VE SS vs VE SSV comparo [Archive] - Australian LS1 and Holden Forums

Devil CV8

08-06-2007, 01:02 PM

Nawdy

08-06-2007, 01:39 PM

I chose an SS (mine's an A6) over an SSV as, at the time, I couldn't justify the extra fun sheckels for what amounted to (IMHO) a lot of 'nice to have' items. In hindsight, I still feel I have made the right choice.

The only extra's I went for was the tow pack, and tinted windows. The only thing I do regret is not getting side curtain air bags.

Pilbara SSV

08-06-2007, 01:48 PM

Get the SSV and stop fooling yourself!!!!!!!!!!! An SS will never be an SSV.:bow:
I drove both and the SS felt like a poverty pack compared to the SSV.
We got the sunroof,dvd,full spare,mats,head light covers,1600kg tow bar,boot liner,stripes etc for 58k drive away for an '07 model.
Just my biased opinion though. Love the car done 10000km without a single hickup (says while touching wooden desk).
Honestly though you will enjoy which ever one you get but i like the extra bling on the SSV.:smilesandbanana:

EXCESSV

08-06-2007, 01:57 PM

like others have sent it depends on what you want and if you can/want to stretch the budget.

without this turning into a shit fight of my SS is better than your SSV or vica versa its up to you

some cant see the extra money for the SSV and some just want to have the "best". i chose the SSV because i could stretch the budget and i wanted to have everything.
i know the SSV is heavier so therefore 1/4 mile times will be lower than the same modded SS but in the end i dont car about how quick my car can go down the quarter...
it is comfy and has everything i want...right decision made by ME for MY situation.

FYI: I got the SSV black with onyx interior with sunroof, sat, nav, full size spare, accessory socket in boot & matts

Danv8

08-06-2007, 02:00 PM

The V is for vavavoom!

:-)

SV805

08-06-2007, 02:18 PM

THis is a problem most of us who own a SS or SSV have been through.

I ended up going with SS with Leather. Reasons for this were below.

SSV Extras.

1. 19" Rubber (No advantage for me as I need a set of tyres every 10mths
and personally I preferred the look of the 18" so no advantage to me.)
2. Climate Control. (Yes an advantage but I don't fiddle with normal one
much anyway)
3. Leather (Optioned SS with this and side curtain air bags)
4. Upgraded stereo. (I am on the phone most of the time and SS is loud
enough for me)
5. Full color LCD Screen. (This was one thing I thought I wanted/needed so
I could have sat nav. Found out the cost of Sat Nav, the inability to put
it in the 4WD when going away so ended up hard wiring a Tom Tom in the
SS. Cheaper and more practical, so ALthough I liked the LCD screen didn't
work for me best)
The above were the main differences from memory plus a couple of cosmetic things, so Optioning Leather for me was the BEST for me and saved me $$$$ for the exhaust and tune and still have plenty left over.

Saying SS feels like a povety pack may be right if SS doesn't have leather, but if you option theh SS with Leather there would be bugger all difference in feel.

I also HATED the Voltage meter above LCD screen which the SS doesn't have.

Hope this helps. But as others have said, both are a great car and it is whats best for you.

[MET]

08-06-2007, 02:40 PM

For me I wasn't in the market for a 50K car I could only 'just' afford a low 40K price tag so normal SS it was, couldn't give a rats about leather and cosmetic changes.

I have never regreted buying the pov pack SS as it suits my budget and needs perfectly! I honestly couldn't care less about the extra's in the V I won't and haven't missed them.

That said though if it was still called a SV8 I wouldn't of bought one! LOL

It just seems the SSV owners just have a complex about their 'superior' rides :wave:

The_Senator

08-06-2007, 02:58 PM

Hmm, so if it was called the SV8 you would not buy one - and would go for the SS. So your basically buying the car for the "Image" then - or thinking that it is "superior" to the SV8? Is that not calling the kettle black? I brought my SSV NOT for anything to do with "superior" or what nots - simply because it came standard with things that i wanted in a car. As Dean has said, it suited ME and MY application. Each to their own. No wrong or right decisions. Making "broad based comments" like SSV owners thinking they have the SUPERIOR ride is, in my opinion a little unfounded and uncalled for.. I have not seen, nor read, one comment on here that puts someone down for going the SS over the SSV.

Danv8

08-06-2007, 03:06 PM

lollymanv8

08-06-2007, 03:08 PM

I'm after some feedback from owners of VE SS and VE SSV, preferably manual. Any regrets from choosing SS instead of SSV?

I'm leaning towards a SS M6 with sunroof, 1600kg towpack, leather and full size alloy which for the purpose of my employers lease is cheaper than the SSV alone over 3 years.

I reckon if your budget can stretch for an SSV then go for the V. All the blings are nice. It actually gets a special model code in the VIN whereas the SS gets the same model code as omega/sv6.

I decided early in my buying process that I don't need these:

* climate control - had many problems before with another model
* upgraded stereo system - the v8 sound track is nicer
* 19 inch wheels
* projector lights
* red/orange interior colour

So after driven both SS and SSV, the decision was quite easy: SS A6 nickel with onyx leather and certain airbags, full spare, tint, mats, wheel locks for $48k onroad which was $3k over my original budget!

The_Senator

08-06-2007, 03:24 PM

I brought an SSV, Manual.. LOVE IT.... Although the A6's are just as nice (my boss has one and we compared cars etc). A6 is seemless and the "sports shift" is rather nice (and can only get better with tuning). Why SSV - well i liked the colour screen - and it gave and EXTRA screen when i optioned in the DVD - so it was like a "bonus". I also like the upgraded Stereo that integrates well with the DVD. The sunroof is a given - well i love it but you can get it on any model.. In the end, the STANDARD leather, safety, features and sound system means I went the SSV over the SS. If my budget was lower, then I would have an SS in a heartbeat.. Same running gear - only "slightly" different interior.. In the end, it IS personal preference and budget which will say which way to go for. Both EXCELLENT cars for the money either way.

Yup I look at the SSV as closer to the Calais spec in equipment wise and having it available in a manual gearbox form.

Except Calais gets a 3 Window dash display, and the SSV the single.. :soapbox:

Danv8

08-06-2007, 03:36 PM

I brought an SSV, Manual.. LOVE IT.... Although the A6's are just as nice (my boss has one and we compared cars etc). A6 is seemless and the "sports shift" is rather nice (and can only get better with tuning). Why SSV - well i liked the colour screen - and it gave and EXTRA screen when i optioned in the DVD - so it was like a "bonus". I also like the upgraded Stereo that integrates well with the DVD. The sunroof is a given - well i love it but you can get it on any model.. In the end, the STANDARD leather, safety, features and sound system means I went the SSV over the SS. If my budget was lower, then I would have an SS in a heartbeat.. Same running gear - only "slightly" different interior.. In the end, it IS personal preference and budget which will say which way to go for. Both EXCELLENT cars for the money either way.

Except Calais gets a 3 Window dash display, and the SSV the single.. :soapbox:

Well close enough to a complete calais spec. :)

jaykay

08-06-2007, 03:59 PM

I went the SSV because I wanted the top sports model at the time. I could afford it so that's why I went there...

It depends at the end of the day if you can afford the SSV and if you want the extra items that come with the SSV. The SS is great bang for your buck and definitely a worthy performance vehicle on the road......

Either way Holden has built a winner so which ever one you decide to buy you will be on the winner too....

JK :)

ssv6spd

08-06-2007, 04:30 PM

I think the SS and SSV are both great cars.

The main reason i went for the SSV is because I love the red and black leather interior and because of all the other little extras you get. I thought it was worth spending the extra money and getting everything.

Put simply if you want a little more luxury get the SSV. If you do not care about leather, climate, the screen then the SS is great. Either way you will be happy.

Wonky

08-06-2007, 07:30 PM

Put simply if you want a little more luxury get the SSV. If you do not care about leather, climate, the screen then the SS is great. Either way you will be happy.
What he said! :yup:

With the rider that with leather comes extra airbags for safety (very important to most people) but you can option it on the SS and the SSV gets projector headlights which are better for conversion to xenon HID (a must have once you've seen/had them!).

planetdavo

08-06-2007, 07:56 PM

When the VE came out, there was a rather detailed thread on this subject, and, just as this one is heading, it's all down to personal needs and budget.
First thing I have to add. DO NOT let SSV owners tell you an SS is not a "real" SS. BOTH are SS models.
Standard SS is better "bang for your bucks" value, and possibly a better choice for those that intend to do a few changes to their car, like wheels, or to spend a fair bit extra on mods without going above the price of an SSV.
SSV is the luxury choice, and possibly better suited to people keeping it fairly stock, other than tunes or exhausts and so forth.
BOTH are an excellent choice, and don't let people convince you otherwise!

mustanger

08-06-2007, 09:51 PM

I think it comes down to price. If you are happy with an SS ,just buy one. If you can afford an SSV but cannot justify the difference,there is your answer right there. Then on the hand,if you can stretch the budget ,buy the SSV because you will not be sorry......Cheers John

Devil CV8

08-06-2007, 10:19 PM

Thanks for all the feedback, it has helped.

I don't agree with the sv8=ss as really the ss matches what the ss was prior to the ss-z with the leather and climate.

To clarify. the car I end up getting will be on an operating lease from my employer. All costs included, which means purchase price isn't a factor. also one big advantage over a novated lease is I hand the car back with no penalty if I leave the job. I like the idea of not worrying about fbt, or how much fuel or tyres I use.

SLugg

08-06-2007, 10:45 PM

mustanger

08-06-2007, 11:10 PM

SS 153KW per Tonne = performance model
SSV 151KW per Tonne = bling model

the choice is yours , i optioned the leather , sports wheel and leather knob

With those options,You better add 2 kilos to yours then........:):hide:

[MET]

09-06-2007, 12:31 AM

Hmm, so if it was called the SV8 you would not buy one

did you read the 'LOL' at the end? more of a joke, poking fun.... ah forget it.... who cares

lablube

09-06-2007, 01:03 AM

SS or SSV , like Maccbeth, to be or not to be, that is the question. We went to the Adelaide motor show and the wife went staight for the HSV Grange, so got so excited I was glad I was with her that evening.....unitl she saw the price... so we looked at the Caprice nice but not sporty enough for her and rear seats did not suit us, looked at Calais luxury but not sporty enough so we ended up buting a SSV. List your needs add your wants and compare to your budget. One mans rubbish is another mans gold, or something like that. If your happy thats all that important.

Scud

09-06-2007, 09:15 AM

I went with SS over the SSV as I believe the SS is still the SS and the SSV is a Calais spec SS (ie no more SV8).

The original SS was around the same price as the current SS, Leather was always an option.

As far as the choice, I don't like leather, not interested in climate control as it never seems to hold the temperature, and I liked the SS wheels better than the SSV. Would have liked the LCD and the HID headlights tho.

Also, I found the dealers were more negotiable on the SS than the SSV. The percentage discount I got on an SS made the SSV seem to far off in the price stakes.

spike_ss

09-06-2007, 01:47 PM

Went with SS (with leather) over the SS-V for purely financial reasons. By the time you add on dealer delivery (wot is that!!) and Stamp Duty etc, SS-V was too pricey.

Not sure what the difference will be in a few yrs when we start selling "used" VE SS or VE SS-V. Think most buyers will just want one within their budget.

Devil CV8

09-06-2007, 02:13 PM

I went with SS over the SSV as I believe the SS is still the SS and the SSV is a Calais spec SS (ie no more SV8).

this is my line of thinking as well.

HSVREDSLED

09-06-2007, 02:41 PM

SS or SSV , like Maccbeth, to be or not to be, that is the question.

Slight correction lablube....

'..to be or not to be...' was from Hamlet...not Macbeth.

gasguz

09-06-2007, 03:23 PM

It all comes down to how much folding stuff you have. I would go the SSV over the SS the same way I went with the R8 over the standard clubby back when I purchased, the SS was different as it was only sold in 1 model.

I think the SS can easily be confused with the SV6 considering they have the same wheels, all that is missing off the SV6 is the SS badges on the side (& a V8 engine of course)

But at the end of the day as long as the buyer is happy with their purchase & they feel good driving it, this is all that should matter

Wonky

09-06-2007, 03:56 PM

Would have liked the LCD and the HID headlights tho.
You mean projector headlights? The only Holden with HIDs is the Caprice, though many of us upgrade ours to HID.

bok1

09-06-2007, 04:03 PM

if you can afford the ssv then buy it if not you still have a ss commodore.

Chappy

09-06-2007, 04:08 PM

lablube

09-06-2007, 04:49 PM

Slight correction lablube....

'..to be or not to be...' was from Hamlet...not Macbeth.

That would explain why I failed engish literature in high school. Thanks for the correction

prodrive

09-06-2007, 07:23 PM

I was in the same position as you Devil CV8. The SSV is $2000 more per year on that operating lease you are using.

You need to subtract tax from that but even still you are probably paying an extra $1200 per year in real cash for the SSV vs the SS. So how much is leather, 19s, climate and a few other bits and pieces worth to you? You will never get that $1200 back as you don't own the car so it is up to you to determine how important $1200 per year is.

I decided to go with the SS. It is 99% of the car and I don't find leather any more comfortable - it just looks good. Same with the 19s - just for looks in my opinion. The lights are not HID so the upgrade to projector on SSV is minimal difference. Different rear brake lights? Means nothing to me. Alloy pedals - just bling. Steering wheel is slightly different - i can live with that. Upgraded stereo? Not important to me. The only item that had me thinking was curtain airbags but I still decided on the SS as I will never recover a cent of the $1200 per year additional cost for each year of the lease.

Ron SS

09-06-2007, 09:46 PM

I went for the SS because it doesn't have leather seats ....too slippery for me and the cloth seats are great. If the SSV has leather seats, then they must come from plastic cows. Not proper leather for my money.

The climate control bling is of no value to me. I dislike the SSV steering wheel (and Calais and HSV) because it has a sharp ridge on the rim that presses into my palm ...the SS has a high ridge too (why????) but is smaller and not as sharp. I prefer the look of the SS wheels, and especially like the lower replacement costs of the 18" tyres (do the SSV boys know that 19" tyres cost over $700 each!!)

The silly red dashtop gauges in the SSV really turn me off. To be fair, the red dash lights in both models are also silly too. Red means warning, or something has broken to me and shouldn't be used as a dash base light.

Down side of the SS is that it misses out on curtain airbags with cloth seats (leather is combined with curtain air bags as an option). Sound system in the SS is still good, but a bit light on compared to the SSV.

Headlights ...SSV and SS are both ordinary with no real gain with the more expensive SSV projector lights.

Overall, I couldn't see the extra $6000 value in the SSv, but that's only my opinion. To each his own.

ITROCS

10-06-2007, 12:59 AM

Why don't people like the red gauges and oil and amp gauges:confused:
I think they are great....Anyone agree???

Wonky

10-06-2007, 01:33 AM

Why don't people like the red gauges and oil and amp gauges:confused:
I think they are great....Anyone agree???
Not me! I (along with a lot of people) am slightly red colourblind. It just means I can't read red writing as well as other colours, not that I can't see red lights!! I have the tripmeter function set to always display the digital kmh reading as otherwise I have to take my eyes off the road a fraction too long to accurately determine my speed.

As for the oil and amp gauges they are too low resolution i.e. look like Lego blocks. If they had somehow done them the same as the SSV LCD screen they'd be much better.

SS Enforcer

10-06-2007, 04:30 AM

Not me! I (along with a lot of people) am slightly red colourblind. It just means I can't read red writing as well as other colours, not that I can't see red lights!! I have the tripmeter function set to always display the digital kmh reading as otherwise I have to take my eyes off the road a fraction too long to accurately determine my speed.

.

I do the same thing as I have exactly the same problem with the red lights. It's even worse if I am wearing sunglasses can't see a bloody thing on the dash.

I chose the SS as I couldn't see the value in the V series for me. I have had leather and can take it or leave it, I really like the black cloth seats in mine . I would like a better stereo and do like the SSV lights but not for the extra bucks.

cheers

planetdavo

10-06-2007, 08:30 AM

This thread always had the potential to be a "mine's better than yours" p!ssing contest, but I'm pleasantly surprised that it's turning out quite balanced, with good input from the SS boys to balance out the SSV boys (and girls of course).

saaz

10-06-2007, 09:20 AM

And I have learnt something factual about the differences in the cars. I suppose thats why they have two models to choose from.

Devil CV8

10-06-2007, 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=prodrive;937822]I was in the same position as you Devil CV8. The SSV is $2000 more per year on that operating lease you are using.
QUOTE]

decided on SS, M6, sunroof, leather (so I get the curtain airbags) full size alloy, 1600 towpack on a 3 year lease. still cheaper than the SSV by itself
only thing to decide is colour. Wife is pressuring for morpheus so that is probably the way I'll go....

hey, it's only 3 years........ then I hand it back and get something else....

prodrive

10-06-2007, 10:32 AM

Wife is pressuring for morpheus so that is probably the way I'll go....

Just take a good look at morpheus in person before you go for it. :) It is very much a love or hate colour. I must say I think it looks :limpy: (not that there is anything wrong with that as Seinfeld would say).

http://www.holden.com.au//images/colourandtrim/commodore/ve/image/ssv/img_MorpheousMetallic.jpg

Devil CV8

10-06-2007, 03:48 PM

Just take a good look at morpheus in person before you go for it. :) It is very much a love or hate colour. I must say I think it looks :limpy: (not that there is anything wrong with that as Seinfeld would say).

http://www.holden.com.au//images/colourandtrim/commodore/ve/image/ssv/img_MorpheousMetallic.jpgactually we've had a look at a morpheus over at belconnen, and I don't mind it. too many blacks, reds and ignitions out there so the rarer colours aren't too bad, especially when resale doesn't come into it...
need to see the other colours before I commit though, the green and the crunch?

ITROCS

11-06-2007, 07:50 AM

Fair enough with the red dash as some say they carn't see the red to well, I don't have this problem so all's well. I to thought long and hard re: SS or SSV but then I found my Demo SSV and just fell in love and as a die hard Holden man whenever a nice Holden drive's buy I admire what ever it maybe.

jescam

11-06-2007, 09:58 AM

I wonder if when the VE SS x-police cars start filtering through the auctions whether the price of the VE SS will drop more in comparison to what the SS-V would ? ........ just a thought.

I am hoping the SS-V will hold its value a little better!? :cheers:

Boom

11-06-2007, 10:37 AM

I went the SS after thinking about it for a while. Didnt want leather. LCD screen not much use as 99% of time Im the only one in it. Ditto for the climate control. The standard AC works fine for me. The only thing that I was a bit interested in were the projector headlights. But hey, the standard lights are pretty damn good. So in the end I got the bits I wanted in the SS and am very happy with what I have.

Marco

12-06-2007, 08:25 PM

Piffs

12-06-2007, 08:47 PM

I was originally looking at the SS, but for me to upgrade to the SSV worked out to be only $2000 more since the SS i wanted would have had to have been ordered in, and the dealer had a Phantom SSV in stock with the black and red leather interior.

The SS i was looking at buying was going to have the leather option, but i wanted black and red. The SS didnt come with the different colour option. I also liked the screen, the headlamps, the extra airbags and the rims too. So for the extra $2000 i thought that it was money well spent.

I optioned the upgraded alarm. In total the SSV cost me $50'050 and the SS would have been $48'000.

EDIT: I also drove straight from dealer to audio installer, got all the stock speakers removed and replaces with quality Focal Polyglass gear. Sounds 10000000000000000X better.

Devil CV8

12-06-2007, 09:31 PM

I don't think you'll regret going for the SS over the SS V - I made the same call in January and don't regret it. The only thing from the SS V that might have been nice would be the better sound system, if only because the SS sound system distorts a fair bit at higher volumes and is a bit lacking in bass. Probably not a bad thing though, as it will help me to stop ruining my hearing :)

optioned up the SS will cost me a reasonable price (still cheaper than the SSV alone) annually which I couldn't match on a novated lease through DPOA so the operating lease is the way to go, and I don't believe I'll have any trouble spending more than that a year on consumables...

Mojo

12-06-2007, 11:17 PM

Started out looking at the SS and thinking I couldn't see the extra 6k in the SSV - Wrong !

Somehow ended up with the SSV and so glad I did. with the benefit of hindsight I would have paid another 10k to have the SSV spec, it's such a beautiful piece of work... and the stereo - haven't got that sucker past 50% yet before I start feeling like a doof doof freak...

All good though whatevr your budget

SLugg

12-06-2007, 11:45 PM

I don't think you'll regret going for the SS over the SS V - I made the same call in January and don't regret it. The only thing from the SS V that might have been nice would be the better sound system, if only because the SS sound system distorts a fair bit at higher volumes and is a bit lacking in bass. Probably not a bad thing though, as it will help me to stop ruining my hearing :)

have you turned off the SDV and DL and EQ and you can add bass and treble to the sound to make it heaps better ,

i optioned the leather and flat bottom steering wheel (which is awesome fat) and and leather knob just to make it a bit diff

Wonky

13-06-2007, 01:14 AM

Somehow ended up with the SSV and so glad I did. with the benefit of hindsight I would have paid another 10k to have the SSV spec, it's such a beautiful piece of work... and the stereo - haven't got that sucker past 50% yet before I start feeling like a doof doof freak...
I assume from that that you are one of the people who've worked out to turn the Gain knob up on the amp in the boot? Looks like factory default is to set it right down on minimum....... :(

For those who weren't aware of that see http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=73500 (Thanks brocke8!!) Seems like there's a lot of potential to improve on the sound as it normally comes from the factory.

I went to have mine turned up but it was already! :eek: I know the guy who did pre-delivery on my car and he used to fit car audio stuff so obviously did it for me already. :thumbsup:

chops

13-06-2007, 10:01 AM

I guess the advantage of the operating lease is that you don't have to worry about selling the car yourself afterwards, which is where I think Morpheous might suffer a little compared to other colours. As others have mentioned, you either love it ir hate it, so in the second hand market that colour might be harder to move.

Either way, enjoy the new car. After driving a VE, my VY felt "loose" in comparison.

Mojo

13-06-2007, 04:33 PM

I assume from that that you are one of the people who've worked out to turn the Gain knob up on the amp in the boot? Looks like factory default is to set it right down on minimum....... :(

For those who weren't aware of that see http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=73500 (Thanks brocke8!!) Seems like there's a lot of potential to improve on the sound as it normally comes from the factory.

I went to have mine turned up but it was already! :eek: I know the guy who did pre-delivery on my car and he used to fit car audio stuff so obviously did it for me already. :thumbsup:

Hi Wonk

Nah mate haven't got around to doing that. Was planning to but it's got more than enough punch for my liking - the car starts rattling at less than 50% vol with a bit of Zep cranked up - sound is clear as - no distortion whatsoever.
Maybe they're shipping them with the gain turned up a bit more now - Havnt even got around to looking to see what it's set at.

Anyway like other's have said both SS and SSV's are beautiful beasts.

Wonky

13-06-2007, 06:57 PM

Hi Wonk

Nah mate haven't got around to doing that. Was planning to but it's got more than enough punch for my liking - the car starts rattling at less than 50% vol with a bit of Zep cranked up - sound is clear as - no distortion whatsoever.
Maybe they're shipping them with the gain turned up a bit more now - Havnt even got around to looking to see what it's set at.

Anyway like other's have said both SS and SSV's are beautiful beasts.
Hmmm, doubt that it would have that much punch if the gain was down near 0 so maybe they are setting them higher at the factory now - hopefully! Seems a waste to have the amp there and then set it at 0 gain otherwise........

701let

03-11-2007, 05:26 PM

Gday mate, I went the ssv because all the extras it has over the ss is exactly what i wanted. Im not changing wheels, stereos, etc and i didnt buy it just for its performance. I thought about it long and hard as well, but i know that if I had bought an SS then i would have been disappointed.

Having said that I would have bought a clubby if i could have afforded that. All are awesome cars anyways....

ps i HATE the volt and battery meter!!!!!!!

RyanIAm

03-11-2007, 06:35 PM

Does anyone know if the optioned leather in the SS Ute includes curtain airbags?

SLugg

04-11-2007, 02:28 PM

yes all leather upgrades include curtian air bags , but the best upgrade is the fat steering wheel , feels heaps better than the std ss or ssv one

Marco

04-11-2007, 04:51 PM

No, the Ute doesn't have curtain airbags at all - it doesn't even have side airbags! (Not good enough IMHO...)

Danv8

04-11-2007, 05:38 PM

No, the Ute doesn't have curtain airbags at all - it doesn't even have side airbags! (Not good enough IMHO...)

There is not real much room to fit curtain airbags in the ute.
But I can't remember any utes that have been fitted either curtain or side airbags.
Although its probably the safest ute you can currently buy at the moment although I bet they are finding a way to include such safety items though in the next series,

Brandonsdad

04-11-2007, 05:57 PM

They both drive the same and handle the same and have the same amount of power, you just miss out on a few extra creature comforts. Both good though.

uteme

04-11-2007, 08:49 PM

There is not real much room to fit curtain airbags in the ute.
But I can't remember any utes that have been fitted either curtain or side airbags.
Although its probably the safest ute you can currently buy at the moment although I bet they are finding a way to include such safety items though in the next series,

The VE Maloo has them

grantcoll

23-01-2008, 07:54 PM

I have the SS, and I would say the steering wheel in the SSV is much better. Possibly you could order an SS with the SSV wheel

Teal

23-01-2008, 08:09 PM

I was looking at the SS to start with, but I wanted some of the V options, like the lights the 19"s and the centre console. In the end it was better to just go the V option. Very happy with what I got, besides the f**kn space saver tyre, arggg I remeber seeing on of those in a RX7 lol.

VE man

23-01-2008, 08:24 PM

SSJeff

23-01-2008, 08:28 PM

My opinion is if i was going to fork an extra 10 g on an ssv over an ss i might aswell go the whole hog and but a clubsport for an extra 10 g over the ssv,for the extras you get in a ssv i cant see the value over the ss,tho the extra you get for 10 over the ssv to the hsv there is plenty of value.
Sorry for the jibberish but i hope someone can see my point lol

btw no offense to any ssv owners they are nice but just not good value for me.

Devil CV8

23-01-2008, 09:02 PM

Go the SSV mate. You wont regret it.

Just my opinion, of course I have an SSV so I'm biased!!

I didnt like the SS wheels or light package.

I got a manual but am regretting it a bit, very klunky and notchy, sometimes hard to get reverse, shitty weak clutch etc
this is an old thread. I ended up with the SSV, M6, Morpheous with full size spare and 1600kg towpack.

Picked it up on november 15 and just under 12000km so far.

agree with the clutch, doesn't like any slip at all before the smell starts, but handled towing a VK on a car trailer

redvxr8clubby

23-01-2008, 09:15 PM

Don't know if the leather is any better quality, but when you look at VX's with leather 5 or 6 years down the track, the leather just looks very old. I am not keen on leather mainly for this reason (not just a holden problem). Must admit it looks good when new. So for me it would be SS - would be good if you could option up to the big screen LCD stereo, like premium sound in a Falcon XR. If the price difference for an SSV was only $2000 though, as per one post, that's a bargain - go the SSV.

Wonky

23-01-2008, 09:50 PM

I have the SS, and I would say the steering wheel in the SSV is much better. Possibly you could order an SS with the SSV wheel
They come up on eBay from time to time - probably people like me who upgraded from the SSV one to the HSVi one (bought independently). Mine is brand new as I had the HSVi one fitted pre-delivery but when I got down to $180 or so for it and still couldn't sell it I gave up and just kept it. Will put it back on if/when I come to sell the car.

hithere

09-03-2008, 10:01 AM

I optioned the leather and flat bottom steering wheel (which is awesome fat) and and leather knob just to make it a bit diff

Do you have a picture of the flat bottom steering wheel?

SLugg

09-03-2008, 03:05 PM

Go the SSV mate. You wont regret it.

Just my opinion, of course I have an SSV so I'm biased!!

I didnt like the SS wheels or light package.

I got a manual but am regretting it a bit, very klunky and notchy, sometimes hard to get reverse, shitty weak clutch etc

You could have optioned the 19" wheels , the lights work fine unless you drive around at night over 250KPH , the gearbox is awesome if you have trouble with reverse sit closer to the wheel and make sure the clutch is pushed all the way in or slip it into first then reverse mines a sweet as , box if fine after a few k's and the clutch is ok as well , sounds like some driver education needed. :1peek:

Ill get a photo of the wheel and post it up asap

Wonky

09-03-2008, 09:19 PM

Do you have a picture of the flat bottom steering wheel?

My original SSV steering wheel.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/DSCN2981.jpg

Also one of the optional HSVi I have one from someone else's car that I "borrowed" (thanks Fab :)) in order to sell a second one I bought. I have one on my car and love it - best steering wheel I've ever had! :yup:

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/Misc/HSViwheelandknob.jpg

hithere

09-03-2008, 09:26 PM

My original SSV steering wheel.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/DSCN2981.jpg

Also one of the optional HSVi I have one from someone else's car that I "borrowed" (thanks Fab :)) in order to sell a second one I bought. I have one on my car and love it - best steering wheel I've ever had! :yup:

Thanks Wonky,

So the thickness of the wheel is bigger than standard SSV?

Wonky

09-03-2008, 09:37 PM

Q8SS08MT

15-03-2008, 04:05 AM

Hi guys,

In my opinion i would go for the SS-V for sure ..

I personally have a SS ( we do not have the SS-V in the middle east ) and its been a pain turning my car into a SS-V.

I changed all the following :

- Steering Wheel with red inserts
- Gear knob with red inserts
- Flipkey ( love it )
- Head and Tail Lights
- Dash inserts
- Mine originally had Chevy badges and emblems ( so i changed all of those )
- Holden Airbag instead of the chevy one ( on steering wheel )
- Didnt get the SS-V rims but i got 20" aftermarkets
- SS-V Dials
- Had the interior made .. turned out perfect :) with red inserts on doors

And working on getting the last thing that everyone that has a SS must want!

The climate control and LCD color screen!!!!! ( anyone know how and where? ) PM please :)

So if you want to get a car id go for the SS-V unless you want to get the SS then look at the SS-V and want it so bad :p

Low on budget ? then save up for a while and go for the SS-V :) best of luck to you mate .

hithere

18-03-2008, 10:50 PM

Yep, the HSVi one is noticeably thicker than the SSV one. I never drove with the SSV one as had my HSVi one fitted before I picked the car up but from memory the HSVi one has nicer scalloping just above the 9 and 3 o'clock positions to let you really grip it if required. From memory the standard SSV one has it but not as pronounced.

If you like tomorrow I'll try to get some comparative measurements for you.

I decided that my options were long enough so I didn't get it. Thanks for your offer but!

- Holden Airbag instead of the chevy one ( on steering wheel )

You are truly dedicated! I am amazed!!

"What else is different between SS vs SS-V?"

...let's see... like others have already mentioned, SS-V gets:

- Leather seats with curtain air bags
- Duel Climate with bigger screen
- 19" SS-V wheels & tyres
- Upgraded stereo (7 speakers 80W vs 11 speakers 230W + sub)
- Steering Wheel
- Flipkeys (comes with one or two depending on what Holden feels like at the time)
- Projector Head lights (but not HID)
- Clear Tail Lights
- Colour coded Dash (redhot or ignition)
- Colour coded Instrument dials (speedo & tacho)
- Bluetooth for mobile phone
- Alloy faced padels

I am not sure if most non-SS or SS-V owners can tell the difference between the two. I guess, if you see the value in these things, go for it. If not, go the SS way.