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aquabat
02-01-2008, 09:25 AM
Howdy,

Over the past few months my gearbox has been playing up! 3rd and 4th were the first to let go, which I noticed after a few runs at the drags when the box started slipping into 3rd (Still leading me to 13.4 with a crappy box!) The box held on like this for a while and the car could still be driven in a sensible manner, which led me to continue to do so. Over time, the box wouldn't select 'D' but would only take off when put back into '1', then select 'D' once I was going. The car stayed like this for a little while with 1st and 2nd both holding on strongly, but yesterday, a shift into 2nd at higher revs seen the box go 'bang' in traffic.

Unfortunately, the only gear my car will select now is reverse!

First of all, I had the box checked out/ diagnostic system plugged in when it first started not selecting 'D' as there was some thought that it could have been electrical/ computer related, but there was no engine light on the dash, and no codes came up through the diagnostic system, which led us to think that it was simply mechanical. Would you's agree with this statement?

Obviously now, I am after a new box, but I am undecided as to wether I should go with..
a) The 4L65E as I have a 3600rpm stall sitting under my bed to suit a 4L60E box, unfortunately it never made it to installment time! Will this fit into a 465LE box?
b) The 4L60E and 4L65E boxes are both $1721 from the holden shop in Townsville. These boxes are re-manufactured with a 2 year warranty, but are obviously not brand new. This price includes freight.
c) I do like to give my car a good squirt here and there, so would it be worth going with alot stronger box? My friend obtained a 465LE from Craigs Automatics in Sydney for $3600ish that's been abesolutely beefed up and another mate went with a box from Gilroys Automatics in Toowoomba for around the same price which is rated to 900-1000HP. Should I be looking at an option like this, so that I hopefully never have to get another box while I have the car? Would a modified/ strengthened 4L60E even be a good option? OR, would a brand new, standard 4L65E be suffice for the job I am looking for it to do?

I have money for any of the options, I just want to try and replace it fast!

Thanks in advance for any of your advice/ opinions!

Jason.

SS Enforcer
02-01-2008, 09:52 AM
Holmart have new 4l60e for $1399 and the 4l65e for $1650 with convertor and flywheel included. They may split em for an even cheaper price.

cheers

aquabat
02-01-2008, 10:03 AM
I was just reading that about 2 or 3 minutes after I posted the thread. Well, would it be worth it, if I was to go with one or the other? Or should I look at something with a little more internal work?

Also, has anyone got the phone number to Craigs Automatics, I would like to give him a ring as I have read nothing but positive comments about his work!

Jason.

Brass Munky
02-01-2008, 10:11 AM
One of the adelaide members put the 4L65E i think into his statesman and loved it, said it changed the car as a whole..... but thats about as far as my input into this matter goes really......

smokiebbear
02-01-2008, 10:16 AM
Homart are away until the 7th January though so if you need them asap you may need to look somewhere else:(

Trek52
02-01-2008, 02:29 PM
I have been down this track just call craig and order a box, no more worries. easy.

WAVESS
02-01-2008, 08:15 PM
How much power is the box expected to cope with? Can you give any more specs on the car? Besides "a bit of a squirt" what sort of driving will it need to perform?

aquabat
02-01-2008, 08:39 PM
The car will have a 232/242 Comp Cam with PSI valvesprings done at the same time as the box being put in with the 3600rpm Stall. I am hoping to make around 300rwkw but the car will also be copping a shot of the 'good stuff' and I'd also like to do heads in the future, but that's not currently on the cars. So say anywhere between 300 - 400rwkw in the future, is what I would like the box to handle.

Jason.

VooDoo
02-01-2008, 08:48 PM
Get a box from Craigs. No more problems especially if your going a decent bump stick.

blacksv8
02-01-2008, 08:56 PM
Had mine rebuilt at Sureshift in Brisbane when it died. Havnt had a problem with 350rwkw.

2 modit
02-01-2008, 09:13 PM
i went through 2 boxes before i had my box done by craigs and i havent had a problem since they are very good

whinternational
10-01-2008, 03:28 PM
One of the adelaide members put the 4L65E i think into his statesman and loved it, said it changed the car as a whole..... but thats about as far as my input into this matter goes really......

Yeah Doc that was I. I picked up a low kay 4L65E for my stato and fitted it along with 10ish litres of Transmax Z. Was an excellent swap but unfortunately six months and about 20000kms later same problem! Second gear starts to slip then no second at all! Admittedly i flogged the ring out of the old 4L60E box but i am a bit pissed cause i've been really nice to this one. I'd spend the cash if i had my way over again and get a box built.

I've done some research on some USA sites and they seem to just be fitting shift kits and increasing the number of clutches......good luck mate.

aquabat
10-01-2008, 04:19 PM
I brought a 4L65E box from Craigs Automotive. :D

Should be in town next Friday I am told, and be VERy legit with the 3600RPM stall that I have! :D

I will let you's know!

Jason.