VE go down the production line at Holden? Why are dealers taking deposits? He could hardly confirm it at your meeting could he, that would take the surprise away.

I prefer to gossip about HSV's Sydney motor show surprise.
I never mentioned an "Anniversary" model--quite possibly there will be one--I wouldn't know--I'm simply saying that we have been told that the Wheels article is incorrect, & that there are no current plans to put an LS7 engined car into production. Whatever the "surprise" is at the Sydney motor show, it obviously will not be an LS7 engined car, that will form part of the then current HSV retail range.
And yes, we do have reasonably regular visits from HSV mamagement--who have to answer some fairly "interesting" questions from time to time!
Cheers, Pickles.

[NonSense]

The Aniversary Model I think you are refering to is the 20th Aniversary Clubsport R8. Might get free leather and a roof or something along those lines but not a new motor it will be the LS2.

[Avalanche]

MMMMM, updated avalanche wagon:bow:

[CharlieDontSurf]

Who's to say that there isnt a special with an ls3 in it or non ls7 "7lt"? Scott didnt deny that from what Pickles was saying. I reckon the ls3 would be the logical choice for a "GTSR" type car or whatever its called, while the clubby senator, Grange and GTS can all recoup some development cost of the ls2. Maybe the ls3 will be an engine option on GTS/Senator/Grange (MRC Cars)without any name change. Similar type of optioning to the stoker Holden V8 in the VS series. Anything possible.

All of the above just healthy speculation::)

[DuffMan]

Well, at the HSVOC meeting last night, new HSV MD Scott Grant had a copy of Wheels--said it was a very interesting article, BUT THAT IT'S NOT TRUE!
He said that although they have a car running around with an LS7 in it, that is only one vehicle--they have various options under consideration for the future, including various powertrains--just normal developmental options.
BUT, HE SAID, THERE ARE NO FIRM PLANS, AT THIS STAGE, TO PUT AN LS7 POWERED VEHICLE INTO PRODUCTION!.
I asked him the likelehood of seeing an LS7 in any HSV vehicle within 2 years, & he said "50/50".
Cheers, Pickles.

Now i'm not saying that your wrong, because i honestly don't know. However, if HSV IS secretly planning to unvail an LS7 powered anniversary model at the Sydney motor show do you honestly think the MD would tell you and a room full of people? Especially considering how quickely you were to jump on the net and quote exactly what he said. That wouldn't be a smart way of keeping a secret now would it!

[Big Wig]

Now i'm not saying that your wrong, because i honestly don't know. However, if HSV IS secretly planning to unvail an LS7 powered anniversary model at the Sydney motor show do you honestly think the MD would tell you and a room full of people? Especially considering how quickely you were to jump on the net and quote exactly what he said. That wouldn't be a smart way of keeping a secret now would it!

Duff

I hear what your saying but they get asked these questions all the time (like will the VEII still have a LS2) and they often avoid a direct answer such as 50/50.

He did say the likely hood of a 7ltr in the next 2-years was 50/50 BUT they rarely come and say that its is 100% untrue which he did last night.

As Scott said all this speculation is good for business and I'm sure they'll have something for the Motor Show just not a GTS-R

[nang3]

So basically the same as a tuned (+ exhaust) SS ... :confused:

If you are looking to buy one of these and keep it mint in the shed then I can possibly see the point in spending the extra. If you are going to drive it everyday like we do I think you would be mad to spend $50K more than a GTS. Just doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway ... I'm sure who ever gets them will have fun.


hmm thats what i was thinking... same as a tuned phoon with injectors and high flow cat..

[korrupt]

BUT, HE SAID, THERE ARE NO FIRM PLANS, AT THIS STAGE, TO PUT AN LS7 POWERED VEHICLE INTO PRODUCTION!.

At the meeting he said that there will definately NOT be a GTSR at the Sydeny Motor Show and HSV have sent communciations to the dealers asking them not to take orders / deposits

If they are direct quotes, then he hasn't really denied anything. If there are no firm plans at this stage, I bet sometime in October after the Motor Show, those plans will be very firm, very quickly.

To get around the second quote, all they have to do is call the show car the '20th Anniversary Special' and not refer to it as a GTSR. Easily done and then when they actually announce it, no-one can call them liars.

[Falcon Freak]

A new milestone in Australian peformance cars is coming. But Wheels magazine timing is wrong as this ground breaking HSV model will not go on sale until 2008.

I bet the complaints from the public about 'lethal Holden projectiles' won't be as vocal as what occurred when Ford announced the F6 Typhoon model.

FF

[VooDoo]

For those that havent seen it

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/%7Ejx/hsv1t.jpghttp://home.swiftdsl.com.au/%7Ejx/hsv2t.jpg

[OLDYELLA65]

For those that havent seen it

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/%7Ejx/hsv1t.jpghttp://home.swiftdsl.com.au/%7Ejx/hsv2t.jpg

Doesn't do my PRINTING JUSTICE !!!:)

[hogs]

Evening,

Sorry, but what is the announcement on the VE WAGON????:smilesandbanana:

Please point me in the correct direction for this.:bow:

Cheers,

Hogs,:)

[spank]

Now i'm not saying that your wrong, because i honestly don't know. However, if HSV IS secretly planning to unvail an LS7 powered anniversary model at the Sydney motor show do you honestly think the MD would tell you and a room full of people? Especially considering how quickely you were to jump on the net and quote exactly what he said. That wouldn't be a smart way of keeping a secret now would it!

no BUT, he wouldnt then send emails and faxes to every HSV dealer telling them that this story is fiction and NOT to take any monies for pre orders either, its a new experience for me to have a HSV dealer not want to seperate me from my cash!

[Evman]

I think the LS3 power is too close to that of the LS2 to be a viable GTS-R or equivalent "anniversary" engine. The LS7 has enough legroom for it to not be developed any further for the next few years, the same as the Callaway LS1, allowing production/development costs to be spread over several models rather than one.

You do realise that 'proportions and curves' are accentuated only by sheetmetal changes. Generally big ones.

No they're not. To accentuate you can draw focus to, or emphasise. By taking away a big eye catching spoiler and using more suble bodykits, it can easily accentuate the cars standard sheetmetal curves and proportions.

[Alex(AUS)]

This whole things sounds mega suss ... I dont understand why a few LS7s would be fitted at the Holden plant if there was only 1 in the country and it was only being used as an evaluation mule ... the engine is virtually identical to the LS2, if it has gone to the stage where they are test fitting them at Holden rest assured it is coming ... and it is coming.

Alex

[BadMac]

I never mentioned an "Anniversary" model--quite possibly there will be one--I wouldn't know--I'm simply saying that we have been told that the Wheels article is incorrect, & that there are no current plans to put an LS7 engined car into production. Whatever the "surprise" is at the Sydney motor show, it obviously will not be an LS7 engined car, that will form part of the then current HSV retail range.
And yes, we do have reasonably regular visits from HSV mamagement--who have to answer some fairly "interesting" questions from time to time!
Cheers, Pickles.

Note before I start: I have not read wheels, I am just quoting what has been reported elsewhere, but this is apparently some of the text from the article.

100 to 150 of these will be built and one has already been down the production line to test its dry sump clearance to the Cross member. It will have a completely revised driveline and with 620Nm of torque is expected to be by far the fastest Australian production car ever built. With genuine 12 second quaters expected and a $120 000 price tag it will be as fast as a M5 at half the price. Holden Dealers have had an idea about it for a while and have taken deposits on them already. The first prototype was a white VE GTS that went down the line to see if any of the componets would effect assembly as they are different to the normal GTS and had a tag on it DONT REV PAST 4000rpm.


There were posts on this forum from a Holden insider who saw the LS7 car go down the line recently. It was not the LS7 car that HSV have had running around for a while now. The HSV story does not add up.

Personally I think they will show something at the motor show to gauge opinion, then annouce for sale early in 08. It may be its not called GTS/R which would mean your man was not lying, hell they could call it GTHO for all I care.

[mustanger]

Note before I start: I have not read wheels, I am just quoting what has been reported elsewhere, but this is apparently some of the text from the article.




There were posts on this forum from a Holden insider who saw the LS7 car go down the line recently. It was not the LS7 car that HSV have had running around for a while now. The HSV story does not add up.

Personally I think they will show something at the motor show to gauge opinion, then annouce for sale early in 08. It may be its not called GTS/R which would mean your man was not lying, hell they could call it GTHO for all I care.

It may even be called the GTS427,simple as that.

[OLDYELLA65]

Same old story we had with the Monaro... So why won't it happen if it's all available... DENY..DENY.. DENY... THAT'S ONLY STANDARD MANAGEMENT DRIBBLE!!! It must really piss them of that Everyone outside of thier loop gets so close to the mark on these things..No secrets..with loose lips!!:moon:

[hsv-105]

Did anybody notice who actually penned the article -

Now come on Mr John West tell us more................

[Street_Tuna]

I was waiting for someone to pick up on that :wave:

[BadMac]

From AFF, where at least 3 different people have confirmed its all go for 2008, including one who has done work on it. Seems the HSV have confirmed the name won't be GTS/R so wheels have that bit wrong.

http://athena.divshare.com/files/2007/06/26/1084675/HSVb.jpg
http://athena.divshare.com/files/2007/06/26/1084672/HSVa.jpg

[GEN III]

fark me if that's all true. :smilesandbanana:

[brentonsav]

if this is true, i wonder if the LS7 will be a common offering once the drivetrain is strengthened?
if it isnt and 100-150 is the number of LS7's to find in commodores from the factory, surely this will quickly become a collectors item and we wont see them on the road.

[OLDYELLA65]

On the gearbox I was told HOLINGER have DONE the r&d and produced the BOX for the state side Corvette??? Anyone:eyes:??

[Uncle Tone]

I was waiting for someone to pick up on that :wave:

Tuna you bastard.....you knew ages ago and didn't tell us....:nutkick:

[LSX-438]

hmm all this talk of (yet another) HSV 427ci project makes me want to go and fang my 438ci monaro for a bit

BBL!

[Snapper]

I was waiting for someone to pick up on that :wave:

It's the rumours that John West rejects that makes Street Tuna the best! :bow:

[NickS]

hmm all this talk of (yet another) HSV 427ci project makes me want to go and fang my 438ci monaro for a bit

BBL!

With damn near 385kw AT THE WHEELS ... your beast would kill anything HSV will ever offer Dunc.

:bow:

[Danv8]

hmm all this talk of (yet another) HSV 427ci project makes me want to go and fang my 438ci monaro for a bit

BBL!

Lucky C (Dan keep it nice now) ! :)

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

fark me if that's all true. :smilesandbanana:
lets hope so:xmas:

[clubbie]

Might also be two new colours available come Sydney showtime!!!

Clubbie

[teamkiwi]

Might also be two new colours available come Sydney showtime!!!

Clubbie

Crunch Yellow and Ka Pow im guessing? Atomic Green even? How close am I?

Would like to see the Green that was on the SSV that Hatzi got a photo of.

[CV860L]

Crunch Yellow and Ka Pow im guessing? Atomic Green even? How close am I?

Would like to see the Green that was on the SSV that Hatzi got a photo of.

They're the 2 colours I was thinking of as well.
I don't mind that crunch yellow..........That peppermint VE that Hatzi caught may take a bit of getting used to though.

[iloveholden]

I hope all of this rumor is true. I would love to see one in the flesh, though cant go to the Sydney motor show!!! I will have to wait till next year for Perth Motor Show in April.

This GTS 427, if true, will be a true Holden/HSV weapon, which is GOOD, though not for the cops haha.

[Ghosn]

More Info here. Most of which makes sense.

http://editorial.carsales.com.au/car-review/2723102.aspx

[VE Turbo]

That article is funny when it says that HSV won't offer supercharging to bring up power.
The funny thing is that a blower is an option on the HSV built VXR8 that the Poms are getting.

Now about this HSV GTS-R, I was at Zupps Holden Dealership at Mt Gravatt Bris the other day. There was a Senator parked there with the number plate,
7 LITRE.
Another thing about this Dealer, they will get done to a new car whatever you want, Exhaust mods, right up to superchargers, and still cover it under new car warranty.
My kind of dealership ;-)

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

That article is funny when it says that HSV won't offer supercharging to bring up power.
The funny thing is that a blower is an option on the HSV built VXR8 that the Poms are getting.

Now about this HSV GTS-R, I was at Zupps Holden Dealership at Mt Gravatt Bris the other day. There was a Senator parked there with the number plate,
7 LITRE.
Another thing about this Dealer, they will get done to a new car whatever you want, Exhaust mods, right up to superchargers, and still cover it under new car warranty.
My kind of dealership ;-)

they are takeing dep on new maloo for oct del to

[korrupt]

That article is funny when it says that HSV won't offer supercharging to bring up power.
The funny thing is that a blower is an option on the HSV built VXR8 that the Poms are getting.

What about the end of the article where they speculate that there will be a supercharged version announced next year. Now that is funny...

And what price a 400kW HSV supercharged model in the $80K region to take the shine off Ford's Orion XR range at the Melbourne Motor Show in March?

[Pickles]

I was one of the first to predict a 427 coupe!!--right up to the end I was convinced it would happen--I was wrong.
There is NO DOUBT in my mind that the LS7 engine will EVENTUALLY make its way into a Commodore. The question, ( & the original subject of this thread), is WHEN. This question is really, "how long is a piece of string?", because we can all predict it's going to happen, & we will all therefore all be correct!-But the real question is "WHEN".
I say it will NOT be at the Sydney Motor Show. I reckon it's a chance for late 2008, but no later than mid 2009. That's my prediction anyway!
And, as I've said before, I don't believe HSV's new M.D. would risk his credibility in front of some VERY serious HSV players.
Cheers, Pickles.

[TLX]

I was one of the first to predict a 427 coupe!!--right up to the end I was convinced it would happen--I was wrong.
There is NO DOUBT in my mind that the LS7 engine will EVENTUALLY make its way into a Commodore. The question, ( & the original subject of this thread), is WHEN. This question is really, "how long is a piece of string?", because we can all predict it's going to happen, & we will all therefore all be correct!-But the real question is "WHEN".
I say it will NOT be at the Sydney Motor Show. I reckon it's a chance for late 2008, but no later than mid 2009. That's my prediction anyway!
And, as I've said before, I don't believe HSV's new M.D. would risk his credibility in front of some VERY serious HSV players.
Cheers, Pickles.


Hope so Pickles....

deposit payed and waiting game begins..............

Tully:)

[iloveholden]

Hope so Pickles....

deposit payed and waiting game begins..............

Tully:)

Good luck to you mate. I hope ours dreams are true

[BadMac]

Another article this time from Carpoint.


HSV's supercar could now debut next year - as part of an upgraded anniversary range


HSV's plans for an exclusive GTS-R 427 are firming up with news that the specialist car maker will also launch a new range of models timed to coincide with its 20th Anniversary and Holden's VE 'series II' upgrade around July next year.

While the so-called GTS-R 427 will feature a version of the Corvette Z06's exotic dry-sumped 7.0-litre Le Mans-ready V8, a wider HSV range will debut with some set to receive new, higher performance engines.

These new engines will deliver a substantial lift in power over the current 307kW LS2-engined 6.0-litre models. The new models will form the backbone of the maker's 20th Anniversary range.

Though a GTS-R 427 is tipped to appear at October's Sydney Motor Show to kick off HSV's 20th Anniversary celebrations, it is believed customer deliveries will commence around July-August 2008 so they can coincide with the revised HSV range .............

Go here for the rest of the article and some more information about the other cars which may be coming.
http://www.carpoint.com.au/car-review/2724465.aspx

And I didn't know this.

The decision to eliminate the base ClubSport from the current E-series range and rebadge it as the ClubSport R8 was made at the very last minute. It was not a decision universally-supported by owners and certain HSV insiders when the model intended to be the ClubSport R8 was also rebadged at the last minute as the GTS.

[mustanger]

I know for a fact that Holden is looking at the LS3 325KW 6.2 litre and are playing around with a supercharged version of the same engine.

I think it is for the Camaro but dont be surprised if it goes into a HSV...Cheers John

[korrupt]

Sounds like the GTS is about to be changed too ...

The latest GTS-R 427 strategy creates too big a gap over the current GTS so it is believed that the GTS is set to return to its earlier status as a special model with a special engine mid-way in performance between ClubSport and GTS-R 427.

and

There would be no point in introducing the GTS-R 427 as an overpriced replacement for what was supposed to have been the GTS all along. Instead, the GTS-R 427 allows the company to add a third tier to its SWB range, starting with an affordable ClubSport range, a more special GTS performance model and a highly exclusive GTS-R race-bred model.

Wonder how much of that article is true. Should make for some interesting times next July...

[clubbie]

Crunch Yellow and Ka Pow im guessing? Atomic Green even? How close am I?

Would like to see the Green that was on the SSV that Hatzi got a photo of.

Bingo (Yellow) and bingo(ish) Rallye type green.

Clubbie

[VE Turbo]

What about the end of the article where they speculate that there will be a supercharged version announced next year. Now that is funny...

Yeah, the guy was having a bit of a dribble wasn't he.

I know for a fact that Holden is looking at the LS3 325KW 6.2 litre and are playing around with a supercharged version of the same engine.

I think it is for the Camaro but dont be surprised if it goes into a HSV...Cheers John

That motor is in the new Caddy CTS or what ever it is.
Sure I read somewhere that Holden are bringing some of them over here.

[WIKED]

I am paying the $5K deposit tommorrow just in case it does become a reality in 2008/2009.

If they are only making 100-150 and 10 percent do indeed go across the Tasman then you have to get get in quick if you want one.

[CharlieDontSurf]

Based on Holden/HSV form. I'm tipping that if they get 200 deposits they will make at least 200 of them and they will still be exclusive. Rememebr how hard the VL group A;'s were to offload after the 500 for homologation were built? And look at the prices now.And build enough demand through the drip fed info through various sources we're all salivating over now. HSV dont get any money from the resale 20 years on but theb reputation will reap the rewards

[Swordie]

The GST-R sounds like a Holden Man's fantasy.

[Ghosn]

The GST-R sounds like a Holden Man's fantasy.

More like John Howard's Fantasy.

[Greg 106]

More like John Howard's Fantasy.

:rofl: haha very nice

Can I ask what the people who are hoping to get a GTS-R intend on doing with it? i.e. will it be driven or locked away in a garage?

Personally, if I bought one, there is no way that I couldn't drive it all the time... You only live once!

[hsv-105]

:rofl: haha very nice

Can I ask what the people who are hoping to get a GTS-R intend on doing with it? i.e. will it be driven or locked away in a garage?

Personally, if I bought one, there is no way that I couldn't drive it all the time... You only live once!

Strip it ,Cage it and RACE IT !!!!

[iloveholden]

If i had one, i would use it as a weekend supercar haha. Drive the norm holden/hsv during the week then why not go racing on weekends haha

[Street_Tuna]

Strip it ,Cage it and RACE IT !!!!

Thats whats happening to mine when it comes....maybe two small mods first.....straight up :eyes:

[Knight Phlier]

If they bring out the 7L GTS then it would make more sense financially to build 500+ of them rather than 100+ and risk the situation that they were in with the 427 Monaro. Sure there is more credibility in building only 50 or 100 of a particular model but i think if they do that they are going to shoot themselves in the foot again on this and also building 500 is still an 'exclusive' model. I don't know about the german marques such as BMW / Merc / Audi but I don't think they are likely to build an 'exclusive' car with only 50 or 100 built cause financially your going to burn a hole in your pocket both the manufacturer and consumer...

Having said this - Good on HSV for being adventurous and I certainly will wait until their new models are released before upgrading - can't wait!

[offshore]

I really think they should just forget about the GTS-R idea and just engineer the standard GTS with the LS7 and be done with it.

At the moment the GTS really isnt that much different from the R8 they could even give the R8 the magnetic ride susp and just have the LS7 and a few other mods in the GTS. And just like Porsche with the GT3 have a no cost option striped out light weight model without all the luxury etc etc for those that just want a track day car or whatever.

[Sonic_Brew]

Strip it ,Cage it and RACE IT !!!!

BLASPHEMY!!!


...until I see it, then I will want it.

[Funky_Munky]

Dont know if it has already been mentioned but the GTS-R will be revealed in October in the motor show.

As everyone already knows it will be coming equipped with LS7 which will be belting out 385kw/640Nm. Expectd times - 0-100km/h in 4.7 seconds and the 0-400m dash to take a paltry 12.6 seconds.

The price: $100,000. Not too shabby me thinks.

[Avalanche]

Unfortunately, any hsv that we own will be getting its fair share of use. i think it would be hard for mrs avalanche to resist a gtsr . but with a fpv terri getting released i cant see hsv letting them take the awd limelight all on their own. So it could be a tough choice in the near future.

[korrupt]

Dont know if it has already been mentioned but the GTS-R will be revealed in October in the motor show.

As everyone already knows it will be coming equipped with LS7 which will be belting out 385kw/640Nm. Expectd times - 0-100km/h in 4.7 seconds and the 0-400m dash to take a paltry 12.6 seconds.

The price: $100,000. Not too shabby me thinks.
Got an official source for this or just more rumours?

[Ghosn]

Got an official source for this or just more rumours?

He just took that off the articles already posted so just take it with a grain of salt.

[BLACK 346]

Isn't this car in the latest motor/wheels mag? Not sure which one
just had a quick glimpse whilst at the airport yesterday. Mentioned
a price tag in the vicinity of 130k in the article. Knew I should have
bought the mag, but was in a hurry and just had a quick look.

[Funky_Munky]

Got an official source for this or just more rumours?

Woops. Forgot to mention in my original post - its from the latest issue of Wheels Magazine.

He just took that off the articles already posted so just take it with a grain of salt.

As above.

Isn't this car in the latest motor/wheels mag? Not sure which one
just had a quick glimpse whilst at the airport yesterday. Mentioned
a price tag in the vicinity of 130k in the article. Knew I should have
bought the mag, but was in a hurry and just had a quick look.

Yep. Its from the latest issue of Wheels mag. Im sure Motor have a story in there as well. Wheels has the most info so far.

Apparently 5 people have already put a deposit down.

[korrupt]

Apparently 5 people have already put a deposit down.

I think at least 2 people on here have said they have placed deposits.

Today's Herald Sun Carsguide has an article saying that the Sydney Motor Show will have the E Series Maloo and a 20th Anniversary special model on display. But there will also be something at the Melbourne Show next year, which will actually be built. I'll try and grab the paper again for the full details...

[VE Turbo]

Yeah, the guy was having a bit of a dribble wasn't he.



That motor is in the new Caddy CTS or what ever it is.
Sure I read somewhere that Holden are bringing some of them over here.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=121300

Here's the latest vid on the Caddy CTS-V.
Sounds like it will have the LS-7 as well, enjoy.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=121300

Here's the latest vid on the Caddy CTS-V.
Sounds like it will have the LS-7 as well, enjoy.
DOES the cadey look a bit ve ish or is is it my eyes,

[V-Car]

DOES the cadey look a bit ve ish or is is it my eyes,

The CTS has been around since the 2003 model year with slight slyling updates.
So the VE is really a bit CTS ish. I actually prefer the CTS though.
Also, the Zeta platform is based on, and a cheaper version of the Sigma platform thats under the CTS.