Rwkw.... A Dogs Breakfast??

[The MINX]

I was reading through an old motor magazine and they had a comparo on 9 aussie muscle cars. There was a mixture of Fords and Holdens. They put all nine cars on the same dyno and the results were as follows....

WK CAPRICE 5.7 158rwkw or 64% of claimed 245kw
XR8 192rwkw or 73% of claimed 260kw
Monaro CV8 182rwkw or 77% of claimed 235kw
SS 178rwkw or 75% of claimed 235kw
SV8 174rwkw or 74% of claimed 235kw
GTS Coupe 222rwkw or 74% of claimed 300kw
Clubsport 195rwkw or 75% of claimed 260kw
FPV GT 225rwkw or 77% of claimed 290kw
XR6T 185rwkw or 77% of claimed 240kw

Most of them appear to have lost 25% through the gearbox/diff to the wheels.

Is Holden losing more power through its drivetrain? I was led to beleive that Fords KW numbers are the more generous way of measuring (DIN) and Holden were more conservative but the results up here suggest otherwise. Also look at the irregularities between GEN3 Caprice, Monaro, SS, SV8.

Further Im sure Holdens LS2 297kw car made more than 222rwkw on the dyno. Is the old Callaway 300kw soft when next to a LS2?

[11SLI]

The dyno results are RWKW, the other numbers are the factory FWKW (flywheel kilowatts)

[SLEEPERVX]

The figures manufacturers quote are at the FLYWHEEL, not at the wheels. :idea:

[Anubis]

I'm pretty sure "the MINX" knows that. His post is about drive line loss, not claimed vs RWKW figures.....

Some interesting numbers there, the only LWB car lost the most, which is fair enough. And the rest of them are around the 75% mark, so looking at those figures you could say Ford and Holden are on the same page.

[badnews]

looks like he got banned pretty quick... anyone know why?

[TommyVTss]

i dunno :confused: maybe because he is infact a minx and not human?

[ziggycv8z]

Reason: Breach of Multiple Account Rule. Secondary Accounts: "Maximum Torque", "XR6T GEN".

[Steve-LS2]

he is either XR6T GEN starting another holden bashing post disguised as a discussion point or it is MCLARENF1 either way who gives a sh!t:rofl:

I thought so :lmao:

[Tony66]

What is wrong with multiple accounts? As long as your not acting like a d'head??

[JT]

What is wrong with multiple accounts? As long as your not acting like a d'head??

it's against the rules

[Wonky]

What is wrong with multiple accounts? As long as your not acting like a d'head??

A big no-no!! :teach: Especially given in his XR6TGEN incarnation he was :weirdo: anyway.......

[Tony66]

I know I have read the rules, but I was wondering why specifically? Just cause it is isnt a reason.

[SLEEPERVX]

I know I have read the rules, but I was wondering why specifically? Just cause it is isnt a reason.
Here's a thread with some discussion on the issue, happy reading!
Australian LS1 and Holden Forums (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=52114)

[Evman]

He really needs to get a life...

[planetdavo]

What is wrong with multiple accounts? As long as your not acting like a d'head??

People who want multiple accounts usually do act like d!ckheads!
They use one account to abuse people, then when that gets shut down, they move on to the next one, and so forth...
If you have only one account, and you're an idiot, you get shut down.
Call it the K.I.S.S principal.

[VX-300]

WK CAPRICE 5.7 158rwkw or 64% of claimed 245kw
XR8 192rwkw or 73% of claimed 260kw
Monaro CV8 182rwkw or 77% of claimed 235kw
SS 178rwkw or 75% of claimed 235kw
SV8 174rwkw or 74% of claimed 235kw
GTS Coupe 222rwkw or 74% of claimed 300kw
Clubsport 195rwkw or 75% of claimed 260kw
FPV GT 225rwkw or 77% of claimed 290kw
XR6T 185rwkw or 77% of claimed 240kw

Most of them appear to have lost 25% through the gearbox/diff to the wheels.



It's interesting to compare this with the numbers for stock Pontiac GTO's (rebadged Monaros) in USA. We know they run the same engines and drivelines as us, so the losses should be the same right ? Well not if you use a good-ol-boys hokey dyno.

LS1--04GTO...................300rwhp...or 85.7% of claimed 350hp
LS2--05&06GTO..............350rwhp...or 87.5% of claimed 400hp

[I've used middle ground figures in both examples, the LS1 GTO I've seen up to 310rwhp for stock claimed, the LS2 GTO I've seen up to 360rwhp for stock claimed.]