Eastern Creek 09/05/07

[seldo]

Today's practise times:
2007 V8 Supercar Championship Series - Round 5
EASTERN CREEK INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY

V8 SUPERCARS - Practice



Practice P8 108 Mins Scheduled Start 14:52 Page 1 Issue 1 SEC09CStart Sat Jun 09 14:52Elapsed Time 01:48:00__________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____________________________________
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Cap CL Laps Fastest...Lap Gap
1 888 Team Vodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BF 5000 32 22 1:38.6954*
2 16 Toll HSV Dealer Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 5000 23 19 1:39.6637 0:00.9683
3 4 Jeld-Wen Motorsport James Courtney Ford Falcon BF 5000 26 20 1:39.8073 0:01.1119
4 18 Jim Beam Racing Will Davison Ford Falcon BF 5000 36 22 1:39.8401 0:01.1447
5 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 29 20 1:40.1746 0:01.4792
6 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon BF 5000 35 23 1:40.2780 0:01.5826
7 3 Tasman Motorsport Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 5000 28 25 1:40.2978 0:01.6024
8 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BF 5000 27 21 1:40.5566 0:01.8612
9 51 Tasman Motorsport Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 5000 20 14 1:40.6403 0:01.9449
10 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 5000 30 18 1:40.7800 0:02.0846
11 88 Team Vodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon BF 5000 25 16 1:40.9657 0:02.2703
12 1 Toll HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 5000 26 14 1:41.8360 0:03.1406
13 9 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BF 5000 33 18 1:41.8629 0:03.167514
14 Team BOC Simon Wills Ford Falcon BF 5000 19 15 1:42.3706 0:03.6752
15 55 Autobarn Racing Steve Owen Holden Commodore VZ 5000 36 24 1:42.9527 0:04.2573
16 50 Supercheap Auto Racing Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VZ 5000 25 16 1:43.6667 0:04.9713
17 10 WPS Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BF 5000 27 27 1:44.1744 0:05.4790
18 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BF 5000 34 20 1:44.4659 0:05.7705
19 8 WPS Racing Max Wilson Ford Falcon BF 5000 31 31 1:44.5484 0:05.8530
20 20 Supercheap Auto Racing Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 5000 21 17 1:44.6251 0:05.9297
21 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VE 5000 32 32 1:44.6786 0:05.9832
22 33 Valvoline Cummins Race Team Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VZ 5000 36 36 1:44.7393 0:06.0439
23 11 Jack Daniel's Racing Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE 5000 24 22 1:44.7908 0:06.0954
24 67 Team Sirromet Wines Paul Morris Holden Commodore VE 5000 33 18 1:44.8949 0:06.1995
25 111 Glenfords Racing John Bowe Ford Falcon BF 5000 35 35 1:46.5861 0:07.8907
26 34 Valvoline Cummins Race Team Dean Canto Holden Commodore VE 5000 30 16 1:47.2591 0:08.5637
27 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Shane Price Holden Commodore VE 5000 24 23 1:47.3821 0:08.6867
28 12 Team BOC Andrew Jones Ford Falcon BF 5000 25 20 1:49.3210 0:10.6256
29 26 IRWIN Racing Alan Gurr Ford Falcon BF 5000 29 15 1:50.2318 0:11.5364
30 39 Team Sirromet Wines Fabian Coulthard Holden Commodore VZ 5000 17 4 1:55.6923 0:16.9969
Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 143kph, 105% Of First 1 Is 1:43.6302Current Practice Record Is 1:30.8955 Set On 28/04/2001 By Marcos Ambrose In A Ford Falcon AU
R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time______________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________________________________Issue# 1 - Printed Sat Jun 9 17:36:45 2007 Timing System By NATSOFT (03)63342353 www.natsoft.com.au/results (http://www.natsoft.com.au/results) & Dorian DATA-1 Timing by V8 Supercars & NSW Timing Team, L Drayton Chief

[Blown Monaro]

Track conditions pretty bad, water running across turn 12 and mud carried onto the racing line so evryone just tip toeing around, Skaifey in P21 :confused:

Ute race was a good one.

Brad Jones needs to tone down the F##d bias :bawl: if he's going to make a good commentator.

Go Garth :smilesandbanana:

[kart_racer]

HRT Front row....haven't seen that for a while. Back to the good days!

Top 10 Qualifying

Todd Kelly
Mark Skaife
Rick Kelly
Jamie Whincup
Steven Richards
Garth Tander
Jason Bright
Will Davison
James Courtney
Jason Richards

After being fastest in the wet yesterday, Craig Lowndes will start from 16th place.

[Carby650]

Top 10 Qualifying

Todd Kelly
Mark Skaife
Rick Kelly
Jamie Whincup
Steven Richards
Garth Tander
Jason Bright
Will Davison
James Courtney
Jason Richards


That would be the lowest GT has qualified to date this season.
Such a great driver however he will be in front in no time at all.
GO GT !!

[SKAIFEY]

What a great race. Bumper to bumper. Skaifey takes out race 1 and was out in front for the whole race. Brand new car, first race in it and was setting awesome lap times. What more can I say. HRT have the complete package. :woohoo::woohoo:

Dario

[fatas]

please change your user name to wanabe skaife as no one can be him but i love your support :bow::)

[JT]

top race.Lowndes must be spewing his teamate is out performing him so far this year

[SKAIFEY]

please change your user name to wanabe skaife as no one can be him but i love your support :bow::)

How about you add another s to your username... Why do you think I have that username. Maybe because im a HRT member and he is my favourite driver. Im sorry I forgot to get your written approval :flipoff::flipoff:

[Carby650]

Groovers...It wasn't a public holiday here in WA today and therefore I didn't get to see the first race.
Can anybody advise what happened to GT. Started 5th and finished 15th !!
He dropped 23 points to Rick this weekend.

[kart_racer]

GT burnt his clutch on the start. They held the cars for a long time at max. revs before letting them go...

He got back up to 15th in race 2. He got to 5th in race 3, courtesy of Jamie Whincup being excluded post race. No info on the reason for the penalty yet...

That makes the round results

Skaife
T. Kelly
R.Kelly

Great day for Holden!!!

[Carby650]

GT burnt his clutch on the start. They held the cars for a long time at max. revs before letting them go...

He got back up to 15th in race 2. He got to 5th in race 3, courtesy of Jamie Whincup being excluded post race. No info on the reason for the penalty yet...

That makes the round results

Skaife
T. Kelly
R.Kelly

Great day for Holden!!!

Cheers for that mate.
I just get this feeling that this year is his best chance to take out the championship and things like that happening to him do not help one bit.
Oh well..... off to Darwin we all go....
cheers
Carby650

[IH8japauto]

Congrats Skaifey....and well done HRT too.
Does anyone know if Todd Kelly was running a new car this weekend too?

[Carby650]

From the ABC website.

"Ford's Jamie Whincup had finished third but was later disqualified from race three after stewards found he had used incorrect brake rotors.

Rick Kelly, the series leader, was promoted to third place, while Whincup fell to fifth."

[IH8japauto]

From the ABC website.

"Ford's Jamie Whincup had finished third but was later disqualified from race three after stewards found he had used incorrect brake rotors.

Rick Kelly, the series leader, was promoted to third place, while Whincup fell to fifth."

I feel sorry for Rick Kelly .... He has been very successful but I think it is the third time now that he has made it to a 1-3 position and not actually enjoyed standing on the podium after it .

[goofafidamedes]

How on earth do you use "incorrect brake rotors?"

Wouldn't you only have the brake rotors of the control type in your possession? WTF?

[ratty05]

How on earth do you use "incorrect brake rotors?"

Wouldn't you only have the brake rotors of the control type in your possession? WTF?


Exactly!!! V8 site says team admitted the brach when found.....oh you mean those rotors....no sir, they only went on for the third race, we just happen to have them lying around and someone put them on by mistake....Typical fraud teams!

[IH8japauto]

Yeah it's something they will find hard to explain to the public. It is not exactly one of those things where you could make a slight measurement error and be in breach of the rules ie - a thou or 2 over in the cylinder bore measurements and it is slightly over the 5.0 Litre mark for instance.
IMO they can't say that the stewards , TEGA or whoever were picking on them over almost nothing here.

[Mikhael]

How on earth do you use "incorrect brake rotors?"

Wouldn't you only have the brake rotors of the control type in your possession? WTF?

I agree, something is not right here.

If they have done this intentionally, (and what else would it be?) then Whincup should have been heavily penalised.

I heard he was only relagated from 2nd to 5th in the last race, he sound have been disqualified instead !!!! :vpo:

[IH8japauto]

I agree, something is not right here.

If they have done this intentionally, (and what else would it be?) then Whincup should have been heavily penalised.

I heard he was only relagated from 2nd to 5th in the last race, he sound have been disqualified instead !!!! :vpo:

I think he was stripped of his race 3 points wasn't he ? Which took him to 5th for the weekend. I agree that he probably was using the wrong rotors all weekend and disqualifying him would be appropriate IMO. What is being said on the Ford Forums ??? ( I don't go there )

[pagey]

Wait for the full story before getting too excited

That being that while they were running the wrong rotors.. they were last years model.. heavier and no advantage. Still someone stuffed up - and rules is rules.


How on earth do you use "incorrect brake rotors?"

Wouldn't you only have the brake rotors of the control type in your possession? WTF?

888 manufacture rotors for sale to other teams etc..

[mgygto]

Wait for the full story before getting too excited

That being that while they were running the wrong rotors.. they were last years model.. heavier and no advantage.




you're not serious are you??? every team in Pit Lane would prefer to run last years package over this years based on how this years are wearing .....

[goofafidamedes]

Wait for the full story before getting too excited

That being that while they were running the wrong rotors.. they were last years model.. heavier and no advantage. Still someone stuffed up - and rules is rules.

888 manufacture rotors for sale to other teams etc..

Do you mean other V8 teams or other race teams full stop? eg. Improved Production or other classes like that?

I feel sorry for whoever did make the mistake - I wonder what markings or designations the control type rotor carries compared to last years.

[pagey]

you're not serious are you??? every team in Pit Lane would prefer to run last years package over this years based on how this years are wearing .....

yes i am serious.

[mgygto]

yes i am serious.

then clearly you've misunderstood the difference between what was running on Car 88 this weekend and the current control rotors and the difference in braking power over the course of a race and a weekend. This years control package was aimed at reducing the expenditure ( they are cheaper ) but as all of the front runners are aware its proven to be a false economy as they are using more of them because they are wearing faster than last years control rotors .... in other words last years perform better for longer , whether thats an advantage over a sprint race at a track like EC (which is harder on tyres than brakes ) then only the team insiders would know. Either way 88 have been stupid on this one.

[pagey]

Thank you for your information. I will try to be better informed in future.

[james2]

Cheers for that mate.
I just get this feeling that this year is his best chance to take out the championship and things like that happening to him do not help one bit.
Oh well..... off to Darwin we all go....
cheers
Carby650Are you going to Darwin?

[mgygto]

Thank you for your information. I will try to be better informed in future. .... but i think we can both agree that for a race like EC there was no benefit to the car for that distance ......

[hoon69]

Exactly!!! V8 site says team admitted the brach when found.....oh you mean those rotors....no sir, they only went on for the third race, we just happen to have them lying around and someone put them on by mistake....Typical fraud teams!
typical bogan response too whilst your on the subject,doyou really wanna open a can of worms

try those years LPR GM etc got caught with "illegal" parts on theres cars?

was a mistake for 888 racing to F### up a good weekend fo them but they did perform well regardless,and well done to skaife
he actually finished a round without wrecking etc and now tops brocky for most round wins.


Lowndes done well to hold his composure he had TWR blocking him left n right and never once bumped em outta the way,HSVDT should take note ;) :flipoff:


I think he was stripped of his race 3 points wasn't he ? Which took him to 5th for the weekend. I agree that he probably was using the wrong rotors all weekend and disqualifying him would be appropriate IMO. What is being said on the Ford Forums ??? ( I don't go there )


stuff like one of your own:

race 3 especially was a good race, good to see 2 holden and 2 fords in the top 4. might put paid to the parity crap.

don't try and tell me what I am or am not trying to do.

to have the wrong rotors at the track where they could be used is absolutely ridiculous. Are rotors changed after every race, or every round? the answer to this question points to where the problem is, back at the workshop where a stock of the old rotors could still be on the shelf and a stuff up occurs (this then means an illegal car was presented and even scrutineering missed it) or were they changed at the track between the races, in which case wtf were old rotors doing in the transporter....
either way it's a mistake that a professional team shouldn't make.

and another one


If it was a Holden Team that did it we would all be crying Cheat.......

and i intend to agree with this qoute


Go figure.. Why the hell wiould team 888 put another rotor brand on the car? Possibly old stock getting mixed up with the newer ones?

[6LtrLimo]

maybe some forum users would be surprised to know that someone truly "in the know" visits these forums....


then only the team insiders would know

maybe some forum users would be surprised to know that someone truly "in the know" visits these forums....

[GROWLZ]

Yea this was a awesome weekend, the weather was awesome and the races were even better. One thing i like to mention is cant those filthy pigs give some ppl a break..Soon as i drive in they are out with the radar getting ppl. Then the state of the car parks were so muddy you needed a 4x4 to park so everyone parked on the main rd, so when they come out after the races on Sunday everyone had a ticket on there window...

Bloody lazy pigs couldnt be bother to chase down other ppl, they just rather grab some easy revenue.