New undercover fleet for NSW Police

[Turner]

ANY car on the road could now be a cop car, thanks to a NSW Police initiative to combat hoons and law breakers.

Highway patrol officers have used unmarked police cars for years.

But the latest scheme sees a range of high performance sports vehicles including Ford Falcon Typhoons and Suburu Impreza WRXs patrolling the streets.

The vehicles are fitted with the latest accessories and are in a range of colours - some even sporting "P" plates - to fit in with vehicles commonly associated with car hoons.

Police Traffic Services Commander Chief Superintendent John Hartley said the scheme was part of a ploy to "blend in" with the hoons.

"What we're doing is using a combination of marked and unmarked police cars," Supt Hartley said.

"We're using covert style vehicles which are, in the main, high performance cars like the (Ford) Typhoons.

"They are a new strategy to get cars that blend in with the hoodlums.

"What we find is people don't pick them as police cars and it's easier to pick offences like speeding, using a mobile phone or not wearing a seatbelts.

"We've found that people usually slow down and modify their driving behaviour when they see a marked police car.

"What we're trying to do is get the message across that anywhere, anytime, any car could be a police car.

"You won't know whether the car beside you is a police car or not."

But the fleet designed to catch law-breakers on the roads does not stop at new or sports-modified models.

Police are also deploying older, well-worn cars as part of their covert traffic operations, Supt Hartley said.

It seems to be working, with speeding and drink driving offences well down over the Christmas period.

And although it has a very serious side to it, the new cars are providing police with one or two "lighter moments"

"The officers tell me that they have had a couple of people pull alongside with the intention of a drag race," Supt Hartley said. "They think the better of it when they look across and see a police uniform on the guy sitting behind the wheel."

Supt Hartley said a "classic" example of the success of the scheme was the recent case of a hire car driver who was pulled over for speeding while ferrying a bride and groom.

Police began deploying the undercover vehicles in March when the State Government announced funding for an additional 50 highway patrol cars.

They took delivery of the fleet shortly before the Christmas traffic campaign.

"I think it's having a big impact on the street racing and hoodlum activity (but) it's probably to early to tell about general driving behaviour," Supt Hartley said.

[Evman]

So a person not on their P plates driving with P plates on is breaking the law...But police can do it...


"They are a new strategy to get cars that blend in with the hoodlums.

Hoodlums...? Is that a hoon that lives in the slums? From the law breakers I've seen, there are quite a lot of "respectable" cars/drivers that are the culprits (4WD's, higher end luxury cars, etc).


"We've found that people usually slow down and modify their driving behaviour when they see a marked police car."

No shit, it's because we all start watching the speedo more than the road.


"They think the better of it when they look across and see a police uniform on the guy sitting behind the wheel."

It's one thing to be there at the time, but I've seen unmarked cars trying to encourage guys for a drag at the lights, only to nab them when they bite...

[CSP]

Get a decent lawyer and get off based on "entrapment"...

[MclarenF1]

Stupid pigs, this is so dishonest. When they resort to these tactics there integrity goes out the window. No wonder very few people trust them. The Australian police force are a joke, they are emoral, unehtical, inhuman, lack common decency, there corrupt, on the take, and dishonest. I have no respect for them at all.

[Carby]

This will be fun.......can't wait for all the do gooders and "holier than thous" to get on and tell everyone if you stick to the road rules you have nothing to worry about..........:soap:

[CSP]

Stupid pigs, this is so dishonest. When they resort to these tactics there integrity goes out the window. No wonder very few people trust them. The Australian police force are a joke, they are emoral, unehtical, inhuman, lack common decency, there corrupt, on the take, and dishonest. I have no respect for them at all.

There is no such thing as an "Australian Police Force" mate... But you have nothing to worry about. Even trying your hardest, you would never be considered a hoon in your car :D

Not going to get into everything else that is clearly wrong with your post.

[HSV Listy]

At least you know what to look for. Up here the NT police used taxis to get people doing the wrong thing, catching gangs, getting people to taking off from the lights fast etc. I even heard they had one or two people in the back of them provoking you to GET INTO IT MATE, GIVE HER SOME. Some blokes telling you to give her some for a bit of fun then pulling you over.

They leased them from the companies not purchased them. I have not heard of any lately so maybe that failed like the police man 2 days crashing into a pole in a intersection in a unmarked police car. He got done for DUI of .120. Silly boy.

[MclarenF1]

There is no such thing as an "Australian Police Force" mate... But you have nothing to worry about. Even trying your hardest, you would never be considered a hoon in your car :D

Not going to get into everything else that is clearly wrong with your post.

There nothing wrong with my post, it is you who is wrong. If you had a more sence you would know i am speeking about all the states police forces who are virtually all the same. There pieces of shit. An for you to defend them is strange, are you a pig?

[mac06]

This will be fun.......can't wait for all the do gooders and "holier than thous" to get on and tell everyone if you stick to the road rules you have nothing to worry about..........:soap:

Stick to the road rules and you'll have nothing to worry about. There are you happy now?:D

[Carby]

Give the man a Cupey doll!!....Thanks Mac!

[MclarenF1]

I can't stand these pigs, there the worst of the worst. There are no words that i can write that would describe the utter contempt i feel for them. They all can rot in eternal hell.

[Steve-LS2]

I can't stand these pigs, there the worst of the worst. There are no words that i can write that would describe the utter contempt i feel for them. They all can rot in eternal hell.

I don't care whether you are serious or not, these posts you have written need to be deleted, i have reported the first one, and I will keep reporting them. Grow up!

[MclarenF1]

I could not care, i stand by my words Steve.

The people you generally find who join the police force are people on power trips. They are insecure about themselves and feel better when they impose there authority over a person, an idiotic, weak, psychology. Generally applies to young guys who think there a someboby by being a cop, there a nothing, a useless waste of space. Sure the moderator can delete my opinion, and everyone has the right to disagree, but believe there are many people who would agree with me but do not possess the guts to state it.

[misterS]

off-topic - Mclaren - The veyron engine in a commodore thread, the $22K Russian bride - (including wedding photos, the bride and the car was a stroke of genius) were both very funny and generated a lot of other funny stuff - but these latest posts on this thread are not up to your sardonic standards, although I did like the term "emoral".

Wouldn't be surprised to see it in the dictionary some day. Anyway, put some imaginative effort back into it - like the 88mph and elapsed time for the 1/4 mile in your vess and the other 2 threads mentioned above.

[Citric XR6]

Get a decent lawyer and get off based on "entrapment"...


That would be good, but a mate of mine who seems to be clued up on road laws etc. reckons we don't have entrapment laws in Australia. Not sure if that is 100% correct though.

Anyone in the know care to clarify?

[mac06]

:idea: I know. Let's get rid of the police force altogether. Then we can all do what we want and we'll all be better off. :fewl:

[Devil CV8]

I can't stand these pigs, there the worst of the worst. There are no words that i can write that would describe the utter contempt i feel for them. They all can rot in eternal hell.
So when you have your car stolen/broken into/burgled etc I take it you won't bother going to the "worst of the worst"
How about when that drunk driver smashes into you, it'll be ok because you won't bother with the cops...

I have issues with some police and how they do their job, but your posts in this thread are beneath contempt, and any person who gets on here and spouts the utter garbage you have has some serious issues they need to deal with before they become more of a menace to society.

[cholo]

I dont know but I think alot of cops I've met are fine and are just like us.

Was driving back from the coast and had an rbt. The copper was very cool and asked how our car is and that he was gonna buy one etc and had a bit of a chat.

And undercovers have let me off for speeding and without my licence on me. So its not all gloom. Just behave really and you dont need to worry.

They're just doing their jobs.

Not saying all cops are good cos I know a few undercovers that ARE bad asses. Stripped my friend of $1k sometime ago in a club. They asked him to go to the toilet to do a search in a pokies club but more like search for his cash. The uniform cops are usually the good ones but the undercovers you can never tell and they are dangerous. No one knows they're a cop (though sometimes you can tell a mile away) and they hold so much power.


cheers

Cholo

[MclarenF1]

That would be good, but a mate of mine who seems to be clued up on road laws etc. reckons we don't have entrapment laws in Australia. Not sure if that is 100% correct though.

Anyone in the know care to clarify?

I would not doubt this at all. The Australian legal system still places value in law pasted back as early as the late eighteenth century. The law is not only designed to promote security but also serve it's own perpose to suppress the accused.
It takes away there rights and hands them to the authorities. This is unjust and ethically wrong. As we venture into the future more of these laws are passed that take away our rights as people. This is partially why i do not have any respect for the police, they take these ancient laws and utilise them to there full advantage knowing they are not relevant to the society of today.


So when you have your car stolen/broken into/burgled etc I take it you won't bother going to the "worst of the worst"
How about when that drunk driver smashes into you, it'll be ok because you won't bother with the cops...

I have issues with some police and how they do their job, but your posts in this thread are beneath contempt, and any person who gets on here and spouts the utter garbage you have has some serious issues they need to deal with before they become more of a menace to society.

I could not be bothered with you:).

[HOTSV8]

I can't stand these pigs, there the worst of the worst. There are no words that i can write that would describe the utter contempt i feel for them. They all can rot in eternal hell.


You shouldn't have anything to worry about ..... the times your car runs it would be lucky to keep up to a moped ...:rofl:

[Jac001]

It's one thing to be there at the time, but I've seen unmarked cars trying to encourage guys for a drag at the lights, only to nab them when they bite...

From the article in the first post, it appears that the police are only trying to blend in just like they always have but now using a greater range of cars.

The second part of your post would be considered entrapment.

Personally if you want to drag someone on the road and you get pinched for it, you only really have yourself to blame. (and you should consider yourself lucky that you haven't killed yourself or someone else).

[MclarenF1]

You shouldn't have anything to worry about ..... the times your car runs it would be lucky to keep up to a moped ...:rofl:


Why slag my car, have i done that to you?. This thread is about a mob of thugs being dishonest with unmarked cars. Not about forum menbers cars or there personalities. This is the problem with alot of uneducated people. When the cerbrums are pushed beyond there capacity they start going off in tangents, in simplified terms, off topic. I am not ridiculing your car nor your individual personality, why do it to me?, be fair. This is about unethical police not me nor you.

[Jac001]

[QUOTE=MclarenF1;1120961] This is partially why i do not have any respect for the police, they take these ancient laws and utilise them to there full advantage knowing they are not relevant to the society of today.

[QUOTE]

Police do not make up the laws, they can only go by what politicians have introduced into parliment and what the courts have ruled on.

Your 'beef' should be with your local member of parliment, not the cops....

[sv8ls1]

Cheif Super D@#k Head is obviously backing the governments policy on raising revenue and waisting hard earnd tax payers money on F$%*N FORDS???

Ten points for trying to make a difference

Zero for not using VE R8's

[Citric XR6]

What worries me about this latest obsession with "hooning" is what exactly will constitute the term "hooning" being used by the officer and/or court. An all out drag race or burnout comp on the road is obviously worthy of the label, but what about the poor bugger that just gave his car a bit of stick off the line or through a corner etc?

I think these laws have the potential to cause all sorts of problems.

[MclarenF1]

[QUOTE=MclarenF1;1120961] This is partially why i do not have any respect for the police, they take these ancient laws and utilise them to there full advantage knowing they are not relevant to the society of today.

[QUOTE]

Police do not make up the laws, they can only go by what politicians have introduced into parliment and what the courts have ruled on.

Your 'beef' should be with your local member of parliment, not the cops....

The police should have the common sense of knowing what laws should be implemented in an individual case instead of looking up 18th century law in knowing it is not relevant. The majority of them are fat, overweight slugs who could not catch an 80 year old with a wheely walker, totally out of condition, yet there on the street. Instead of being on the street pursuing the hardened criminals, they choose to harass the general public who in most cases do the right thing. The reason being is they don't want the danger element involved with hardened criminals, there a bunch of cowards.

[Devil CV8]

I could not be bothered with you:).

lol :rofl::rofl: good to see you don't have any comeback.... says a lot for your comments, doesn't it.

[Jac001]

[QUOTE=Jac001;1120992][QUOTE=MclarenF1;1120961] This is partially why i do not have any respect for the police, they take these ancient laws and utilise them to there full advantage knowing they are not relevant to the society of today.



The police should have the common sence of knowing what laws should be implemented in an individual case instead of looking up 18th century law in knowing it is not relevant. The majority of them are fat, overweight slugs who could not catch an 80 year old with a wheely walker, totally out of condition, yet there on the street. Instead of being on the street pursuing the hardened criminals, they choose to harass the general public who in most cases do the right thing. The reason being is they don't want the danger element involved with hardened criminals, there a bunch of cowards.


You will have to enlighten me which 18th century laws applies to the issue at hand, :)

but my point still stands that our elected officials can close and get rid of all those outdated/ irrelevant laws...



Driving around in unmarked cars is NOT harassment.

Driving like a di#k shouldn't be acceptable just because there are no cops about.

Roads are not private test tracks.

At the end of the days, the laws are clear in relation to road use and they are there to keep me, you and every other road user safe.


If you break the laws and you get caught you only have yourself to blame....

[HRT 8]

I could not care, i stand by my words Steve.

The people you generally find who join the police force are people on power trips. They are insecure about themselves and feel better when they impose there authority over a person, an idiotic, weak, psychology. Generally applies to young guys who think there a someboby by being a cop, there a nothing, a useless waste of space. Sure the moderator can delete my opinion, and everyone has the right to disagree, but believe there are many people who would agree with me but do not possess the guts to state it.

I was going to go thru this thread and delete your dribblings. BUT, I thought better of it as you have really hit the nail on the head. A true display of a MORON.
Your true colours are showing thru from behind your keyboard.

Im one of at least 12 (that I know of) serving police members that frequent this forum.
Your replies to this and other threads show your mentality ond maturity.
Ive had far better abusive insults thrown at me from 14 year old junkies.
You sir, are an absolute waste of oxygen.

Sad thing is Mclaren F1 will never have the luxury of reading this post. He wont be bothering this forum again!!