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Road Warrior
23-06-2007, 02:36 PM
Check this out, its a Euro NCAP test of some Chinese made sedan.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/22/brilliance-bs6s-adac-crash-test-is-anything-but/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/06/brilliancecrash.jpg


In German crash test, China's Brilliance BS6 sedan fails miserably

Posted Jun 22nd 2007 9:01AM by Alex Nunez

China's Brilliance BS6 is a recent entry into the European market, positioned as a premium-style import sedan at a budget price. Well, after seeing the videos of the car undergoing crash testing using Euro NCAP guidelines at the ADAC (Germany's AAA, essentially) test center, one thing's certain: buyers get what they pay for. The BS6, as currently constructed, appears to a complete piece of crap. The horrifying 40 mph offset frontal crash test video shows damage that can be described as catastrophic at best. The A-pillar collapses and folds up like a cheap suitcase, forcing the driver's door to pop largely out of its frame, while the lower portion of the car buckles like it's made of recycled pop cans. We wouldn't want to be the driver's legs...or any other part of him for that matter. To open the mangled door afterwards, the ADAC techs needed to use a huge crowbar to get it to budge. ADAC notes that the pedals intruded a foot and a half (32 cm) into the driver's space, while the IP moved in almost 8 inches (20 cm). Needless to say, the BS6 failed the test, garnering just 1 star.

The side-impact video's no picnic, either, as the driver's upper body takes the impact so hard, the injuries sustained would likely prove fatal. For all the crowing about Chinese cars and how they're an inevitability, if this is the kind of safety that they'll bring with them, have fun finding buyers. Back in April, Brilliance's head honcho said that this very model, the BS6, would be imported to the US either later this year or in 2008. You know what? Keep it.

After seeing the car's stellar crash performance in Deutschland, we wouldn't be caught dead in one. The good news for Europeans is that this disastrous test result might be enough to halt sales. That's what happened after the Jiangling Motors' Landwind SUV failed the same test in even more spectacular fashion in late 2005 (listen to the ADAC guys crack up after they see the Landwind result in that second link).

Until Chinese automakers get very serious about making and exporting cars that meet commonly-accepted occupant protection standards, the idea of them having any impact whatsoever in the safety-conscious United States market is laughable.

There are videos there too :spew:

OLDYELLA65
23-06-2007, 02:51 PM
:driving::machinegun:KEEP THE CRAP OUT !!!!

keen
23-06-2007, 03:05 PM
Unfortunately,like most things china made...if its sold at the right price people will buy there products and lots of them.

A^K^T
23-06-2007, 03:06 PM
There was a link in there to another Chinese car that didn't do as well as that one , the pulled the crash test dummy out in pieces :confused: . Jiangling Motors' Landwind SUV link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZWy_fASSiQ)

superSV6
23-06-2007, 03:44 PM
OMG, check out the videos of this piece of crap on youtube!

Brillance? I think not!

edit:

i'm very surprised that they even managed to export such a piece of crap into the European market!

Mungrel
23-06-2007, 07:18 PM
Thats horrific!
That A-Pillar just folds like a tin can :eek:

A^K^T
23-06-2007, 07:28 PM
There is a crash test on the Smart car on Youtube where they crashed it into a concrete barrier at 70 mph and didn't bend the A-Pillar or passenger compartment as much .

SS346
23-06-2007, 07:35 PM
Oh dear. that is just pathetic, they should leave those cars in China

A^K^T
24-06-2007, 07:43 PM
Here is a link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caOqD54oxRA) to a video on Youtube showing a crash test on a VB or VH , not too sure what speed it was at but :shock:

pagey
24-06-2007, 08:09 PM
Here is a link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caOqD54oxRA) to a video on Youtube showing a crash test on a VB or VH , not too sure what speed it was at but :shock:

Holy crap!

Looks like someone cut 3/4 through all the supports! That is gunna leave a mark :eyes:

Wonky
25-06-2007, 12:44 AM
Here is a link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caOqD54oxRA) to a video on Youtube showing a crash test on a VB or VH , not too sure what speed it was at but :shock:
Sheeeit!! Hopefully for people with older Commodores it was at higher speed than they normally do them at as it certainly ain't gonna buff out!! :D

Nutter
25-06-2007, 01:19 AM
early commys where very soft, thats why there soo damm light!! there was nothing in them, if you think thats bad Early Vn's were known to crack windscreens if jacked up from one corner, the interior lights would come on over big bumps (I have driven one and had this happen on train tracks) due to flex allowing the door switch to move.

I know someone who bought a VN brand new back in the day, hooked up there 18 foot half cabin, step on it at the lights only to hear one of the back doors release on to the second catch!!!!!

Even series 1 VT where terrible, first with the siliconed firewall, rated very poorley in crash testing. If i remember series 2 VT's had something like 4,000 extra spot welds to try and stop them from peeling open.

Freaky
25-06-2007, 08:33 AM
maybe the chinese sh*tbox has been built for real world crash scenarios like the VE. :rofl:

Many here think the ANCAP tests are a joke anyway.....

SS Enforcer
25-06-2007, 09:55 AM
That SUV one is really bad ..... at least the airbags deployed.

cheerz

Danv8
25-06-2007, 11:22 AM
Oh well it only matters when you crash which hope none of us ever do. :-)
Besides even with many of safety advances made to new cars there is still a chance of being killed in an accident. They could give a car 50 star rating crash test and someone still can be killed.

One thing is if your worried about having a crash stay at home instead. :-)

Carby
25-06-2007, 11:39 AM
maybe the chinese sh*tbox has been built for real world crash scenarios like the VE. :rofl:

Many here think the ANCAP tests are a joke anyway.....

Always have to have a dig don't you! - the difference is the VE comfortably passed it's test - something Holden knew it would do. It also correctly predicted it would not get 5 stars on the base model.

It's good to have a crash test standard - I just don't think one should think it is the be all and end all for crash test safety. I'm sure that a car could be built to pass a crash test standard but it may not be the safest car overall, given the many different crash type scenario's.

swst
25-06-2007, 01:59 PM
That chinese car is just scary, not to mention that it was hideous looking before they crashed it!

When I crashed my vq statesman I rolled it and flipped it several times, but the cab itself was pretty well intact, the boot and bonnet collapsed doing its job I suppose. Other than losing my car I was very impressed!
Does anyone know of any links for the testing of the newer commodores say vt- now? I would be interested to see the comparison

Road Warrior
25-06-2007, 02:34 PM
The early 80's - late 80's Commodores are just that...1980's Commodores.

This Chinese thing is a 2007 model that is purported to be a family sedan, yet its crash safety is worse than a 25yo car.

I think that speaks volumes for China's engieering capacity and committment to producing quality products :rofl:

vecommo
25-06-2007, 03:32 PM
Sheeeit!! Hopefully for people with older Commodores it was at higher speed than they normally do them at as it certainly ain't gonna buff out!! :D


Geez that's scary. I can only assume that test was done at 100kmh+, as I dont think it would've passed even the most basic ADR's if it crumbled like that in the standard 64kmh test.
There is also a date on the car which says 09/06/92, now why would they be testing VB commodores in 1992 which is almost 15 years after their release?