How do you differentiate between WH I and WH II Statesman/Caprice??

[Mr_Caprice]

Hello People,

I realise that a simple answer to this may simply be to check a VIN number, but I hope to gain a more practical ‘spotters’ guide. Somewhat analogous to spotting unmarked police cars with lower suspension, unwashed brake dusted wheels, no mudflaps, oh and the rather forbidding person behind the wheel in a light coloured long sleeved business shirt.

My motivation for asking, is such that I have a 2001 WH Caprice. Now, on the back is says Caprice Series II. But looking a Voodoo’s Caprice, with the chrome insert around the rear number plate, if in fact mine was a series II, I should also have chrome insert, which I do not. Hence, I am wondering if someone has simply thrown on a series II badge, or simply mine might be a low spec series II??

Does anyone know if there were any series II’s in 2001? Are there any ‘giveaways’ that can be spotted to differentiate at a glance between a WH I and II?? (Apart from the badge at the back :)).

I realise that much of this information may be found by scouring Holden manuals etc, but I felt a discussion on the matter might be warranted.

Safe driving one and all.

[markone2]

Dash is a dead giveaway :)

WH Caprice Seriers one

Standard
Equipment 10 Speaker Stereo, 16" Alloy Wheels, ABS (Antilock Brakes), Adjustable Steering Col. - Tilt & Reach, Air Cond. - Climate Control Multi-Zone, Airbags - Driver & Passenger (Dual), Airbags - Side for 1st Row Occupants (Front), Alarm, Body Colour - Bumpers, Body Colour - Fittings, CD Stacker - 10 disc, Central Locking - Remote/Keyless, Chrome Exterior Highlights, Chrome Grille, Control - Traction, Cruise Control, Disc Brakes Front Ventilated, Disc Brakes Rear Solid, Electric Seat - Drivers, Electric Seat - Drivers with Memory, Electric Seat - Passenger, Engine Immobiliser, Fog Lamps - Front, Headrests - Integrated 2nd Row, Independent Rear Suspension, Intermittent Wipers - Variable, Leather Gear Knob, Leather Hand Brake Lever, Leather Steering Wheel, Leather Trim (Incl. Seats, inserts), Multi-function Steering Wheel, On-board Computer, Paint - Metallic, Paint - Two Tone, Power Antenna, Power Door Mirrors, Power Steering, Power Windows - Front & Rear, Radio Cassette, Remote Boot/Hatch Release, Remote Fuel Lid Release, Stainless Steel Exhaust, Suspension - Auto Levelling, Tacho, Trip Computer, Velour Trim, Woodgrain - Centre Console, Woodgrain - Inserts
Optional
Equipment GPS (Satellite Navigation), Limited Slip Diff, Spoiler - Rear, Sunroof - Electric
Release Date June 1999



WH11 Caprice / Release Date August 2001 / model current till May 2003

Standard
Equipment 10 Speaker Stereo, 16" Alloy Wheels, ABS (Antilock Brakes), Adjustable Steering Col. - Tilt & Reach, Air Cond. - Climate Control Multi-Zone, Airbags - Driver & Passenger (Dual), Airbags - Side for 1st Row Occupants (Front), Alarm, Armrest - Rear Occupants, Armrests - Front (Driver & Passenger), Body Colour - Bumpers, Body Colour - Fittings, CD Stacker - 10 disc, Central Locking - Remote/Keyless, Chrome Exterior Highlights, Chrome Grille, Control - Traction, Cruise Control, Disc Brakes Front Ventilated, Disc Brakes Rear Solid, Electric Seat - Drivers, Electric Seat - Drivers with Memory, Electric Seat - Passenger, Engine Immobiliser, Fog Lamps - Front, Headrests - Integrated 2nd Row, Independent Rear Suspension, Intermittent Wipers - Variable, Leather Gear Knob, Leather Hand Brake Lever, Leather Trim (Incl. Seats, inserts), Limited Slip Diff, Multi-function Steering Wheel, On-board Computer, Paint - Metallic, Paint - Two Tone, Power Antenna, Power Door Mirrors, Power Steering, Power Windows - Front & Rear, Radio Cassette, Remote Boot/Hatch Release, Remote Fuel Lid Release, Stainless Steel Exhaust, Tacho, Telematics - Monitoring Service, Trip Computer, Velour Trim, Wood/Leather Steering Wheel, Woodgrain - Centre Console, Woodgrain - Inserts
Optional
Equipment Auto Levelling Suspension, GPS (Satellite Navigation), Spoiler - Rear, Sunroof - Electric

Body Style SEDAN

[Daniel996]

One of the vehicle reference guides used to tell you the differences between Series I and SII models, can't recall which one though. I had a quick look at redbook.com.au and it's not that one!

You can also check the indicator stalks - see this page here (http://www.users.on.net/~nweber/holden/wh/index.html)

Cheers
Dan

[LS1Grange]

This is how I tell the differece with a quick view.

Series I dash.

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/caprice steer1.jpg

Series I dash. Most obvious thing is the steering wheel.

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/caprice steer2.jpg

Rear of Series I.

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/caprice back1.jpg

Rear of Series II. Notice the Caprice is now in a badge format instead of along the back.

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/caprice back2.jpg

Wheels on Series I.

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/caprice wheels1.jpg

Wheels on Series II.

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/caprice wheels2.jpg

hope it helps.

Looks like the 2001 Series II after August 2001 did not have the chrome surround.

http://images.cainer.net//uploads/caprice 2001 series 2.jpg

hope this helps.

[Mr_Caprice]

Hi Markone2, Daniel996 and LS1Grange,

Thank you all for your information and especially thank you to LS1Grange as a picture is worth a thousand words, several pictures even more, but a thankyou will have to do for now.

It appears then that I have a hybrid vehicle. It looked stock to me when I purchased it from an old couple, so perhaps a previous owner has done some mods. I have the Series 1 interor/dash, but it has the series two bootlid/gardnish/badges and the series II wheels. I have missed out on the nice chrome piece around the rear number plate though. Prior to purchase I did extensive history and accident checks and I have a full hisotry of the vehicle and have since been in contact with the orginal company director who ran his compnay from a postcode adjacent to mine (hence the reason for the tracking down).

All the paint matches with no signs of repairs etc, so all I can think of is that someone has added the series II pieces to the car.

Thanks again for all your help :)... I'm going to give Holden a buzz to see if I can source the chrome number plate bizzo :)

Safe driving.

[Dickie Knee]

Note : International didn't get the chrome surround.

[thnk_again]

also if you look at the lower control arms on the front, s1 use a clip on the ball joint and s2 use a nut

im pretty sure any ways