Modern classics? Which HSV? Monaro?

[XR6T GEN]

Hi,

A friend of mine has an old SLR Torara. He was building it as a showcar. HE was offered $45k for it in pieces. He didnt sell it? I cant beleive it. HE bought the car for less than $5000 15 years ago. Why do people pay for old performance cars? New cars are demonstatably better. So if this is a given, which modern cars will be potential classics?

HSVs from VN up are no chance I reckon as each new model bartardises the old model by hiking up the power output. Who bought a 220kw GTS for $75k and now has a sour taste forever in their mouth?

What about Monaro/GTO?? If they dont make any more, these might be worth something years ahead? If they make a new monaro it will simply bastardise the old model though.

Ford have a good formula with the current FPV GT, keep output the same so none of them are bastardised. But on the flip side there are too many on the road to be a collectable?

Maybe a walkinshaw?

Thoughts? Comments?

[KPWISHN]

Another thread. :doh:

[andy15762003]

Ford have a good formula with the current FPV GT, keep output the same so none of them are bastardised. But on the flip side there are too many on the road to be a collectable?



Hmm Cobra 302 ring any bells (BF Falcon variety)

Wonder how long this thread will last?

[Danv8]

Hmm Cobra 302 ring any bells (BF Falcon variety)

Wonder how long this thread will last?

Probably shorter than the time that FPV finally put some more oomph in their V8's,
;)

[XR6T GEN]

Hey,

this is a fair and good question. If someone is right about a classic, they will make some serious $$$.

why turn my thread into some sort of joke?

[C4B]

why turn my thread into some sort of joke?

Because the same question has been asked about a billion times.....:doh:

[XR6T GEN]

My apologies, I did a search but didnt find my question answered. Please if anyone knows a good thread about this, please advise.

[BadMac]

What makes a classic?

Pedegree, if it raced at bathurst then it may be a good investment, if it raced in the 60/70/early 80's then its very likely (GTHO, XU1, Monaro, SLR/A9X)

Limited numbers, Many of the brocks, Walky, VN, GTSR

Was otherwise special, 356, 550, F40, GTB, Dino, Some Vettes, Some Camaros, etc (many many more), I suspect the R32 Godzilla is the one to collect right now, it is relatively cheap but has pedegree).

Over the last 2-3 years many of the 12-20 year olds who watched Brocky, Percy, DJ, Perkins, Etc race around Bathurst are now doing very well in busness and have the funds to buy their childhood dream cars, hence the skyrocketing prices. The last 4-6 months have seen some of the heat go out of the market (GTHO PH3, asking $1M now talking mid 6's).

So I'll take the bait and say nothing in the last 10 years from Holden/Ford.
If Holden did a GTS-R in say 100 or 200, then maybe. If Ford did a GTHO, maybe (after the uproar died down from the purists - in 50-70 years!!!).
GTO - No, BF cobra - No, BF GT40 - No, R8/GTS/Senator/Maloo - No, F6/XR6T (not a classic, but destined to be the VL boy racer replacement).

V8 supercars, while good to watch don't represent a purchasable road car, and todays youth have their ricers rather than old Holdens and Fords, so when they are cashed up, they'll buy Italian or German.

[PBoB]

Ford have a good formula with the current FPV GT, keep output the same so none of them are bastardised. But on the flip side there are too many on the road to be a collectable?

Do you think they had collectibles in mind when they released the GTHO? They never do except when they release limited numbers, collectibles usually become collectibles because of their popularity with buyers - and they only become worth more when there are less on the road due to thefts,write-offs, etc.

[XR6T GEN]

if you look on ebay, there are dumbos trying to sell the cobra GT for $80k +

that is just ridiculous. Just go out and buy a new GT for $62k? its actually slower than the standard GT so I dont see the appeal, the silly blue stripes all over the place are just absurd.

As soon as the new Falcon Gt comes out in a few months, this car will be worth nothing. Some crazy people out there.

So nothing really our days worth picking up and keeping. Maybe a walky?

[Phizzle]

The reason these old cars command so much money nowadays is their popularity with the baby boomers. These were the icons of their day's growing up, and now most of them can afford to buy one.

Plus it's always nice to see some old aussie muscle car rolling around and I for one am always envious of the person driving it.

And yeah, I'd take a VL Group A SS Walkinshaw any day of the week. Put some Calais lights on it and you're set. Why they weren't released from factory like it is beyond me, but each to their own.

[macca33]

........Why they weren't released from factory like it is beyond me, but each to their own.

Tht is a simple one to answer. Due to homologation, they had to get 500 cars out ASAP. They didn't have time to muck about with Calais front ends and the race car had to be similar to the road car, which is also why they put the wind-tunnel designed bodykit onto the road cars. If they didn't need to homologate under the old rules, they would never have produced a road-going Group A.

The SV88 had the Calais flip-lights.

Cheers,

Macca