Every owner of car with remote locking READ!

[UCNUNV]

okay, apparently this was on top gear, but I was just told by a mate today and can say this works without a doubt!

You can extend the range that your key will work for locking/unlocking you car... What you do is put the key against your head when you press the button. Im not even making that up, what happens is your body acts as an amplifier or some jazz.

I was at Dominos and my mate wanted his smokes, but i wasnt walking all the way to the car, so i was hanging out the door trying to unlock it for him, he told me to put it to my head, i laughed but then did it... hey pretso, the ute unlocked from roughly twice the distance it normally works. Unreal.

[VNV8]

...and now you have cancer. good one! :rofl:

[Ghosn]

okay, apparently this was on top gear, but I was just told by a mate today and can say this works without a doubt!

You can extend the range that your key will work for locking/unlocking you car... What you do is put the key against your head when you press the button. Im not even making that up, what happens is your body acts as an amplifier or some jazz.

I was at Dominos and my mate wanted his smokes, but i wasnt walking all the way to the car, so i was hanging out the door trying to unlock it for him, he told me to put it to my head, i laughed but then did it... hey pretso, the ute unlocked from roughly twice the distance it normally works. Unreal.

I bet he wasn't the only one smoking?

[planetdavo]

As soon as the school holidays started, this forum started going a little bit loooooooooooooopy!
What the f### is with some of the threads around at the moment?

[bok1]

the worst thing planetdavo is the shool holiday's have not even started yet in nsw.

[sk0690]

He He He He

And I guess he has 2 antenas built in his head !!!!

Might be that member is a spy from ..................Mars ????

[Ned_Flanders666]

I have been told that standing on one leg and clucking like a chicken works well too.

[nirvana]

i would'nt try that again the remote amplifies your thoughts and the american government can itercept them.

[Oversteer]

Ever consider giving the keys to your mate so he can get the smokes...not as technologically advanced as using yourself as a signal amplifier but i believe it works just the same...:confused:

[spank]

i dont know about every car but this definately works on the 95-97 range rovers and discovery's if you point the remote skywards under you chin and open your mouth facing the car the range of the remote is doubled, when these cars were first released land rover were concerned about the remote code being intercepted in shopping center car parks where apparently thieves would sit in a car and wait for some one to come a long and park thier car, the owner would then use thier remote to lock the car, and the thieves would recieve the signal , wait for the owner to go and then somehow resend the signal and unlock the car and either steal it or raid it, if the remotes range was short then it was harder for thieves to intercept the signal, i dont know how someone came across how use the remote in this way but it was shown to me by the aussie regional manager, i didnt beleive him but sure enough it worked

[planetdavo]

Does it work better if you open your mouth further?
Damn I'd LOVE to see a Discovery owner doing that in a car park...

[Alex(AUS)]

It definitely works with all sorts of cars I have tried - no joke.

I have absolutely no idea why ... I am sure it would be pretty hard to explain (even with the antenna mumbo jumbo because it only works with your head) ... I guess the extended range is proportional to the "head content" you have :lmao: ... just try it and post your results ...

Alex

[planetdavo]

i would'nt try that again the remote amplifies your thoughts and the american government can itercept them.
If a black SUV rocks up outside your door today mate, RUN!

[kingwalker]

if you believe the disscusion , santa is bringing you a truck load of beer and naked young girls, or sheep for you kiwi"s

[Alex(AUS)]

if you believe the disscusion , santa is bringing you a truck load of beer and naked young girls, or sheep for you kiwi"s

TRY IT!

Alex

[El Narros]

Try doing it near ur groin, the range from down there is amazing.

[planetdavo]

TRY IT!

Alex
Even if it actually does work on some cars, I can suddenly see people now sticking their Commodore keys under their chins and opening their mouths, trying to save replacing that nearly flat, barely works away from the car remote, trying to get some extra transmission distance...:confused:

[blackbettyhsv]

It definitely works with all sorts of cars I have tried - no joke.

I have absolutely no idea why ... I am sure it would be pretty hard to explain (even with the antenna mumbo jumbo because it only works with your head) ... I guess the extended range is proportional to the "head content" you have :lmao: ... just try it and post your results ...

Alex

so does that mean bert newton can do from further away again with his boof head

[Alex(AUS)]

Even if it actually does work on some cars, I can suddenly see people now sticking their Commodore keys under their chins and opening their mouths, trying to save replacing that nearly flat, barely works away from the car remote, trying to get some extra transmission distance...:confused:

Since that Top Gear episode (quite a while ago) I have tried it on a few cars and it works on all of them ... it is more interesting than anything else ... give it a go.

Alex


so does that mean bert newton can do from further away again with his boof head

I dont know ... maybe it is empty in there and it would make no difference ... we should conduct an experiment ... anyone with a really big head and a really small head?

Alex

[spank]

if you believe the disscusion , santa is bringing you a truck load of beer and naked young girls, or sheep for you kiwi"s

then im starting to advise santa on the type of beer i want and make the girls red heads because this does work on land rovers for sure, ive tried it myself, although after working on land rovers for 18 years its not the strangest thing ive seen them do but its somewhere at the top of the list

[planetdavo]

Since Top Gear is a Pommie show, and Land Rovers are made in Pom Land, maybe it's something to do with their arctic winter weather, sending them all a little bit cuckoo.

Now, I'm wondering if I go out to the Monaro, but from at least 50 metres away, put the key near my head, bend over with my @rse cheeks facing the car, then f@rt really hard, will I gain a further 10 metres over the chin and mouth method?
Maybe after lunch I'll try it...

[_MetalliX_]

This definitely works, used it more than a few times. You do look like an idiot doing it though... I just pretend I'm scratching my head or something.

[vxleather]

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

I am in Mackay car is in brissy in PT workshop.. If i stand on my roof here and put the spare key in my mouth so i can press the buttons with my teeth, spread my arms and legs apart to make as big as possible signal area.... I wonder ...

[Big_Valven]

As soon as the school holidays started, this forum started going a little bit loooooooooooooopy!
What the f### is with some of the threads around at the moment?

I've gotta say this is far from loopy, and actually has feasible backing. Your body, with moisture and all, acts as a ground plane, and to cut a long (long) story short, it directs the signal from the key much like a small satellite dish would.

This does work, works with my car, in fact I often do it say if I'm standing in a shop and want to check my car on the street is locked, often won't work unless I put the key nearer my body and face the car.

[JezzaB]

Was weird, saw 3 ppl with central locking remote controls on their forehead in the carpark of the shopping center today???


Jez

[Big_Valven]

Ha ha ha, yeah lets all have a joke but a valid point has been raised here with valid technical background... and it does work, it's not just hype and superstition... I don't subscribe to those sort of things so I'm not going to bullsh*t you.

[Brandonsdad]

Mine works from 5 metres away just nicely, so no need to do it from a mile away.

[Dane VN V8]

I read this thread and thought most of you needed help or were just on some kind of drugs but I gave it a try and it happens to work, which is cool, lol..

[LSX-438]

I read this thread and thought most of you needed help or were just on some kind of drugs but I gave it a try and it happens to work, which is cool, lol..

I tried it too ages ago and found it works. Looks a bit, um, strange trying!

[planetdavo]

I find that if a car has metallic window tint, and you aim through the windscreen rather than the side or rear windows, you get twice the distance.
Reason is the metallic particles deflect the signal a fair bit, so you lose signal strength.
This situation has a FAR more easily understandable (not to mention far more socially acceptable) technical explanation than the (possibly also true) nutty professor "human key" this thread is about, with human amplifiers, human antennas, or whatever else is going on.
Remember all, Brocky once believed the Energy Polariser had some pretty special properties too. He believed it SO much, he swore he could tell the difference, with what was basically a piece of resin junk.

[PBoB]

I think I'll just walk closer to my car, and you guys can have my share of the cancer.:hide:

[Y55-7UT]

its legit, ive been doing it for months and work as my vy has usual crap reception and it can sometimes tripple it ive done it up to about 70m away which normally lucky to get 7m, Dr. Karl Kruzelnicki (the mirco sleep champ) said it on JJJ few months ago

[OLS108]

LOL, i heard a better one, if you are away from you car.. and ring someone who is beside your car hold your key up to the phone and press unlock... and you wont believe it... the car is unlocked.... its ****en amazing..







please note.. the car was never locked to begin with.

[Big_Valven]

I find that if a car has metallic window tint, and you aim through the windscreen rather than the side or rear windows, you get twice the distance.
Reason is the metallic particles deflect the signal a fair bit, so you lose signal strength.
This situation has a FAR more easily understandable (not to mention far more socially acceptable) technical explanation than the (possibly also true) nutty professor "human key" this thread is about, with human amplifiers, human antennas, or whatever else is going on.
Remember all, Brocky once believed the Energy Polariser had some pretty special properties too. He believed it SO much, he swore he could tell the difference, with what was basically a piece of resin junk.

You're right about the metallic tint. However I don't find it that hard to grasp ground planes, they're quite commonly mentioned, considered and used in wireless technology and it's not a theory, or an idea, or superstition, it's a widely accepted fact of wireless electronics. In fact if it weren't for this, we wouldn't have foxtel, or satellite phones, or satellite internet, or microwave video links. It's a little ignorant to compare it to the polariser idea, which was hardly even hype.

[UCNUNV]

PlanetDavo: im 22 and well out of school mate, the school holidays call is over used, lets let it go. And after you wrote it off there are 2 pages of people saying it works perfectly so :flipoff:

Showed my mate today, he was shocked, his Maloo key is hopeless to unlock from any distance, but got about 10m from it with the head technique.

[planetdavo]

You're right about the metallic tint. However I don't find it that hard to grasp ground planes, they're quite commonly mentioned, considered and used in wireless technology and it's not a theory, or an idea, or superstition, it's a widely accepted fact of wireless electronics. In fact if it weren't for this, we wouldn't have foxtel, or satellite phones, or satellite internet, or microwave video links.
Does a Foxtel technician have to stand next to the transmitter with the fibre optic cable under his chin before Foxtel will work in the outer suburbs?

[CROME SS]

wow :smilesandbanana:

[planetdavo]

PlanetDavo: im 22 and well out of school mate, the school holidays call is over used, lets let it go. And after you wrote it off there are 2 pages of people saying it works perfectly so :flipoff:

Showed my mate today, he was shocked, his Maloo key is hopeless to unlock from any distance, but got about 10m from it with the head technique.
This perhaps works, and has technical merit, but if you FREAKS want to stand in public sticking keys under your chins and opening your mouths to unlock your car, you deserve whatever public embarrassment comes your way!
My perfectly healthy keyheads work from at least 10 metres away from the car, more than enough for ANY situation I need. Tell your mate to replace his keyhead for a new one.
This is STILL the sh!t kind of thread that comes up in school holidays, even if you are 22 (by age anyway). I actually thought that XR6 whatever dude might have started this one!....:flipoff:

[badnews]

yeah i thought it was bullsh*t when i first heard it. tried it with my hilux and it does work though.

[UCNUNV]

This perhaps works, and has technical merit, but if you FREAKS want to stand in public sticking keys under your chins and opening your mouths to unlock your car, you deserve whatever public embarrassment comes your way!
My perfectly healthy keyheads work from at least 10 metres away from the car, more than enough for ANY situation I need. Tell your mate to replace his keyhead for a new one.
This is STILL the sh!t kind of thread that comes up in school holidays, even if you are 22 (by age anyway). I actually thought that XR6 whatever dude might have started this one!....:flipoff:


I wasnt saying it so that everytime people unlock their car they should key their head first... I was mearly pointing out that I found it out, tested it and it worked... I dont need my car unlocked untill i can atleast reach the door so its not something I will do daily!

[planetdavo]

Would someone please contact the Cancer Council, and ask them to conduct studies on the effects key transmitters placed under the chin have on the body's cells, and possible cancer links.
This might prove to be bigger than mobile phones.

[Big_Valven]

This is STILL the sh!t kind of thread that comes up in school holidays, even if you are 22 (by age anyway). I actually thought that XR6 whatever dude might have started this one!....:flipoff:
Have you run out of things to pick on today or something?
We're discussing a humans properties as a ground plane used to direct wireless key transmissions, enhancing the range of the transmitter. I personally think it is , although nigh on practically useless, interesting discussion.

Keyfob transmitters typically run in the order of milliwatts so when compared to a mobile running several watts of transmission power and still slightly dubious claims of a link between cancer and mobile use, it seems to me to be a safe proposition.

It's not like we're saying "If the spiritual molecules in your personal space are not aligned right you will lose 20 kilowatts." It's valid discussion even if it seems trivial to you. So go pick on someone who's dealer-bashing.

[UCNUNV]

If I can drive a car with bluetooth, use a laptop with wireless, a mobile phone and microwave my popcorn im sure I can put a key to my head about 5 times in my whole life.

[planetdavo]

Have you run out of things to pick on today or something?
So go pick on someone who's dealer-bashing.


(a) No, I've got you sheep sticking your keys under your chins to pick on.
(b) I only roast dealer bashing idiots when they deserve it. The brainless fools on here are the ones that think I do it all the time!

[HSVREDSLED]

A few mates of mine did a semi controlled test of this theory and yes it does work. But...we found the worst performing remote was the good old holden product. The Mitsubishi one works a treat. It also works better if you hold the remote against your throat and yell "Ahhhhhhhhh."

And..as for the skeptics.....yep your right, it doesnt work and I will continue to take your bets keeping me in good supply of Crown Lager.

[Big_Valven]

(a) No, I've got you sheep sticking your keys under your chins to pick on.
(b) I only roast dealer bashing idiots when they deserve it. The brainless fools on here are the ones that think I do it all the time!

No you don't do it all the time, occasionally you take a break to pick on people who discover cool things by messing around. We don't care if you don't like the idea, move on.

And I don't stick my key under my chin when demonstrating this to people, even holding it to the side of your leg works. Needless to say I don't need to do it all the time because when I want to enter my car I am close enough to use it normally. Doesn't make the idea any less interesting to me.

[BLACK 346]

No you don't do it all the time, occasionally you take a break to pick on people who discover cool things by messing around. We don't care if you don't like the idea, move on.

And I don't stick my key under my chin when demonstrating this to people, even holding it to the side of your leg works. Needless to say I don't need to do it all the time because when I want to enter my car I am close enough to use it normally. Doesn't make the idea any less interesting to me.

Steady mate, we don't want this turning into another Davo bashing thread :lol:

[Big_Valven]

Point taken.

[FITZY777]

Well Bugga me !

This actually works.

Dont think I would have to do it too often, but it was good for my kids to get a giggle. I told them I was radio-active and had super-powers !

I called myself 'KEYMAN"

Cheers

[XR6T GEN]

this is the most ridiculous claim ever. put the remote to your head and it works further.... haha. maybe its his bad breath, brush your teeth once in the world.

[Big_Valven]

All I can say is try it... Actually all I could say is an advanced technical background as to why it actually works but I think all you need to do is give it a go.

[CarlFST60L]

I didn't read all the posts, but this actually works. What you do is hold the remote to your chin and face in the direction you want the signal to go. You will get a signal increase of between 2db and 4db, which is about 10/30% increase in range. (We have been using this trick when testing RF designs for many years)

PS if you think that this will contribute to causing cancer, there are hundreds of products which produce more power on more frequencies than we are allowed on remotes... Microwave anyone? What about Channel 7, 9 and 10?

Oh yeah, and your head doesn't actually amplify the signal (as you would require power), it just effects the radiation pattern and antenna impedance.

[BLAQSSHEV]

Just like when your television is fuzzy and you go and move the aerial around with your hand it goes clear and as soon as you take your hand off back to fuzz...:confused: Sounds like the same spooky shit...

[mickeyVX350]

It isn't your head, rather it is the sort of 'line of sight' between the receiver and key unit and a path of less resistance between the two....

Good ol' Mythbusters

[BLACKWAGON]

I tried it, watching to see if neighbours were looking..........worked but I found the head makes no difference, just holding the key up at high(not against head or body) was what made it work from a further distance.

[CarlFST60L]

I have a Spectrum analyzer right here in my RF Lab, i can tell you that 95% of all 433.925Mhz remote see 10 to 30% range increase when you hold it to your chin, the other 5% sometimes loose range due to poor antenna tuning. I'm not guessing, or making it up, my $20K Spectrum Analyzer proves it (which takes about 5 seconds to demonstrate)... If mythbusters couldn't prove it they were either doing it wrong or using lower frequency remotes or something else.. The other thing, its your chin, not your head. I would be happy to bet my left testicle that this works.

[Big_Valven]

I have a Spectrum analyzer right here in my RF Lab, i can tell you that 95% of all 433.925Mhz remote see 10 to 30% range increase when you hold it to your chin, the other 5% sometimes loose range due to poor antenna tuning. I'm not guessing, or making it up, my $20K Spectrum Analyzer proves it (which takes about 5 seconds to demonstrate)... If mythbusters couldn't prove it they were either doing it wrong or using lower frequency remotes or something else.. The other thing, its your chin, not your head. I would be happy to bet my left testicle that this works.

Nice work Carl. Put the doubters to rest...

[Firebug]

Maybe it works the same as a subwoofer? Better results when you attach it to a large empty container??

[CarlFST60L]

Alright, heres some proof. What you see in the video is a spectrum analyser, basically it just shows a graph of RF power (basically). You can see the peak power where the yellow line peaks, as soon as my chin touches, the power all goes up by 10db! thats double the range. I specifically chose this example as its so obvious.

YouTube - Increase RF Range by holding remote to chin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80ibQgt40g)

Again its to with the RF radiation pattern and changing the impedance, nothing else.

[Alex(AUS)]

Alright, heres some proof. What you see in the video is a spectrum analyser, basically it just shows a graph of RF power (basically). You can see the peak power where the yellow line peaks, as soon as my chin touches, the power all goes up by 10db! thats double the range. I specifically chose this example as its so obvious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80ibQgt40g

Again its to with the RF radiation pattern and changing the impedance, nothing else.

Geez Carl your car would have been going nuts in the car park :D

Alex

[CarlFST60L]

Geez Carl your car would have been going nuts in the car park :D

Alex

I have another bit of gear that could stop everything in my suburb from working that uses RF :evil: Next time All Saints is on, im drowning Channel 7 :lol:

[Alex(AUS)]

I have another bit of gear that could stop everything in my suburb from working that uses RF :evil: Next time All Saints is on, im drowning Channel 7 :lol:

EMP? :D

Alex

[CarlFST60L]

EMP? :D

Alex

Just a RF Signal generator, select a frequency its gooooooone.

[Alex(AUS)]

Just a RF Signal generator, select a frequency its gooooooone.

Bugger ... an EMP generator would be good ...

Alex

[Holden Man]

I havn't tried the key to the head trick but I can tell everyone that the closer you hold a mobile phone to your head - the better you can hear it. (if you don't believe me - then try it)

[Micks]

:bravo:
I wonder if I stare at my petrol filler cap long & hard enough the tank would fill itself.
Hey but I believe you...untried myself.
But I'm working on the Tank filling idea.

Were Back..

Merry Christmas

Cheers
VYT
:xmas:

[scoot1]

I would have thought that holding it against your chin to make your body act like an amplifier would have been the same as holding it with, say, your hand. Maybe stand away from your remote and press it with a non-conductive stick...:rofl:
for comparitive results only of course.

[CarlFST60L]

I would have thought that holding it against your chin to make your body act like an amplifier would have been the same as holding it with, say, your hand.

Sort of, there are some tricks of the trade in this area.

[XR6T GEN]

I didn't read all the posts, but this actually works. What you do is hold the remote to your chin and face in the direction you want the signal to go. You will get a signal increase of between 2db and 4db, which is about 10/30% increase in range. (We have been using this trick when testing RF designs for many years)

PS if you think that this will contribute to causing cancer, there are hundreds of products which produce more power on more frequencies than we are allowed on remotes... Microwave anyone? What about Channel 7, 9 and 10?

Oh yeah, and your head doesn't actually amplify the signal (as you would require power), it just effects the radiation pattern and antenna impedance.

Are you a weirdo?

or just one of those super nerdy guys that work at tandy

[NOYES]

gonna have to try that....sounds good

[Spectrum]

Are you a weirdo?

or just one of those super nerdy guys that work at tandy
He sounds a lot more intelligent than your posts say about thee....:flipoff:

[CarlFST60L]

Are you a weirdo?

or just one of those super nerdy guys that work at tandy

Haha, yeah, i have big nerdy glass's and wear a lab coat, oh, and im a 26 yea old virgin that wishes he drove an XR6T

[VXRacer]

Haha, yeah, i have big nerdy glass's and wear a lab coat, oh, and im a 26 yea old virgin that wishes he drove an XR6T

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
:bow::bow::bow:
:bravo::bravo:

[VTSSDUDE]

Yes your body would act as an amplifier, like unplugging the antenna coax out from your TV. Then put your finger against it, you will find you get reception again.
So I would believe this would work. But I would have to think of what the RF signals be doing to your brain cells. I think I would just rather walk closer to my car, then use myself as an antenna.

[Thunder]

My car is a pain to lock and unlock at times (and I am on my 4th key fob), so maybe I will give it a try.

[nirvana]

Are you a weirdo?

or just one of those super nerdy guys that work at tandy

:lmao: How did he guess who you are carl? :p

[RIDE:42]

My car is a pain to lock and unlock at times (and I am on my 4th key fob), so maybe I will give it a try.
Peel i/2 the farkin stickers off and the signal may get through :rofl:

[ls1ozstyle]

So is the mobile phone remote unlocking thing bullshit or not? I've lost count of the times I've been sent that email!


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[Big_Valven]

That really is crap. Reason being that such high frequencies from your remote can't travel through the phone, primarily being designed for lower frequencies (voice.)

[-Jay-]

...and now you have cancer. good one! :rofl:


absolute ROFL

[Thunder]

Peel i/2 the farkin stickers off and the signal may get through :rofl:

Don't you try it.
The grey matter between your ears would confuse the signal and it would open a Ford Ute instead!!! :)

Cheers
Greg

[CarlFST60L]

So is the mobile phone remote unlocking thing bullshit or not? I've lost count of the times I've been sent that email!


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On the current GSM network, no way. I could write a 500 page text book on reasons why it wouldnt work. And 1 page on why it could possible work.