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red_hot
14-02-2008, 06:35 PM
Hey guys.
Just shopping around for a new clutch.
I've gotten a few quotes for a tex, as i hear they're awesome.
Just wondering how much a stock holden clutch would set me back, as i really just need a cheap option for a temporary fix for the time being.
Anyone have any rough figures including fitment?
VXCAL346
14-02-2008, 06:40 PM
Not to sure how much a standard clutch is worth but when you say your after a cheap option, think of it like this. How much would you pay to keep your feet and lower legs, these are what your risking in using a cheap and nasty clutch.
I have seen the damage that a clutch can do when it decides it doesnt want to be inside the bell housing any longer. A bloke i know lost his left foot and 3 toes from his right foot and a cost of just under $10k worth of total damage to his car when his clutch let go at around 5000rpm.
red_hot
14-02-2008, 06:43 PM
Thanks for your concern, VXCAL, but by "cheap", i merely meant a brand new stocko Holden clutch.
Just wondering what the margin between this and a decent aftermarket job would be.
diabolic
14-02-2008, 06:48 PM
Not worth buying brand new IMO, either good condition second hand from someone upgrading, or bite the bullet and get a Tex yourself if you plan on keeping the car for some time..
Dan
BLACK 346
14-02-2008, 06:50 PM
Thanks for your concern, VXCAL, but by "cheap", i merely meant a brand new stocko Holden clutch.
Just wondering what the margin between this and a decent aftermarket job would be.
When he says cheap, he means cheap quality, they dont get much
cheaper in quality than the OEM unit as far as I know. Price might
be a different story. From memory the Tex Z is around the $1600
mark, allow about another $3-400 to install and a few more dollars
if you want to replace the master and slave at the same time,
oh and don't forget the braided line and fluid lol. Should see you
with change out of $2400, but if keeping the car at least you wont
be pulling it out again in 6 months :)
Or, just wack a stocky back in, drive like nanna and hope for the best.
Can i ask what your quotes were for the tex?
Mine is almost out of life too. Any prices of what people have paid for a particular clutch and what the fitment cost would be good.
Not just stock is s**t and tex or similar are good, because we all know this is why there are after market clutches available..
throttlehappy
14-02-2008, 07:06 PM
you should be looking at 2100 to 2200 for either a tex x grip or z grip with new slave, spigot, braided line, bleeder, fluid and fitting etc
the clutch kit itself is about 1430
excedy, extreme, centreforce are all cheaper as far as i know but i dont know much about them
red_hot
14-02-2008, 07:48 PM
Thanks for the replies, but i was mainly after the price of an OEM clutch fitted.
Any ideas?
Souljah
14-02-2008, 08:05 PM
About two years ago i enquired about a Genuine clutch and i was quoted around the $900 mark for just the clutch and pressure plate. I didnt look much into it after that haha.
Mungrel
14-02-2008, 08:07 PM
OEM clutch is about $1000 from memory (Genuine) + Fit
for an extra $250 you can upgrade to a Tex X or Z grip which will shit all over the oem clutch any day of the week...
If your getting rid of the car, put a stocker in.
If you're keeping it but only normal driving go the X, or if ya might head out the track occasionally, get the Z grip.
Trust me, nothing would piss you off more than fitting a stocker then having to rip it out again in a few months cause its shat itself again...
red_hot
14-02-2008, 08:42 PM
OEM clutch is about $1000 from memory (Genuine) + Fit
for an extra $250 you can upgrade to a Tex X or Z grip which will shit all over the oem clutch any day of the week...
If your getting rid of the car, put a stocker in.
If you're keeping it but only normal driving go the X, or if ya might head out the track occasionally, get the Z grip.
Trust me, nothing would piss you off more than fitting a stocker then having to rip it out again in a few months cause its shat itself again...
Thanks, i am intending on keeping the car, but i just don't have the means to put in a tex. From what i've gathered, they're around $1800 fitted.
But i'll see what i can scrape up.
I mean, if push comes to shove, i'd take the tex anyday, but i'm on a really tight budget for the next month or so and my clutch is starting to really shit itself.
Poor timing.
It sucks because given a few months down the track, i wouldn't have any qualms fitting in the best quality components.
Would an X-grip accomodate future mods? Like cam/heads, etc?
VXCAL346
14-02-2008, 08:48 PM
if your even considering future mods in the way of H/C then definitely go for the Z grip.
What's the diff between a Z grip and an X grip?
Mungrel
14-02-2008, 09:39 PM
What's the diff between a Z grip and an X grip?
X is more of a stock replacement (but stronger) - Girls clutch :jester:
Z is more of a street / strip clutch will cop a real hiding - Mans clutch
Then if ya wanna go all out ya can get a twin plate like me :eyes: that'll sort you out pretty quick :rofl:
throttlehappy
14-02-2008, 09:40 PM
What's the diff between a Z grip and an X grip?
the z is on/off, the x is not
the x is more street friendly but the z can handle more power and torque
i chose the x myself and a cam/maybe heads are future mods
X is more of a stock replacement (but stronger) - Girls clutch :jester:
Z is more of a street / strip clutch will cop a real hiding - Mans clutch
Then if ya wanna go all out ya can get a twin plate like me :eyes: that'll sort you out pretty quick :rofl:
you calling me a girl? lol
red_hot
14-02-2008, 09:46 PM
the z is on/off
So was my stocko. :jester:
Could be why i need a new one.
throttlehappy
14-02-2008, 09:53 PM
So was my stocko. :jester:
Could be why i need a new one.
stock is a waste of time and money
somtimes i think i could of gone for the z but im happy with my x
Mungrel
14-02-2008, 09:53 PM
you calling me a girl? lol
:lmao: nocomment :eyes:
naah i've never tried an X so i cant comment - i have recently tried a Z though and trust me, going from the twin plate to the Z, the Z feels like heaven! haha
Would i swap back though? hell no haha
pteropid
14-02-2008, 09:54 PM
Hey guys.
Just shopping around for a new clutch.
I've gotten a few quotes for a tex, as i hear they're awesome.
Just wondering how much a stock holden clutch would set me back, as i really just need a cheap option for a temporary fix for the time being.
Anyone have any rough figures including fitment?
Cost us $1070 fitted through Holden, the first $1000 was covered by our Holden certified warranty and the guys wrote off the other $70 given the dramas we have had with the car.
We were quoted about $1700 fitted for a Tex. Interestingly one of the Holden dealerships quoted $1800 fitted (very amusing) they thought they had us because the car was towed there when it crapped itself. My wifes response was:flipoff:
throttlehappy
14-02-2008, 09:58 PM
Cost us $1070 fitted through Holden, the first $1000 was covered by our Holden certified warranty and the guys wrote off the other $70 given the dramas we have had with the car.
We were quoted about $1700 fitted for a Tex. Interestingly one of the Holden dealerships quoted $1800 fitted (very amusing) they thought they had us because the car was towed there when it crapped itself. My wifes response was:flipoff:
obviously no new slave, spigot, braided line etc
slave is like 200
red_hot
14-02-2008, 10:04 PM
obviously no new slave, spigot, braided line etc
slave is like 200
Hmmm.... What's the benefit of having those things fitted?
Are they neccesary?
throttlehappy
14-02-2008, 10:15 PM
Hmmm.... What's the benefit of having those things fitted?
Are they neccesary?
some say yes others say no
i got the lot
L-iam
14-02-2008, 11:18 PM
im in the same boat at the moment.
i used to mave a mildly cammed 5lt VR, had a twinplate i used to be able to torture, how will the zgrip compare if in future i will be around 300RWKW ??? (300+ hopefully. . . )
macca_779
14-02-2008, 11:30 PM
obviously no new slave, spigot, braided line etc
slave is like 200
changing the spigot bearing should be an on condition replacement not a mandatory one. I should of got a braided line on mine cause my fluid goes off pretty quick up here. Slave.. Yep its a good idea because pulling the box is a pain in the arse and I didn't want to do it again in a hurry.
im in the same boat at the moment.
i used to mave a mildly cammed 5lt VR, had a twinplate i used to be able to torture, how will the zgrip compare if in future i will be around 300RWKW ??? (300+ hopefully. . . )
mate you wont have a problem with that kind of power in front of a Z grip
andy15762003
15-02-2008, 08:56 AM
for the love of god nooooo dont put a stock clutch back in
I did and the 6 months later in went a tex, the stocko one was worse than the shagged one that came out.
Save your coin and do it right the first time.
My total cost
$1800 for stocko ( less $1000 covered under waranty)
$1450 for Z grip tex kit
$350 for install
$500 for ripshifter
$3100 not including the $1k that was covered
in the end it cost me $800 to have a stocko that now sits on a shelf in the shed never to be used again
Andrew
Funky_Munky
15-02-2008, 09:15 AM
Hey man. Ive got a brand new X-Grip Tex clutch for sale if you are keen. It has been in the Marranos workshop for over a year because I never got around to installing it (plans changed for car).
It has got some rust on it because it was just lying around for so long, but its only surface rust. Let me know if you are keen. Will throw in a 2nd hand clutch plate (about 60% 'meat' left) for no extra cost.
REDVXSS
16-02-2008, 12:50 AM
Hi there,
Just put a Z-grip tex clutch in the car.
$1400 + $220 (slave cylinder) + $60 (fluid & sundries) = $1700 (diy installed).
The Z-grip has a little shudder but can handle PLENTY of power.
Once installed it can be used straight away (no bed-in time) and feels great :bow:
Had a Centerforce before which had a heavy pedal, new Z-grip is lighter.
Easy to use as an every day clutch and in the long run will be cheaper than a new Holden clutch and eventual a Tex clutch down the track.
Bite the bullet & get the Z-grip....you won't be disappointed!!!:love:
Cheers
John
6.2L.Club
16-02-2008, 02:18 AM
The old clutch wars :lmao:
I had an A.C.E. option 3 clutch by Mal Wood for 2 years, l ran it down the track a few times, was a cammed VZ and the results........?
Never shuddered once, l drove it like l stole it (people on here could vouch for that), never slipped, never lost pedal.
No problems what so ever, besides the heavier pedal than stock, it drove like a stock clutch.
Price, depends on who you know, l got my option 3 with lightened steel flywheel with braided supply and remote bleed lines for $1350 plus fitting if you can't do it yourself.
The option 3 is frequently used in mildly supercharged cars and Mal is currently working on an option 3 upgrade with an even higher clamping force.
i know of 2 Tex Z grip owners who will never get one ever again and another who has it shudder sometimes but has to flog it to get it to stop.
My advice......shop around, there's a a hell of a lot more than Tex out there. Despite all claims, no one manufacturer is best.
byohsv
16-02-2008, 05:31 AM
Not to sure how much a standard clutch is worth but when you say your after a cheap option, think of it like this. How much would you pay to keep your feet and lower legs, these are what your risking in using a cheap and nasty clutch.
I have seen the damage that a clutch can do when it decides it doesnt want to be inside the bell housing any longer. A bloke i know lost his left foot and 3 toes from his right foot and a cost of just under $10k worth of total damage to his car when his clutch let go at around 5000rpm.
Shit thats bad luck was it kickback or did housing come through floor
Holden parts sell stock clutch kit for around $550
red_hot
16-02-2008, 08:10 AM
Thank you all for your input.
I've decided that it's a stupid idea to throw in a Holden clutch and i shall probably hit up a Tex X-grip.
Yeah, yeah - i know it's a softer option, but my car is mainly going to be a street car, i don't see it hitting a track at all.
I've spoken to a few people and apparently it'll be more than enough for a H/C combo down the line.
Just need to scrape together enough dosh for a ripshift now.
-Neil.
Oversteer
16-02-2008, 08:16 AM
Good choice mate...anything is better than the OEM clutch!! Before going the ripshift id advise to try and put some money towards a new slave and braided line also while the whole lot is out...will give the pedal better feel and response and possibly save more money in the long run, unless you have already factored that in!
You'll love it :burnout:
red_hot
16-02-2008, 08:28 AM
Good choice mate...anything is better than the OEM clutch!! Before going the ripshift id advise to try and put some money towards a new slave and braided line also while the whole lot is out...will give the pedal better feel and response and possibly save more money in the long run, unless you have already factored that in!
You'll love it :burnout:
Yeah, i'm getting a braided line and a breather mod done.
As for the slave, i was told that since the car's only done 60K, it should be right.
Feel free to correct me if that's wrong, guys.
Y55-7UT
16-02-2008, 08:36 AM
[QUOTE=Oversteer;1150152]...anything is better than the OEM clutch!!
QUOTE]
unless its s LS7 clutch out of 7L ZO6 corvette, can hold about over 500RWHP, thats over 350rwkw, but for under $1000AU delivered with a Fidanza LS2 light billet aluminum flywheel (6KG), standard about 9kg/standard LS7 is about 11kg
searchup about them, stock pedal feel, more clamping force, 20 something?% more surface area
titanium has one in his VE SS search for his thread
BLACK 346
16-02-2008, 08:38 AM
Yeah, i'm getting a braided line and a breather mod done.
As for the slave, i was told that since the car's only done 60K, it should be right.
Feel free to correct me if that's wrong, guys.
I had a slave fail at 18k. Dont think anyone would recommend
putting a 60k old slave back in.
red_hot
16-02-2008, 09:06 AM
I had a slave fail at 18k. Dont think anyone would recommend
putting a 60k old slave back in.
Shit.
Actually had a forum sponsor essentially say "she'll be right".
Y55-7UT
16-02-2008, 09:08 AM
change it to be safe, it will save me pulllin my box back out for a $200 part, you wouldnt replace the slave and keep the stock clutch in
throttlehappy
16-02-2008, 10:17 AM
youll like the x, its a good allrounder
red_hot
16-02-2008, 10:21 AM
youll like the x, its a good allrounder
I hope so, mate.
I tend to treat my clutches the way i treat my liver.
Hopefully this one will be strong enough to deal with it.
BLACK 346
16-02-2008, 11:01 AM
Shit.
Actually had a forum sponsor essentially say "she'll be right".
Which one? If "she'll be right", turns into "she is rooted" what will
the sponsor say then? I know, something like, "the box is going
to have to come out again" :)
throttlehappy
16-02-2008, 12:44 PM
I hope so, mate.
I tend to treat my clutches the way i treat my liver.
Hopefully this one will be strong enough to deal with it.
we've got somthing in common then ;)
itll be right
red_hot
16-02-2008, 03:43 PM
we've got somthing in common then ;)
itll be right
I count two things.
Liver abuse by way of whiskey and clutch abuse.
:jester:
I'll be moving to Melbs sometime later this year.
Should get together and discuss the finer points of the x-grip over a few JDs.
throttlehappy
16-02-2008, 05:27 PM
I count two things.
Liver abuse by way of whiskey and clutch abuse.
:jester:
I'll be moving to Melbs sometime later this year.
Should get together and discuss the finer points of the x-grip over a few JDs.
hahaha pisser
should do that
VXRacer
17-02-2008, 07:21 PM
I have a Centerforce, am told it will hold 1000hp but not sure about that.. Feels great, no slip or shudder but a bit stiffer than oem. Clutch was $950 from memory, fitting I am not sure as it went on with the motor out??
Mungrel
17-02-2008, 07:35 PM
Mate, personally i think you're insane if you don't replace the slave cylinder.
If you've had the car since new and literally babied it everywhere, sure you might get away with it. I replaced my clutch at 57,000ks and the slave was pretty ordinary mate.
Look at it this way.
Slave cylinder = Additional $200
Labour = $0 as box already out
If you put it back in and it fails in 500ks,
Slave cylinder = Addtional $200
Labour = Gearbox out again = lots of $$$
Souljah
17-02-2008, 07:45 PM
I had my slave cyl and spigot bearing changed while the box was out when i was getting my Z grip fitted. As Mungrel and alot of people have said it can potentially save alot of time and money later on.
Josho
17-02-2008, 07:51 PM
z grips are good for 850hp
red_hot
17-02-2008, 07:52 PM
Fair enough, guys.
Thanks for all your insight.
I've pretty much made a decision about biting the bullet and hitting up a decent tex + slave + braided lines.
So expect a new topic in the near future about how i'm enjoying the 'bedding in' process. :jester:
ssgirl2
18-02-2008, 09:25 AM
...I've pretty much made a decision about biting the bullet and hitting up a decent tex + slave + braided lines...
You may also need a spigot bearing :)
I prefer the X...:girl:
red_hot
18-02-2008, 09:31 AM
You may also need a spigot bearing :)
I prefer the X...:girl:
Yeah, i think i would prefer it also, Kirsten, but i'm going to throw a smallish cam into the car. Will the X be able to take the extra torque and power?
ssgirl2
18-02-2008, 09:49 AM
Yeah, i think i would prefer it also, Kirsten, but i'm going to throw a smallish cam into the car. Will the X be able to take the extra torque and power?
Yes, it will take the extra torque and power on the street AND have a stock feel to it.
If you're going to play at the strip...go for the Z (much stronger, has different manners to the stock/X grip and it can make annoying - to me - noises).
Mungrel
18-02-2008, 10:53 PM
would that be the occasional little squeel?
My exo makes that every time i take off (more to do with my style i think)
it doesnt bother me. :)
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