View Full Version : LS-x BLocks have arrived
Animal
20-07-2007, 09:59 AM
Sam is pleased to announce his first order of the LS-x blocks are in the workshop with more to come.
We curently have 3 in stock - one is still in its crate :)
These are pretty rare to find at the moment and will allow the owmer a wide range of options to build a high performance engine.
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Animal/July%202007/LS-x%20info/LSX%201%20in%20plastic.jpg
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http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Animal/July%202007/LS-x%20info/LSX%203%20logo2.jpg
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http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Animal/July%202007/LS-x%20info/LSX%204%20face.jpg
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http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Animal/July%202007/LS-x%20info/LSX%205%20cylinders.jpg
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http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Animal/July%202007/LS-x%20info/LSX%206%20mains.jpg
1st Batch of the LS-x Blocks have arrived !!
We now have 3 in stock and more are on the way. These will be sold as complete motors and are not for the feint hearted.
Technical info as follows -
100% CNC Block Cast iron (280 kpa tensile)
-True priority oiling
-Siamese cylinder bores
-6 head bolts per cylinder
-Standard 4.400 bore spacing Standard deck height (9.700 tall deck to Follow)
-Increase deck thickness
-LS7 6 bolt Doweled in place Billet Main caps
-Max 4.500" Stroke (tall deck only) Capable of a 364 to 500+ cid Tall deck for large displacement
-Wet and dry sump capable
-Deep Skirted Head bolt Holes
-Orange power coat (Chevy)
-Maintains all OEM LS family exterior mounting features
-Accepts all Gen III & LS Heads ,cranks Cams ,ect.
-Includes Unique new cam retainer, rear cover and lifter retainers and OEM cam bearings
-Front Motor Plate mounting holes added
-Added material above cam bearings for added strength
-Approximate Finish weight 225 lbs
-9.26 semi finished deck height (Standard deck height)
-3.990 bore ready for honing, maximum 4.250bore @ .200 Minimum wall thickness.
-6 bolt LSX bolt pattern
-11mm standard bolts 8mm exterior /interior bolts
-Can be machined for 1/2 in bolts or studs
-All 5 cam bores for standard small OD bearings P/N 12453169
-Can also be machined to 60mm roller bearings
-Added material around standard .842 lifter bore also can be machined for large lifters and/ or 1.050 bronze bushings
-O-ringed screw in soft plugs
-Accommodates any LS small block oil pan and oil pump, standard LS wet sump systems and LS7 dry sump systems fits.
-External oil pump feed @ rear of block
-Front oil line can be plugged and external oil pump /aftermarket dry sump system can be used.
-Belt cam drive can be accommodated.
-7th transmission bolt hole added per early sbc
-Main web bay to bay breathing holes for increased HP
-Access windows for cylinder head stud access (intake side)
-Extra Breathing pockets added near starter for better windage
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Animal/July%202007/LS-x%20info/0702gm_03.jpg
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http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Animal/July%202007/LS-x%20info/0702gm_04.jpg
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http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/Animal/July%202007/LS-x%20info/0702gm_06.jpg
Ken
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brentonsav
20-07-2007, 10:37 AM
:drool::drool::drool::drool:
badnews
20-07-2007, 10:39 AM
some luck bastard is going to get a sams lsx, wish it was me lol
GETUTED
20-07-2007, 11:43 AM
Sam is pleased to announce his first order of the LS-x blocks are in the workshop with more to come.
We curently have 3 in stock - one is still in its crate :)
These are pretty rare to find at the moment and will allow the owmer a wide range of options to build a high performance engine.
1st Batch of the LS-x Blocks have arrived !!
We now have 3 in stock and more are on the way. These will be sold as complete motors and are not for the feint hearted.
Technical info as follows -
100% CNC Block Cast iron (280 kpa tensile)
-True priority oiling
-Siamese cylinder bores
-6 head bolts per cylinder
-Standard 4.400 bore spacing Standard deck height (9.700 tall deck to Follow)
-Increase deck thickness
-LS7 6 bolt Doweled in place Billet Main caps
-Max 4.500" Stroke (tall deck only) Capable of a 364 to 500+ cid Tall deck for large displacement
-Wet and dry sump capable
-Deep Skirted Head bolt Holes
-Orange power coat (Chevy)
-Maintains all OEM LS family exterior mounting features
-Accepts all Gen III & LS Heads ,cranks Cams ,ect.
-Includes Unique new cam retainer, rear cover and lifter retainers and OEM cam bearings
-Front Motor Plate mounting holes added
-Added material above cam bearings for added strength
-Approximate Finish weight 225 lbs
-9.26 semi finished deck height (Standard deck height)
-3.990 bore ready for honing, maximum 4.250bore @ .200 Minimum wall thickness.
-6 bolt LSX bolt pattern
-11mm standard bolts 8mm exterior /interior bolts
-Can be machined for 1/2 in bolts or studs
-All 5 cam bores for standard small OD bearings P/N 12453169
-Can also be machined to 60mm roller bearings
-Added material around standard .842 lifter bore also can be machined for large lifters and/ or 1.050 bronze bushings
-O-ringed screw in soft plugs
-Accommodates any LS small block oil pan and oil pump, standard LS wet sump systems and LS7 dry sump systems fits.
-External oil pump feed @ rear of block
-Front oil line can be plugged and external oil pump /aftermarket dry sump system can be used.
-Belt cam drive can be accommodated.
-7th transmission bolt hole added per early sbc
-Main web bay to bay breathing holes for increased HP
-Access windows for cylinder head stud access (intake side)
-Extra Breathing pockets added near starter for better windage
Great news. Can't wait to see the results!! :)
So what sort of $ are we looking at for a complete motor with similar specs to your stage 3 stroker but with around 480ci?
KPWISHN
20-07-2007, 11:57 AM
So what do you think of the blocks after seeing them in the flesh?:)
vxcalais
20-07-2007, 04:36 PM
how much for a complete 454 ci n/a engine ?
where do i sign ?
`redoctober
20-07-2007, 04:41 PM
That is strangely erotic.
VYSSion
20-07-2007, 05:13 PM
I could SERIOUSLY be talked into buying something like that... :eek::evil::headbang::drool:
choppo
20-07-2007, 07:21 PM
Ken, can you get them in blue?
Animal
20-07-2007, 08:13 PM
So what do you think of the blocks after seeing them in the flesh?:)
They are extremely well designed, and built for some top end performance. Sam has some serious ideas on what he would do with them, I just need to find a nice nubine 25 year old cheerleader :p
Haroc
20-07-2007, 08:15 PM
http://www.speedunleashed.com/shop/files/images/d_2042.jpg
Any color you want.
Blocks looks very nice :)
Animal
20-07-2007, 08:16 PM
how much for a complete 454 ci n/a engine ?
where do i sign ?
Would that be with the $2000 pistons, the $4000 pistons or the $8000 ones ?
To get true value from these blocks you would not be building anything less than 454cubes.
That is strangely erotic.
I have some more pics if you need them, maybey some ky jelly too :P
Sonny@Autowerks
20-07-2007, 08:17 PM
They are a great thing ken,our ones turned up last week :),great looking block !!!
regards sonny
Animal
20-07-2007, 08:18 PM
Ken, can you get them in blue?
After spending the week with your beast Steve, I think Sam is turning blue :rofl:
Thanks for the colour choices Haroc
KPWISHN
20-07-2007, 08:21 PM
To get true value from these blocks you would not be building anything less than 454cubes.
Is that because of the weight of them.
Justice R8
20-07-2007, 08:27 PM
They are a great thing ken,our ones turned up last week :),great looking block !!!
regards sonny
I cant believe you didnt post them up last week. I know you have been busy, but I would have thought that since you have had time to post other stuff, I would have thought you would have found time to put up a pic for us all to have a look at considering the fact these are the latest greatest thing everyone has been waiting for.
Is one for your car and one for Steve?
choppo
20-07-2007, 08:30 PM
Any color you want.
Blocks looks very nice :)
As Bert said... "i like the boy.......". Haven't seen a Moderator get onto chosing colours on a block so quickly in years!
Animal
20-07-2007, 08:33 PM
Is that because of the weight of them.
Iron blocks are heavy suckers, that and the $$ you would use for the quality components to make the purchase of this kind of block worthwhile.
I learnt a heap more about these blocks by reading the data and the Chev coloured info brochures, thats why I took the time and posted them all up.
As Bert said... "i like the boy.......".
Are you sure it wasn't foghorn leghorn Steve :eyes:
How did you go with Sam's adapter ? fitted it up yet ?
choppo
20-07-2007, 08:55 PM
Sam's adaptor slid in nicely.... always does:confused:. Ill have to talk to the wife about that.
michaels1v8
21-07-2007, 01:36 AM
To get true value from these blocks you would not be building anything less than 454cubes.
What a shame!
Awesome stuff guys cant wait to see the power outputs of some of these suckers
HRT 8
21-07-2007, 09:38 AM
What a shame!
Awesome stuff guys cant wait to see the power outputs of some of these suckers
Power will no doubt be good considering Sam is building them. BUT the real action will be the Torque that these mothers will produce.
Im tipping kenworth type tq right from the basement.
HOWQUICK
22-07-2007, 02:55 PM
some people talk.....others do.
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/howquick/07%2007%20019.jpg
I preferred black. Even has a pair of the "special" unavailable ETP LSX bolt LS7 heads on it.....
joffa
22-07-2007, 03:07 PM
:drool::drool:
Alex81
22-07-2007, 03:10 PM
:drool::drool:
^^^^ i second that ^^^^^:bow::bow::bow:
Tre-Cool
22-07-2007, 03:12 PM
some people talk.....others do.
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/howquick/07%2007%20019.jpg
I preferred black. Even has a pair of the "special" unavailable ETP LSX bolt LS7 heads on it.....
With a sump like that, I'm guessing someone is planning on hitting the track.
awesome
KPWISHN
22-07-2007, 04:14 PM
Does that happen to have a V7 hanging off the side aswell.:)
UD_LOSE
22-07-2007, 04:24 PM
Does that happen to have a V7 hanging off the side aswell.:)
lol it does look familiar.....a great effort to i might add :drool: things i would do to own an engine like that
6.2L.Club
22-07-2007, 04:46 PM
I think that just got put on my "things to buy when the house is sold" list. Was looking at Kostecki's in house block but l like the iron block for my future charged 454 :bow: :D
HOWQUICK
22-07-2007, 04:48 PM
Does that happen to have a V7 hanging off the side aswell.:)
got some big Vortec on it. Makes over 1000rwhp easily without dyno tricks.
Running at the Autosalon show today but the Mainline dyno is having all sorts of dramas holding onto it. Think it went just over 1000rwhp at the show but the retarder can't cope with the load.
I think that just got put on my "things to buy when the house is sold" list. Was looking at Kostecki's in house block but l like the iron block for my future charged 454 :bow: :D
I don't see how 454" is reliable on the 9.24 deck that everyone is building/talking concidering the bore spacing is the same as GenI small block. Spose time will tell. The engine in the photo is 427".
the heads are readily available and I have sold 4 pairs so far and know Sam has some coming soon.
6.2L.Club
22-07-2007, 06:02 PM
I don't see how 454" is reliable on the 9.24 deck that everyone is building/talking concidering the bore spacing is the same as GenI small block. Spose time will tell. The engine in the photo is 427".
the heads are readily available and I have sold 4 pairs so far and know Sam has some coming soon.
yeah, sorry, l would prefer 427 anyways for that little bit extra rev-ability :D
Hopefully by the time l get one there wil be a few who have tinkered with them and have a bit of a history to guage their reliability and any issues. Is there anywhere l can get more info about this block ie manufacturer, designer, US track record as well as info on LSX heads??
BLQWN
22-07-2007, 06:56 PM
How do they measure up ie- squareness, mains sizing etc?
Animal
22-07-2007, 06:58 PM
some people talk.....others do.
Sam always delivers
gollum
22-07-2007, 07:26 PM
Tall dark and handsome !!! ....lot like myself really !!!! :confused:
.................um......if i was a bit taller,...and.....aw !! forget it !!! :flipoff:http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/howquick/07%2007%20019.jpg
Animal
22-07-2007, 08:39 PM
.................um......if i was a bit taller,...and.....
...... had more cubes, a bigger stroke, brass connectors :rofl:
awddynotodd
23-07-2007, 02:30 AM
Running at the Autosalon show today but the Mainline dyno is having all sorts of dramas holding onto it. Think it went just over 1000rwhp at the show but the retarder can't cope with the load.
Howquick,
I was using a single retarder rear bed at this Autosalon event, and a single retarder on our system is good for just on 1600Nm of Roller Torque. When I dyno'd this car on Saturday, I'd done a few of Mark's other cars just previous and I stopped the run at about 6700RPM, yes the retarder was warm and I couldn't quite show the true capability of the car.
Today I did it straight after lunch with a dead cold Retarder and the car made 1001.5RWHP. If you look at the accompanying Graph, you can see the Torque falling over so that's all it's got at the moment on one of our dyno's, the peak torque was 1587.4Nm of Roller Torque, so I had about 13Nm up my sleeve.
You might ask Mark to show you the Graph from his DD Twin Retarder and compare the curves, you won't see an ugly control system oop-de-do on our Graph, only just what you'd expect a Supercharged Engine of this nature to do.
http://users.tpg.com.au/adslltvd/dyno_graphs/blownlsx3.jpg
Here's a pic of the car:
http://users.tpg.com.au/adslltvd/dyno_graphs/blownlsxcar.jpg
seedyrom
23-07-2007, 06:50 AM
that is gorgeous! The engine bay looks great!
Well done to all involved !
And a lovely looking graph too :)
awddynotodd
23-07-2007, 09:20 AM
that is gorgeous! The engine bay looks great!
Well done to all involved !
And a lovely looking graph too :)
I'll try and get a video of the dyno run up later today.
vt2vx
23-07-2007, 09:48 AM
:drool::drool::drool::drool:
could say that about your avatar
Delco
23-07-2007, 10:21 AM
Howquick,
I was using a single retarder rear bed at this Autosalon event, and a single retarder on our system is good for just on 1600Nm of Roller Torque. When I dyno'd this car on Saturday, I'd done a few of Mark's other cars just previous and I stopped the run at about 6700RPM, yes the retarder was warm and I couldn't quite show the true capability of the car.
Today I did it straight after lunch with a dead cold Retarder and the car made 1001.5RWHP. If you look at the accompanying Graph, you can see the Torque falling over so that's all it's got at the moment on one of our dyno's, the peak torque was 1587.4Nm of Roller Torque, so I had about 13Nm up my sleeve.
You might ask Mark to show you the Graph from his DD Twin Retarder and compare the curves, you won't see an ugly control system oop-de-do on our Graph, only just what you'd expect a Supercharged Engine of this nature to do.
http://users.tpg.com.au/adslltvd/dyno_graphs/blownlsx3.jpg
Here's a pic of the car:
http://users.tpg.com.au/adslltvd/dyno_graphs/blownlsxcar.jpg
Here is the graph you asked for , we where unable to hold down the power on the DD , it kept pulling the dyno out of the bed and blasing the rear tyres while we where tuning it.
http://chipmaster.com.au/Dyno/GTO_wheelspin.JPG
HOWQUICK
23-07-2007, 10:26 AM
Sam always delivers
I wasn't saying he didn't deliver.....
Howquick,
I was using a single retarder rear bed at this Autosalon event, and a single retarder on our system is good for just on 1600Nm of Roller Torque. When I dyno'd this car on Saturday, I'd done a few of Mark's other cars just previous and I stopped the run at about 6700RPM, yes the retarder was warm and I couldn't quite show the true capability of the car.
Today I did it straight after lunch with a dead cold Retarder and the car made 1001.5RWHP. If you look at the accompanying Graph, you can see the Torque falling over so that's all it's got at the moment on one of our dyno's, the peak torque was 1587.4Nm of Roller Torque, so I had about 13Nm up my sleeve.
You might ask Mark to show you the Graph from his DD Twin Retarder and compare the curves, you won't see an ugly control system oop-de-do on our Graph, only just what you'd expect a Supercharged Engine of this nature to do.
my simple comment was the dyno had trouble with the retarder. It wasn't a dyno-v-dyno sledge so relax.
Delco
23-07-2007, 10:44 AM
I
my simple comment was the dyno had trouble with the retarder. It wasn't a dyno-v-dyno sledge so relax.
An I backed it up saying the DD had the same issues :)
Chassis dyno is not really ideal at this sort of power level.
OUTAtheBloo
23-07-2007, 11:28 AM
That block looks awesome ! It must be great for the very few who can afford to buy and build one of these suckers. You would have to budget for 40k minimum surely ?
The rest of us will have to be content with dreaming, and hopefully getting to hear these things. I look forward to seeing the results hopefully shared on the forum in the future :D
Dan
Timmay5.7
23-07-2007, 11:40 AM
That block looks awesome ! It must be great for the very few who can afford to buy and build one of these suckers. You would have to budget for 40k minimum surely ?
The rest of us will have to be content with dreaming, and hopefully getting to hear these things. I look forward to seeing the results hopefully shared on the forum in the future :D
Dan
I'd be thinking around the 40k mark... Kostekci can do a 454 drive in drive out for 30ISH, but as was noted above, these appear to be a better stronger build.
Cmon credit card increase...
KeenGolfer
23-07-2007, 05:38 PM
That block looks awesome ! It must be great for the very few who can afford to buy and build one of these suckers. You would have to budget for 40k minimum surely ?
Dan
You can buy complete LSX 454's from the US for $13-$14k USD with LS7 ETP heads and lots of good gear inside such as Callies, ARP etc, balanced and blueprinted. Around $20k AUD landed after freight and import duty. I'd say budget at least $25k for a build here, but at least you get local warranty.
HOWQUICK
23-07-2007, 06:09 PM
That block looks awesome ! It must be great for the very few who can afford to buy and build one of these suckers. You would have to budget for 40k minimum surely ?
The rest of us will have to be content with dreaming, and hopefully getting to hear these things. I look forward to seeing the results hopefully shared on the forum in the future :D
Dan
this 40k figure pops up a lot lately. The motors aren't near that but the rest of the stuff to make it run reliably take it over that.
Some can, some can't. I'd like to live at Mindarie with my boat at the private jetty and go cray fishing every morning. Reality, I come to work and live in the 'burbs.
OUTAtheBloo
23-07-2007, 06:15 PM
I guess thats what i meant by the 40k figure, everything to do it properly. Would give a great result without a doubt :)
Dan
awddynotodd
24-07-2007, 03:26 AM
Video of 1000HP LSX GTO, impressive car, makes 1000HP sound easy.
http://users.tpg.com.au/adslltvd/dyno_graphs/gto_red.wmv
Graph of Power only:
http://users.tpg.com.au/adslltvd/dyno_graphs/gto_power.jpg
Crieky it gets there fast.
ASSASIN
24-07-2007, 01:09 PM
some people talk.....others do.
http://www.haroc.1337thing.com/ls1/howquick/07%2007%20019.jpg
I preferred black. Even has a pair of the "special" unavailable ETP LSX bolt LS7 heads on it.....
Well i stand corrected
Looks very neat, What sort of setup are you running for the coils and rocker covers
Delco
24-07-2007, 03:19 PM
Well i stand corrected
Looks very neat, What sort of setup are you running for the coils and rocker covers
Here it is in the car
http://chipmaster.com.au/ftp/GTO%20engine.JPG
jsttry
24-07-2007, 04:06 PM
That's a very nice engine bay there
WOMBIE
24-07-2007, 04:13 PM
Isn't it what...:drool:
JohnS
24-07-2007, 04:56 PM
Here it is in the car
http://chipmaster.com.au/ftp/GTO%20engine.JPG
what is the rubber cone at the rear on the supercharger?
shaun
24-07-2007, 05:29 PM
Love the OTR Intercooler setup,who does these?:cool:
Alex81
24-07-2007, 05:32 PM
Love the OTR Intercooler setup,who does these?:cool:
If i was a betting man i would say Mark from Marks workshop but i could be wrong.
Delco
24-07-2007, 06:00 PM
Love the OTR Intercooler setup,who does these?:cool:
Full custom
HSVJPL
24-07-2007, 08:53 PM
what is the rubber cone at the rear on the supercharger?
Simple bell mouth air intake in lieu of an air filter.
Animal
24-07-2007, 08:53 PM
Not just a pretty block now are they :)
You and me both Josh , it ramped up the horses dam fast
Yes missus is always complaining about it.:)
Delco
25-07-2007, 09:54 AM
Simple bell mouth air intake in lieu of an air filter.
That is what is uses for the dyno , for normal use there is a fully functional cold air system that is in place but this proved to be slighlty restrictive
stevieturbo
25-07-2007, 10:26 AM
Here it is in the car
http://chipmaster.com.au/ftp/GTO%20engine.JPG
Whats the extra bracketry in front of the blower ?
Extra idlers just ? or does it link up for extra blower bracing ?
Any details about how fast the blower is spinning, or camshaft used in this engine ?
Seems to make a lot of power at high revs ( ie 7k+ )
Delco
25-07-2007, 11:38 AM
Whats the extra bracketry in front of the blower ?
Extra idlers just ? or does it link up for extra blower bracing ?
Any details about how fast the blower is spinning, or camshaft used in this engine ?
Seems to make a lot of power at high revs ( ie 7k+ )
Bracing and idler support so the system doesnt need a crank brace ( wouldnt fit and still allow fans etc) , havent even started to expore the power after 6000rpm yet as we havent been able to get a dyno to hold it properly yet , should make power well into the 7000+ rpm zone , we also exceeded the airflow of the blower so boost is dropping from 6000rpm as well.
I have one log when we made 1017hp where the boost pushed my foot off the accelerator so we only saw 55% throttle at the end :)
http://chipmaster.com.au/ftp/1017hp.JPG
Cant say enough about how impressed I am with this engine combo
RED R8
25-07-2007, 11:43 AM
That is just insane ,1017hp yet it looks tame.I often think back 10 years what it would take to make 1000hp drivable yet nowadays its very possible and very drivable (I know its in the good hands of the tune king) but its just incredible how far the performance scene has evolved the only hurdle we come acorss is how deep are your pockets .
6.2L.Club
25-07-2007, 02:33 PM
That is just insane ,1017hp yet it looks tame.I often think back 10 years what it would take to make 1000hp drivable yet nowadays its very possible and very drivable (I know its in the good hands of the tune king) but its just incredible how far the performance scene has evolved the only hurdle we come acorss is how deep are your pockets .
Looks like you just found the solution to you tax problem Daz :confused: That's bad luck you blew your engine Daz, now your just gunna have to fit a new donk ! :lmao:
It's on my shopping list next year ! :D
JohnS
25-07-2007, 02:38 PM
We now have 3 in stock and more are on the way. These will be sold as complete motors and are not for the feint hearted.
Technical info as follows -
100% CNC Block Cast iron (280 kpa tensile)
-Approximate Finish weight 225 lbs
Ken
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what is the finished weight of a LS2 block?
Thx
HOWQUICK
25-07-2007, 02:46 PM
what is the finished weight of a LS2 block?
Thx
about half. the Warhawk is 130lb.:eyes:
Animal
26-07-2007, 09:49 AM
That is just insane ,1017hp yet it looks tame.I often think back 10 years what it would take to make 1000hp drivable yet nowadays its very possible and very drivable (I know its in the good hands of the tune king) but its just incredible how far the performance scene has evolved the only hurdle we come acorss is how deep are your pockets .
A lot of it has to do with the selection of the components used. I have no doubt that Howquick ( John ) spent a fair amount of time doing his homework with regards to the parts that were used and the outcome he was looking for.
Add to this a quality tune and what we see here is a fantastic result.
And we can now all see Delco's woody from the east coast :p
HOWQUICK
26-07-2007, 10:00 AM
A lot of it has to do with the selection of the components used. I have no doubt that Howquick ( John ) spent a fair amount of time doing his homework with regards to the parts that were used and the outcome he was looking for.
Add to this a quality tune and what we see here is a fantastic result.
And we can now all see Delco's woody from the east coast :p
Basically the engine is an evolution of the stuff we have been building for near 7 years in LS just with a new design block and cylinder heads. Same principles applied to the build with regards to part quality that get built here everyday. The engine really isn't much different to what Dan ran 10.2@139mph with 4 years ago.
The labour in an engine build is really a very low percentage of the whole package. The parts applied to the build are what adds it up.
stevieturbo
26-07-2007, 10:10 AM
John, Any details on cam spec, or how fast the blower is spinning ??
XR4TED
26-07-2007, 10:14 AM
I may have missed it, but what is the cubic capacity of this engine?
HOWQUICK
26-07-2007, 12:16 PM
John, Any details on cam spec, or how fast the blower is spinning ??
Stevie, without being rude....do you really think Iam going to post that? I saw you ask the first time. It isn't secret as the customer knows as he paid the bill. It is a lot smaller than what many would concider required.
THe engine makes its power on 18lb boost. So plenty more to come when we want to boost it up.
KPWISHN
26-07-2007, 12:26 PM
Well done John. You've set the bench mark for these LSX engines.:bow:
Now let's see what Sam can do.:D Look forward to more big results.
turboivo
27-07-2007, 07:27 AM
[QUOTE=awddynotodd;975834]Video of 1000HP LSX GTO, impressive car, makes 1000HP sound easy.
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Hi Todd, seems DD dyno shows approx. 300Nm more than Mainline or I'm wrong? Any comments on that difference?
awddynotodd
27-07-2007, 10:38 AM
[QUOTE=awddynotodd;975834]Video of 1000HP LSX GTO, impressive car, makes 1000HP sound easy.
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Hi Todd, seems DD dyno shows approx. 300Nm more than Mainline or I'm wrong? Any comments on that difference?
Hi Ivo,
The Motive Force on our system shows 3283lbs. If different gearing was used between the 2 tests, this could be a reason, but I'm not aware of this.
FYI, the 3283lbs comes from 1584.7NM/0.1085 (Roller Radius) gives us 14605newtons. Newtons to Pounds Force is times 0.2248089.
I don't have an answer for the difference, but I can prove our numbers.
turboivo
27-07-2007, 05:12 PM
Hi Todd, I know your work and your product quality and I don't have any doubts about your dyno readings. Thats it, period! I was just curious from technical point of view, not from competitor's. Thanks for the answer and wish you all the best! Regards from Bulgaria.
VYSHSV8
27-07-2007, 11:08 PM
You might find the difference is in the heat that might have been generated when the tuning was going on as the retarder would have been quite hot after sveral tuning runs, which means if I am correct that it might give a slightly higher reading than a fresh cold dyno....but still its a massive effort..on either dyno...
awddynotodd
28-07-2007, 07:25 AM
You might find the difference is in the heat that might have been generated when the tuning was going on as the retarder would have been quite hot after sveral tuning runs, which means if I am correct that it might give a slightly higher reading than a fresh cold dyno....but still its a massive effort..on either dyno...
The opposite would be true.
Delco
28-07-2007, 10:46 AM
Was tuned on a proper twin retarder dyno so heat was never as issue :) also all tuning stuff is done spaced apart a lot while data is analysed so the dyno never showed any signs of getting warm.
Traction was the only issue :0
VooDoo
28-07-2007, 12:40 PM
There are a few Americans that seem to want you to visit too Delco. Hope you dont mind but i linked the photo's to the LS1GTO forum and they are all creaming themselves.
VYSHSV8
28-07-2007, 09:54 PM
Was tuned on a proper twin retarder dyno so heat was never as issue :) also all tuning stuff is done spaced apart a lot while data is analysed so the dyno never showed any signs of getting warm.
Traction was the only issue :0
Cool thanks Dan just trying a bit more to understand these dyno's and the way they work....
Drew
stevieturbo
31-07-2007, 07:41 AM
Stevie, without being rude....do you really think Iam going to post that? I saw you ask the first time. It isn't secret as the customer knows as he paid the bill. It is a lot smaller than what many would concider required.
THe engine makes its power on 18lb boost. So plenty more to come when we want to boost it up.
You arent being rude at all...but it cant hurt to ask ;)
Brass Munky
12-09-2007, 08:38 PM
Sorry to drag up an old thread, but what are these LSx blocks (either variant, the tall deck or the small) capable of cubic inch wise? As an absolute maximum, ive read 511, but anymore than that?
Cheers
ATOMIC MALOO R8
02-10-2007, 01:00 PM
WHEN will the tall deck version be available in oz
Animal
02-10-2007, 01:35 PM
WHEN will the tall deck version be available in oz
Estimated arrival for tall deck versions appears to be feb~march 2008, I tend to take these dates with the usual grain of salt. Until I actually can touch one in the workshop then use the guesstimate as a guide only.
The good news is that 3 of our LS-X blocks have sold so far, the most recent order being for a 427ci version :eyes:
I will post some info when we start the build
ATOMIC MALOO R8
06-10-2007, 11:02 AM
Estimated arrival for tall deck versions appears to be feb~march 2008, I tend to take these dates with the usual grain of salt. Until I actually can touch one in the workshop then use the guesstimate as a guide only.
The good news is that 3 of our LS-X blocks have sold so far, the most recent order being for a 427ci version :eyes:
I will post some info when we start the build
Will the LSX tall deck version be better suited to 454 ECT ??
HOWQUICK
06-10-2007, 12:06 PM
Will the LSX tall deck version be better suited to 454 ECT ??
they will take more stroke readily.
:)
they will take more stroke readily.
sounds like someone i know taking stroke more readiliy:)
Sorry John...,
Tully:)
XR4TED
06-10-2007, 07:11 PM
WHEN will the tall deck version be available in oz
I spoke with eagle a few weeks ago they told me June/July 08 and the tall deck will be good for 572ci @ the princly sum of about $4-4.5K AUD. Sounds to good to be true.
ATOMIC MALOO R8
06-10-2007, 07:46 PM
I spoke with eagle a few weeks ago they told me June/July 08 and the tall deck will be good for 572ci @ the princly sum of about $4-4.5K AUD. Sounds to good to be true.
Thats good news would an A6 handle the torque from one of these ??
ATOMIC MALOO R8
10-10-2007, 02:37 PM
they will take more stroke readily.
I have been reading some cam related threads but am a bit confused so can you straighten me out
1/say a 210/210 cam in a 5.7 is OK would you use the same profile in a big stroker or is it a new ball game with the extra cubes ?
HOWQUICK
10-10-2007, 02:42 PM
I have been reading some cam related threads but am a bit confused so can you straighten me out
1/say a 210/210 cam in a 5.7 is OK would you use the same profile in a big stroker or is it a new ball game with the extra cubes ?
whole new game.
ATOMIC MALOO R8
10-10-2007, 02:55 PM
whole new game.
thanks
i thought it would be
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