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HSV Listy
11-11-2007, 11:25 AM
This is what I ended up with. Tested at the motorkhana last night. Worked a treat. Zero vibrations and real steady even on handbrake slides.
I used the existing camera tripod I got with the camera. Alloy tube and U bolts from Bunnings. Couple of holes. All good. Took about 20min to make and mount up so real easy. Support from all sides and doesnt vibrate at all from the head rest.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/IMG_2696.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/IMG_2698.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/IMG_2699.jpg

VXEXEC350
11-11-2007, 01:30 PM
cool, can we see the vid?

Mungrel
11-11-2007, 08:48 PM
Looks good man,

heres one i made a few months back for my ute.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/fpv_eta/General/CM7.jpg
Bolts straight into where the child safety seat hook thing is behind the passenger seat :)

Haven't tried it out at the racetrack yet, but under normal driving its fine :)

HazzaHSV
11-11-2007, 09:31 PM
Wow. That's a work of art.

I went for the simpler option with one of these. Created by Bomi and LSX427 on TC.

http://users.tpg.com.au/hazzahsv/CameraMount.jpg

Mungrel
11-11-2007, 10:14 PM
we're a creative bunch aren't we? :D hehe

I like the headrest one.
Unfortunately there's not enough room in the cab of a ute for the tripod setup

UCNUNV
11-11-2007, 10:41 PM
The tripod setup looks like it would be destracting, in a manual atleast I think my elbow would constantly bash it...

michaels1v8
11-11-2007, 11:03 PM
what about wedging the camcorder between the seat and the headrest? Not sure if it would have fit but just an idea.

Mungrel
11-11-2007, 11:12 PM
what about wedging the camcorder between the seat and the headrest? Not sure if it would have fit but just an idea.

not a good idea unless you can stop it from sliding backwards and forwards / side to side.

HSV Listy
12-11-2007, 08:39 AM
The tripod does not get in the way at all, no hitting elbows or anything. I am 6'9 and about 140kg so I need all the room I can get and the seat is back as far as it goes. Even swinging the wheel at great knots between witches hats.
The video: I am fighting to get the vid downloaded. I think I downloaded it from the camera to CD in DVD format so photobucket wont recognise the extension. I will see one of our IT tecs today to get it changed over somehow so I can download it.

wagnman
12-11-2007, 12:11 PM
The tripod does not get in the way at all, no hitting elbows or anything. I am 6'9 and about 140kg so I need all the room I can get and the seat is back as far as it goes. Even swinging the wheel at great knots between witches hats.
The video: I am fighting to get the vid downloaded. I think I downloaded it from the camera to CD in DVD format so photobucket wont recognise the extension. I will see one of our IT tecs today to get it changed over somehow so I can download it.

6'9 and 140kg?

Your a fricken big bastard arnt ya!:shock:

Im 6'5 and 115kg and most people call me a big mongrel but Id look small standing next to you.

LSX-438
12-11-2007, 01:40 PM
what about wedging the camcorder between the seat and the headrest? Not sure if it would have fit but just an idea.

this method works surprisingly well!

Here's a video showing results:
YouTube - Wakefield Park (##############.au) November 27, 2006 - Chasin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8sX_7uXcak)

(action doesnt start until the 2 min mark though)

This mount method yields extremely well insulated vision, next to zero vibration. If you do squish the camera in the headrest, you might want to tether it using the headrest post (with the camera hand grip thing).

Muscrat
12-11-2007, 01:58 PM
Why not remove the headrest and construct a mounting bracket with two tubes that slide into the holes for the headrest. Possibly can be mounted in rear also if holes are standard size.


Steve.

HazzaHSV
12-11-2007, 02:32 PM
Yeah does work well dunc, but the point of view is a bit low I think. Your headrest mount would allow you to raise it a fair bit and centre it a bit and the footage would look much better from higher up I reckon.


this method works surprisingly well!

Mungrel
12-11-2007, 02:32 PM
Why not remove the headrest and construct a mounting bracket with two tubes that slide into the holes for the headrest. Possibly can be mounted in rear also if holes are standard size.


Steve.

Another good idea.
One thing i've noticed is particularly with older seats, they can get a bit of back and forward 'play' in them, so each time you step on the accelerator or brake, there will be a small tilt forward.

One other bit of advice, is if you're doing night time filming, it may be best to set the camera on manual focus.

HSV Listy
12-11-2007, 02:38 PM
I have a race day on the 25 Nov I will be doing more testing on this set up again so I will be adjusting the height a bit, zoom and changing the direction just showing the gauges for a lap or two.
There is also these ones on the web page below I was going to buy but not sure on quality or if you would be allowed to take it on the track. Would be cool as any glass surface it can be mounted on and it covers a big angle. Mainly for those who don't want the hassle. Seems like a reasonable price.

http://www.dvdirect.com.au/shop/prod/panavise-809-camera-clamp-with-suction.html

Mungrel
12-11-2007, 02:59 PM
Looks alrite, another site you can try is
www.stickypod.com

Shane (saj) uses one of these, seems to hold one well.
Can't remember which one he's got though.

HSV Listy
12-11-2007, 03:19 PM
Finally got the video sorted out.

Igor the commentary and talk rubish. Just tiny little scrape on the hard corners. Sounded allot worse than in reality so no track damage or anything like that.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/th_MotorkahnaDay.jpg (http://s139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/?action=view&current=MotorkahnaDay.flv)

Firebug
12-11-2007, 03:41 PM
Another good idea.
One thing i've noticed is particularly with older seats, they can get a bit of back and forward 'play' in them, so each time you step on the accelerator or brake, there will be a small tilt forward.

One other bit of advice, is if you're doing night time filming, it may be best to set the camera on manual focus.

I was thinking that too. But if that is the case, some rope or a ratchet style luggage strap from the headrest bracket to the child seat mount on the parcel shelf tightened just enough to steady the seat should do the trick... :)

Mungrel
12-11-2007, 03:47 PM
I was thinking that too. But if that is the case, some rope or a ratchet style luggage strap from the headrest bracket to the child seat mount on the parcel shelf tightened just enough to steady the seat should do the trick... :)

good idea.
That would work.

HSV Listy
25-02-2008, 01:46 PM
My initial trial of the first design did work and did not work. I found if no one was in the passenger seat that the vibration was pretty high and you would need a anti vibration camera.

Next outing I am trialling this set up. It actually is way easy to install. the tripod is set up the same way.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q298/bigtony20062007/P1010370.jpg

saj
25-02-2008, 03:25 PM
Looks alrite, another site you can try is
www.stickypod.com

Shane (saj) uses one of these, seems to hold one well.
Can't remember which one he's got though.

Yeah the sticky pod works well. This is out of my ute
YouTube - Collie track day #2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuINeIockPg)
and this is out of a ve sedan
YouTube - Daz-RED R8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V88yng4pWc8)
You can stick them any were and they never fall off.

shrapss
25-02-2008, 07:33 PM
how hard was that to make mungrel, i'm looking to do something similar for my ute.

Mungrel
25-02-2008, 07:47 PM
was easy to make mate.
I scored the metal from my old work, did the welding myself and cut some strips of rubber mat for the vibration absorber.

I'm not sure how good it will work on a race track though. I noticed on the trip over from w.a i had it setup, and after too many consecutive bumps the camera would spit the dummy and stop recording :lol:

Whenever i go to the track though i'll test it out and post results. :)

all in all though, easy to make, i've still got my plans etc i think if ya want me to email them to you? Just PM me if ya want them.

Souljah
29-02-2008, 02:34 PM
Wow. That's a work of art.

I went for the simpler option with one of these. Created by Bomi and LSX427 on TC.

http://users.tpg.com.au/hazzahsv/CameraMount.jpg

Thats the same idea as i went with. Works well with very little vibration visible in the video although my camera seems to amplify some vibration when you play the video back.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v365/brendo/My%20Ute/th_WSID30-1-08005.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v365/brendo/My%20Ute/?action=view&current=WSID30-1-08005.flv)

Quality isn't too bad for a 4 year old camera. And be nice ppl, was only the second time out haha.

Smitty
29-02-2008, 04:06 PM
in car camera mounts?
I would chk before lobbing up to a CAMS sanctioned event
where you are scrutineered

CAMS tightened up the camera regs from Jan 1 2008
and have foreshadowed much tougher regs again from
Jan1 2009
see -
http://www.camsmanual.com.au/techdocs/T-401[1].pdf

hth

Souljah
01-03-2008, 05:49 PM
Smitty, its only illegal if you get caught ;)
But its good to know that they are tightening the regs.

Tre-Cool
01-03-2008, 06:56 PM
Does anyone's camcorder utilise dvd recording or is everything still using a trusty tape camcorder?

WOMBIE
01-03-2008, 07:02 PM
in car camera mounts?
I would chk before lobbing up to a CAMS sanctioned event
where you are scrutineered

CAMS tightened up the camera regs from Jan 1 2008
and have foreshadowed much tougher regs again from
Jan1 2009
see -
http://www.camsmanual.com.au/techdocs/T-401[1].pdf

hth
Smitty the link isn't working for me,could you elaborate please or post another link.

LSX-438
01-03-2008, 07:14 PM
Smitty the link isn't working for me,could you elaborate please or post another link.

try this

http://www.camsmanual.com.au/techdocs/T-401[1].pdf

the best mount i have tried was merely squishing a smallish video camera in between the headrest and seat. If you are worried (about it ejecting) tether it to a headrest post (i have never had the camera come loose though). This method uses the seat cushioning and provide the best dampening i reckon. Smooth vids, with next to zero shakes.

iamhappy46
01-03-2008, 11:06 PM
Does anyone's camcorder utilise dvd recording or is everything still using a trusty tape camcorder?

Sony 30Gb hard drive digital video camera here, good quality and has a small amount of motion/shudder correction. Paid around $680

Firebug
02-03-2008, 04:49 AM
Does anyone's camcorder utilise dvd recording or is everything still using a trusty tape camcorder?

Another hard drive jobbie here... JVC 30gb. We'll see how she goes today... :)

WOMBIE
02-03-2008, 04:58 AM
try this

http://www.camsmanual.com.au/techdocs/T-401[1].pdf

the best mount i have tried was merely squishing a smallish video camera in between the headrest and seat. If you are worried (about it ejecting) tether it to a headrest post (i have never had the camera come loose though). This method uses the seat cushioning and provide the best dampening i reckon. Smooth vids, with next to zero shakes.

Thankyou for that :)

Darren