New Exhaust Cost ??

[VEssNoob]

What will i be paying for a full exhaust cats and extractors?? i think ive got a fairly good quote i just want to see what others have paid or think it would cost

[jaykay]

Give us more details of what you have been quoted for Bernard, there are so many combinations out there.....

JK :)

[VEssNoob]

AH ok jk

Ceramic coated 4-1 extractors- $1650.00

3'' stainless cats x 2- $700.00

2 1/2'' system- $2300.00

so a total of $4650 this is fitted

[jaykay]

Brenard,

Is the catback stainless steel ? Custom made or off the shelf ?

Extractors - Pacemakers ?

Any details on the cats ?

John

[VEssNoob]

Damm jk ur as bad as the guy at the fuel station "leaded or unleaded" how would i know :bawl:

i sent you a email mate with all the details

[jaykay]

Damm jk ur as bad as the guy at the fuel station "leaded or unleaded" how would i know :bawl:


Hope he wasn't asking you that about your car....:confused:

$4,650 is a lot of money Bernard so we don't want you being ripped off mate.... Why don't you PM or ring Brad at Mr Muffler in Brisbane. Top guy and no bullshot, he'll give you an idea... Look here by clicking on this (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=82461)

[VEssNoob]

yeah asked me what type of fuel he needed i had to get the handbook out

Thats jk i have Brads number and ive spoken to him his prices are around the same as others but he seems to get alot of support from the LS1 forums so i guess im driving to brizzy thanks for the feedback

[Wonky]

KPM now have a no-drone system, full 304 grade stainless (best there is I believe, some full stainless systems are lower grade), ceramic coated Pacies and Mega Cats for $4290 all up. I'm pretty sure delivery and fitting would be around the $400 mark or less.

I have one of their earlier systems which everybody says sounds awesome, but it does drone. Am hoping to get one of their new systems shortly (probably only catback as have GTS extractors already and can't justify the cost of the Pacies for only a few kw). Plus they hang lower.

Definitely worth contacting the guys from KPM!

[Brandonsdad]

Im getting a 2.5in system put on tomorrow from Exhaust Technology, who supply KPM. It will be a no-drone system, hand made, cat back only, 304 stainless, 3.5 in quad tips. Price $2400.
Ive heard that there is not much of a gain doing the full system as opposed to a cat back system. Apparently the standard manifold and cats are quite free flowing, so Ive heard. So maybe you could save a bit of dosh in that area and put it towards something else.

[EXCESSV]

if the extractors are pacemakers and the cat back is a stainless steel one then $4650 is the going rate.

[VEssNoob]

I will be doin a cam at the same time and was told i should really do the whole system if thats the case

[dracer]

BIG money mate!
i would be looking more around the 4k mark...

its so hard to get a good idea on the RIGHT system though, so many bloody ideas!

if only someone made a thumping good system and evyone knew it lol!
i have one its called 3" twin difillipo but its on a WB and dont fit VE :D

dr

[Sonnymad]

AH ok jk

Ceramic coated 4-1 extractors- $1650.00

3'' stainless cats x 2- $700.00

2 1/2'' system- $2300.00

so a total of $4650 this is fitted

At that price you might as well fit the best,go get urself a di fillipo dual 3inch system and never look back...

[emg]

This may have been covered before but why are VE systems so expensive?

[EXCESSV]

This may have been covered before but why are VE systems so expensive?there is a lot more components and material to make one than previous models.
Terry (MCE) from Mindarie Custom exhaust had a post that explained the reason...will try and find it

here it is
Australian LS1 and Holden Forums - View Single Post - $5k for an Exhaust? (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=940591&postcount=80)
Australian LS1 and Holden Forums - View Single Post - $5k for an Exhaust? (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=940932&postcount=101)

there was a pic of the differences but its not there anymore

[dracer]

the ve has 18 bends @ $55.00 ea = $990
2 x rear muffler $300.00 ea = $600
1 x centre muffler $300
2 x hotdogs $120 ea = $240
6 x flange plates $10 ea = $60
4 x 3.5" s/s tips $60 ea = $240
4mt tube $240


LIke it costs 55buks to bend and hotdogs haha there like 50buks each! il post a bloody receipt!
4mt of tube is about 160. should i go on. i guess if u cant be bothered putting your own together then pay these prices by all means!

the cost are totally out of control. PLUS $45hr labour to bend the fukn pipe!
madness!

i sell steel so dont think for a second i dont know what u guys pay for stainless or mild steel.

dr

[swb996]

mate i had everything done by Brad and i cannot speak highly enough of him, the team of guys and the quality of work. i have done what i wanted and got great results with no drone what so ever at any speed. just a real great package.might be a drive, but at least you will find it worth while.if you want any pics etc..let us know.cheers

[VEssNoob]

Yeah everyone seems to be PRO brad :) so i have no problem getting the work done by him i was really just wondering about cost and as i have never put a full system on before i really just wanted to check i had asked for the right type of system and stuff Brads system is a Hybrid i have no idea what a the diffrence between his system and a 3" Di Fillipo is or if there really is any. Drone would be a issue and he is able to take all drone out so thats a big plus

[jaykay]

Yeah everyone seems to be PRO brad :) so i have no problem getting the work done by him i was really just wondering about cost and as i have never put a full system on before i really just wanted to check i had asked for the right type of system and stuff Brads system is a Hybrid i have no idea what a the diffrence between his system and a 3" Di Fillipo is or if there really is any. Drone would be a issue and he is able to take all drone out so thats a big plus
The best way is to try and line up some different systems to listen to in person before you buy. I know it's difficult being in Mt Isa but I'm sure some Forum members or sponsors will help out when you go down to Brisvegas so you can make the right choice.

What sounds nice to me may sound shite to the next person.

What may drone to me may not to the next person and so on...

I would love to hear a 3" Di Fillipo on a VE just to ease my mind. Anyone in Perth fitted one yet ?

Good luck

JK

[mce]

the ve has 18 bends @ $55.00 ea = $990
2 x rear muffler $300.00 ea = $600
1 x centre muffler $300
2 x hotdogs $120 ea = $240
6 x flange plates $10 ea = $60
4 x 3.5" s/s tips $60 ea = $240
4mt tube $240


LIke it costs 55buks to bend and hotdogs haha there like 50buks each! il post a bloody receipt!
4mt of tube is about 160. should i go on. i guess if u cant be bothered putting your own together then pay these prices by all means!

the cost are totally out of control. PLUS $45hr labour to bend the fukn pipe!
madness!

i sell steel so dont think for a second i dont know what u guys pay for stainless or mild steel.

dr

maybe you need to read the post again , we are not talking about a press bent exhaust systems , theses systems are all mandrel bends in stainless steel, and just to give you an idiea i have just bought a mandrel bender and it cost me $220.000

and if you supply me with australian made 304/316 stainless steel hot dogs for $50 i will buy them

[SS Enforcer]

AH ok jk

Ceramic coated 4-1 extractors- $1650.00

3'' stainless cats x 2- $700.00

2 1/2'' system- $2300.00

so a total of $4650 this is fitted


Thats expensive mate ... you should be able to get it a grand cheaper than that.

cheers

[WAVESS]

The best way is to try and line up some different systems to listen to in person before you buy. I know it's difficult being in Mt Isa but I'm sure some Forum members or sponsors will help out when you go down to Brisvegas so you can make the right choice.

What sounds nice to me may sound shite to the next person.

What may drone to me may not to the next person and so on...

I would love to hear a 3" Di Fillipo on a VE just to ease my mind. Anyone in Perth fitted one yet ?

Good luck

JK

Dan at Chipmaster is fitting one on mine at the start of october if it helps JK.

1 7/8 Long headers, 3" cats, and 3" stainless system all difilippo.

[Machine__Head_]

KPM now have a no-drone system, full 304 grade stainless (best there is I believe, some full stainless systems are lower grade), ceramic coated Pacies and Mega Cats for $4290 all up. I'm pretty sure delivery and fitting would be around the $400 mark or less.

I have one of their earlier systems which everybody says sounds awesome, but it does drone. Am hoping to get one of their new systems shortly (probably only catback as have GTS extractors already and can't justify the cost of the Pacies for only a few kw). Plus they hang lower.

Definitely worth contacting the guys from KPM!

I work in the sign industry and we use stainless alot.. 304 grade is a non-marine grade stainless.. still great quality.. but 316 stainless is your marine grade, good enough for anything you throw at it especially while at sea, not that you'll be driving in the ocean anytime soon.... and obviously, better quality means bigger price.

I'm not sure if any manufacturers exhausts are made with 316.. but im certain you could custom make an exhaust with 316 stainless 80, 90 or 100 mm tube..

[Wonky]

I work in the sign industry and we use stainless alot.. 304 grade is a non-marine grade stainless.. still great quality.. but 316 stainless is your marine grade, good enough for anything you throw at it especially while at sea, not that you'll be driving in the ocean anytime soon.... and obviously, better quality means bigger price.

I'm not sure if any manufacturers exhausts are made with 316.. but im certain you could custom make an exhaust with 316 stainless 80, 90 or 100 mm tube..
OK, fair enough - you'll certainly know better than me. I was under the impression from what I'd read that the lower the number the better the quality but that's obviously not true.

For those in Melbourne I should have the new KPM system on in a fortnight or so if anybody wants to hear it. :)

[Machine__Head_]

Actually.. there is no "best" quality stainless, because its all got to do with properties within the metals and how they relate to the product's exposure to weather, heat, cold, water etc..

Surgical stainless is great for knives and surgical instruments... but you wouldnt make an exhaust with it..

It's likely that 304 is just the best grade exhaust you can buy.. maybe the exhaust gurus found that 316 sounds too tinny or that 304 is better with heat.. i dunno but thats my shpiel.. :D

[ssve06]

OK, fair enough - you'll certainly know better than me. I was under the impression from what I'd read that the lower the number the better the quality but that's obviously not true.

For those in Melbourne I should have the new KPM system on in a fortnight or so if anybody wants to hear it. :)
Hi,
Will look forward to the result of th "NO DRONE" KPM system Wonky.

I know you are pretty fussy like me also, so no drone is what I want but with a nice idle & acceleration note.

Look forward to sound files & pics, etc.
I am also very fussy when it comes to the tips fittment on the rear. There is nothing worse than shit fitting exhaust tips, so I will be keen to get your feedback.

Cheers Brad

[Wonky]

No problems Brad. If I forget to mention the tips or anything else you'd like to know once I have it fitted just remind me. I haven't bothered getting a sound file yet but must try and get one before this system comes off and then again with the updated system so I can compare from the outside of the car.

As far as the tips on the KPM system go, I love 'em! :love:

They are very slightly angled out but you only ever really notice that in photos, not in real life. Nice and big! Sit nice and central and never hit the body, though I assume that's more to do with how well the fitter positions them.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/101SSV02April07sm.jpg

[ssve06]

Thanks , I will touch base when you have the new system fitted.

Cheers

[SV8er]

Thanks , I will touch base when you have the new system fitted.

Cheers

Hey Brad ,

I Have Just Ordered the NO DRONE 2 1/2 " Cat Back Premium 304 stainless System From KPM :smilesandbanana: so if you are going on the Next Cruise you can see and Hear it then Mate :) or if you are in Perth before the cruise will organise a time to meet up and show you :)

I should have it hopefully about the 18th or 19th of September will keep you informed

Cheers

Len

[dadem0n]

This may have been covered before but why are VE systems so expensive?

Because its the latest and greatest thing "at the moment" and everyone knows that most people who have coughed up $50K+ for a new car are usually going to be able to drop a few extra dollars on an exhaust. You just have to say it has some new 1 piece "technology", or new "custom mufflers" or "NO DRONE" etc etc etc :lol:

Honestly, for example, if xforce can do a twin 3" for a VZ that you can walk into a shop and have fitted for under $600, then it does NOT cost $2300 for a twin 2.5" system for a VE :flipoff:

Its just the same as paying $1000++ for someone to upload a file into your PCM :jester:

LSx mods = bend over and lube up :vpo:

[Brandonsdad]

Because its the latest and greatest thing "at the moment" and everyone knows that most people who have coughed up $50K+ for a new car are usually going to be able to drop a few extra dollars on an exhaust. You just have to say it has some new 1 piece "technology", or new "custom mufflers" or "NO DRONE" etc etc etc :lol:

Honestly, for example, if xforce can do a twin 3" for a VZ that you can walk into a shop and have fitted for under $600, then it does NOT cost $2300 for a twin 2.5" system for a VE :flipoff:

Its just the same as paying $1000++ for someone to upload a file into your PCM :jester:

LSx mods = bend over and lube up :vpo:

well, go and get an xforce on your ............

[Wonky]

LSx mods = bend over and lube up :vpo:
As long as it brings a smile to your face! :D

[dadem0n]

well, go and get an xforce on your ............

I did :idea:

[WAVESS]

At that price you might as well fit the best,go get urself a di fillipo dual 3inch system and never look back...

Yup, for around 50 bucks more you could have a full 3 inch SS difilippo.

[ssve06]

Hey Brad ,

I Have Just Ordered the NO DRONE 2 1/2 " Cat Back Premium 304 stainless System From KPM :smilesandbanana: so if you are going on the Next Cruise you can see and Hear it then Mate :) or if you are in Perth before the cruise will organise a time to meet up and show you :)

I should have it hopefully about the 18th or 19th of September will keep you informed

Cheers

Len

Sounds good to me , look forward to meeting with you when you get it on. I might not be at the next cruise, but would be keen to catch up prior as mentioned.
Cheers Brad

[MR R8]

Has anyone seen the $2800 ST deal for stainless cat back exhaust, cai and tune. I would have thought this to be a bargain compared to the prices some people are quoting here. It's only a cat back but from reports, extractors only add a few rwkws on the VE. Anyone care to comment or offer a comparison?

Then again, a couple years ago I paid $3500 for a
* Custom Tri-Y 1.75" primaries, HPC coated
* Twin 2.5" stainless steel mandrel bent exhaust with X-pipe
* Modified cats to 2.5"
* Custom stainless steel rear muffler
all mandrel bent, for my R8. But I guess that was then. When I get a VE, I'll probably go the less expensive road.


Cheers,

Rick.