New BF2 Cobra Edition 302KW

[BadMac]

From Car advice.

Sources inside Ford have today confirmed the rumours. From what we have been told, there will be 400 sedans and 100 utes. They will be powered by a 302kW BOSS V8 developing 540Nm.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/6778/fpv-cobra-gt-falcon-confirmed/#comment-28172

Watch Bathurst this Sunday morning .You may get to see a Cobra GT do a lap of the mountain.
Pricing will be $65,100 for the sedan and $61,200 for the ute.

Latest pics from caradvice.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/gtcobra.jpg

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/fpvgtcobra.thumbnail.jpg

[tuff304]

Nice improvement, still won't touch an LS2 in a straight line :cool:

[Curtis-R]

I really really like the look of that!

[FANG IT 350]

never been a fan of those hidious blue stripes on white:spew:

[Souljah]

Is it me or does that look like an intercooler behind the lower grill in that first pic?

[Marco]

Is it just me, or is this car kind of...sad?

It's a bit like the GT - Ford trying to relive its past glories rather than moving on with something new for a new age. The Typhoon is the perfect example of how good the Falcon can be when they stop trying to relive the good old days.

It's a bit like Holden coming out with something badged XU-1, SL/R5000 or even LE Coupe. Move on.

[eldan89]

I don't mind it... but 302kw? should have made it 308 in a dismal attempt to try and upstage a HSV.

[Danv8]

Finally after all these years FPV has been farting around with 290 kw they tweak the Boss to 302 kw.

[X BC X]

i like it :eyes: modded 'phoon rims would have been better though.

[HSV271]

It's just a Ford, nuff said !!!

:stick:

[mmciau]

Is it me or does that look like an intercooler behind the lower grill in that first pic?


Possibly a heat exchanger for the water-cooled clutch!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Mike

[lowriding]

it would have been a great car - if they had released it 5 years ago...Just how long did it take them to think of this ingenious concept..the blue/white Cobra theme is just so laughably predictable .To lift its image out of the also rans FPV seriously need to step up imo.

[iloveholden]

It's just a Ford, nuff said !!!

:stick:

Yer enough said. Its just the same slow GT with blue strips..which to me look a little weird. But aye i might be a little biased. haha

HSV STILL THE LEADER :burnout::driving:

[smokiebbear]

I'm going to go against the grain and say "I Love It!". As for Ford reliving the past, why exactly did Holden call the 2 door production car released in 2001 the Monaro? Hmmmm :eyes:

[Dover]

Wouldnt the owners of gt 40 black n gold thing from a few months ago be pissed... Or feel like a hsv owner:nutkick:

[Road Warrior]

Is it just me, or is this car kind of...sad?

It's a bit like the GT - Ford trying to relive its past glories rather than moving on with something new for a new age. The Typhoon is the perfect example of how good the Falcon can be when they stop trying to relive the good old days.

It's a bit like Holden coming out with something badged XU-1, SL/R5000 or even LE Coupe. Move on.

Agreed. Then again they would hardly spend a bomb on a car that is going to be replaced in 5 months.

[HSV271]

HSV STILL THE LEADER :burnout::driving:

.... And the innovators.


I'm going to go against the grain and say "I Love It!". As for Ford reliving the past, why exactly did Holden call the 2 door production car released in 2001 the Monaro? Hmmmm :eyes:

Ok, maybe my previous statement was harsh but what have Ford produced as a new concept in the large car market in OZ over the last 35+ years, drum roll please.... The Falcon. Don’t get me wrong I would love a XW-Y GT PhaseIII, even a XA-B-C GT with a 351C 4V.... then they produced the XD Falcon or as I use to call them “Extra Disgusting” come on Ford get your bloody act together.

Holden Stopped the @ the HZ and produced the Commodore and revived the Monaro due to pressure from the public to bring it back. BTW, it even got exported to the USA, on mass or did you forget that? Which proved it was not a flash in the pan as they say... so smokiebbear, please.

If Ford Australia produce something Unique / worthy of the same history as the 70's GT... I will be one of the first to sing it's praises, until then Ford can dream and follow Holden with it's tail between it's legs like the beaten dog that it is.

Dam I'm in some mood tonight.... :rofl: :stick:

[XLR8 V8]

Is it just me, or is this car kind of...sad?

It's a bit like the GT - Ford trying to relive its past glories rather than moving on with something new for a new age. The Typhoon is the perfect example of how good the Falcon can be when they stop trying to relive the good old days.

It's a bit like Holden coming out with something badged XU-1, SL/R5000 or even LE Coupe. Move on.


Or the Monaro :idea:

[planetdavo]

.... And the innovators.



Ok, maybe my previous statement was harsh but what have Ford produced as a new concept in the large car market in OZ over the last 35+ years, drum roll please.... The Falcon. Don’t get me wrong I would love a XW-Y GT PhaseIII, even a XA-B-C GT with a 351C 4V.... then they produced the XD Falcon or as I use to call them “Extra Disgusting” come on Ford get your bloody act together.

Holden Stopped the @ the HZ and produced the Commodore and revived the Monaro due to pressure from the public to bring it back. BTW, it even got exported to the USA, on mass or did you forget that? Which proved it was not a flash in the pan as they say... so smokiebbear, please.

If Ford Australia produce something Unique / worthy of the same history as the 70's GT... I will be one of the first to sing it's praises, until then Ford can dream and follow Holden with it's tail between it's legs like the beaten dog that it is.

HSV calling cars "GTS"? Have heard that in the past, I'm sure....
Neither brand is likely to have a product with the same "halo" as the earlier motorsport derived models. Time has moved on. In those era's, Ford and Holden "owned" half the market, or more. The reality these days is far different...

[BadMac]

Not to take side but just to correct a few things here.

1/ Ford are trying to sell cars, the Falcon is tanking as Orion gains mind space. Therefore they are doing specials, 400 GT40's helped the sales figures, 500 Cobras won't hurt. It will carry them through till Orion.

2/ The 302KW is marketing, its building on the original Cobras 302 engine. Model will be nick named Cobra 302 by fans.

3/ The 302KW is apparently on 95RON fuel, which if you convert to 98RON (HSV's 307 is on 98), the Ford is slightly ahead.

4/ 1, 2, 3, 77 and 302 are already spoken for, Ford also expects some current Cobra owners to buy one with their original build number.

5/ The Cobra wan't raced at bathurst until 78, but Ford are celabrating 30 years since the XC's 1-2 finish in 77 with this (and pretending it was a cobra since they can't wait till next year for this special model).

6/ The XC cobra was Fords attempt to move the 400 or so left over coupe body shells, history repeats except its to move 500 BF's and now they are 4 doors.

[lowriding]

actually when you think about it this is a perfect clone of the XC cobra. The XC cobra was nothing more than a simple marketing exercise to get rid of cars they couldn't sell .Not much more than two blue stripes . Of the original cars the scariest feature was the venomous snake badge as most were very crappy 302 auto's .Come full circle here they are again trying to flog cars they can't sell with not much more than two blue stripes

edit - badmac got in first !

[vxclubsport569]

Or the Monaro :idea:



I have to agree, I do not see any difference than the Monaro or a lot of others things Holden puts out

[OLS108]

I Love how the Sedan looks, I really Love the White with blue stripes... Not a fan of the Ute, its has an Ugly rear end and tray.
Dave

[ziggycv8z]

I think it has 2 too many doors for a cobra

[Caprice270]

I love this car. Good on Ford for updating the Boss 290 at long last!

[muzza]

Good luck Ford - trying to sell the same old GT (no matter how many kW they may claim) - last of the old model for top $ - methinks they will be majorly discounted to move any of them quickly.

[Squish]

If they would lower the seats 1" I would buy one. Love the look but i can't see out the windscreen because you sit to hight.

I would say most of the cars would allready be sold.

[VY18s]

Looks nice, but wouldn't it have been more fitting, if it was a coupe?

I only seem to recall the Cobra, as a XC Coupe?

[vt350phantom]

I love this car. Good on Ford for updating the Boss 290 at long last!

yeah but you wont notice 12 fwkw anyways???

[BAM*BAM]

I'm going to go against the grain and say "I Love It!". As for Ford reliving the past, why exactly did Holden call the 2 door production car released in 2001 the Monaro? Hmmmm :eyes:

I have to agree with you. I think it looks great, wouldn't buy one myself, but looks great.

[Red CV8 R]

I really like this car. It is a pity its not a coupe like the original but obviously that cant happen. Power hike is a good thing to. I also liked the 40th Anniversary GT to. I dont think a bit of Nostalgia is a bad thing myself although the Monaro is a poor example because that was what the public wanted, Holden was going to call it something else. I guess HSV using the GTS tag is a god example though.

Still IMO nice work Ford.

[DaveHAT]

This is a Falcon COBRA:

http://www.falconcobraclubofaus.com/images/cobra.jpg

Not too sure this stacks up next to it:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/gtcobra.jpg


Good on Ford for trying to keep up and revive a the Boss 290 to compete with the current market of Holden's/HSVs.

I personally don't mind it nor the stripes ... some reckon they don't work on the VE's either. Personal choice I suppose.

[Red CV8 R]

This is a Falcon COBRA:


Not too sure this stacks up next to it:


Good on Ford for trying to keep up and revive a the Boss 290 to compete with the current market of Holden's/HSVs.

I personally don't mind it nor the stripes ... some reckon they don't work on the VE's either. Personal choice I suppose.

God I love the original. I was thinking about what a cool car they are just last night when watching a Brock DVD. 78 and 79 Bathursts had so many cool 2 door cars racing. Awesome!

This GT COBRA with the Bue stripes looks 1000x better then the track stripes on VE's. I dont like them at all :spew:

[OLDYELLA65]

This is a Falcon COBRA:

http://www.falconcobraclubofaus.com/images/cobra.jpg

Not too sure this stacks up next to it:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/gtcobra.jpg


Good on Ford for trying to keep up and revive a the Boss 290 to compete with the current market of Holden's/HSVs.

I personally don't mind it nor the stripes ... some reckon they don't work on the VE's either. Personal choice I suppose.

At least in the good old days they knew how to put stripes on a car ..fat and ground to ground either end of the car ....:bow:
WHY stop at the top of the bar :confused:??
IMO... Holden didn't do it right with their latest effort stopping the stripes on the bonnet ,though they got the width right..
.....as for the Fords width it looks like they let the bosses kid loose on the school holidays with a big fat felt tip marker and said go put some stripes on those cars over there.:spew:

[Venom XR]

Is it just me, or is this car kind of...sad?

It's a bit like the GT - Ford trying to relive its past glories rather than moving on with something new for a new age. The Typhoon is the perfect example of how good the Falcon can be when they stop trying to relive the good old days.

It's a bit like Holden coming out with something badged XU-1, SL/R5000 or even LE Coupe. Move on.

http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2007/09/28/28VE1_m_m.jpg


http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2007/09/28/28VE_HDT_VH2_m_m.jpg

[Nobby]

http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2007/09/28/28VE1_m_m.jpg


http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2007/09/28/28VE_HDT_VH2_m_m.jpg
That was just low. :rofl:

And warn people when you're going to show pictures like that, there could be children.

(pre-emptive zomg fugly AU Foulcan imagefest goes here).

[MaDDoG]

http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2007/09/28/28VE1_m_m.jpg


http://img.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2007/09/28/28VE_HDT_VH2_m_m.jpg

Love it!!....can you do the same thing with the VL Grp A and Walkinshaw?

I don't mind the Ford. Looks ok and its good for the enthusiast. I just think the stripes are a little too narrow and too close together. I used to have an XT GT with some mods. That little 302 Windsor sure used to rev and go.

[SteveK]

never been a fan of those hidious blue stripes on white:spew:

It all looks greek to me.

Cue Zorbas dance.


This is a Falcon COBRA:

http://www.falconcobraclubofaus.com/images/cobra.jpg

Not too sure this stacks up next to it:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/gtcobra.jpg


Good on Ford for trying to keep up and revive a the Boss 290 to compete with the current market of Holden's/HSVs.

I personally don't mind it nor the stripes ... some reckon they don't work on the VE's either. Personal choice I suppose.

I loved the original, probably explains why I love the nostrils on the Munro.

But the new one needs thicker stripes. too thin.

[Ghia351]

At least in the good old days they knew how to put stripes on a car ..fat and ground to ground either end of the car ....:bow:
WHY stop at the top of the bar :confused:??Because the number plate would block it on the narrower-striped BF .

[shane W Z]

not bad..for a ford!:)

[lowriding]

Good luck Ford - trying to sell the same old GT (no matter how many kW they may claim) - last of the old model for top $ - methinks they will be majorly discounted to move any of them quickly.

disagree ,the Ford blokes will lap this stuff up like fat kids on mars bars.It's their thing.

[FunkyPig]

It's a bit like Holden coming out with something badged XU-1, SL/R5000 or even LE Coupe. Move on.

The LE Coupe came out last year from HSV.

Why do people have to whinge for the sake of it? Yes it is to be replaced in 6 months, but that doesn't mean its not a welcome new model release. More power, R-spec suspension, limited edition that I think looks good.

The first pic is CGI, from the Typhoon ad, hense the intercooler, so don't go on that as far as stripe width etc.

[BadMac]

The LE Coupe came out last year from HSV.

Why do people have to whinge for the sake of it? Yes it is to be replaced in 6 months, but that doesn't mean its not a welcome new model release. More power, R-spec suspension, limited edition that I think looks good.

The first pic is CGI, from the Typhoon ad, hense the intercooler, so don't go on that as far as stripe width etc.

Look at the second pic of post 1. Its a real photo out the window of FPV 2 days ago and yes the stripes are accurate.

And just to add to the thread, I like it, but those white highlight mags are :spew:

[MaDDoG]

Because the number plate would block it on the narrower-striped BF .

Yes maybe...but it would like it was finnished properly if it went behind the plates. And anyway it looks like the rear of the ute has the plate at the left. IMHO

[VX-300]

I predict Bunnings will sell out of 5" paint rollers and blue house paint in the coming months.:doh:

[QIKMIK]

In the late 70s', Ford was putting the twin Blue stripes on just about everything. I know I've seen pictures of a white with blue stripes F100. Some got Phase IV running gear too. Anything to clear the stuff out.

Mick

[Venom XR]

In the late 70s', Ford was putting the twin Blue stripes on just about everything. I know I've seen pictures of a white with blue stripes F100. Some got Phase IV running gear too. Anything to clear the stuff out.

Mick

When Ford released the original Cobra, they did an F100, a couple of utes and a Transit van in the same colour scheme for promotion. Naturally the copying then followed to all sorts of things.

[tim_k]

Including a Telstar TX5 in 1984 :spew:

[Road Warrior]

I'm pretty sure I saw a white Proton hatchback the other day with those blue stripes :spew:

[M&Ms]

From the carAdvice website:

CarAdvice (http://www.caradvice.com.au/6778/fpv-cobra-gt-falcon-confirmed/#comment-28172)

"The Cobra will ride on GT-P rims with white inserts, machined face. Power delivery is reported at 302kw @ 6000rpm & 540nm @ 4750rpm

Engine changes are new inlet camshaft profile, new exhaust camshaft profile, new valves and valve springs, compression lifted from 10.5 to 10.8 still using 95ron fuel, heavily revised engine calibration…"

Max power now at 6000 RPM? The 290 used to make Max power at 5500 and was limited to 5850 RPM. Does this mean the Boss will now rev to around 6500?? If that's the case, I think there will be a noticeable performance improvement with this upgrade for a car that was always being said that it was being held back by a small power band. The extra 600 revs or so will really help this car a lot. Would love to see the Power/Torque curves of these cars...

My 2 cents.....

[McobraR]

The 302KW is apparently on 95RON fuel, which if you convert to 98RON (HSV's 307 is on 98), the Ford is slightly ahead.


actually depends, cus if the new boss is tuned to run on 95, then running it on 98 probably wont increase the performance at all.
But revving to 6000rpm..... hopefully it'll improve times, but driveability around town mite be compromised.

[BaBarracus]

From the carAdvice website:

CarAdvice (http://www.caradvice.com.au/6778/fpv-cobra-gt-falcon-confirmed/#comment-28172)

"The Cobra will ride on GT-P rims with white inserts, machined face. Power delivery is reported at 302kw @ 6000rpm & 540nm @ 4750rpm

Engine changes are new inlet camshaft profile, new exhaust camshaft profile, new valves and valve springs, compression lifted from 10.5 to 10.8 still using 95ron fuel, heavily revised engine calibration…"

Max power now at 6000 RPM? The 290 used to make Max power at 5500 and was limited to 5850 RPM. Does this mean the Boss will now rev to around 6500?? If that's the case, I think there will be a noticeable performance improvement with this upgrade for a car that was always being said that it was being held back by a small power band. The extra 600 revs or so will really help this car a lot. Would love to see the Power/Torque curves of these cars...

My 2 cents.....


Yeah, I agree with the performance being improved if the power bang is increased.

From memory the ford V8's have always required a second shift on the way to 100k's adding a few 10th's at least! ..... maybe the extra revs are going to remove that need......

[FunkyPig]

The 70s Cobra existed in part to sell the remaining coupe bodies. History repeating as the Cobra 'legend' is back to sell remaining BF's. :jester:

[Buf-Phoon]

. Love the look but i can't see out the windscreen because you sit to hight.

.

What ? The visor and roof lining in your way ?

[sh|tbmxrider]

I suppose, its just like the special editions that hsv rolled out in the last months of the VZ...the skaife edition, and the other one...

[Souljah]

actually depends, cus if the new boss is tuned to run on 95, then running it on 98 probably wont increase the performance at all.
But revving to 6000rpm..... hopefully it'll improve times, but driveability around town mite be compromised.
Compromised how? Im tipping you wouldnt even notice it. It's not like they've fitted monster cams to have it rocking on idle.

[Redhot_57]

I actually think it looks pretty good for what it is, which is a re-hash of a 5 year old package.. You gotta hand it to Ford, they certainly manage to stretch value for engineering dollar out of their platforms! Now how about something fresh???

As for the Boss 302 bit, well I was about to make some smart comment about manufacturers rating power figures to match iconic muscle car badges, then I remembered HSVs current offerings...

307 anyone? :)

[McobraR]

Compromised how? Im tipping you wouldnt even notice it. It's not like they've fitted monster cams to have it rocking on idle.

was referring to bottom end torque. its reached higher and the max power is also reached another 500 or so rpm... plus even fpv said, when the BA GT was first released, that the boss 290 was already efficient, they said they did get over 300 kilowatts originally but that they had to scale it back to 290 to better the LS1's bottom end torque.

[SS Enforcer]

Looks like it might be a good thing, not that I would spend my $$ on it but I can certainly see the appeal. The BA/BF range of Falcons look pretty good IMHO and I particularly like the Typhoons leather interior. The OHC V8 also sounds brilliant when reved hard, so all in all with the COBRA badging it should sell quite well. If there is only 500 of them I can see the dedicated Ford guys going for them.

Ford muscle cars have had stripes for years and they don't look out of place like they do on some GM cars .

cheers

[SV805]

Mate of mine has bought one which is build no 12 (he liked the build number as it also reflected the 1 2 finish the Cobra had years ago.
H eis hoping to have it in next few weeks due to earlt build no. He previously had a TE 50 which my VE SS belted around Willowbank, despite how good it;s brakes were.

I reckon I will still beat him around Willowbank even though there was a $23K difference in price....Mine has leather so only major difference is his brakes which are costing him I think $4.5K as an upgrade.

Can't see the value in a $75K drive away GT with Stripes (Although the brakes are great).

My VE SS with leather, 19" Clubsport wheels Exhaust & tune has cost me $52K.........$23K is a whole lot of difference......

[Ghia351]

My VE SS with leather, 19" Clubsport wheels Exhaust & tune has cost me $52K.........$23K is a whole lot of difference.........but you didn't buy a HSV so you're not comparing apples with apples....sure your performance might equal a HSV however the premium a HSV/FPV carries over their cheaper siblings is more then just about speed.

[Animal]

Is it just me, or is this car kind of...sad?

It's a bit like Holden coming out with something badged XU-1, SL/R5000 or even LE Coupe. Move on.

Want to explain the Monaro to Holden then ?



Holden Stopped the @ the HZ and produced the Commodore and revived the Monaro due to pressure from the public to bring it back.

Actually, staff brought it back secretly because management dismissed the idae initially


I think it has 2 too many doors for a cobra

Exactly what I was thinking, it should have been a coupe


This is a Falcon COBRA:

http://www.falconcobraclubofaus.com/images/cobra.jpg



Stilll one of my all time favourite cars, very original in its day

[Hamico]

WHITE ON BLUE STRIPS SHOULD APPEAL TO THE BOGANS.

AIN'T MY CUP OF TEA :spew:

TOO LITTLE TOO LATE......................AND VERY DATED LOOKING EVEN BEFORE IT IS RELEASED

[RAVENLS1]

Is it just me, or is this car kind of...sad?

It's a bit like the GT - Ford trying to relive its past glories rather than moving on with something new for a new age. The Typhoon is the perfect example of how good the Falcon can be when they stop trying to relive the good old days.

It's a bit like Holden coming out with something badged XU-1, SL/R5000 or even LE Coupe. Move on.im pretty sure holden did bring out a slr/5000 commodore VR or VS

[Freaky]

WHITE ON BLUE STRIPS SHOULD APPEAL TO THE BOGANS.

AIN'T MY CUP OF TEA :spew:

TOO LITTLE TOO LATE......................AND VERY DATED LOOKING EVEN BEFORE IT IS RELEASED

aint your cup of tea, but theres 500 other people out there who have snapped them up.

sold out in 2 days

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22561153-2,00.html

[GODSMACK]

aint your cup of tea, but theres 500 other people out there who have snapped them up.

sold out in 2 days

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22561153-2,00.html Well arent they the sillyest 500 people...

[BLACK 346]

Bit late for this I reckon, plenty of Ford Fiesta XR4 getting around
in this Livery for a while now. Still looks ok though imo.

[VTSSDUDE]

Yay, Ford have released another car for somewhat no point in reasoning why. http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/vtssdude/Emotions/lupie.gif

[chrism697]

well i think they look pretty good!!!

[Venom XR]

Yay, Ford have released another car for somewhat no point in reasoning why. http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q59/vtssdude/Emotions/lupie.gif


sold out in 2 days

That's why.

[EfiJy]

Well arent they the sillyest 500 people...

how r stripes goin to make them a 30grand profit? u be silly to pay that much on ebay 4 1

[Finney]

So obviously there is still 500 Bogans left in OZ with more money than they know what to do with! :rofl::rofl::jester:

[CarlFST60L]

I wonder if the 500 people that bought these cars think Ford are superior due to a 1, 2, 3 win at Bathurst :rofl:

[RAVENLS1]

I wonder if the 500 people that bought these cars think Ford are superior due to a 1, 2, 3 win at Bathurst :rofl:

"WIN ON SUNDAY, SELL ON MONDAY"

[GODSMACK]

I wonder if the 500 people that bought these cars think Ford are superior due to a 1, 2, 3 win at Bathurst :rofl: Does that mean next time Holden win a V8 race we will be able to pick one up for $15k on carsales?? :)

[chrism697]

its funny there were plenty of people here who were willing to pay extra for those photoshopped "HDT" VEs that were posted here a while ago, and they were just VEs SS' with no performance upgades and only some stickers dodgy body kits and some retro wheels that looked more like hubcaps

none of you guys are speaking with any bias by any chance are you? haha

[GODSMACK]

its funny there were plenty of people here who were willing to pay extra for those photoshopped "HDT" VEs that were posted here a while ago, and they were just VEs SS' with no performance upgades and only some stickers dodgy body kits and some retro wheels that looked more like hubcaps

none of you guys are speaking with any bias by any chance are you? haha You dont drive a Ford by any chance do you??? :) And im sure they would have copped the same treatment having wasted money on a car with 'stickers"..
Dont take it personally mate, im sure the guys are just having a dig...

[chrism697]

You dont drive a Ford by any chance do you??? :) And im sure they would have copped the same treatment having wasted money on a car with 'stickers"..
Dont take it personally mate, im sure the guys are just having a dig...
hahah no i drive an SS ute, and im not taking it seriously, i am just having a bit of a laugh.

[GODSMACK]

hahah no i drive an SS ute, and im not taking it seriously, i am just having a bit of a laugh. Good stuff... Im not a big fan of them looks wise, however seeing them in the flesh may well change my mind.. when i first saw pics of the new VE with the flared guards etc i didnt think much of them, obviously since then ive changed my tune..

[chrism697]

Good stuff... Im not a big fan of them looks wise, however seeing them in the flesh may well change my mind.. when i first saw pics of the new VE with the flared guards etc i didnt think much of them, obviously since then ive changed my tune..
im just a "car wh0re" ill drive whatever car i like at the time of buying, i dont have much brand loyalty.....i grew up around holdens so i always have a bit of a soft spot for them, but at the end of the day when its time to buy a car i look at my budget then look at every car that fits into that and i buy what appeals to me most, if that is a ford ill buy a ford.....or european, japanese i really dont mind.....i'll be anybodies haha

[GODSMACK]

im just a "car wh0re" ill drive whatever car i like at the time of buying, i dont have much brand loyalty.....i grew up around holdens so i always have a bit of a soft spot for them, but at the end of the day when its time to buy a car i look at my budget then look at every car that fits into that and i buy what appeals to me most, if that is a ford ill buy a ford.....or european, japanese i really dont mind.....i'll be anybodies haha Dont worry champ, im all over the shop too. I have owned a Mazda, several Nissan's, Holdens and a Subaru. Im as confused as the next bloke...
I had the sell the 350Z, so i looked at the Fords and Holdens.. didnt like how the XR6, XR6T and the XR8 looked the same bar the badges, at least Holden had cosmetic differences, plus all the wankers i come across while driving seem to be driving Fords, and i didnt want to be a wanker.. :)

Not to mention my Comp Insurance has dropped from $1400 to $600/year!

[EfiJy]

its media hype. the dealers have brought them all. not all have been sold. sneeky dealers try to flog them for inflatied prices

[mustanger]

its media hype. the dealers have brought them all. not all have been sold. sneeky dealers try to flog them for inflatied prices

Good call, "Lets put stripes on them and make them a limited edition" :lol:

[FatBoy]

I reckon they look great. I'd never own a Ford myself as i've always been a Holden man but they look sweet.

Anyone who can seriously claim that the BA - BF XR6/8/T models look pretty ordinary must have vision problems.

I bought the VZ as like i said, i'm 100% Holden. But the Ford was the better looking car until the VE came out...

[Venom XR]

Good call, "Lets put stripes on them and make them a limited edition" :lol:

Worked for the XC Cobra didn't it. :)