VE Airconditioning - recirculate problem

[Tommo1982]

Back again with another problem

When I select the "inside air" option on my VE, it seems to be faulty. There is a noticeable improvement in the reduction of fumes from outside the car, but there is still a significant amount entering the cabin (good example is when travelling in a tunnel).

It's almost like the flap is half closing, because while I can still smell fumes coming from the vents it is reduced from 'outside air'.

Has anyone else found this in their car? Is it normal operation?

I just want to avoid having some dealer drone pull the dash out to try and 'troubleshoot' (for want of a better word) the issue.

Thanks.

[Harvs82]

Back again with another problem

When I select the "inside air" option on my VE, it seems to be faulty. There is a noticeable improvement in the reduction of fumes from outside the car, but there is still a significant amount entering the cabin (good example is when travelling in a tunnel).

It's almost like the flap is half closing, because while I can still smell fumes coming from the vents it is reduced from 'outside air'.

Has anyone else found this in their car? Is it normal operation?

I just want to avoid having some dealer drone pull the dash out to try and 'troubleshoot' (for want of a better word) the issue.

Thanks.

I'd suggest that you have a faulty servo device on the recirculate flap/cover... It could also be a vacuum problem with said servo... If you explain your issue to Holden surely they can work that out... there is a diagnostic mode that the climate control can be run in, which MAY show an error, but its probably easier to physically check. On my VS when you pressed the recirc button, a cover would open up on top of the fan, so it would pick up the interior air behind the glovebox area, and then once back on fresh, the cover would go back down on the fan so it would suck air in from outside, so I would assume this is not happening fully in your case.

[bok1]

in winter up here in the mountains we would put recurculate on to stop the smell of the house fires coming into the vessv and we would still be able to still have the smell of the fires also come into the car.on the vx there is no smell at all.i also will be asking service dep to have a look.

phil

[BlownVR]

My VE R8 has the same issue. It isn't too bad and is obviously mostly recirculating but I still get a slight whiff of exhaust fumes sitting at the lights. It hasn't bothered me enough to do anything about it.

[vasyd]

Back again with another problem

When I select the "inside air" option on my VE, it seems to be faulty. There is a noticeable improvement in the reduction of fumes from outside the car, but there is still a significant amount entering the cabin (good example is when travelling in a tunnel).

It's almost like the flap is half closing, because while I can still smell fumes coming from the vents it is reduced from 'outside air'.

Has anyone else found this in their car? Is it normal operation?

Thanks.

I have exactly the same problem. Keep on forgetting to mention it at previous services. Will get it looked at 30K service.

[Guyver1]

Just got my car serviced and I mentioned this issue to the dealer. Their response is this is a feature, the vent opens half way to let fresh air in after it has been on recycle for a period of time. Apparently it is written in the hand book if you can be bothered looking it up.

[GODSMACK]

Back again with another problem

When I select the "inside air" option on my VE, it seems to be faulty. There is a noticeable improvement in the reduction of fumes from outside the car, but there is still a significant amount entering the cabin (good example is when travelling in a tunnel).

It's almost like the flap is half closing, because while I can still smell fumes coming from the vents it is reduced from 'outside air'.

Has anyone else found this in their car? Is it normal operation?

I just want to avoid having some dealer drone pull the dash out to try and 'troubleshoot' (for want of a better word) the issue.

Thanks. Ive had my VE in for this issue twice, both time they said they tested it and that they couldnt fault it...

My cabin had a noticable smell of fumes when driving behind a truck/bus etc. Im at the point where I have given up, and will just put up with the smell.

[ryno]

My recirc doesn't seem to work either...

There was a bad smell in my car and after blaming it on the passenger farting,:spew: I realised it was the swampy area I was driving through..

I also noticed it with all the fires that we are having in the west, that it is getting into the cabin and im not even close to the fire, just what was in the air..

Will ask more about it at next service. I do recall seeing something that in the climate controlled veihcles the vent opens periodically to let fresh air in as to prevent the air int he cabin from going stale.. not sure how true this is though.

[mac06]

It could also be a vacuum problem with said servo...

The vacuum system was changed to electronic from VE on so that wouldn't apply.

How it works is that when the outside air temp is below 35C then the recirculation will work for 15 mins and then open 30% to allow some fresh air into the cabin. Above 35C it will recirculate for 30mins and open 30%. After 10 mins it will close again. That's to stop people driving around on recirc all the time and going to sleep through lack of oxygen.

I would imagine that if you smell fumes from following a truck then try deactivate and then reactivate the recirc to try break the cycle. I haven't tried it myself, but can't see any reason why it wouldn't work.

[youngstar]

I do remember browsing something about this in the manual. It does still suck some outside air as you do need some fresh oxygen entering the cabin. Otherwise over time the cabin would just fill up with your carbon dioxide and that would be no good ! :weirdo:

[EvokeWM]

It also has the "design feature" of going to fresh air if its in recirculate mode and the fan is turned down to zero.


Just got my car serviced and I mentioned this issue to the dealer. Their response is this is a feature, the vent opens half way to let fresh air in after it has been on recycle for a period of time. Apparently it is written in the hand book if you can be bothered looking it up.

So that's why it doesn't seem to stay closed on my WM Caprice. Guess I should read the manual :doh:

[Brandonsdad]

I do remember browsing something about this in the manual. It does still suck some outside air as you do need some fresh oxygen entering the cabin. Otherwise over time the cabin would just fill up with your carbon dioxide and that would be no good ! :weirdo:

Thats only with the air conditioner off. Fresh air will always come in. I dont know about everyone else, but if I want fresh air coming into the car I put my window down, otherwise I dont want any air blowing on my feet or face whilst Im driving.

[HSV Listy]

It is on another thread but when I hired a statesman it had the exact same issue. I tried it serveal times and there was absolutly no difference on smell. It did not do stuff all. I got back and drove my own car when i got home and was following a smelly car, I hit the recirculation button it is stopped almost completly. There must be some fault and the VZ never had the issue ever reported that I am aware of. I reported it to the hire company and they said they everone who hires it says the same thing. Holden said no fault to them.

[GODSMACK]

This is another thing i have noticed...

In all the other cars ive owned (350z, VT Commo, Accord Euro), when you have the recirc button depressed i.e you allow air to flow from outside the vehicle (fan off), that moving the temperature knob still alters the temp of the air coming through the vents. This doesnt occur in my VE..

Just incase u r confused (LOL), turn ur aircon on, wait till the air is cold, turn the A/c off, quickly depress the button so air flows from outside the car, and turn the knob to HOT.. The air, although will change in temp seeing as the a/c is off, wont actually blow HOT air which it should.

Leave it on hot, and turn the fan on, and u will notice immediately that the air goes hot real quick..

Did i make sence?

[HOLDAN]

Back again with another problem

When I select the "inside air" option on my VE, it seems to be faulty. There is a noticeable improvement in the reduction of fumes from outside the car, but there is still a significant amount entering the cabin (good example is when travelling in a tunnel).

It's almost like the flap is half closing, because while I can still smell fumes coming from the vents it is reduced from 'outside air'.

Has anyone else found this in their car? Is it normal operation?

I just want to avoid having some dealer drone pull the dash out to try and 'troubleshoot' (for want of a better word) the issue.

Thanks.

I have the same problem. When I smell the fumes, I just push the recirc button to open and then push it again to close it and the fumes stop coming in.

[Gixxernz]

This is a late post to this thread, but nobody seems to have mentioned the "pollution mode" on the A/C of an SSV. If you hold in the A/C AUTO button for 3 seconds, the system goes into POLLUTION mode and this displays on the LCD screen. It does this.....if you are travelling at less than about 10klm/h then the A/C assumes you are in a traffic jam, or are virtually stationery, and automatically goes into recirculation mode to stop fumes from the vehicle in front of you from entering the cabin. It reverts to outside air as soon as you are moving again. It works really good too! :-)

[Gixxernz]

Whoops, got that wrong :bawl:- hold in the RECIRC button for 3 seconds to go into POLLUTION mode.

[singo79]

Champion! I have only just started to read this thread and I obviously came in at the right time as you have hit the nail on the head. I have tried this and this seems to help quite significantly.

Thanks heaps :)