VE ute Hardlids?

[jasonleiper]

I just got a quote from a dealer to supply and fit a genuine hard lid for my ve ute....$2800. That was a huge slap in the face after the struggle it was to get my ute at the start of the year.

Is anyone else looking at putting a genuine lid on? How much have you been quoted for a lid? i'm guessing someone would have got a better price than my $2800...

[vicarious]

The Blueys hardcover are nice,but the central locking kit is not.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff246/lorry21/lk1004.jpg
This is the central locking box on a blueys hardcover one one each side.

could that be any more shit looking, fancy cutting that into the tub liner:spew: looks like that will snap off the first sign something in the back hits it.

[lorry21]

The box gets mounted where the rear tie downs use to be,you can see the original hole for it.

[AussieTone]

I saw first hand one of the new Holden hard lids today. It was being fitted to a black Ute and looked disgusting. The lid is fibreglass and had flaws in the finish. You could see ripples in the surface and sort of reminded me of cellulite (best way I can describe it). The lid flexes when you open it and you must push down on both corners to close it properly. The edges appear to hang way too far past the tub and I could even see the chopped strand fibreglass on the underside.

The ‘official’ line from the parts manager was Holden have stated about half a dozen sub standard lids made it into the system and will be replaced (sound familiar). When the lid is closed you can put your fingers about half way along the sides and lift which makes the lid bow up again.

Also, for those who are looking at buying one of these ‘factory’ lids I would seriously suggest you ask if the lid has passed the crash test as an inside source tells me they have not. If your dealer says they have I’d be getting it in writing.

Overall I was very disappointed in the design and quality and have now made my decision to go with the proven, Holden endorsed EGR lid.

[vicarious]

I saw first hand one of the new Holden hard lids today. It was being fitted to a black Ute and looked disgusting. The lid is fibreglass and had flaws in the finish. You could see ripples in the surface and sort of reminded me of cellulite (best way I can describe it). The lid flexes when you open it and you must push down on both corners to close it properly. The edges appear to hang way too far past the tub and I could even see the chopped strand fibreglass on the underside.

The ‘official’ line from the parts manager was Holden have stated about half a dozen sub standard lids made it into the system and will be replaced (sound familiar). When the lid is closed you can put your fingers about half way along the sides and lift which makes the lid bow up again.

Also, for those who are looking at buying one of these ‘factory’ lids I would seriously suggest you ask if the lid has passed the crash test as an inside source tells me they have not. If your dealer says they have I’d be getting it in writing.

Overall I was very disappointed in the design and quality and have now made my decision to go with the proven, Holden endorsed EGR lid.

i love my egr lid:love:

[Deanss-v]

I saw first hand one of the new Holden hard lids today. It was being fitted to a black Ute and looked disgusting. The lid is fibreglass and had flaws in the finish. You could see ripples in the surface and sort of reminded me of cellulite (best way I can describe it). The lid flexes when you open it and you must push down on both corners to close it properly. The edges appear to hang way too far past the tub and I could even see the chopped strand fibreglass on the underside.

The ‘official’ line from the parts manager was Holden have stated about half a dozen sub standard lids made it into the system and will be replaced (sound familiar). When the lid is closed you can put your fingers about half way along the sides and lift which makes the lid bow up again.

Also, for those who are looking at buying one of these ‘factory’ lids I would seriously suggest you ask if the lid has passed the crash test as an inside source tells me they have not. If your dealer says they have I’d be getting it in writing.

Overall I was very disappointed in the design and quality and have now made my decision to go with the proven, Holden endorsed EGR lid.

Don't happen to have any snapshots of the lid.?
I think i still will stick to the EGR.

[vicarious]

even in the top gear magazine the holden ute advetisment spread shows the egr lid, shows how much confidence they have in this other one.

[lorry21]

Don't happen to have any snapshots of the lid.?
I think i still will stick to the EGR. I did but it don't really show up on the photos.I agree with aussietone its bad.

[Vlam]

Yep Dean-ssv discription of the factory lid is 100% correct...and although I am not proud of it it belongs to me.
I am not at all happy with the quality build of this GMH factory lid as I can slide my hands (big hands) up to the knuckles at the front (hinge end) and slide them all the way around.....the lid although is new born is absolutely covered with "CELLUITE" :spew:
Like most of you out there who have been waiting patiently I too have been waiting many months for the ULTIMATE GMH lid...what a joke...the internal quality finish and fixing i.e. hinges mounting plates, light, locks etc etc is 150% faultless and very much acceptable......however the same cannot be said about the exterior finish and build quality...to some it up its absolute BLOODY RUBBISH. DISGRACEFUL that GMH would spend millions they have on the design of the VE ute and allow the design of the lid to be PROSTITUTED...those decision makers at GMH (responsible) ought to be sacked :vpo:

For those of you out there still waiting be warned;
DO NOT ACCEPT THIS NEW GMH LID... because the new lid is STILL CRAP

That said, I must comment on the dealer (MOTORAMA)
Management and staff have gone above and beyond the call of duty in this instant.....the quality of their workmanship and duty of care is outstanding. Afterall they can only play the cards they have been dealt....its bloody hard to turn a pigs ear into a silk purse.

An early settlement/outcome to a very stressfull afternoon will be with welcomed tomorrow.

Refer images

1) hinge end 2) middle 3) rear corner (both sides are the same)


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/agv75/LidgapatRHreartaillight.jpg


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/agv75/Lidgapatfront.jpg


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/agv75/Lidgapabovefuelfillercap.jpg

[RyanIAm]

Refer images

:spew: What a joke!

[vicarious]

geewhiz thats a bit average, does anyone know who make these lids and do they make the cheaper ones that you find on ebay and or ute accessory shops? after seeing that i am glad i went with egr and i am sure RyanIAm is aswell.


edit pics deleted for the RSI CSP will get on his scroll button finger:jester:

[CSP]

That is quite shocking.... Compounded by the HUGE wait to even get them into production.

PS - is it really necessary to quote the same three images. Seeing three lots of the same pictures only wears out my mouse battery cause I have to use the scroll wheel more :p

[RyanIAm]

Yes after seeing those photos i'm still glad I was given an EGR lid - mind you I wasn't given a choice ;) The finish is super smooth, strong as and good luck getting your fingers under it. I think it's about time Holden made the EGR lids genuine parts!

[vicarious]

Yes after seeing those photos i'm still glad I was given an EGR lid - mind you I wasn't given a choice ;) The finish is super smooth, strong as and good luck getting your fingers under it. I think it's about time Holden made the EGR lids genuine parts!

i was given a choice, of a local lid from a ute shop but didn't see it in the flesh so i went the egr and my old man agreed with this decision. the deciding factor was the central locking and the light option which the other one didnt have

[lorry21]

Here is a shot from the side http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff246/lorry21/lk2005.jpg

[CSP]

Here is a shot from the side

Try it the right way round...

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/Random/lk2005.jpg

[AussieTone]

Yep Dean-ssv discription of the factory lid is 100% correct...and although I am not proud of it it belongs to me.
I am not at all happy with the quality build of this GMH factory lid as I can slide my hands (big hands) up to the knuckles at the front (hinge end) and slide them all the way around.....the lid although is new born is absolutely covered with "CELLUITE" :spew:
Like most of you out there who have been waiting patiently I too have been waiting many months for the ULTIMATE GMH lid...what a joke...the internal quality finish and fixing i.e. hinges mounting plates, light, locks etc etc is 150% faultless and very much acceptable......however the same cannot be said about the exterior finish and build quality...to some it up its absolute BLOODY RUBBISH. DISGRACEFUL that GMH would spend millions they have on the design of the VE ute and allow the design of the lid to be PROSTITUTED...those decision makers at GMH (responsible) ought to be sacked :vpo:

For those of you out there still waiting be warned;
DO NOT ACCEPT THIS NEW GMH LID... because the new lid is STILL CRAP

That said, I must comment on the dealer (MOTORAMA)
Management and staff have gone above and beyond the call of duty in this instant.....the quality of their workmanship and duty of care is outstanding. Afterall they can only play the cards they have been dealt....its bloody hard to turn a pigs ear into a silk purse.

An early settlement/outcome to a very stressfull afternoon will be with welcomed tomorrow.

Refer images

1) hinge end 2) middle 3) rear corner (both sides are the same)


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/agv75/LidgapatRHreartaillight.jpg


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/agv75/Lidgapatfront.jpg


http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/agv75/Lidgapabovefuelfillercap.jpg


Vlam
It was your lid they showed me today and like you say everyone there was dead set against it except the Parts Manager who states it is just one of the crook half dozen in the system and Holden will replace it.

The Manager of the fitting section, Iam told me that you are as picky as me and you would not be happy at all. He also told me he is telling all the salesmen to push the EGR lid and forget the factory lid.

Have a close look at the underside of the left rear corner and you will see either the worlds biggest paint run or a spill of gelcoat. I agree with you re Motorama though, they always go out of their way to solve any problems.

[lorry21]

http://www.mildtowildrestorations.com.au/uploads/pics/accessories_quig_animation_02.gif Here is another option guys.

[Deanss-v]

Yep Dean-ssv discription of the factory lid is 100% correct...and although I am not proud of it it belongs to me.
I am not at all happy with the quality build of this GMH factory lid as I can slide my hands (big hands) up to the knuckles at the front (hinge end) and slide them all the way around.....the lid although is new born is absolutely covered with "CELLUITE" :spew:
Like most of you out there who have been waiting patiently I too have been waiting many months for the ULTIMATE GMH lid...what a joke...the internal quality finish and fixing i.e. hinges mounting plates, light, locks etc etc is 150% faultless and very much acceptable......however the same cannot be said about the exterior finish and build quality...to some it up its absolute BLOODY RUBBISH. DISGRACEFUL that GMH would spend millions they have on the design of the VE ute and allow the design of the lid to be PROSTITUTED...those decision makers at GMH (responsible) ought to be sacked :vpo:

For those of you out there still waiting be warned;
DO NOT ACCEPT THIS NEW GMH LID... because the new lid is STILL CRAP

That said, I must comment on the dealer (MOTORAMA)
Management and staff have gone above and beyond the call of duty in this instant.....the quality of their workmanship and duty of care is outstanding. Afterall they can only play the cards they have been dealt....its bloody hard to turn a pigs ear into a silk purse.

An early settlement/outcome to a very stressfull afternoon will be with welcomed tomorrow.



It is a shame they spend some much coin on a new ute, only for one of its most wanted accessories to be crap. Well after this im glad i went EGR. Monday is fitting day, so i hope its good.

[vessute08]

Does anyone know if the egr lids are meant to be waterproof??? I've had mine and where it sits at the front the have put the rubber seals on the outside of the lid, hard up against the rear window. Which means driving in rain is somewhat ok but as soon as you stop and open it or wash it, water pours in

[SSV366]

The rubber seal is ment to be on the inside of the hard lid, hard against the hinges.

[AussieTone]

Does anyone know if the egr lids are meant to be waterproof??? I've had mine and where it sits at the front the have put the rubber seals on the outside of the lid, hard up against the rear window. Which means driving in rain is somewhat ok but as soon as you stop and open it or wash it, water pours in

As SSV366 says The rubber seal is ment to be on the inside of the hard lid, hard against the hinges. Also, if you look at the tailgate where the hinges fit you will see Holden do not have a rubber strip there. It need a section of rubber put over both hinge areas. Hard to describe but once you look at your open tailgate you will see what I mean.

[SSV366]

As SSV366 says The rubber seal is ment to be on the inside of the hard lid, hard against the hinges. Also, if you look at the tailgate where the hinges fit you will see Holden do not have a rubber strip there. It need a section of rubber put over both hinge areas. Hard to describe but once you look at your open tailgate you will see what I mean.

Why does it need a rubber strip there?

[vessute08]

As SSV366 says The rubber seal is ment to be on the inside of the hard lid, hard against the hinges. Also, if you look at the tailgate where the hinges fit you will see Holden do not have a rubber strip there. It need a section of rubber put over both hinge areas. Hard to describe but once you look at your open tailgate you will see what I mean.

I swear holden cant get anything right. Would i be able to pester anyone to get some pics for me? It didnt look right when i picked it up but i only just thought to ask now. I gotta say im pretty pissed, they already had a complaint after i picked it up because the stupid w@n@e@ that installed it left all the metal shavings all over the back of my ute.

Their incompetence is unbelievable, sure we didnt spend 100k on the things but its not exactly church change either!!!!!!!

[AussieTone]

Why does it need a rubber strip there?

Not sure. Just quoting what I was told when I asked the Delivery Manager if my lid would be waterproof. He showed me the area and said water could get in that area. I figured it is only a few inches on each side so I'll just chuck some adhesive backed rubber across those bits.

I had my EGR (Holden endorsed product) hard lid fitted last week. I was 99% sure I would go the EGR route but went and saw the 'New' Holden lid before making my final decision.

The previous half dozen or so posts show details and pic on this Holden lid so you all know where I am coming from. Surely someone from Holden must have gotten a big back hander payment to sign off on these lids. The quality is so bad that I don't think I would put one on a Jumbuck Ute let alone a VE.

On the other hand we have the EGR lid which if fitted by your Holden dealer still has a 2 year warranty and is a quality piece of gear. It's aggressive looks may not suit everyone but no one can question the quality of the EGR lid.

I had mine fitted my Motorama and as mentioned by another member in this thread, their service was second to none. Ian, who is the manager of the department that fits all these type of options bent over backwards to assist and was not happy with anything less than 100% quality, the way it should be. His staff is in the same boat and nothing appeared too much trouble to make sure that I (the customer) was fully satisfied.

I have taken a few pics which I will post up below but my strong advice to anyone wanting to fit a hard lid to their VE is do NOT go the new genuine product but go the EGR. You will not regret it. I dare say some new car salesman will be pushing the Holden lid as they get extra ticks in the box for pushing the genuine parts but don't be talked into it.

Have a look at the pics from a page or so ago where the sad owner of a new lid has placed his fingers in the side gap. Compare that to a similar shot I took with the EGR lid. Seriously guys, I am not on any form of kickback from EGR or Motorama Holden in Brisbane but the EGR lid shits all over the Holden lid for quality.

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/aussietone/IMG_4189.sized.jpg

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/aussietone/IMG_4191.sized.jpg

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/aussietone/IMG_4192.sized.jpg

My sincere thanks to Ian and his team at Motorama and to EGR for making a top product.

[Vlam]

Aussietone you have a PM :)

[vicarious]

love mine
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/IMGP1863-1.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/IMGP1864.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/IMGP1865.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/IMGP1866.jpg

[vessute08]

Would anyone be able to post pics of where their rubber seal next to the rear window sits? At least this way i'll know what im talking about when it goes back in to get fixed

[vicarious]

Would anyone be able to post pics of where their rubber seal next to the rear window sits? At least this way i'll know what im talking about when it goes back in to get fixed

the rubber seal,from the back of the hardlid near the cabin comes down from the hardlid and as you can call it stands on its edge. At no time should it be layed flat against the rear of the window
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/IMGP1867.jpg

as you can see on the back of the hinges the black strip, the rubber is not laying flat but stands on its edge.

[Bozza_VE]

I see you got your lid on Aussie Tone. Looks hot. I'm very happy with mine aswell.

[AussieTone]

I see you got your lid on Aussie Tone. Looks hot. I'm very happy with mine aswell.

Yes I am very happy with the quality. For those who have not seen the different lids available from EGR I have put a link below

http://www.egrauto.com.au/EGRDealernet/Holden/ProductsAvailable/tabid/117/Default.aspx

[vessute08]

Sorry for all the questions, but let me get this straight. The rubber seal is stuck to the underneath of the hard lid, and hangs down to the plastic to make a seal? I've also got two small rubber pieces sitting on the plastic too. Where are these meant to live? And just to clear it up, my rubber strip is stuck on the plastic near the rear window with the 'flap' pointing up in the air, doing sweet f'all!

[vicarious]

Sorry for all the questions, but let me get this straight. The rubber seal is stuck to the underneath of the hard lid, and hangs down to the plastic to make a seal? I've also got two small rubber pieces sitting on the plastic too. Where are these meant to live? And just to clear it up, my rubber strip is stuck on the plastic near the rear window with the 'flap' pointing up in the air, doing sweet f'all!

the rubber strip is supposed to hang from the back of the lid and touch the the top of the surround of the tray(dont know the technical word for it) this is what creates the seal.

vessute08 can you throw up some pics of what your talking about?, it cant picture what you are describing.

[SSV366]

Here are some pic's of mine.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/ras22/P7190122.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/ras22/P7190123.jpg
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/ras22/P7190124.jpg

[Blown 540]

Yes I am very happy with the quality. For those who have not seen the different lids available from EGR I have put a link below

http://www.egrauto.com.au/EGRDealernet/Holden/ProductsAvailable/tabid/117/Default.aspx

+1 Have to agree with you AussieTone,you cannot fault the quality of the EGR lid and i am very happy with mine.:)

[AussieTone]

+1 Have to agree with you AussieTone,you cannot fault the quality of the EGR lid and i am very happy with mine.:)

That's what I have been trying to get across. The EGR lid may not suit everyone due to its looks. If you like the look of something is a purely personal opinion but you can't compare the quality of the EGR lid to the Holden lid. They are in a different ball park and should also be in a different price range. Holden should be paying anyone to have one of their lids fitted. The Holden lid is garbage full stop.

[RyanIAm]

Mine does not leak one bit, and the strip is attached to the ute, not the lid. I can understand why holden did this too, because if there is water built up back there and the seal is on the lid, as soon as you open the lid the water is gonna go straight into the tray! Pics of mine, wet too so you can see how it holds all the water back:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/ryanami/IMG_0915.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/ryanami/IMG_0916.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/ryanami/IMG_0917.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/ryanami/IMG_0918.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/ryanami/IMG_0919.jpg

[Deanss-v]

The only issue i had, as i got my EGR lid put on Monday. The little plastic bits in front of the hardcover were not painted properly. When i picked it up i noticed it straight away. So know there are ordering new ones and they will replace them when the others show up. But all in all very good, and no leaks.

[vessute08]

[QUOTE=RyanIAm;1288742]Mine does not leak one bit, and the strip is attached to the ute, not the lid. I can understand why holden did this too, because if there is water built up back there and the seal is on the lid, as soon as you open the lid the water is gonna go straight into the tray! Pics of mine, wet too so you can see how it holds all the water back:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/ryanami/IMG_0915.jpg
QUOTE]


This is like mine, except picture that seal all the way to the right hard up against the rear window. Right out in the middle of nowhere, doing absolutely nothing! Whoever put it on must be a genius

[vicarious]

[QUOTE=RyanIAm;1288742]Mine does not leak one bit, and the strip is attached to the ute, not the lid. I can understand why holden did this too, because if there is water built up back there and the seal is on the lid, as soon as you open the lid the water is gonna go straight into the tray! Pics of mine, wet too so you can see how it holds all the water back:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/ryanami/IMG_0915.jpg
QUOTE]


This is like mine, except picture that seal all the way to the right hard up against the rear window. Right out in the middle of nowhere, doing absolutely nothing! Whoever put it on must be a genius

how could they **** that up, it comes with instructions in the box, i have seen them its quite clear in how to fit it.

[RyanIAm]

someone needs to post a scan of the instructions lol

[SSV366]

I have the instructions and it is ment to be hard against the hinges.

[Vlam]

Hi All,

Perhaps some of you may have read about the genuine GMH hard lid that was recently fitted to my SSV (checkout link below)

I post the following information as a WARNING to all current / future and prospective buyers of the VE ute hard lids and advise that if you are looking to fit a GMH endorsed hard lid dont look anyfurther than the EGR hard lid.

I recently was the unlucky receipiant of the so called genuine lid and as you can see form the images in the link below the lid was a piece of crap no other way to describe it other than CRAP. The paint finish, body line fit and build quality of the genuine lid fitted to my ute would not match the quality standard of the average matchbox car....Those that inspected my lid at the time of fitting know exactly what I am on about.
I accepted delivery of my ute on the 12th of March 08 and I am very happy to report that FINALLY last Thursday the dealer agreed to remove the Genuine GMH lid and replace it with the EGR lid and the difference in build quality, strength, body line fit and paint finish is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the original factory lid that was removed and I am now very happy.


http://http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=82963&highlight=ve+hard+lids&page=18


NEW EGR LID FITTED :goodjob:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/agv75/IMG_6226.jpg

[AussieTone]

Hi All,

Perhaps some of you may have read about the genuine GMH hard lid that was recently fitted to my SSV (checkout link below)

I post the following information as a WARNING to all current / future and prospective buyers of the VE ute hard lids and advise that if you are looking to fit a GMH endorsed hard lid dont look anyfurther than the EGR hard lid.

I recently was the unlucky receipiant of the so called genuine lid and as you can see form the images in the link below the lid was a piece of crap no other way to describe it other than CRAP. The paint finish, body line fit and build quality of the genuine lid fitted to my ute would not match the quality standard of the average matchbox car....Those that inspected my lid at the time of fitting know exactly what I am on about.
I accepted delivery of my ute on the 12th of March 08 and I am very happy to report that FINALLY last Thursday the dealer agreed to remove the Genuine GMH lid and replace it with the EGR lid and the difference in build quality, strength, body line fit and paint finish is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the original factory lid that was removed and I am now very happy.


http://http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=82963&highlight=ve+hard+lids&page=18


NEW EGR LID FITTED :goodjob:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/agv75/IMG_6226.jpg

Good to see you have finally got a decent lid fitted. When I flew out to Sydney last Thursday I was in the heavy rain which is the first time my EGR lid has experienced anything wet apart from getting washed and I can now happily say that like others, mine does not leak.

[daVEss]

i had to take my ute back in last month to get the seal closest to the back window re done as when if there was water on the lid and i would open it, it run straigh down the back, but the seal was replaced and no complaints now

[SSV366]

Hi All,

Perhaps some of you may have read about the genuine GMH hard lid that was recently fitted to my SSV (checkout link below)

I post the following information as a WARNING to all current / future and prospective buyers of the VE ute hard lids and advise that if you are looking to fit a GMH endorsed hard lid dont look anyfurther than the EGR hard lid.

I recently was the unlucky receipiant of the so called genuine lid and as you can see form the images in the link below the lid was a piece of crap no other way to describe it other than CRAP. The paint finish, body line fit and build quality of the genuine lid fitted to my ute would not match the quality standard of the average matchbox car....Those that inspected my lid at the time of fitting know exactly what I am on about.
I accepted delivery of my ute on the 12th of March 08 and I am very happy to report that FINALLY last Thursday the dealer agreed to remove the Genuine GMH lid and replace it with the EGR lid and the difference in build quality, strength, body line fit and paint finish is LIGHT YEARS ahead of the original factory lid that was removed and I am now very happy.


http://http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=82963&highlight=ve+hard+lids&page=18


NEW EGR LID FITTED :goodjob:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s121/agv75/IMG_6226.jpg

I dont care about the EGR hard cover (as i have one and its great!!!) How the **** do you keep it so shiny???

[SPANNA36]

spill mate
would like to know who is fitting them
Cheers

[AussieTone]

spill mate
would like to know who is fitting them
Cheers

My lid was fitted by the Holden Dealer Who I purchaed the vehicle from, Motorama Holden at Springwood QLD. The manager responsible for fitting extras is named Iam and the work done by him ad his team is second to none.

To date I have experienced no problems and to be honest I do not expect any.

[SiriX]

How much is everyone paying for the EGR hard lid??

Cheers,

SiriX

[planetdavo]

The "genuine" hardlid will no longer be available. The company that made them, PRP, is the latest victim of the auto industry shutdown...

[Number55]

Thanks for the update PlanetDavo

I still love my EGR lid and am stoked with it.

The only issue i had was with the light workin intermitantly then not at all!
I had the tub cover out while installing my reverse camera and track the fault down to the so co called switch on the strut.
Basically the strut is used as a conductor to complete the circuit. With the lid open the circuit continutes down the strut, onto a metal tab then to earth, completing the circuit. When the lid closes a bit of plastic seperates the earth tab from strut. Opening the circuit and the light goes off.

All the problem was some surface corrosion on the part of the strut that makes contact to earth. Cleaned up and now all sweet.

So keep an eye on that one!!! ahahha

[Vlam]

Thanks for the update PlanetDavo.....but PRP going down will be no bloody loss to anyone....any wonder with the crap product they kept making :1peek:

[Goofie71]

Does anyone have one of the "Mild to Wild Restorations" Hardlid's for a VE and if so which type?

Any info on price, quality, pro v's cons etc would be awesome....

Thanks guys,

[DansVEPanno]

I was doing a look tonight and found a page doing a different hard cover in South Africa for the Chev versions.

http://www.smartcover.co.za/Pages/Chevrolette.htm (http://www.smartcover.co.za/Pages/Chevrolette.htm)

I don't mind the look of them but the EGR ones are still the best looking if you ask me!

[sstyln]

HSP or Bluey's

What do you think is a better build and finish quality?

They both retail for around the same price.

[Gorty]

the EGR ones are still the best looking if you ask me!

:rofl: :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew:
:spew: :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew: :spew: :rofl:

[darkssv]

Has anyone had a tuff tonneaus lazerback installed on a ve yet?
Any feedback would be great.

http://www.tto.com.au/Lazerback.php

[Tarak]

darkssv, I'd would also be keen to know what they are like, I've been waiting for a slimline one (like the original) to come out. I really want a hardtop, but I don't want a chunky EGR one.

[sstyln]

This one I've seen a few times on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/COMMODORE-VE-UTE-ARFTERMARKET-FIBRE-GLASS-HAD-LID_W0QQitemZ350148462595QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item350148462595&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Any one purchased these or know of the quality?

[RyanIAm]

EGR looks better when the ute is dumped:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/ryanami/IMG_9510.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/ryanami/IMG_9513.jpg

[SV346]

The egr's always look so fat and out of place in photos, but they look so much better in real, then again im considering trying a smaller flatter one also just because really to see what the other styles like :)

[darkssv]

Had a look at a few hard lids the other day.
The lazorback sits on top of the ute on a sealing strip. Looks a litle bit unfinished and doesn't look like it seals to well as it doesn't lip over the tray. The lid is is all aluminium and has 1 lock instead of two.
Wasn't a fan of anything crazy so i ordered one of these without the spoiler from www.holspecialparts.com.au. They are a sponsor on the forums.
If you have a look they have a subtle groove on the sides which sets them apart from the flat blueys ones. Great quality and got them to block out the badge on the back. If you're set on a flat blueys style lid they actualy supply blueys and will do them for much cheaper.
By the way the spray job is tip top, and great guys to deal with.

[sstyln]

What price are they selling bluey's lids for? From Bluey's they are $1800 fitted

[amckiwi]

Arter reading all these pages I have decided it its either bluey's or holspec

Leaning towards holspec at the moment with the free fitting in Melb causing the lean

Anyone in melb got either that I can have a look at?

Stu

[BLACKVE]

Pic of mine installed today, bought from adelaide ute accessories

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh170/impluseve/hardlid001.jpg

Cost$1600 installed

[Wonky]

Pic of mine installed today, bought from adelaide ute accessories. Cost$1600 installed

Is it one they make themselves? If not, what make please? Looks good! How strong? Is it likely to end up dipping in the middle like some of the cheapies apparently do?

[BLACKVE]

Is it one they make themselves? If not, what make please? Looks good! How strong? Is it likely to end up dipping in the middle like some of the cheapies apparently do?

Not sure of brand they are just resellers(out of curiosity i'll give them a call today), it's got plenty of webbing etc underneath so can't see it dipping(hope not). Fits really well and excellent finish very happy:goodjob:

Got good price due to being in a commodore club in sa(they are sponsors) + there was a price rise on 1/1/09($100) and i ordered in middle of december, also gave me $50 credit for old cover.:confused:(was going to throw in bin)


Not sure of brand they are just resellers(out of curiosity i'll give them a call today), it's got plenty of webbing etc underneath so can't see it dipping(hope not). Fits really well and excellent finish very happy:goodjob:

Got good price due to being in a commodore club in sa(they are sponsors) + there was a price rise on 1/1/09($100) and i ordered in middle of december, also gave me $50 credit for old cover.:confused:(was going to throw in bin)

Hey Wonky found out it's a blueys Hardlid

Cheers Paul

[sangabang3]

hey just wondering, i was just about to order my new lid from blueys this morning wheni spotted the thread on the hol spec lids. Whats everyone's opinion on these two lids? I like the moulded look of the holspec but i've also heard alot of good things about the blueys. which one should i go for?

[motomk]

How easy or hard are the egr ones to fit?

[Wonky]

How easy or hard are the egr ones to fit?

I was told by one salesman that they took about 4 hours to fit properly, hence the $100 fitting fee he wanted (which he said they lose on). Needless to say I didn't end up buying from him but given it only requires 2 hinges at the front, the struts and the lock I can't see that it would need anything like that long. Someone also told me that dealers had to buy a special tool ($500??) for fitting the hinges...... :confused:

[VEbudSS]

Pic of mine installed today, bought from adelaide ute accessories

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh170/impluseve/hardlid001.jpg

Cost$1600 installed

did that include spraying it to your colour?

[Deanss-v]

I was told by one salesman that they took about 4 hours to fit properly, hence the $100 fitting fee he wanted (which he said they lose on). Needless to say I didn't end up buying from him but given it only requires 2 hinges at the front, the struts and the lock I can't see that it would need anything like that long. Someone also told me that dealers had to buy a special tool ($500??) for fitting the hinges...... :confused:

The liner has to be half taken out also for the wiring.

Anyone that has one just fitted check the light turns off when the lid is closed, unless wanting a flat battery.
Mine didn't as they never adjusted the switch.

[BLACKVE]

did that include spraying it to your colour?

Yep(good paint job from blueys factory i think??), ordered before dec 31st as of jan 1st $100 price rise.

[SSV366]

Someone also told me that dealers had to buy a special tool ($500??) for fitting the hinges...... :confused:

I fitted mine with a mate and i didnt buy the $500 special tool, there is a tool that makes it easyer but its not needed.

[Wonky]

I fitted mine with a mate and i didnt buy the $500 special tool, there is a tool that makes it easyer but its not needed.

Fair enough - I got the impression it was used to put some anti-theft heads on the hinges. How long did it take you to fit it?

[VEbudSS]

Yep(good paint job from blueys factory i think??), ordered before dec 31st as of jan 1st $100 price rise.

so with the hinges do they have a quick release component to take the lid off if needed? i want a lid eventually but only if its capable of being a quick release as i use my ute to carry shit that sits above the side.

[SSV366]

Fair enough - I got the impression it was used to put some anti-theft heads on the hinges. How long did it take you to fit it?

The tool they are talking about is for putting a thread in the metal plate bellow the rear window, it is an air tool that has a bolt in the front of it when you push the nutsurt (spelling?) on the front of the bolt it threads on then you put it in the hole pull the triger and it crimps it and unwinds.

If your going to do it yourself it comes with an 8mm bolt and a 10mm nut with heaps of rubber washers, all you need to do is put a rubber washer on the 8mm bolt followed by the 10mm nut followed by another rubber washer followed by the nutsurt, place in hole and wind it up till it is crimped up tight.

It took me about 4 hours with a mate (that only helped lift stuff and pass stuff) from memory.

[Wonky]

so with the hinges do they have a quick release component to take the lid off if needed? i want a lid eventually but only if its capable of being a quick release as i use my ute to carry shit that sits above the side.

Most of them (inc the EGR one I'm sure) quote less than a minute to fully remove it.

[SV_60_WA]

Anybody know where to get these nutsurt's from? i have tried holden with no luck and cant find them at Bunnings/Stratco/etc.

Also, does anyone have the installation instructions they can email through? I am trying to install an EGR lid atm but dont have instructions. I can suss out most of it but i dont know if there is anything i am missing and also dont know how to wire up the central locking and light.

[SSV366]

Try a place that sells nuts and bolts, pm me your email and ill scan my instuctions and send them off to you.

on the instructions they call the nutsurts "wizlock nuts"

Damn not been able to edit double posts. read the wrong bit, they are called nut inserts.

[SV_60_WA]

Cheers SSV366

email address is gwent@iinet.net.au

Cant pmm yet as i havent posted enough times.

I will give coventry's a go next week.

[AMADR8]

Cheers SSV366

email address is gwent@iinet.net.au

Cant pmm yet as i havent posted enough times.

I will give coventry's a go next week.



Hey mate what size nutserts do u need, ive got heaps at work, ill send u some.
the only problem with nutserts tho is u need a special tool to put them in

[Dickie Knee]

I see EGR now make a flatter tonneau for VE. This is for customers that didn't like the humpy liped type. I will see if I can scan the photo I have at work.

[vicarious]

heres the egr flat one
http://www.egrauto.com.au/EGRDealernet/Holden/ProductsAvailable/VEUte1pieceSLIMLINEpaintedHardTonneauCover/tabid/154/Default.aspx

[diabolic]

heres the egr flat one
http://www.egrauto.com.au/EGRDealernet/Holden/ProductsAvailable/VEUte1pieceSLIMLINEpaintedHardTonneauCover/tabid/154/Default.aspx
They couldn't help themselves with putting bevelled crap on the top could they?

What's that bit in the middle at the back? Can't see any clearer pics there.. assuming that's how you open it but it sure does stand out..

Dan

[Wonky]

They couldn't help themselves with putting bevelled crap on the top could they?

I like that Dan - differentiates it from others. I've just emailed my sales guy to see if I can get that one instead of the old one when my new ute arrives in the next week or two.

[VEbudSS]

how much cost i like!

[Deanss-v]

heres the egr flat one
http://www.egrauto.com.au/EGRDealernet/Holden/ProductsAvailable/VEUte1pieceSLIMLINEpaintedHardTonneauCover/tabid/154/Default.aspx

Whats with the rear shade thing on the back of the cab??

[VEbudSS]

Whats with the rear shade thing on the back of the cab??


a cool spoiler

[Wonky]

Whats with the rear shade thing on the back of the cab??

Bloody ugly! :spew:

[Justin@CAPA]

Hi Guys

We have just realesed a range of slim line covers for the VE ute check them out at the following link.

http://www.capa.com.au/news.htm

Regards

Justin
CAPA Performance

[SV_60_WA]

Got the hard lid installed however i am stuck on the rubber seals, does anyone have any photos of the seals installed they can post? it is around the two corner pieces that i am lost.

Also, should both sides of the central locking click into position and hold when the lock is actuated? only one side of mine is holding down.

Cheers.

[Wonky]

What's that bit in the middle at the back? Can't see any clearer pics there.. assuming that's how you open it but it sure does stand out..

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/Misc/slimlineEGR.jpg
From EGR themselves I also received the following info: . There is no handle at the rear to lift the tonneau open.. but we have repositioned the struts so its now much easier to lift now.. about 7kg force now to open compared with 15 kg on the twin-hump tonneau.

My ute is coming with one of these hardlids as with my disabilities I need things like the built in central locking without the need for an additional remote etc..

[Wonky]

My ute is coming with one of these hardlids as with my disabilities I need things like the built in central locking without the need for an additional remote etc..

Wrong!! Found out in time fortunately that I had misunderstood how things worked and that I would still have needed to get out and push the button on the back before the lid could be raised. That would have defeated the whole aim of what I was working toward with my disabilities.

Have now gone for a $1299 lid from eBay for both myself and worknssv and then we will have linear actuators fitted to automatically raise and lower the lid plus I will be getting one also fitted to the tailgate to automatically raise and lower it too!! Before purchase we both went separately to talk to the guy who makes and sells them and were both very happy with him and his setup there in Dandenong. He also makes and/or paints parts for Holden, HSV, Ford, Toyota and BMW, so is no fly-by-nighter. I used to work at HSPO in Dandenong (GMH parts warehouse) and he certainly knew some of the buyers I worked with, so it was no BS!

Our hardlids are being supplied and fitted next Thu arvo so I aim to give a report and photos in the days after that. The linear actuators will be coming hopefully about a week later.

[Lorne Mauer]

There is a mob in Tweed Heads selling a self install kit for remote opening and closing of Hardlids (http://www.a1tintmagician.com.au/accessories.htm). Uses an Actuator on each side and all done from a remote key fob(not the car key). No idea how much, just google'd it this morning.

Cheers LM.

[Wonky]

Hi LM, that's actually the one I'm getting but via a different route I actually ended up making contact with the guy putting the kits together. I gather the Tweed Heads place is probably the first retailer set up to sell them, but the guy I'm going through is in the process of setting up others around Australia plus just opened a big business in country NSW, so I'm waiting till he has time to get back to me.

Gary

[Lorne Mauer]

Will be quite the party trick too. lol.

[Francis knight0]

Hi guy's trying to see what lid I should get from Holden for a SSV.

Does anyone have any good photos to compare the flat lid they now make to the bulker one?

[Wonky]

See post #343 above or http://www.egrauto.com.au/EGRDealernet/Holden/ProductsAvailable/VEUte1pieceSLIMLINEpaintedHardTonneauCover/tabid/154/Default.aspx. Only two semi decent pics I've seen so far. Someone told me that seen one on a car at a dealer near me so maybe check some local dealers????

I should have pics up later tonight of the $1299 eBay one I had fitted today.

[PSI 364]

Has anyone had any problems with the locking mechanism on their hard lids ? My apprentice went away for the weekend and when he stopped his lid would not unlock even with the key, had everything in the back clothes etc !

Currently at the local dealer for the last 2 days with no progress, any info would be appreciated.

[Wonky]

My $1299 hardlid was fitted today (no actuators yet so can't go anywhere unless someone is at other end to lift it as too heavy for me). Looks good to me but time will tell I guess.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/hardlid1sm.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/hardlid3sm.jpg

[Number55]

YYeewwwww...
That looks awesome wonky
Finally a nice flat lid without the locks showing....

:goodjob:

As usual

[moconn20]

Just a question regarding the actuators...
would it be possible to fit these to the EGR lid even though it has the locking mechanism, or would the mechanisn have to be disabled?

[Wonky]

Just a question regarding the actuators...
would it be possible to fit these to the EGR lid even though it has the locking mechanism, or would the mechanisn have to be disabled?

I hadn't followed this through by checking with an auto elec but I'm sure they could wire it up so no power came through to the actuators until the lock was undone and ready to lift. I'm no electrical expert but with all the clever things possible I'm sure that would be pretty simple. A relay???

[Francis knight0]

Does anyone have a some pics of standard SS's with the bulky lid?

[vicarious]

Does anyone have a some pics of standard SS's with the bulky lid?

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/diagram.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/IMGP1863-1.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/IMGP1864.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/IMGP1865.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn232/maddutchman/IMGP1866.jpg

[Francis knight0]

Thanks heaps for those pic's. That lid looks great. How do you find the vision? People are telling me it's alot hard to see out the back with that lid.

[vicarious]

no issue in vision, i just needed a lid that kept water out of the back

[RyanIAm]

Thanks heaps for those pic's. That lid looks great. How do you find the vision? People are telling me it's alot hard to see out the back with that lid.

Hey mate got your pm earlier, its a bitch to see out the back but the solution is to dump it on its bum and all is solved :D

[worknssv]

Thought i would post up a pic of my ute with a new Flat with no locks Hardlid, I got mine with Wonky. Hope you like.

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww221/worknssv/IMAG0001.jpg

Regards,

James.

[TimmyG]

:drool::drool::drool: Looks hot mate love the slim hardlids.

Cheers
Tim

[DS 248]

Thought i would post up a pic of my ute with a new Flat with no locks Hardlid, I got mine with Wonky. Hope you like.

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww221/worknssv/IMAG0001.jpg

Regards,

James.


James, lid looks awesome mate, I've been looking at these exact lids for a little while now and I'm hoping you (or wonky) can answer a question for me. It seems they over-hang a little in the back corners from the pics I've seen? Is that the case?

[vessm]

yes i like to know that aswell? ive seen corners seem like the not fully down?

[Wonky]

a) The back corners deliberately stick out a fraction so you have easy points to lift from and b) until we get the linear actuators on there is nothing but the front hinges holding it in place. They may help pull the back down but I think it is more a false impression the pictures give as nobody who has seen mine in the flesh has made the same comment. Not sure about James.

[Maluko]

Am looking at buying a SSV ute and have been looking at the Hardlids and it seems that EGR are now making slim line hardlids... http://www.egrauto.com.au/EGRDealernet/Holden/ProductsAvailable/tabid/117/Default.aspx

[steve_t]

I think the slight overhang helps stop the rain getting in too :goodjob:

[Wonky]

Have the actuators on now and they're fantastic, plus the tailgate should be done soon too! Slight problem due to the tongue and slot hinges on the front of the hardlid (nothing to do with the actuators) but they're being replaced Sat morning with pinned hinges.

YouTube - VE ute automatic hardlid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEycihJT6Pg)

Once the hinges are sorted out and I can set it to one press mode for full operation instead of hold button down to keep it going up or down the relatively slow speed won't be any issue at all (even now it isn't really an issue).


Am looking at buying a SSV ute and have been looking at the Hardlids and it seems that EGR are now making slim line hardlids... http://www.egrauto.com.au/EGRDealernet/Holden/ProductsAvailable/tabid/117/Default.aspx

They've been mentioned on here before. I'd much prefer my totally flat lid and pocket $1,000+ for other things! :yup:

[trevorturner]

a) The back corners deliberately stick out a fraction so you have easy points to lift from and b) until we get the linear actuators on there is nothing but the front hinges holding it in place. They may help pull the back down but I think it is more a false impression the pictures give as nobody who has seen mine in the flesh has made the same comment. Not sure about James.

the Flat Top slimline has slight corner overhand built in to lift , the styleline lid is about to be launched it also has a slight corner overhang ,its a flat styled design.
The Bob Tail will also be launched in a week it doesnt need because it has a Bob Tail overhang anyway.
email me if ya want details?? trevt@ozemail.com.au

geez James that Flat Top lid gives me a hard on??

trevs (me) is organising wonkys special Pin hinges I'll make a set for ya as well

the New Flat Stleline and The Flat Bobtail has the Hidden hinges as well and is compatible with the tubular actuators

trev

Flat Top in Dandenong are Now producing the VE "Bob Tail" in GRP infused sandwich , they have Lid Lok latch arrangement for remote.
Its a Flat Style and doesnt look like a Batmobile. Wonkt got his slimline lid from them

they are on ebay but the Bobtail isnt listed

[Wonky]

I've had an email from the guy with actuator kits to say my tailgate kit should arrive at Chev's for me tomorrow, so then I'll really be set. :woohoo:

Last thing I need is some kind of slide out and drop down box for my walker to sit it. When the tailgate is down I want it to slide out and then tilt over the end of the tailgate so my walker ends up almost vertical and is easy to lift out and get ready to go.

As soon as I have time I'll start a Tar Pit thread describing what I envisage I need.

[trevorturner]

wonky did ya get my message about your hinges
trev

contact me email trevt@ozemail.com.au i'll sent you pic of new flat bobtail -i havent released it yet the mold is finished and just filling backorders before launching.

if ya wanna have a look??

trev

have a look at Flat Tops bobtail contact trevt@ozemail.com.au he will send you pick of the Bob tail and styleline Flat lids (not released yet)

[red hot 270kw]

Had my ERG Hard Lid fitted today,fabulous really suits a lowered VE SS,all those years wrestling a tarp no more.:goodjob:

[Wonky]

Finally got some video! :yahoo:

Firstly, lid up and tailgate down. This was done sequentially for the video but in normal operation once the hardlid has gone up a bit the tailgate can be set in motion, thus halving the time required. Given how slow I am it's easily plenty fast enough for me!!

YouTube - Lid up gate down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNrTE873v9g)

The tailgate has had the normal locking mechanism disabled so now operates purely on the actuator. Fantastic for me with my disabilities but may be overkill for most people. However, the automatic hardlid would be great for many people, if nothing else just as a very neat feature very few others have!

Video of the tailgate in operation.

YouTube - gate down back (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmfTt2NiaxI)

[badsac]

Don't know if you fella can help me out. I've had a bit of a look around here but can't find it. Probably means it's all over the place lol.

Anyway driving down the F3 just leaving Newcastle today I saw an SS with a hard cover I haven't seen before. It was a slimline one with two humps behind the window, but what was interesting was that the rear of it seemed to stick out a little at the back kind of like the underside of a spoiler and it looked to have two keys or buttons in it facing down.

Not a great description but does anyone know who makes this lid?

[moconn20]

possibly the rubbish original hardlid offered by holden that was quickly recalled?

[Wonky]

Don't know if you fella can help me out. I've had a bit of a look around here but can't find it. Probably means it's all over the place lol.

Anyway driving down the F3 just leaving Newcastle today I saw an SS with a hard cover I haven't seen before. It was a slimline one with two humps behind the window, but what was interesting was that the rear of it seemed to stick out a little at the back kind of like the underside of a spoiler and it looked to have two keys or buttons in it facing down.

Not a great description but does anyone know who makes this lid?
Like this? Made by the guy I got my lid from. He now has a number of different designs.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/VEwrapBobtail005.jpg

[GavinO]

Am looking at buying a SSV ute and have been looking at the Hardlids and it seems that EGR are now making slim line hardlids... http://www.egrauto.com.au/EGRDealernet/Holden/ProductsAvailable/tabid/117/Default.aspx

This is the bit of rubbish that Holden sent to me a couple of days ago.....

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo202/GavinO75/CCI09162009_00000.jpg

[badsac]

Like this? Made by the guy I got my lid from. He now has a number of different designs.


Yeah that could be it. I looks very close. Who's you guy?

[RyanIAm]

A few weeks ago me and a mate fitted the retro lock and light kit for the early EGR lids. It is meant to be surface mounted with clips for the loom but we spent the extra time and ran all the cabling internally, looks mint and factory!

[Wonky]

Yeah that could be it. I looks very close. Who's you guy?

http://stores.shop.ebay.com.au/FLAT-TOP-PRODUCTS__W0QQ_armrsZ1 in Dandenong near me. worknssv and I both got our lids from him (very cheap - $1299 each) and are very happy with them plus I've been to see him a few times to get engine covers painted etc and he's always been very helpful.

Just contact him and ask about the bobtail lids with double hump. worknssv and I both had ours made specially by him with no locks as we both have automatic lids (using linear actuators - electronic rams).

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/hardlid3sm.jpg

[badsac]

Thanks for that mate. Price does look good too. Did the lifters blow the budget though? ;)

[Wonky]

$845 + delivery for the lid actuator kit which includes 2 actuators, control box and 2 remotes. You could probably put it together cheaper yourself if you could be bothered chasing up all the parts but I couldn't be bothered plus like having an extra resource to call on for installation questions and warranty if required. Due to my disabilities I also got the tailgate one but most people wouldn't bother. worknssv just has the hardlid ones.

YouTube - Lid up and gate down together (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHnlY97AMP0)

[Wonky]

For those who want an automated hardlid setup like mine the guy I bought my hardlid from 4.5 years ago has now developed his own, apparently better, system. See https://www.dropbox.com/s/xev5oxlmb9rpw67/Flat%20top%20autoremote%20lids.mp4 PM me if you want more info.

PS I assume the mods will let this post remain given no mention is made of who it is, so it's just an FYI post for those who want to know how to get hold of a setup like I have and no non-sponsor is mentioned, even in the video.