Holden Captiva MaXX - MAJOR MECH FAULTS

[Flat - MaXX]

Faults would be a poor discription - At the end of Novemeber I got my new MaXX - Impresive - YES. BUT!!! at 2464 Km (HAD NOT EVEN MADE THE FIRST SERVICE) the Auto Transmission was stuck in 4th Gear, whilst the gear stick was in Drive, would it go into Park, NO, Reverse, NO, would it start NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!.:flipoff:

This all occured on a Sunday 6 Jan 2008. So I ring Holden Roadside Assist - and what do I get - NOTHING. Holden went on holidays in December and so did their computers - my vehicle details were not in ANY database - so did I receive Roadside Assistance - Only through my own RACQ Plus Membership, from HOLDEN I got nothing but the Holden two foot shuffle.:flipoff:

So what was the cause of my problems - well it was a 50 cent orange plastic clip that (Theoretically) secured the selector shaft to the center console. :flipoff:

By the way this happen 400 km from home and the place of purchase.

Did the local Holden dealership fix it, NO, could they fix it - NO!!!:flipoff:

They did a "temp repair" - this consisted of a cable tie wrapped arround the housing and the selector shaft. And then told "It should get you home" "?????", and "you should take it to your service center as soon as you get home"

Classic Comments from the service department up north - And how would you like to pay for the repairs, Sir - ON A FIVE WEEK OLD, BRAND SPANKING NEW CAPTIVA MaXX. (I am not permitted to reveal the contents of that discussion in the forum):flipoff:

Other problems with the MaXX

Roof Leaks, Horn does not work - unless you pull it out and get an elephant to sit on it, Roof lining has water stains - probably from the leak where the roof rail is mounted to the body above the front passenger seat.:rofl:

Do NOT go to the drop off at an air port and attempt to retrieve luggage from the boot WHILST the engine is running - the bloody boot door wont open - you have to turn the ignition off for it to work.

Take care when changing lane from the right to the left lane whilst the cruise control is set - the location of the "Cancel" button will cause you to cancel your crusie control setting and you will slow down.

Good Things

I will post something - if I ever find something.



CAPTIVA MaXX :spew: :spew: :spew:


DO NOT BUY ONE.

[RED R8]

Not a good start.

[EGG]

So...

- You had a plastic clip in the gear selector break.
- The horn is a little difficult.
- Roof leaks/has stains - I'll certainly pay that as valid, but from the sounds of it you've left it for long enough to find out that leaks=stains?
- The boot safety-feature (needed for the kind of people who usually buy compact SUV's) is irritating.
- You don't like the location of one of the buttons.

And you've joined a car forum for a completely different vehicle to complain about it?

[emg]

Do car forums need some special entry requirement? Good on him for voicing his troubles.

[planetdavo]

Do car forums need some special entry requirement? Good on him for voicing his troubles.
I remember a thread about a year ago about someone with an Astra convertable that joined for the SPECIFIC reason to bitch and complain about his lemon car, with absolutely no other input of benefit to this forum.
He was promptly told to p!ss off by virtually everyone!
A couple of the things sound like legitimate beefs.
A couple sound like things he honestly should have sorted out when doing the test drives etc, and if he didn't like them, he should not have bought it!

[Waughy]

The MAXX is ugly anyway, no such complaints on the LX. Anyone want to take over my lease? I want to keep it but am in a tight spot and can't really afford to keep it (thanks CSA).

[zorro]

So...

- Roof leaks/has stains - I'll certainly pay that as valid, but from the sounds of it you've left it for long enough to find out that leaks=stains?



EGG - Just incase you have been living under a rock for the last 6 months SE Qld has only just in the last month gotten any decent form of precipitation from the skies.

Mate I feel for you in your issues with your vehicle, unfortunately you will have to come to some sort of resolution with your Holden dealership to get these issues sorted. My suggestion is putting your issues in writing and sending it to the service manager, salesman & manager and request a meeting to go over your vehicle.

Good luck

[Danv8]

I remember a thread about a year ago about someone with an Astra convertable that joined for the SPECIFIC reason to bitch and complain about his lemon car, with absolutely no other input of benefit to this forum.
He was promptly told to p!ss off by virtually everyone!
A couple of the things sound like legitimate beefs.
A couple sound like things he honestly should have sorted out when doing the test drives etc, and if he didn't like them, he should not have bought it!

Agreed,
You have to wonder if its real mcoy or just forum shenanigans again.
But then again the original poster's unluckiness does not represent all Captiva owners. Because you can get any dud from any manufacturer. I know my mrs did when she got her Mazda SP23 it was a pile of rubbish. Although I didn't go to a Mazda forum at throw my bile at them. :)

Although if this complaint is legit then good luck on getting it sorted.

[Brendan]

I agree, Holden are shit.

My VT didn't have the ashtray fitted when I got it - I had to wait nearly a week until they picked it up from my house and left the sales managers Calais for me to drive around in.

Then I killed them all.

[mac06]

A 50c orange plastic clip is a major mechanical fault? Nothing else mentioned is mechanical, and the only one of concern would be the roof leaking. Other than that it sounds all minor to me. The locking tailgate while the engine is running would be a security feature. Some will like it , some won't.

[GODSMACK]

Faults would be a poor discription - At the end of Novemeber I got my new MaXX - Impresive - YES. BUT!!! at 2464 Km (HAD NOT EVEN MADE THE FIRST SERVICE) the Auto Transmission was stuck in 4th Gear, whilst the gear stick was in Drive, would it go into Park, NO, Reverse, NO, would it start NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!.:flipoff:

This all occured on a Sunday 6 Jan 2008. So I ring Holden Roadside Assist - and what do I get - NOTHING. Holden went on holidays in December and so did their computers - my vehicle details were not in ANY database - so did I receive Roadside Assistance - Only through my own RACQ Plus Membership, from HOLDEN I got nothing but the Holden two foot shuffle.:flipoff:

So what was the cause of my problems - well it was a 50 cent orange plastic clip that (Theoretically) secured the selector shaft to the center console. :flipoff:

By the way this happen 400 km from home and the place of purchase.

Did the local Holden dealership fix it, NO, could they fix it - NO!!!:flipoff:

They did a "temp repair" - this consisted of a cable tie wrapped arround the housing and the selector shaft. And then told "It should get you home" "?????", and "you should take it to your service center as soon as you get home"

Classic Comments from the service department up north - And how would you like to pay for the repairs, Sir - ON A FIVE WEEK OLD, BRAND SPANKING NEW CAPTIVA MaXX. (I am not permitted to reveal the contents of that discussion in the forum):flipoff:

Other problems with the MaXX

Roof Leaks, Horn does not work - unless you pull it out and get an elephant to sit on it, Roof lining has water stains - probably from the leak where the roof rail is mounted to the body above the front passenger seat.:rofl:

Do NOT go to the drop off at an air port and attempt to retrieve luggage from the boot WHILST the engine is running - the bloody boot door wont open - you have to turn the ignition off for it to work.

Take care when changing lane from the right to the left lane whilst the cruise control is set - the location of the "Cancel" button will cause you to cancel your crusie control setting and you will slow down.

Good Things

I will post something - if I ever find something.



CAPTIVA MaXX :spew: :spew: :spew:


DO NOT BUY ONE. Sorry to hear it mate, certainly not a great experience... But it serves you right for not buying a V8!! Jk... :)

Hope they do the right thing and sort all your issues out for you...


So...

- You had a plastic clip in the gear selector break.
- The horn is a little difficult.
- Roof leaks/has stains - I'll certainly pay that as valid, but from the sounds of it you've left it for long enough to find out that leaks=stains?
- The boot safety-feature (needed for the kind of people who usually buy compact SUV's) is irritating.
- You don't like the location of one of the buttons.

And you've joined a car forum for a completely different vehicle to complain about it?
I do believe if you scroll to the top of the page it states Australian LS1 & HOLDEN Forums. I do believe the Captiva is a Holden..

[O5BRKY]

Yes, true a Holden Forum,but to join and only raise his's grief? I wonder how many other forums he has joined and posted the same thread.

[Carby]

Does the Maxx come from Europe? Just shows you should have got the cheaper and more reliable Korean Captiva:rofl:

[Jac001]

I am curious as to the response the dealer/ holden has giving the OP on the leaking roof?

[mac06]

I am curious as to the response the dealer/ holden has giving the OP on the leaking roof?

I had a look again at the OP and it says-

"Roof lining has water stains - probably from the leak where the roof rail is mounted to the body above the front passenger seat."

Probably sounds like it may or may not be leaking at all from the roof rail. Maybe its just a stain not relating to any water leak. If it actually was leaking from the roof rails then there'd not be any probably, it would be definite.

[planetdavo]

Does the Maxx come from Europe? Just shows you should have got the cheaper and more reliable Korean Captiva:rofl:
Maxx is Opel designed, but still GM-DAT (Korean) built like the regular Captiva. The "regular" Captiva was designed by our very own Mike Simcoe (of Monaro fame) and Max Wolfe (VY facelift).
Basically, Maxx is the Euro Captiva, and pretty much everywhere else gets the regular one.
His issues mentioned are NOT regular complaints.

[vxclubsport569]

Captiva is a piece of Daewoo crap, wehter it's GM-DAT or whatever, whatever investment GM/holden made isn't going to change everything that Korea makes.

buy a Mazda 6 or Accord Euro

For u sorry to hear your problems as your stuck with it so I hope things improve for you

[Marco]

Captiva is a piece of Daewoo crap, wehter it's GM-DAT or whatever, whatever investment GM/holden made isn't going to change everything that Korea makes.

Today's Korean cars aren't the same as 80s Korean cars...

[planetdavo]

Captiva is a piece of Daewoo crap, wehter it's GM-DAT or whatever, whatever investment GM/holden made isn't going to change everything that Korea makes.

buy a Mazda 6 or Accord Euro

For u sorry to hear your problems as your stuck with it so I hope things improve for you
You need to move with the times, and get your head out of the past.
Captiva is built on a GM platform, designed by the Aussies I mentioned earlier, is powered by an Aussie built V6 engine (in most models), was engineered by Holden (as they are now doing with Camaro), but is built in Korea for pricing reasons. And made quite well! WAY better than most of the Commodore models most of you happily drive!
I'd suggest you appreciate that a 6 or a Euro are TOTALLY different types of vehicles to the class Captiva belongs to.

[Jac001]

Captiva is a piece of Daewoo crap, wehter it's GM-DAT or whatever, whatever investment GM/holden made isn't going to change everything that Korea makes.



:rofl:

Deawoo products were shown by Choice Magazine to have a better reliability than the VS/ VT commodore and the astra back in 96-2000..

prehaps Holden and GM could learn something from them...

[German Statesman]

No further posts from our Captiva owner?? Hit & run like the Astra owner Davo mentioned??

This forum is the wrong place to get things fixed, my friend...you should be sitting in your Service Manager's office

Best of luck

[EfiJy]

all cars have problemws. i knoiw i fix heaps of jap cars. maxda, toyota, subura

[Flat - MaXX]

Firstly the title of the forum web page is Australian LS1 & "HOLDEN FORUMS" and everyone is entitled their opion.

As for the problem with the horn - they replaced the entire steering wheel because it was "de-laminating"

Sure a lousey 50 cent piece of orange plastic broke - this happen whilst I was parked!

What would have happend if it broke in a 40K zone in your kids school zone, or on the highway at 100K an hour.

Think about it....................... :soap:

For those interested - from break down to repaired ---- SIX DAYS

PS

Shortly I will have a NEW car and not a Holden, This is my last post on the matter

[VQST80]

To bad so sad goodbye:bawl:

[Micks]

Gotta agree holden designed built OS, this greedy option taken up by many Aus companies now to exploit the cheap wage option on offer OS nowadays. Cruel thing is were buying the crap back here.

Cheers
VYT

[Waughy]

You need to move with the times, and get your head out of the past.
Captiva is built on a GM platform, designed by the Aussies I mentioned earlier, is powered by an Aussie built V6 engine (in most models), was engineered by Holden (as they are now doing with Camaro), but is built in Korea for pricing reasons. And made quite well! WAY better than most of the Commodore models most of you happily drive!
I'd suggest you appreciate that a 6 or a Euro are TOTALLY different types of vehicles to the class Captiva belongs to.

The diesel is an Italian design. Also, when GM took over Daewoo they refurbished the plant with better equipment, one reason the quality has improved. You can tell by the comments the ones who don't own or know very little about the Captiva.

[lowriding]

Captiva is a piece of Daewoo crap, wehter it's GM-DAT or whatever, whatever investment GM/holden made isn't going to change everything that Korea makes.

buy a Mazda 6 or Accord Euro



yeah why didnt he just buy an MX5 convertible :confused:
as for everything made in Korea being shite , well they also used to say that about Jap made stuff years ago too.

[moose]

....Sure a lousey 50 cent piece of orange plastic broke - this happen whilst I was parked!

What would have happend if it broke in a 40K zone in your kids school zone, or on the highway at 100K an hour.

Think about it.....

A piece of plastic broke with no other movement, I doubt it very much, it probably broke while you were shifting during the previous drive before you parked it (not suggesting it was deliberate, just clarifying). The piece of plastic in question (if I understand you correctly) merely prevents the shifter from coming out of park.
So for your scenario, nothing at all would happen in a 40 zone, or a 100 zone, or anywhere else apart from a car park.

Glad to hear you had your minor issue fixed.

[Flat - MaXX]

NO! The "piece of plastic" hold the gear selector shaft in alignment. Take it out and the gear selection is at the whim of any movement in the selector shaft.

[Micks]

NO! The "piece of plastic" hold the gear selector shaft in alignment. Take it out and the gear selection is at the whim of any movement in the selector shaft.

Very nasty indeed...

Cheers
VYT

[planetdavo]

Gotta agree holden designed built OS, this greedy option taken up by many Aus companies now to exploit the cheap wage option on offer OS nowadays. Cruel thing is were buying the crap back here.

Cheers
VYT
Australia is part of a GLOBAL economy, whether you like it or not.
Do you seriously believe that people would pay nearly DOUBLE the price to own a 100% Aussie content Captiva (or Commodore for that matter)? It will always be like that, as long as we keep wanting truckloads of hourly pay for doing the least amount of work we can in Australia!
Most people don't care (or even know) where their car is made, just as long as it fits the description they bought it for, and is mostly reliable. All cars have something break on them at some point.

[Q8SS08MT]

All cars have something break on them at some point.

Unless you replace it before it does :D

[V-Car]

Do you seriously believe that people would pay nearly DOUBLE the price to own a 100% Aussie content Captiva (or Commodore for that matter)?

Territory buyers dont pay DOUBLE the price of a Falcon, and if Ford can totally engineer (and build here) a very competitive AWD SUV with their limited resources, then Holden sure as hell should be able to.
No offense meant davo, but your blinkered defensive fanboy responses are becoming a little tiresome. ;)

[planetdavo]

Territory buyers dont pay DOUBLE the price of a Falcon, and if Ford can totally engineer (and build here) a very competitive AWD SUV with their limited resources, then Holden sure as hell should be able to.
No offense meant davo, but your blinkered defensive fanboy responses are becoming a little tiresome. ;)
Whatever dude. My response was about a FULLY LOCALLY MANUFACTERED CAPTIVA, NOT A PARTIALLY LOCALLY BUILT CAR LIKE A TERRITORY!!!! READ IT AGAIN.
If you actually understood what 100% means, you would realise that (in BOTH Falcon AND Territory) the 6sp auto is NOT made here, the AWD transfer case (Territory only obviously) is NOT made here, their window glass is NOT made here, and most of their electrics are NOT made here, and......
Now start figuring out what a Territory would cost if the price of all the Asian made parts that make up a Falcon/Territory were at least tripled, such is the low hourly pay rate in most of Asia! Then figure out the cost of local manufacture of the Euro made ZF auto, the US transfer case and so forth. It would pretty much double the price of a Territory/Captiva, as I said.
You have no idea about the car manufacturing industry do you? You should have a good look at the country of origin stickers on most parts! Why do you think they all come from there? Remember AGAIN that my response was CLEARLY about a 100% locally manufactured car.
Maybe your attitude about me is becoming a little tiresome.

[Ghia351]

Whatever dude. My response was about a FULLY LOCALLY MANUFACTERED CAPTIVA, NOT A PARTIALLY LOCALLY BUILT CAR LIKE A TERRITORY!!!! READ IT AGAIN.
If you actually understood what 100% means, you would realise that (in BOTH Falcon AND Territory) the 6sp auto is NOT made here, the AWD transfer case (Territory only obviously) is NOT made here, their window glass is NOT made here, and most of their electrics are NOT made here, and......
Now start figuring out what a Territory would cost if the price of all the Asian made parts that make up a Falcon/Territory were at least tripled, such is the low hourly pay rate in most of Asia! Then figure out the cost of local manufacture of the Euro made ZF auto, the US transfer case and so forth. It would pretty much double the price of a Territory/Captiva, as I said.
You have no idea about the car manufacturing industry do you? You should have a good look at the country of origin stickers on most parts! Why do you think they all come from there? Remember AGAIN that my response was CLEARLY about a 100% locally manufactured car.
Maybe your attitude about me is becoming a little tiresome.
The local labour cost input of building a car is roughly 10% of its cost price so cheap labour does NOT have the great impact on the cost of a car...and regardless of the country of origin, if they are not resource rich then they have to buy raw material at world prices, whether it's China, Korea or Germany. If a Falcon/Terry is about 75% Australian in a dollar value sense then your argument isn't as strong and it wouldn't make a triple increase in cost to make every component in Australia. The simple fact of the matter is volume is the biggest bearing on car manufacturing...for example, build 250,000 at $1000 net profit or struggle to make the numbers work on 75,000 cars.....as a matter of fact South Korean labour is not cheap, third world labour is and South Korea is not a third world nation.

[planetdavo]

The point was ALWAYS about if a vehicle was TOTALLY locally built, in response to a theory about "korean crap". No car currently built in Australia is ANYWHERE near 100% local content, so it was only a hypothetical situation anyway!
Something a couple of you should realise, perhaps.
The really cheap Asian parts cost was related to Ford's (and Commodore for that matter) rather large percentage of Chinese sourced parts, something perhaps you aren't aware of! Sorry if I didn't explain that clearly enough.
VE Chev grilles are made in South Korea, by the way, for ONLY approx 40,000 cars per year, and that's two DIFFERENT styles (totalling 40K) as well, not just one. If volume was the big factor, and Korea isn't that cheap, why are they made there, then sent over on a ship far cheaper than they could be made here?
My points still stand.

[vxclubsport569]

Is it really worth getting this worked up over this nominal matter

Why do people, some in particular..... seem to get so worked up over such trivial matters that pop up here???

I like to see different thoughts on this forum which is why i like to come on here and yes my thoughts are that despite what Holden says there korean "touched" product is the weaker part of their line up

Wheels magazine seems to also thinks this fairly often

Everyone has their own thoughts, some based of fact, some based on on thoughts, each to their own me thinks

[sixlta]

Territory buyers dont pay DOUBLE the price of a Falcon, and if Ford can totally engineer (and build here) a very competitive AWD SUV with their limited resources, then Holden sure as hell should be able to.
No offense meant davo, but your blinkered defensive fanboy responses are becoming a little tiresome. ;)


Quote : ''Your blinkered Defensive Fan-boy responses are becoming a little tiresome'',
Nice i was waiting for someone to tell him, :)

[CAPTIVALX]

The main point that needs to be made here is that the captiva isnt the cheap crap korean suv that non owners like to make it out to be. Most owners love the captiva's great versatility and build quality. There are always lemons / over exagerated owners/ bad dealers in all makes but 90% of captiva owners that i've met are wrapped with there purchase.

[sixlta]

The main point that needs to be made here is that the captiva isnt the cheap crap korean suv that non owners like to make it out to be. Most owners love the captiva's great versatility and build quality. There are always lemons / over exagerated owners/ bad dealers in all makes but 90% of captiva owners that i've met are wrapped with there purchase.

My mother inlaw has one mate, never had a isue and loves it,
She has never said a bad word about it other than it aint as fast as yours, :)

[Ghia351]

VE Chev grilles are made in South Korea, by the way, for ONLY approx 40,000 cars per year, and that's two DIFFERENT styles (totalling 40K) as well, not just one. If volume was the big factor, and Korea isn't that cheap, why are they made there, then sent over on a ship far cheaper than they could be made here?
My points still stand.
Ah yes, however the question should be how many plastic components does this plant produce in total, does it make it's own die tooling, and so on...and did the customer jump to the O/S supplier just to save a small amount, multiplied by similar savings on many more components....

[Waughy]

I feel that people who don't own, or haven't had a decent experience with a Captiva (no a drive of a demo for 30 mins doesn't count), should just butt out of these threads and stop being post whores, it's all they're doing, trying to get thier post count up, as well as annoy others with thier complete lack of knowledge.
I don't know how much time I waste every time I get an email saying there's a new reply to a thread I'm watching out of interest, only to log in and find it's full of bullshit that helps me in no way. If you want to attack each other or argue over which car is more Aussie, use the PM system. Anyone who doesn't own a Holden and contribute positively to the site should be banned, ala XR6T GEN or whatever the tool was called.
End rant.

[planetdavo]

Quote : ''Your blinkered Defensive Fan-boy responses are becoming a little tiresome'',
Nice i was waiting for someone to tell him, :)
You could have just told me yourself. I hardly care about your opinion of me.....:bow::bow::bow: !

I can sense a :closed: coming on.

[sixlta]

You could have just told me yourself. I hardly care about your opinion of me.....:bow::bow::bow: !

I can sense a :closed: coming on.

:sleep: Sorry you talking to me.

[EL2]

I'm about to buy a Captiva LX. Or a Santa Fe SLX. Haven't quite made up my mind yet. This thread has not put me off the Captiva one little bit.

[vessloveit]

Brother in law compared Captiva and Santa Fe, he wanted a diesel, ended up getting the Santa Fe on some sort of lease deal. Seems like a reasonably built vehicle, good fit and finish.

[Clutch22]

The Maxx is a nice car but I, even as a salesman will always push the customer into something else.

For one, the fuel economy. We have these things on as demos and get on average 16L/100

Maxx is not available in a diesel.

Maxx is not going to be built any more as of April I think. I know they're stopping production not sure when.

Should have bought an LX Diesel.

[mac06]

The Maxx is a nice car but I, even as a salesman will always push the customer into something else.

For one, the fuel economy. We have these things on as demos and get on average 16L/100

Maxx is not available in a diesel.

Maxx is not going to be built any more as of April I think. I know they're stopping production not sure when.

Should have bought an LX Diesel.

A "salesman" bagging his own product on a public forum. You've also just effectively bagged the SX, CX and LX V6 petrol. Not very bright.:rofl:

[Clutch22]

A "salesman" bagging his own product on a public forum. You've also just effectively bagged the SX, CX and LX V6 petrol. Not very bright.:rofl:

What do I care? It's not like you have my name and dealer.

Find me a salesman who stands behind every car on his lot and I'll show you a liar.

The V6 isn't bad in the other models as it is in the Maxx. I don't know why but the V6 in the Maxx gets around 100km less out of the tank compared to the other V6's.

And if I need to sell one I can make it sound like the best car you've ever driven.

[mac06]

What do I care? It's not like you have my name and dealer.

Find me a salesman who stands behind every car on his lot and I'll show you a liar.

There's a big difference between not standing behind every car you sell and publicly bagging them in a forum. That's just stupidity, which probably comes from a young, inexperienced salesman trying to big note himself. You also just alienated any members who own the Maxx, not to mention a few others who now doubt your "knowledge".



And if I need to sell one I can make it sound like the best car you've ever driven.

It's people like you that give salesmen a bad name.

[Clutch22]

There's a big difference between not standing behind every car you sell and publicly bagging them in a forum. That's just stupidity, which probably comes from a young, inexperienced salesman trying to big note himself. You also just alienated any members who own the Maxx, not to mention a few others who now doubt your "knowledge".



It's people like you that give salesmen a bad name.

You've successfully scored a 0 on my care-factor.

[Big_Valven]

You've successfully scored a 0 on my care-factor.

All I can say ROFL - not commenting on reasons.

The thread starter is obviously stirring sh*t, newly joined, username as such... Why don't you tell someone who can fix it, instead of whinging to a bunch of guys on a forum that will inevitably tell you to get stuffed and channel your problems through the correct avenues?

Problem solved for all.

[Guy Incognito98]

From a couple of pages back - vxclubsport569 - it always makes me laugh when someone on here with a VX Commodore criticises the Captiva. Having traded a VX Commodore for a Captiva I can assure you the quality and sophistication of the Captiva makes the VX look like a horse and cart, there is simply no comparison. Imagine having a car with the brake pedal connected to something solid that actually slows it down not just a vibrating squeal generator, having an interior that doesn't fall apart if you breathe on it, being able to take off from a standstill in the wet using more than 1/50th of available throttle travel, not having the transmission whine and clunk into every gear, not having the drivers seat rock backwards and forwards when you accelerate or brake, not having fuses and relays blow every time you use one or more electrical features of the car etc etc.

It is a shame that the OP has had trouble with theirs, haven't heard of anyone really having a good experience with the Maxx. Our LX V6 is almost a year old has just done 25000km and is absolutely faultless, couldn't think of another vehicle (at that price mind you) that would do a better job.

ps planetdavo keep up the good fight

[VQST80]

What do I care? It's not like you have my name and dealer.

Find me a salesman who stands behind every car on his lot and I'll show you a liar.

The V6 isn't bad in the other models as it is in the Maxx. I don't know why but the V6 in the Maxx gets around 100km less out of the tank compared to the other V6's.

And if I need to sell one I can make it sound like the best car you've ever driven.

Its funny that you say we dont have your name or dealer but , Ill tell you something for free...
Its a small world.

And I dont see your future in the industry as being a long one.

[German Statesman]

You've successfully scored a 0 on my care-factor.

Congratulations, sunshine - you've put another bullet in Planetdavo's "Dealerships Are The Greatest" airship....:vpo:

It seems too, that you were at work at 1pm when you logged on...hmm...does your Holden zone office know your IP comes up on this forum, and that you are making these comments online?

Every now and then, I think that maybe I was wrong after years of dealing with them in dealerships to think all car salesmen are @#?!wits - I mean some were OK people, some were good for a laugh, but in the end they are all like you.

Just thnk - this post could have you in the Darwin Awards when your boss finds out....dickhead

[planetdavo]

ps planetdavo keep up the good fight
Cheers!
There are a few pretty obvious suspects on this forum that really wish I'd just p!ss off somewhere, so that their ignorant, ill informed "knowledge" would stop being questioned!
Damn them, I say, damn them....