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Clutch22
30-01-2008, 04:30 PM
In WA they are advertising 2007 GTS for 66,990+ Stamp duty.

Only way they advertise them that cheap is if something big is coming. I already told you guys what was coming, this is just another hint.

Steve-LS2
30-01-2008, 04:45 PM
thats great for West Aussies, in Vic they are still 74 to 78 + on roads, are you sure its brand new?

vyc4b
30-01-2008, 04:47 PM
a mate seen a blue ve the other day heading out too Lang Lang, badged 7.0l and gtsr........true story.:yup:

Strick
30-01-2008, 05:13 PM
I'll believe that there is a 7.0l gtsr when i see it with my own two eyes lol, there has been so many rumors regarding this. Plus why would why bring in a new engine, say LS3. the LS2 hasnt really been around that long.

wagnman
30-01-2008, 05:14 PM
I visited a Holden dealer today and quizzed a salesman about when the 6.2L engines would come out and he said that there was no plans at all about releasing anything other than the LS2 and that there would never ever be a 7L HSV!

It was funny as. He either never looks at the new info going around or he just wanted to try to mug me off in the hope that I would buy a LS2 HSv (not that there is anything wrong with the LS2's mind you)

planetdavo
30-01-2008, 06:16 PM
Yet ANOTHER thread on this topic???
Seriously, considering HSV dealers are selling EVERY SINGLE ONE of the GTS versions they are allocated, and there's a several month waiting list, what reason would there be to majorly discount them!
That is where your theory falls apart....


a mate seen a blue ve the other day heading out too Lang Lang, badged 7.0l and gtsr........true story.:yup:
So, in this age of heavily camoflaged pre-production models, and a heavily rumoured motor show special in a months time, one of these would just be driving around proudly displaying it's badges...???
Not likely.

AFAR
30-01-2008, 06:51 PM
LS3 will be soon....


http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6447/bigkevwideweb470x3170hf3.jpg


ps. As to the badged 7ltr.
Im sure there are currently NO ls7 conversions for commodores out there.
Badges are hard to get too!

planetdavo
30-01-2008, 07:05 PM
Im sure there are currently NO ls7 conversions for commodores out there.

Perhaps you missed the Jan 2008 Wheels mag, with a story on the (CSV converted) GTS 427, make to look like a "factory" GTS 427 at first glance...

Brandonsdad
31-01-2008, 09:44 AM
LS3 will be soon....


http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6447/bigkevwideweb470x3170hf3.jpg


ps. As to the badged 7ltr.
Im sure there are currently NO ls7 conversions for commodores out there.
Badges are hard to get too!

Nice frog.
LS3 is very soon, as mentioned in a closed thread. You can never have enough information on these things. There will be no 6L HSVs made in 2008. All will have the 6.2L and will not be out for at least a couple of months, depending on how long ago you ordered and how it fits into production. HSV dealers are ringing customers to tell them and making them aware of the extra $1500 for it, which is understandable. Was told they would be out in late April early May, could be a month earlier, to coincide with the Orion. Has anyone that has one on order received a call yet about it?

red_hot
31-01-2008, 09:58 AM
Should we start it all now?

dual 3 inch or dual 3.5 inch for the ls3?
:jester:

Uwish
31-01-2008, 10:49 AM
I call BS on the 6.2lt.
I have called a number of HSV dealers and asked what the wait is and I would sign a contract if they can state a 6.2 engine will be in the car. All said there is NO 6.2 coming at the moment.
I also called METRO and the sales guy said his next available car was April / May and he still said it was rumours. No contract guarntee.
If all 08" E series are 6.2s it is 100% BS. No call from HSV. Since they only went back on the 21/1.


In WA they are advertising 2007 GTS for 66,990+ Stamp duty.

Only way they advertise them that cheap is if something big is coming. I already told you guys what was coming, this is just another hint.

66900 + LCT + stamp duty. I could have picked up a Silver 07 GTS for the same price. Dealers like to off load stock. that is why it's cheap.
Phone other dealers and ask the question of price on GTSs' in stock

Brandonsdad
31-01-2008, 11:37 AM
I call BS on the 6.2lt.
I have called a number of HSV dealers and asked what the wait is and I would sign a contract if they can state a 6.2 engine will be in the car. All said there is NO 6.2 coming at the moment.
I also called METRO and the sales guy said his next available car was April / May and he still said it was rumours. No contract guarntee.
If all 08" E series are 6.2s it is 100% BS. No call from HSV. Since they only went back on the 21/1.



66900 + LCT + stamp duty. I could have picked up a Silver 07 GTS for the same price. Dealers like to off load stock. that is why it's cheap.
Phone other dealers and ask the question of price on GTSs' in stock

We will wait and see with the 6.2L. Of course dealers arent going to tell some flunkee over the phone that its coming. Maybe the guy you talked to doesnt even know himself. Holden dealerships are the last to find out. Is that METRO Holden in sydney or METRO Holden in Adelaide. If its in sydney, maybe theyre a bit behind the 8 ball. Any dealer will probably say "yeah its a rumour mate" because they want to sell cars now, not in 3 or 4 months time. Maybe the Holden dealer that rang my brother in law was just making it up to get extra money off him and theyll just change the engine cover and badges. I dont think so.

6LTR CLUB
31-01-2008, 11:50 AM
I am due to pick up an 08 compliance Maloo in March and it was a $1000 increase from the 07 compliance due to annual price increases. If I hear any more I will let you know.

Brandonsdad
31-01-2008, 11:58 AM
I am due to pick up an 08 compliance Maloo in March and it was a $1000 increase from the 07 compliance due to annual price increases. If I hear any more I will let you know.

OK. You will have to change your name to 6.2L CLUB.

6LTR CLUB
31-01-2008, 12:03 PM
I could handle that.:dance:

SilverB
31-01-2008, 12:10 PM
There is a VE Calias thats at Melville Holden in Perth running around with 427 badges. Not sure if it is from the factory or and after market job.

Uwish
31-01-2008, 12:27 PM
We will wait and see with the 6.2L. Of course dealers arent going to tell some flunkee over the phone that its coming. Maybe the guy you talked to doesnt even know himself. Holden dealerships are the last to find out. Is that METRO Holden in sydney or METRO Holden in Adelaide. If its in sydney, maybe theyre a bit behind the 8 ball. Any dealer will probably say "yeah its a rumour mate" because they want to sell cars now, not in 3 or 4 months time. Maybe the Holden dealer that rang my brother in law was just making it up to get extra money off him and theyll just change the engine cover and badges. I dont think so.


It was Adelaide. I asked the right questions to get him to agree with the new engine. No new engine to his knowledge.

TUFGN3
31-01-2008, 12:28 PM
daaaaaaaaamn! thats insane! how can they do that

VYR8HSV
31-01-2008, 12:28 PM
I could handle that.:dance:

Tim
You better get down to the licencing dept & order those plates..
Never know when you might need them :smilesandbanana:

And before someone else does & puts a cpl of grand on them
Pete

Brandonsdad
31-01-2008, 12:31 PM
Should we start it all now?

dual 3 inch or dual 3.5 inch for the ls3?
:jester:

Are you kidding, quad 3 inch for sure.:rofl:

HSV471
31-01-2008, 01:32 PM
Nice frog.
LS3 is very soon, as mentioned in a closed thread. You can never have enough information on these things. There will be no 6L HSVs made in 2008. All will have the 6.2L and will not be out for at least a couple of months, depending on how long ago you ordered and how it fits into production. HSV dealers are ringing customers to tell them and making them aware of the extra $1500 for it, which is understandable. Was told they would be out in late April early May, could be a month earlier, to coincide with the Orion. Has anyone that has one on order received a call yet about it?

When did he order his? I ordered mine from Metro on 4th Jan and haven't heard from them yet.

6LTR CLUB
31-01-2008, 01:44 PM
I put the order in late Nov and just getting the standard setup. If you ordered the upgrade then expect long delays.

GDB
31-01-2008, 01:56 PM
When did he order his? I ordered mine from Metro on 4th Jan and haven't heard from them yet.

I'll join the queue. Ordered a GTS in December, the only call I got was "your car's gonna be pushed back from March delivery to June, at best".



66900 + LCT + stamp duty. I could have picked up a Silver 07 GTS for the same price. Dealers like to off load stock. that is why it's cheap.
Phone other dealers and ask the question of price on GTSs' in stock

Yeah if that car has no/little options, that's pretty much what I am paying for my 08 GTS. It isn't THAT low (if at all!) to be very honest...

Brandonsdad
31-01-2008, 03:34 PM
When did he order his? I ordered mine from Metro on 4th Jan and haven't heard from them yet.

Ordered end of November and told them to wait until 08 to order car from Holdens so that it would be plated 08.


I put the order in late Nov and just getting the standard setup. If you ordered the upgrade then expect long delays.

You couldnt order it with the upgrade, only with the 6 litre as that was all they had, but any 08 ones will have the 6.2. Lets just wait and see if Im wrong or right. Order those plates anyway.

spank
31-01-2008, 04:37 PM
the 6.2 has to come because of emmission laws, the ls2 6.0 wont meet the laws, so the 6.2 will be comming sooner or later, and as the corvette is already running with the 6.2 with 436hp with dual mode exhaust system its not that hard to believe is it? if you were in the market for one and you could get a new 07 GTS for under 70k drive away in the color you wanted you would buy one, the only difference is 200cc and probably d.o.d. they wont be discounting 08 6.2 until 09!!!!

REDVXSS
31-01-2008, 05:53 PM
Thats starting to make 5.7L look small.
Gunna have to start saving...VE 6.2 or Stroker? :)

Will have to wait and see 1st.

GDB
31-01-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah if that car has no/little options, that's pretty much what I am paying for my 08 GTS. It isn't THAT low (if at all!) to be very honest...

Hmm... I'm new to this forum; no way to edit previous post?

Anyway, I got home and checked on my paperwork: for the base car (i.e. without any options) I signed for LESS than $66,900 + LCT + stamp duty. Mind you this is for an '08 build car.

Regardless, I am not disputing LS3 is not coming. I do believe it'll come ("sooner or later", as 10,000 other posters seem to agree), but a $66,900 '07 GTS is probably not the indication of things to come (with all due respect, no flames intended).

BullockBob
31-01-2008, 11:22 PM
Was nearly going to start another thread just to b a prick but ... lol

My 10 centivos is that the hsv stock on the floor of the dealer that i visited today is heavily discounted. Mmmm

Was told that if i ordered a factory vehicle now, i could expect delivery around april or may. And it wouldn't ship with a 6.0L engine, but rather a 6.2L. That would b the only change in spec.

I don't think the sales dude could've said it any more straightforward than he did.

:smilesandbanana:

6.2L.Club
01-02-2008, 12:07 AM
Was nearly going to start another thread just to b a prick but ... lol

My 10 centivos is that the hsv stock on the floor of the dealer that i visited today is heavily discounted. Mmmm

Was told that if i ordered a factory vehicle now, i could expect delivery around april or may. And it wouldn't ship with a 6.0L engine, but rather a 6.2L. That would b the only change in spec.

I don't think the sales dude could've said it any more straightforward than he did.

:smilesandbanana:

Doesn't muck around doest he?! straight to the point.:lmao:


I could handle that.:dance:

what's this stealing plates/usernames deal?? :lol:

CS1234
01-02-2008, 12:25 AM
could that be like a series 2 upgrade then?

So you could only get a 6.2 ltr in the GTS and not anything else?

6.2L.Club
01-02-2008, 12:40 AM
VE doesn't come in serie 1, 2, 3 etc. Once they bring a new engine out in any model, in any car, the old one is no longer and is only sold until stocks are depleted.

Brandonsdad
01-02-2008, 08:33 AM
could that be like a series 2 upgrade then?

So you could only get a 6.2 ltr in the GTS and not anything else?

Theyll be in clubsports as well so I presume all HSVs will have them.

German Statesman
01-02-2008, 08:36 AM
In WA they are advertising 2007 GTS for 66,990+ Stamp duty.

Only way they advertise them that cheap is if something big is coming. I already told you guys what was coming, this is just another hint.

Maybe because its an '07 plate?? :yup:

zacaxel1975
01-02-2008, 08:54 AM
Theyll be in clubsports as well so I presume all HSVs will have them.

I think he means only 6.2 in GTS i.e. no 7.0

vyc4b
01-02-2008, 03:45 PM
Yet ANOTHER thread on this topic???
Seriously, considering HSV dealers are selling EVERY SINGLE ONE of the GTS versions they are allocated, and there's a several month waiting list, what reason would there be to majorly discount them!
That is where your theory falls apart....


So, in this age of heavily camoflaged pre-production models, and a heavily rumoured motor show special in a months time, one of these would just be driving around proudly displaying it's badges...???
Not likely.

You would think not.......but this mate works for Holden and has done so for quite a few years, and hes not usually prone to lying either.
I don't usually post everything I hear, nevertheless I thought it was relevant hear.......

planetdavo
01-02-2008, 06:19 PM
You would think not.......but this mate works for Holden and has done so for quite a few years, and hes not usually prone to lying either.
I don't usually post everything I hear, nevertheless I thought it was relevant hear.......
We all hope so....:yup:
I can see someone getting a bitchslapping from the bosses it that actually happened though...

Vulture
01-02-2008, 07:06 PM
I call BS on the 6.2lt.


Prepare yourself to be wrong.


if you were in the market for one and you could get a new 07 GTS for under 70k drive away in the color you wanted you would buy one, the only difference is 200cc and probably d.o.d. they wont be discounting 08 6.2 until 09!!!!

No, there is more than 200cc in it. L98 heads for a start. Bring it on I say. My order will be in as soon as confirmed.