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klink
15-10-2007, 06:00 PM
hi all

came across this and i thought it made alot of sense.

I saw you, hug your purse closer to you in the grocery store line. But, you didn't see me, put an extra $10 in the collection plate last Sunday.

I saw you, pull your child closer when we passed each other on the sidewalk.
But, you didn’t see me, playing Santa at the local mall.

I saw you, change your mind about going into the restaurant.
But, you didn’t see me, attending a meeting to raise more money for the hurricane relief.

I saw you, roll up your window and shake your head when I drove by.
But, you didn’t see me, driving behind you when you flicked your cigarette butt out the car window.

I saw you, frown at me when I smiled at your children.
But, you didn’t see me, when I took time off from work to run toys to the homeless.

I saw you, stare at my long hair.
But, you didn’t see me, and my friends cut 10 inches off for Shave for a cure.

I saw you, roll your eyes at our leather coats and gloves.
But, you didn’t see me, and my brothers donate our old coats and gloves to those that had none.

I saw you, look in fright at my tattoos.
But, you didn’t see me, cry as my children were born and have their name written over and in my heart.

I saw you, change lanes while rushing off to go somewhere.
But, you didn’t see me, going home to be with my family.

I saw you, complain about how loud and noisy our bikes can be.
But, you didn’t see me, when you were changing the CD and drifted into my lane.

I saw you, yelling at your kids in the car.
But, you didn’t see me, pat my child’s hands, knowing he was safe behind me.

I saw you, reading the newspaper or map as you drove down the road.
But, you didn’t see me, squeeze my wife’s leg when she told me to take the next turn.

I saw you, race down the road in the rain.
But, you didn’t see me, get soaked to the skin so my son could have the car to go on his date.

I saw you, run the yellow light just to save a few minutes of time.
But, you didn’t see me, trying to turn right.

I saw you, cut me off because you needed to be in the lane I was in.
But, you didn’t see me, leave the road.

I saw you, waiting impatiently for my friends to pass.
But, you didn’t see me.
I wasn’t there.

I saw you, go home to your family.
But, you didn’t see me.
Because, I died that day you cut me off.

I was just a biker,.....
A person with friends and a family.
But, you didn’t see me.

THE BIKER


When you see us moving past you quickly:
Don't take offence or think we're trying to "show off". Ninety five percent of the time, we're trying to get out of your blind spot or taking ourselves out of a potential dangerous situation that has evolved around us.
Distancing ourselves from you does not mean we want to race, but that we're giving ourselves the edge we need at the moment.

When you hear our horn:
Don't take offence or think we're trying to aggravate you.
All we're doing is letting you know where we are in relation to you on the road, and we're more than likely aware of your inattentiveness to us while you're talking on a cell phone, eating, reading or involved in some other distracting aspect to
your driving. It's important to us, and you, that you know we're there.

When you hear our loud pipes:
Don't become angry and hostile toward us. Yes, some are quite loud, but for some, there's a purpose behind being loud. It's about letting you know we're close by and we're constantly hoping that our investment in this accessory will help save our lives. Our pipes are really not about our ego...it's a pride and personalization to our form of transportation.

When you see us in our clothes:

Don't become fearful of us or think us weird. Our leather jackets, chaps, gloves and boots are the barriers between loosing massive amounts of flesh should something cause us to go down...nothing more, nothing less. Safety
gear is paramount to our riding. We wear patches on our jackets, and pins on our vests. These are symbols of pride and honour within our group(s), individuals giving back to those who gave. These things bond us as a brotherhood and sisterhood among bikers. Not that we're better than anyone else, but that we have the same kind of nobility and pride in our accomplishments as you may have in the various aspects of your life. I guess one could say; our patches and pins are the decals and the bumper stickers of our involvement with society and the general public, of which we are very pleased to be a part of in our own little way.

When you see us in a restaurant:
You don't have to shield your child or feel intimidated. We have family, wives, husbands, children and loved ones too, just like you. We smile; we laugh and enjoy the moments we have. We are approachable, and would befriend you, if given the opportunity.

When you see us in a parking lot:

Don't convince yourself that we're there to "get you". More than likely, we just finished a long ride and are taking a break. Or, we may be meeting up with other riders for a charity run for young children, or another very worthy cause. We may just be admiring one another's bikes, sharing our pride with other brothers and sisters, just like you do with your personal vehicle.
It's what we do...it's a part of our lives, and we'd be more than welcome to share with you what riding a bike is all about...if you'd only ask.

When you see aggressive riding bikers:
Don't put us all in the same stereotypical category as those whose behaviour and actions would cause you to react in disgust and intolerance. Many of us do not agree with this style of riding either, and we know and understand that human nature tends to blend us all together as the "same group". Most of us don't want that title...and don't deserve it.

When you see a group of bikers on the roadways:
Give us the courtesy of sharing the road with you.
Please don't "move in" between several bikers in formation. This gets us very excited and nervous, especially when it's done with no due regard for our safety.
Provide us with your awareness of the fact that we are much more vulnerable than you. We don't want to challenge you, for all of us are wise enough to know...we'd lose that battle.

When you are turning left or entering a roadway/highway:
Look, then look again...and then one more time. For we can be easily hidden, and appear to be invisible by such things as a telephone pole, another vehicle, bright lights or the glare of the sun...or possibly, the beads hanging from your rear-view mirror, among numerous other items that are displayed there. If you see us flashing our lights at you or blowing our horn, we're only trying to ensure that you will see us before tragedy changes both our lives.

When you are behind us:
Please give us the room we need and don't tailgate us. If you hit us, we're going down...HARD! We don't want to play games with you, we just want to enjoy the ride and the fresh air, and experience that which many of you have never lived for. If we accelerate away from you, don't interpret this action as though we want to drag race you. We're only trying to take ourselves out of a bad situation if you insist on being too close.

When, and if, you experience road rage:
Don't take it out on us just because we're smaller than you and more vulnerable. Think about what you're doing and the end result that may become a reality. The consequences of your actions and choices could be very detrimental to our well being, our families, our children and our loved ones.
Yes, there are those that can tend to piss you off, however, rage towards them will not solve the issues, but accentuate them. Nine out of ten bikers will do everything they can to take themselves out of that situation without causing you or them harm.

When you have an opportunity to talk to us:
You'll discover, outside any influenced or stereotypical mindset you may have, that we are just as human as you are, just with different interests and toys. Many of us would give you the shirt off our back if it would tend to brighten your day or console you in some way. We're really no different...and we drive cars, trucks and vans too. So, meet us and greet us...I think you'll be pleasantly surprised that you'll be met with open arms.

Thank You for attempting to understand.

NefariousVX
16-10-2007, 11:43 PM
That is awesome mate it is definetly well said

CeeVee8
17-10-2007, 12:48 AM
WTF was the point of all that.....just wasted 10min of my life:rolleyes:

1340LOCO
17-10-2007, 01:07 AM
WTF was the point of all that.....just wasted 10min of my life:rolleyes:

Quite obviously you dont ride CeeVee8. If people read things like this and take a little more care looking in their mirrors and it only saves one accident it has been worth while posting it. Just about everytime i ride i have to react to some idiot not looking properly or not being aware and almost running into me, and my bike is loud so it can be heard. Car drivers should have to do driver safty coures like bike riders have to do to get their licence's. It would definatly make them more aware of what is going on around them not just what is on the radio in their air conditioned little cocoon they call their ride. This post rings so true and thanks for posting it KLINK.

JA SV8
17-10-2007, 01:24 AM
Car drivers should have to do driver safty coures like bike riders have to do to get their licence's. It would definatly make them more aware of what is going on around them not just what is on the radio in their air conditioned little cocoon they call their ride.

Ill 2nd that, i just did the training course for motorbikes and i am a more aware car driver now. Made a huge difference (not that i wasnt aware before, just alot more now)
James

CeeVee8
17-10-2007, 01:25 AM
Yes I do. Yes I have been run off the road and into the dirt because someone pulled out in front of me.

Thats the way it is, accept it. I know it might not be right but thats life and the risk you take when you get on a bike.

Do you really think many 66yo Grandmothers are going to do a rider training course just to get a riders perspective ?

I agree that it would be good but it aint going to happen.

JA SV8
17-10-2007, 11:34 AM
I think they meant that the govt should make a similar course for all car drivers ( a learners course) so they learn good habits off professionals not bad habbits of parents/friends and what not....

i could be wrong, but thats how i took it.

James

VooDoo
17-10-2007, 12:47 PM
I dont ride bikes but i know plenty that do. Some of them are no longer with us due to some of the points raised above. Yes there are some idiots on bikes but they are the minority. There are plenty more idiots in cars.

I always give bike riders plenty of room, indicate early and make sure they know ive seen them. Ive NEVER had a bad run in with one. I see plenty on cruises etc and every time, you can go have a chat, check the bikes out etc.

1340LOCO
17-10-2007, 01:12 PM
Yes I do. Yes I have been run off the road and into the dirt because someone pulled out in front of me.

Thats the way it is, accept it. I know it might not be right but thats life and the risk you take when you get on a bike.

Do you really think many 66yo Grandmothers are going to do a rider training course just to get a riders perspective ?

I agree that it would be good but it aint going to happen.

I never said they should do a rider course, they should do a driver education course(all drivers should). Every driver should have to go through a refresher course everytime their licence is renewed IMO. Being a driver for a living i see all kind of idiots everywhere all day everyday. And yes before you ask i have done driving courses and they DO make you more aware of whats going on around you and your driving skills. Anyone that thinks their driving cannot be improved should not be on the road.

klink
17-10-2007, 03:37 PM
WTF was the point of all that.....just wasted 10min of my life:rolleyes:

I'm so sorry to have wasted your 10 minutes of your life. if you didnt find it funny or were unable to relate to it why didnt you stop after 2 minutes and save the other 8mins.


Seriously though,
It was put up for a bit of humor that most riders could relate to and maybe find amusing.
And if it managed to make some people think about bike riders and sharing the road and save just 1 life or injury then it has obviously worth the effort i went to to share it with other people.

i dont want a Sh*t fight as that was not the inteded purpose, obvious what the rest of the people above this post find amusing or could relate to, you could not, thats fine.

As you have riden a bike you must be the luckiest man alive not to have experience or relate to it.

Ride safe

Smitty
17-10-2007, 04:46 PM
having ridden for 34 years
I can relate to what klinks on about..... :)


and a suggestion..I think everyone should have a look at the latest TAC ads
...'bout not concentrating or being distracted while attempting to steer 1½
tonne of steel along a road at speed..it hopefully may make a point

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Distracted Drivers Are Dangerous Drivers

The Minister for the Transport Accident Commission (TAC), Mr Tim Holding, today launched a new public education campaign warning that distracted drivers were putting lives at risk.

Mr Holding said new research showed that Australian drivers engaged in a distracting activity on average once every six minutes – activities which frequently resulted in driving errors and road crashes.
“The TAC’s latest public education campaign sends a clear and unambiguous message that distracted drivers are dangerous,” Mr Holding said.

“Driving is a complicated task that requires full attention. Being distracted for even a second can lead to a crash.”
Mr Holding said driver distraction could be grouped into two categories: technology-based (mobile phones, entertainment and navigation systems); and non-technology based (talking to passengers, eating, drinking and smoking).

“Research shows that drivers using a hand held mobile phone are four times more likely to be involved in a crash,” he said. “Alarmingly, 30 percent of people surveyed admitted to sending text messages while driving, with one in six drivers doing so regularly.” Mr Holding said that while mobile phones were a major form of distraction other activities could be just as dangerous.

Research by The George Institute for International Health and The University of Western Australia, reported that during a driving trip:
72% of drivers will display a lack of concentration;
69% will adjust in-vehicle equipment;
58% are distracted by outside events, objects or people; and
40% talk to passengers.

“Every day on our roads, drivers are answering calls or sending text messages while driving,” Mr Holding said.
“The community no longer accepts actions that put people’s lives in danger – whether that’s drink driving, speeding or hoon behaviour. Nor will we accept drivers talking on hand-held mobile phones or failing to concentrate while behind the wheel.”



...pinched from the TAC website



cheers
Smitty