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mak08u
17-04-2008, 03:55 PM
What has gone wrong...and Dealerships Attempts at Fixing it
Clunk in front end when turning and changing Camber.... 4 times still not fixed Started at 1000kms taken in a few times was "fixed for 20kms- 100km of driving after each service/inspection Still Yet to be fixed... the clunk is loud enough to turn heads at shopping center car parks to look at what made noise...
Battery collapsed at 1400km.... new battery and update done on electronics also fixed a scroll problem with the steering wheel up date...
Throttle Jammed at full open in peak our traffic, Damage done to clutch and revved of its redline for 10sec, also glazed the break disc due to traction control cutting in at the time.
Take to holden straight away and told that there was 2 errors on the tech 2, they pulled the throttle body apart and found nothing wrong with it put it back together and said “don’t know” ... that what you want to hear...
Clutch shudder: Due to above circumstance told by service department all holdens have a clutch shudder... mine happens at 2500-3500rpm when under heavy acceleration.
Driver door lock Noisy: taking it in tomorrow to be looked at
25,000km Power steering is whining on idle and make noises like a old vr commy under full lock.
Also steering has got heavier... Getting it looked at tomorrow at 30,000km service
Note has plenty of fluid in power steering... the noise is getting louder
Am i happy with the car... yes. Would i buy one again. NO
I would hate to see what a VE commodore looks and sounds like after 100,000km. Bad luck mate, sell the brick and go buy a euro.
GODSMACK
17-04-2008, 04:19 PM
Clunk in front end when turning and changing Camber.... 4 times still not fixed <--- I hear ya. My car goes back in on the 23rd for the same issue, this will be the 5th time ive returned it, its a f'n joke... Apparently the engineer's at Holden told the stealership to change all my radius rod bushes.. I wont hold my breath.
mak08u
17-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Yeah i will have to wait and see... i hope they fix it this time as i will aslo have a new set of 20's fitted that afternoon. I made sure that i wait till after the service so there is no excuse. The car is standard all over.
Danv8
17-04-2008, 04:36 PM
I would hate to see what a VE commodore looks and sounds like after 100,000km. Bad luck mate, sell the brick and go buy a euro.
What happens if he buys a Euro and it turns out to be a dud?
No Guarantees on what the next car will be like.
To the OP
Have you tried another dealer and see if they can solve your woes?.
mak08u
17-04-2008, 04:45 PM
Have you tried another dealer and see if they can solve your woes?.
No i would like to think that the dealership that i purchased the car from should fix the problem...
But that is the next step if this sevice is goes bad... plus a complaint to the manager of that loaction is the next step...
Power steering is whining on idle and make noises like a old vr commy under full lock.
Your should never hold power steering at full lock. You should always just back of a fraction when you hit lock. If you've been holding it at full lock, you could have caused damage.
mak08u
17-04-2008, 05:32 PM
Your should never hold power steering at full lock. You should always just back of a fraction when you hit lock. If you've been holding it at full lock, you could have caused damage.
i have never held the car at full lock... i was refering to the noise like a vr commy at full lock when just general drive at slow speeds... it moans and groans at the slights use when driving slowly... For example residentual areas when i turn in to streets in whines but no whine at 60km/h plus
Calais V 6.0
17-04-2008, 06:26 PM
I too have the knock in the front end and the power steering is noisy at idle and under any steering imput.
The car was at Holden for the day last week and came back the same as it went in. They did however replace my key buttons as they had worn alot for a car of its age.
pursuit1980
17-04-2008, 06:42 PM
Clunk in front end when turning and changing Camber.... 4 times still not fixed <--- I hear ya. My car goes back in on the 23rd for the same issue, this will be the 5th time ive returned it, its a f'n joke... Apparently the engineer's at Holden told the stealership to change all my radius rod bushes.. I wont hold my breath.
YEP, mine has the same exact issue. To me it sounds like it comes from the front driver side suspension, and sounds almost like you have loose wheel nuts or something and the wheel is moving all over the threads. Of course its not, but thats the sound i hear, "clunk" sound.
I havnt taken it to be checked out yet, as its happened from new but on my 15k service I forgot to mention it.
And yes, I've gone past someone in a shopping centre carpark and it made the noise, the person looked puzzled..... almost like "geeze mate, your brand new car just clunked like an old shopping trolley!"
Gotta love that!
CeeVee8
17-04-2008, 06:51 PM
My VE SS ute has just spent a week at the dealer for the "ve clunk" finally tracked it down to the engine mounts.
Calais V 6.0
17-04-2008, 07:02 PM
My VE SS ute has just spent a week at the dealer for the "ve clunk" finally tracked it down to the engine mounts.
Cheers, I will ask them to check that. Mine is also on the front right.
mak08u
17-04-2008, 07:50 PM
My VE SS ute has just spent a week at the dealer for the "ve clunk" finally tracked it down to the engine mounts.[/QUOTE
[QUOTE=pursuit1980;1203589]YEP, mine has the same exact issue. To me it sounds like it comes from the front driver side suspension, and sounds almost like you have loose wheel nuts or something and the wheel is moving all over the threads. Of course its not, but thats the sound i hear, "clunk" sound.
I havnt taken it to be checked out yet, as its happened from new but on my 15k service I forgot to mention it.
And yes, I've gone past someone in a shopping centre carpark and it made the noise, the person looked puzzled..... almost like "geeze mate, your brand new car just clunked like an old shopping trolley!"
Gotta love that!
yeah thats the noise i had the same thing happen to me at a shopping centre... thats when i knew i wasn't dreaming. I will get them to check the engine mounts... did they say what was up with the mounts?
Micks
17-04-2008, 08:04 PM
My advice is to keep on the Dealers case until you're satisfied the problems are fixed. All reports the VE is a sound car this does not mean that any one vehicle is without problems...I know many people who put up with certain things with their new vehicle due to being jerked around by these dealers.
Hope you get it sorted Pronto
You could be disappointed going elsewhere...
Cheers
VYT
What happens if he buys a Euro and it turns out to be a dud?
No Guarantees on what the next car will be like.
As many have said before, holden churn out heaps of cars so that means the percentage of cars produced with problems will be higher than some brands. We are seeing too many threads about problems with holdens and especially the new VE. It's looking to be extremely painful to own a v8 these days and rips your pride to pieces when you have these poofy assembly line problems. You have to feel for the younger generation who just want to jump into a V8 for the first time only to get the problems most of us older crowd have seen for some time yet. It's easy for us to tell the poor bloke to "harden the f up" when it's not your money. Everyone reacts differently to car troubles and not all of us will put up with shit just to own a v8.
My VE SS ute has just spent a week at the dealer for the "ve clunk" finally tracked it down to the engine mounts.
Yep, got my 3000k service done and told them about the clunk. They told me it could be the swaybar rubbers or the engine mounts, also said there is specific date for cutoff on replacing the mounts and rubbers.
Whether there was a bad batch, wouldnt say!
CeeVee8
17-04-2008, 11:03 PM
My car was built Feb. 08 so I'm not sure about cut off dates etc.
VESSWA
18-04-2008, 03:38 AM
I had more of a metallic "click" than a "clunk" on shopping centre speed bumps or over driveways etc. Holden couldn't replicate it as I'm sure that day they were stone deaf. When I had the car lowered, all gone! I suspect it was the front springs? All good now though:)
mak08u
18-04-2008, 06:52 AM
mine is june 07
As many have said before, holden churn out heaps of cars so that means the percentage of cars produced with problems will be higher than some brands. We are seeing too many threads about problems with holdens and especially the new VE. It's looking to be extremely painful to own a v8 these days and rips your pride to pieces when you have these poofy assembly line problems. You have to feel for the younger generation who just want to jump into a V8 for the first time only to get the problems most of us older crowd have seen for some time yet. It's easy for us to tell the poor bloke to "harden the f up" when it's not your money. Everyone reacts differently to car troubles and not all of us will put up with shit just to own a v8.
Well this is my second V8... I don't expect not to have problem but!... the way in which the car is being treated by Holden’s service department is a real let down. I was mainly voicing what problems I have had. Mainly out of curiosity to see if mine is a lemon or is just the VE.
Has any had a throttle Jam Yet?
Or is mines the only one yet...
Things like this don’t make you feel confident about the way they are put together and how the problems are solved.
Danv8
18-04-2008, 07:17 AM
As many have said before, holden churn out heaps of cars so that means the percentage of cars produced with problems will be higher than some brands. We are seeing too many threads about problems with holdens and especially the new VE. It's looking to be extremely painful to own a v8 these days and rips your pride to pieces when you have these poofy assembly line problems. You have to feel for the younger generation who just want to jump into a V8 for the first time only to get the problems most of us older crowd have seen for some time yet. It's easy for us to tell the poor bloke to "harden the f up" when it's not your money. Everyone reacts differently to car troubles and not all of us will put up with shit just to own a v8.
And there are also cars as already explained that cost a lot more than the usual commy/falcon and still have as many problems.
I wont get into what trouble of my sister inlaws husbands 07 Mercedes Benz S500 electrical troubles that its plagued with cos I dont have time to list it down. But then he did pay a lot of dosh for it and its plagued with electrical plaque.
As someone has already said if you dont like Holdens then why are you here?
Im not going to join an aussie mercedes forum and plight out trolling in them.
Sorry about that I thought I was going to have the day off and im grumpy about it.:vpo:
hsvazz
18-04-2008, 12:19 PM
I think i've had this same clunk noise in my Feb 08 build Clubby, it goes in for it's 3000km service on Monday so I'll be telling them about it, will let you know what they think.
GMLSI
28-04-2008, 01:07 PM
I also have the same problem with my SS. I need to get it fixed before I lower it otherwise they will try to blame that.
bwhinnen
28-04-2008, 01:14 PM
I think i've had this same clunk noise in my Feb 08 build Clubby, it goes in for it's 3000km service on Monday so I'll be telling them about it, will let you know what they think.
Slow speed left hand corners?
GODSMACK
28-04-2008, 01:15 PM
Clunk in front end when turning and changing Camber.... 4 times still not fixed <--- I hear ya. My car goes back in on the 23rd for the same issue, this will be the 5th time ive returned it, its a f'n joke... Apparently the engineer's at Holden told the stealership to change all my radius rod bushes.. I wont hold my breath. "UPDATE" - my car went in on the 23rd, has the radius Rod Bushes changed, problem is still there. rang stealership this morning, now i await a phone call to see what we do next... Car has been back no less that 5 times now...
GMLSI
28-04-2008, 01:18 PM
Mine is only when turning right. Quite an annoying since the car has only done 1000kms.
sandmanls1
28-04-2008, 01:34 PM
when are holden going to get it right they have had front suspension problems since the vr/vs as well as power steering. WHere did the $1 billion go? Good luck hope they fix it quickly.
Brandonsdad
28-04-2008, 01:51 PM
What has gone wrong...and Dealerships Attempts at Fixing it
Clunk in front end when turning and changing Camber.... 4 times still not fixed Started at 1000kms taken in a few times was "fixed for 20kms- 100km of driving after each service/inspection Still Yet to be fixed... the clunk is loud enough to turn heads at shopping center car parks to look at what made noise...
Battery collapsed at 1400km.... new battery and update done on electronics also fixed a scroll problem with the steering wheel up date...
Throttle Jammed at full open in peak our traffic, Damage done to clutch and revved of its redline for 10sec, also glazed the break disc due to traction control cutting in at the time.
Take to holden straight away and told that there was 2 errors on the tech 2, they pulled the throttle body apart and found nothing wrong with it put it back together and said “don’t know” ... that what you want to hear...
Clutch shudder: Due to above circumstance told by service department all holdens have a clutch shudder... mine happens at 2500-3500rpm when under heavy acceleration.
Driver door lock Noisy: taking it in tomorrow to be looked at
25,000km Power steering is whining on idle and make noises like a old vr commy under full lock.
Also steering has got heavier... Getting it looked at tomorrow at 30,000km service
Note has plenty of fluid in power steering... the noise is getting louder
Am i happy with the car... yes. Would i buy one again. NO
You havent been using the dealerships here in Adelaide have you?
They dont seem to know very much. Maybe they should peruse this forum.
singo79
16-07-2008, 05:33 PM
I don't know if someone has already said this as I have come in on the arse end of this post, but have they tried tightening the shock absorber bolts? I had a similar knocking but in my rear end. When the mechanics did a full inspection they said that the shocky bolts were loose and that it was quite generic for the VE commodores to have loose shocky bolts... good to hear it is such an inherent defect!
SV346
16-07-2008, 07:04 PM
Just have a good go at a few big speed bumps see what happens to the noise :smilesandbanana:
weldforce
16-07-2008, 07:20 PM
i would take the car to another delear mate theres nothing worse than having a new car that has got problems, the reason we buy new cars is not to put up with shitty repairs that should be happening at 200,000
VE hsv maloo
16-07-2008, 08:51 PM
Great ive just paid 70000 for problems ! Ahh ! Cant wait for the 6.2 litre to start flooing around in the engine bay on a broken mount :bawl:
WH Captain
16-07-2008, 11:06 PM
hmmm a few of these probs sound familiar..
the knocking in suspension when turning right and up/down kerbs and heavy braking is a major one that i had.. took it to my dealership and they blamed me having pedders in it.. they said your modded suspension has damaged :vpo:everything from the strut nut at the top, right down to the strut tower itself!!
After many heated calls bout it being 10000 kms old and its strut failing (which is crap):flipoff: due to a different spring fitted they came to the party and went halves in the bill!! I Had it all replaced and have 7 parts sitting in front of me (bushes strut rubbers caps nuts) and i must say its fixed! it drives so much better now.:)
boxcutter
17-10-2008, 10:20 AM
just had my front right hand clunk fixed today.Straight away on the phone he new what it was.Upper strut bearings.All good now
ljupco
17-10-2008, 10:33 AM
If I was you, I'd sell it and get another.
Same thing happen to my VT SS when it was first released. Biggest pile of sh8t ever, at one stage the driver seat snapped of its bottom plate.
Traded it in at the same dealer, for a VX, its been 5 years now, touch wood, she's going strong.
Its like anything else mate, always 1 chance in 100, that someone will get a dud.
ATOMICSS
17-10-2008, 05:08 PM
My VE had the dreaded and very noticeable clunk, that the dealer couldnt bothered fixing. In the end I couldnt be bothered hassling them any more and just learned to live with it as a normal fault in a cheap car.
Then it went into WA suspensions for some lowering springs. I didnt mention the problem to them, and didnt even ask them to look into it (hey it's not their problem). On pickup it wasnt mentioned either..... but the clunk was 100% gone and hasn't returned since. Car drives better to boot and rides just as well too.
Perhaps there a 5 minute fix for this that some dealers just haven't cottoned onto.
smacx
21-10-2008, 02:19 AM
I have the same clunking noise in my oct 07 build ss. I have been in 4 times so far. They have replaced all the bushings 3 times, apparently the rubber holden was using was found to be defective, on the 3rd time i got the new stuff. Still making the noise so they replaced the upper strut bearings and also replaced the strut tops (i think thats what they said). The noise is less frequent now but still there. I am going to take it back in when it goes for its 30k service next week. I am also having a few transmission issues. The changes are not smooth anymore, there can be anything up to about a 2 second delay before the next gear engages. My wife nearly killed herself when the auto decided to shift into second, the clutches engaged and the engine revved to about 5000rpm then it decided to actually disengage into second. She explained it was like she was driving at a manual at 40kph then put the clutch in revved the crap out of it and dropped the clutch.
I have also had the battery problem at around 1500kms, have had the steering wheel replaced as the leather was coming away from it, the center part of the dash replaced as the speaker thing had shifted and the driver and passenger airbags replaced. I don't know what to do, at the rate it is going I am going to run out of warranty before I get all this sorted. The dealership is really good but between needing the car for work etc and trying to get it in to the workshop it is hard to get the issues seen to.
Also does anyone else have some really loud clunking noises shifting in and out of Park and Drive.
I have wanted to own an SS for years, I finally get one and I get nothing but dissapointment
cheers
Dan
bonners
21-10-2008, 06:58 AM
I have wanted to own an SS for years, I finally get one and I get nothing but dissapointment
cheers
Dan
Dan I couldn't agree more. Finally get myslef a SSV, owned it for two months, it goes back in to get some things fixed and comes back a pile of bolts. (see my thread titled Gutted)
I just don't get it. How does Holden even think that giving me a car back to me in that state is acceptable.
HYMEY
21-10-2008, 07:21 AM
The tailshaft bolts were loose on mine. I simply refuse for Holden to work on it. Would rather repair it myself. But in saying that no problem here with the suspension issues. My bet is strut thrust bearings. Its the only thing I can think of that takes impact for a noticeable clunk.
SSV8TE
21-10-2008, 04:17 PM
Why hasnt someone started i hate holden serice department thread.:rofl::rofl:
Mine went in for 2k check and came out with that many rattles. Most were in the heat shielding under the ute. Fixed now but holden aint touching my car again.
Cheers all and best of luck,
Andy.
splcrazy1
03-11-2008, 09:05 PM
i have the same problem in my ve ss , its an 06 . it sounds like its coming from the front right wheel , and sounds like a big heavy clunk of steel shifting under pressure , it went away for a long time havnt heard it for almost a year and then a couple weeks ago turning right and bang heard it again . i had a vy ss series two and loved that car , sometimes i wish i never traded it in for this ve ss which i thought was better car in some way . man i reackon i should trade in my ve ss and go down a model and just get a VZ SS . so far in the VE SS after having it for nearly 3 years im not really that happy with it , the clunk noise pisses me off and the auto is sha8t
still i think what happened to the guy in the first post of this thread is scray , crikey i wouldnt want my throttle to jam open in peakhour traffic thats a nightmare , getting rid of the trottle cable for a sensor was a huge mistake that holden made , jeez everything has a damn sensor for the cars these days except for a sensor to warn you that your car is gonna piss you off
Wonky
03-11-2008, 09:24 PM
As singo79 said, many of the problems seem to be loose shock absorber or strut tower nuts, which possibly explains why when people have new springs fitted the problem suddenly disappears.
There is another thread explaining that the nut under the top washer on the strut tower has proven to be the culprit in some cases. Check that and you may find the answer to your clunking.
BadSeed
03-11-2008, 09:44 PM
i hate reading these posts.. its so dissapointing that all you guys have had heaps of problems with your pride and joys. touch wood i havent had a single problem in 12,000k's / 9 months
Wonky
03-11-2008, 10:14 PM
i hate reading these posts.. its so dissapointing that all you guys have had heaps of problems with your pride and joys. touch wood i havent had a single problem in 12,000k's / 9 months
Yeah, me either! Just clocked over 20,000km and apart from something I can't even remember now that was a minor niggle and fixed immediately my car has been fantastic! (Despite over 120 dyno runs now..... :shock:). Is now pulling harder than ever! (It, not me! :lol:)
bonners
04-11-2008, 06:58 AM
I hate reading these posts also but I understand. I almost don't enjoy driving my car anymore and its only 3 months old. Maybe when I get some of these things fitted and my mods done by someone who knows what theya re doing (ie not the dealer) the car will be in much better shape and I'll be happy again.
HEXEM
04-11-2008, 07:42 AM
Mine has developed the dreaded front clunk and bang when turning on round a bouts in carpark etc etc etc... It did stop for a while but now its back.
Its going in on Friday for bottom plate (strut) insulators and some other part to stop the spring from moving.... Also I am having the swaybar link pins changed and have asked them to change the top strut bearings as I have read they can add to the problem.
Easier to get those done while they have the struts out.. I will post up how it goes after the work.
I can understand why people would be annoyed at these issues. I love driving my car and I think that places like this forum greatly help to speed up the fixing process on alot of issues so you can get back to more important things like!!!.... enjoying the drive... :)
JMO
Cheers
Phil
P.S. I think it also helps if you have a dealer who is willing to work through the issues with you. I know I am lucky to have one..
bonners
04-11-2008, 07:53 AM
My dealer seems to be willing work through mine but I guess my issue is that it's getting frustrating that I have to keep going back in there. I've probably been a little over the top. I do love the car but when all these thing pile up it just gets annoying.
splcrazy1
04-11-2008, 09:22 AM
yeah i hate reading posts like these aswell , its kinda like denying your self that ther is no problem or dont want there to be a problem . before singning up to this forum i thought i was the only one with this sort of prob i even told a mechanic somewhere and he said im maybe just imagining it ...
if so many people are having the same prob with with bangs and noises coming from the front right hand wheel how long does it have to take holden to understand and recgognise there is a prob that everyone is having to do a re call and call all the customers to bring in their car to get fixed . This is holdens stuff up we are not crazy and we're not imagining noises .
You ask me were the billions went into making this car ? it went into the hands and pockets of the holden design team and they just spent the usual amount of money as they always do when making a new car , but this time even less damn i never seen so much crappy plastic interior , ill say it again my previous model VY SS was so much better .
loudyeller
04-11-2008, 10:04 AM
Ive had that same clunck ever since I bought it new.. I didnt worry about it to much because I was getting Teins..But now Ive had them put in its still there. Dont know if Holden wil;l come to the party now. Its only ever after I back out of the drive way and start going forward, clunk , then its all good.. You would think that they would have picked it up ..Mines an MY09.
[ TATTS ]
04-11-2008, 08:55 PM
Hi All, I to have the clunk. The dealer told me that the new sports wagon has the problem fixed. If this is true they then will let the dealers have the part to fix the problem for the rest of us. Does any one have a wagon with this problem????
Jeftt
04-11-2008, 09:17 PM
Like you have exactly the same noise, mines done 6000 ks, haven't worried about it either. What Ive noticed having a white SS, under the hood in engine bay, top of shock bodies are starting to discolor and a burn stain is starting to appear in the paintwork, weird.
HEXEM
04-11-2008, 09:26 PM
;1367151']Hi All, I to have the clunk. The dealer told me that the new sports wagon has the problem fixed. If this is true they then will let the dealers have the part to fix the problem for the rest of us. Does any one have a wagon with this problem????
Sorry TATTS if I have misunderstood your post. But if the dealer told you that the clunk was fixed in the sportwagon! couldn't he tell you what it was that fixed the issue?... Or what was causing it? hmm....
When you mention 'They will let the dealers have the part' I am assuming you mean Holden (GMH) will be able to send the part to all dealers to fix the issue.. This might be the bottom strut insulator that has been available for a little while now. I know it is not on the new cars in the lot as I have had a look for it. From what I understand it is a service fix for peoples springs moving on the bottom strut plate. Rather than replacing springs and struts to get a set that dont move this might be a cheaper alternative for Holden... "Maybe"...
Cheers
Phil
Like you have exactly the same noise, mines done 6000 ks, haven't worried about it either. What Ive noticed having a white SS, under the hood in engine bay, top of shock bodies are starting to discolor and a burn stain is starting to appear in the paintwork, weird.
I saw this very "orange" sort of discolouration on the top of the strut tower just under the big disc with the rubber edge last weekend. I think it was on the W427 (White) at the Canberra HSV show and shine day. I noticed it as I was discussing the OTR CAI and other bits with another person....
Yep just check the photo I took and you can see it under that disc.. Heres the pic, you'll see the brown colour just under the disc, I touched it and it wasn't dirt..
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/VE-SSV/ACT%20-%20HSV%20Club%20Day/HSVDAYGHS052.jpg
Cheers
Phil
[ TATTS ]
04-11-2008, 09:44 PM
HI Phil , this bottom strut insulator sounds like what the dealer was explaining to me . The last time I spoke to the dealer was about 2 months ago. Is the inslatuor only new ?
HEXEM
04-11-2008, 09:51 PM
;1367181']HI Phil , this bottom strut insulator sounds like what the dealer was explaining to me . The last time I spoke to the dealer was about 2 months ago. Is the inslatuor only new ?
Yeah TATTS from what I understand it is. They are being fitted to my SSV on Friday. There are 2 parts, 1 is the insulator and there is another part which I cant remember.
I am also getting them to replace the swaybar link pins and top strut bearings.. I'll post up the results on the weekend if there is a noticable improvement...
Cheers
Jeftt
04-11-2008, 10:31 PM
Gooday Phill, the burn or discoloration on mine is more predominant on the driver side but also appearing on other side as wellhttp://DSC00147.JPG
aaron__aus
05-11-2008, 12:04 AM
I too had the noise from the front end. It was discovered to be a faulty sway bar link, 'D' brushes and brakes rattling.. apparently not unusual for these new VE's... they replaced the brake caliper shims and sway bar link 'D' brushes, no noise since then...
HEXEM
05-11-2008, 06:19 AM
I too had the noise from the front end. It was discovered to be a faulty sway bar link, 'D' brushes and brakes rattling.. apparently not unusual for these new VE's... they replaced the brake caliper shims and sway bar link 'D' brushes, no noise since then...
Thanks for the feedback aaron.. Every bit helps I wreckon.. :)
[ TATTS ]
05-11-2008, 06:45 PM
HI All , spoke to the dealer two day and told him whats been said here and expland that this is what i want to be do next WEDNesday . Will keep you posted.
CHEERS TATTS
HEXEM
05-11-2008, 08:19 PM
;1367715']HI All , spoke to the dealer two day and told him whats been said here and expland that this is what i want to be do next WEDNesday . Will keep you posted.
CHEERS TATTS
TATTS,
When my car is done on Friday I will post up the holden part numbers for you to quote to the dealer. The bottom strut insulator is not listed on the parts system yet!..
aaron__aus
06-11-2008, 07:47 AM
Thanks for the feedback aaron.. Every bit helps I wreckon.. :)
Yeah, I reckon too - unfortunately some of these VE's have a lot of issues - nothing that can't be sorted with a LOT of patience though - I don't have much of that however ;)
bonners
06-11-2008, 07:50 AM
yep, patience is wearing very thin I can tell you
DansVEPanno
06-11-2008, 03:38 PM
I've had mine for almost 8000k's and had a problem where when you pull back firmly on the top of the steering wheel, the horn would go off. I thought it was possibly a new feature! But no, it was something to do with the air bag part pushing on the horn or something.
Also my passenger side floot mat anchors came off a few times. Holden instructed the dealer to glue them to the carpet. Not the most ideal, but they're firm as now.
Also my Carryboy canopy has had a few faults - I think they do the best work but they're not necessarily the most organised outfit.
But all that has been quite minor, and I absolutely love the car. There have been no mechanical problems. And the dealer (City Motors in WA) has looked after me pretty well. I'd definitely buy another Holden if I didn't already own two!!!
HEXEM
08-11-2008, 09:39 AM
Well I picked up the car after having the work done and its still making noises.
They removed the front struts,
- placed in the bottom insulators (looks just like a thin peice of rubber mat - dodgy if you ask me. I looked at some 2008 cars on the lot and they dont have the insulator)
- replaced swaybar link pins
- replaced the swaybar D-bushes again (which were replaced with revised ones about 2 months ago) apparently there is even a newer one. Difference with these is where the split is located. Instead of being on split being on bottom it is now to the side.
- Top strut Bearings and Strut Mounts (L&R)
- The rear springs were replaced 2 weeks ago due to a creeking sound in the left rear. Now the left rear is clunking. (They retensioned the rear)
- And the engine mounts were replaced about 4 months ago to the revised ones.
Now I am getting a bit tired of the issue... Why is it so hard to fix.. Admittedly the clunking doesn't seem to be as bad as before. Maybe I should wait to see if things settle.
Cheers
Phil
HEXEM
24-11-2008, 06:56 PM
Well I picked up the car after having the work done and its still making noises.
They removed the front struts,
- placed in the bottom insulators (looks just like a thin peice of rubber mat - dodgy if you ask me. I looked at some 2008 cars on the lot and they dont have the insulator)
- replaced swaybar link pins
- replaced the swaybar D-bushes again (which were replaced with revised ones about 2 months ago) apparently there is even a newer one. Difference with these is where the split is located. Instead of being on split being on bottom it is now to the side.
- Top strut Bearings and Strut Mounts (L&R)
- The rear springs were replaced 2 weeks ago due to a creeking sound in the left rear. Now the left rear is clunking. (They retensioned the rear)
- And the engine mounts were replaced about 4 months ago to the revised ones.
Now I am getting a bit tired of the issue... Why is it so hard to fix.. Admittedly the clunking doesn't seem to be as bad as before. Maybe I should wait to see if things settle.
Cheers
Phil
Hi All,
Here is an update.
I had one of the top Techs at my dealership work on my car last weeks to go over and tighten all K-Frame bolts, lower control arms, gearbox mounts, etc etc. What he found was the ball joint nuts at the end of the lower control arms (caster rod etc) where they connect to the wheel hub were quite loose. Need more than usual adjustment.
This made a huge difference and could not longer hear the clunk. Well on the weekend we drove to Nowra on the NSW south coast (up the hume hwy) then onto one of the most shittest roads around. Shake rattle and bump, (Holden should use it to test their cars). On after about 2 day on the coast the "Clunk" came back but not that often.
I thought surely those nuts didnt come loose that quickly. On the way home driving past the Canberra Airport into the round-a-bouts the clunk came into full force. It would clunk half way into it and on the way out. This continued on every round-a-bout on the way home.
I drove into my street at about 40klm and did the "V8 Supercar Tyre Warm Up" thing where they turn side to side quickly. Well there it was "clunk" "clunk" "clunk" "clunk". This morning I took it to my dealer and took the big boss of service for a drive. The car performed the noise on demand.
Took cut this story short. I thought the clunk was front end. The clunk is coming from the rear and transmitting the noise to the front. As we were able to reproduce the noise consistantly I was able to hear the clunk coming from the rear (gee it sounded alot like the front). We took everything out of the boot (spare wheel, tyre removing tools and housing etc) and the nosie was still the same.
It is booked in for service next week. They are going to work on the rear now they know what to look for... If they find exactly whats causing it and or replace parts which gets rid of the noise I will post an update..
So for some of you our there with this continuing saga, it could well be the rear giving you the greef. I too swore black and blue it was front end. Might be something to start looking at...
Hope this further info helps you guys out there
Cheers
Phil
with the clunk coming from the rear we had one nad it turned out to be a brocken fuel rail bracket causing it to clunk when turning.a friends ss had a brocken rivet in the rear as well.
phil
HEXEM
25-11-2008, 07:15 AM
with the clunk coming from the rear we had one nad it turned out to be a brocken fuel rail bracket causing it to clunk when turning.a friends ss had a brocken rivet in the rear as well.
phil
Thanks for the info Phil,
Are you able to advise specifically where in the rear the broken fuel rail was? and also the location of the broken rivet?
Cheers
Phil
[MET]
25-11-2008, 03:15 PM
All I wanna say is FKN POS ! VE SS CLUTCH!@ ! ! ! !
I've complained at all 3 of the services and NOTHING has been done all they did was tighten bolts on the master cyl now it shudders...... For Fuks Sake!
bonners
25-11-2008, 03:19 PM
I bought a VE 'cause I love the shape. But I am consistantly hearing how good the VZ and VY's are/were. Considering the problems I have had which have mainly been dealer related but also Holden related I'm very disappointed in my purchase.
GODSMACK
25-11-2008, 03:33 PM
I bought a VE 'cause I love the shape. But I am consistantly hearing how good the VZ and VY's are/were. Considering the problems I have had which have mainly been dealer related but also Holden related I'm very disappointed in my purchase.
So sell it, and buy something else... problem solved.
bonners
25-11-2008, 03:59 PM
Godmsack, easier said than done. I do love the car and am in the prcoess of having things done to it. I have started to regain the initial love of my car but what I am getting at is for Holden's perfect baby, there seems to be way too many common and consistant problems.
If I walked into a dealer and asked to trade on one of these cheap HSV's we've seen, I reckon I'd get nothing for my car
If the fuel rail is the cause they removed my spare tyre and then removed the whole plastic spare tyre storage area and the fuel rails run along there somewhere.that is where they found my brocken clips that hold the fuel rails there.the rivet i will find out from my friend where the rivet was.i'am pretty sure it was along the rear where the back seat is.
phil
Josephmark
30-11-2008, 07:33 PM
i had a vy ss series two and loved that car , sometimes i wish i never traded it in for this ve ss which i thought was better car in some way . man i reackon i should trade in my ve ss and go down a model and just get a VZ SS .
Believe it or not, this is pretty much what I have done.
I had a VE SSV for about 4 months after owning a BA GTP.
The GTP gave me pretty much nothing but trouble, so thought I would try a new Holden.
The SS was simply not as much of a joy to drive. The GT may have given me grief, but when it was running, it was a pure thrill to drive.
So after four months I traded my SSV in for a VZ Senator, and could not be happier.
I feel the handling, ride, comfort, build quility and overall performance is much better.
Though to be fair, I am comparing a standard Holden to a HSV, even though the HSV is older.
Lucky for me, the Senator gives me the same thrill of driving that the GTP did, but with a much more reliable drive.
I can understand the appeal with the VE's, but for me, they just feel slightly too "cheap".
This may also just be my experiance with my car.
Anyway, I hope everyone gets their issues sorted out, and can get back to enjoying their cars! :)
Godmsack, easier said than done. I do love the car and am in the prcoess of having things done to it. I have started to regain the initial love of my car but what I am getting at is for Holden's perfect baby, there seems to be way too many common and consistant problems.
If I walked into a dealer and asked to trade on one of these cheap HSV's we've seen, I reckon I'd get nothing for my car
Possibly not. It all depends on the dealer.
I walked in with my VE SSV and came out with a fully optioned VZ Senator, and around $5000 cash.
Though, the SSV only had 20,000K on it, whilst the Senator had 80,000k.
They would possibly be willing to offer slightly more for your car if you were buying a new HSV, as the price of the new ones would be far higher than I paid for the Senator.
Its simply the right time to buy now.
bonners
30-11-2008, 07:49 PM
well mine is going back for three days tomorrow to get the problems fixed. New dash, new glass in the sunroof, new door trim, seals re-fitted. Maybe I should go and see my salesman and see what he says. Joseph Just saw where you live. That's where I grew up as a kid..
Wonky
30-11-2008, 10:52 PM
Good luck with hopefully getting your problems resolved once and for all bonners!
bonners
01-12-2008, 09:02 AM
Thanks Gary. However, it appears that this may have to go further. After all the complainging I have done to the dealer, I dropped it in this morning and there seemed to be no mention of most of the problems.
HEXEM
01-12-2008, 08:06 PM
Thanks Gary. However, it appears that this may have to go further. After all the complainging I have done to the dealer, I dropped it in this morning and there seemed to be no mention of most of the problems.
Bonners,
I know your location says Brisbane, but do you take your car to the Brissy holden dealership? (I think there is only one there). My mate is a Toyota TRD tech/mechanic specialising in diagnostics etc etc. He is (in my opinion a very good mech), when I was on the Gold Coast in the October school holidays I was going to get an oil change done. He said to me that 'those' in the 'know' take there holdens to the brissy dealership and to avoid the ones further south. He has mates who work for holden and have also mentioned this.
I cann't prove what he has said is true but you may already be going there. I could ask if one of his mates works there and see if it will help you out!..
Cheers
Phil
HEXEM
02-12-2008, 10:22 PM
Well here is an update on the clunk issue.
As usual when I dropped the vehicle off this morning they road tested the car and it did not make the noise..
They did my 45k service and had one more look. The tech grabbed hold of the rear swaybar and pushed and pulled on it. The clunk noise returned, what was causing it was the bottom end of the rear swaybar link pin where it bolts to the rear control arm. The pin was moving out of place causing the clunk which was being echoed by the design of the control arm.
They tightened up the link pins and so far all is good...
Cheers
Phil
Darkrayne
03-12-2008, 12:35 AM
Good to hear they've soughted it out!. I have a oct build '07 SSV M6 and picked it up new in early Feb 08 this year.. No probs at all touch wood.. only thing ive had replaced were my brake pads as they used to squeal some on reversing.. other than that alls good :) i guess with everything.. theres always some that aren't up to par :\
HEXEM
15-12-2008, 09:27 PM
Well after a couple of weeks now and around 1000klm, the clunking noise has so far not returned. Seems to be all good.. The loose rear swaybar link pins created quite a fuss as the clunk seemed to be coming from the front.. :)
On another little issue, it is going back to the dealer for an overnight stay due to 2 things that only occur when the car is stone cold (overnight sitting)
1. When I first start the car and it revs to about 1500rpm, as the revs come down the engine seems to have a hesitation (like a stumble) for about 10 sec then smooths out during warm up. It only does it while the car is parked and will not repeat itself if you turn the car off and back on again. I have had the T/B cleaned, plugs removed and checked (all ok) and the computer checked for trouble codes. I think it might be related to either battery condition or alternator charge rate. The voltage sits at 11volts during the cold start and takes a little time before coming up to 14volts (generally 1 volt at a time).
I have tried different fuel brand (currently been using BP Ultimate). I have had some occassions where the car has been sitting all day and did not reproduce the stumble/hesitation.
This problem pretty much has been doing it since I got the car.
2. Again this issue only occurs once. When cold I reverse out my driveway and as I go to drive off as the car gets to about 15 - 20kph there is a clunk sort out sound like something lets go or disengauges. You can stop the car and go again, it wont happen the second time around. I have worked out that once the car gets to that speed the noise happends, but will only happen once untill the car is left to sit all day.
The problem only occurs in the forward direction. This noise hasn't always been there.
Anyway if anyone has some ideas as to what it might be I would like to hear from you.
Cheers
Phil
BLKSSV000
17-12-2008, 09:50 AM
Yep I've got the clunk as well ocober 06 SSV 20,000 km.
This occurs when turning right and accelerating out of the turn ( not hard but firm ) sounded like the mud flap dragging on the road
Local Holden dealer investigated and said that the Cat Back Sysytem install by me was rubbing in the chassis rail.
took it to Exhaust installer and they massaged the exhaust away from the chassis rail and the heat shield near the fuel tank.
Drove home all good took a right hand corner ..........still got a clunk but the sound has change.:spew: now its a clunk.
Back to the dealer with all your thoughts and information regarding this clunk
keep you posted with any results
worknssv
17-12-2008, 11:43 AM
Good afternoon Everyone,
I am New here, and was shocked to read about all the problems. i just took delivery of a brand New Nitrate SSv M6 Ute, and love driving it. i had an 02 Cv8 before this, and the ute is so much nicer to drive. i just hope i dont have to many problems with my new VE.
I know this is a little different but i brought my partner a brand new astra and we have had nothing but problems with the car. after 5 attempts from holden, i wrote a letter of complaint to Holden customer assistance.
and with in 24 hours had someone call me to organise to get it fixed.
The booked me in... gave me a lone car. and kept my car untill it was fixed (6days)
its the old saying the squeaky wheel gets the oil... dont give up you all paid good money for you car so make them fix it. Good luck
BOOGER
08-01-2009, 12:51 PM
Some very interesting info on the suspension issues here. I was hoping some of you could help me, I've just bought a second hand 07 SSV with 22,000km on the clock. When I turn the wheel left or right it makes a clunking sound. It does this when stationary, when driving slow (like in a carpark) and probably at road speed but I can't tell. Bumps don't seem to have any affect just turning.
The car was owned by the service manager of the dealership I bought it from so I would have expected any little problems like this to have been sorted out, I guess not.
Regards
Brandon
HEXEM
09-01-2009, 06:52 AM
Some very interesting info on the suspension issues here. I was hoping some of you could help me, I've just bought a second hand 07 SSV with 22,000km on the clock. When I turn the wheel left or right it makes a clunking sound. It does this when stationary, when driving slow (like in a carpark) and probably at road speed but I can't tell. Bumps don't seem to have any affect just turning.
The car was owned by the service manager of the dealership I bought it from so I would have expected any little problems like this to have been sorted out, I guess not.
Regards
Brandon
Brandon,
It might be the intermediate shaft (steering) which is in the engine bay close to the firewall. This is a well known issue but not sure what year the part was revised, anyway there is a Holden Tech Line notice for the fix.
How you can test for it is park the car with the engine off, turn on the steering wheel a fair bit left and right, if you get a clunk sound it will be the shaft. The clunk almost sounds like its coming from the steering colum inside the car.. But if you open the bonnet and have someone listen on the drivers side of the engine bay they will hear it.
Holden found this issue while working out my suspension issue.
Hope this helps..
Cheers
Phil
BOOGER
09-01-2009, 03:37 PM
Thanks for the advice Phil,
I've just checked and I don't think it's what you've explained though. It's on the passanger side and I think it's the strut. Should the strut tops move? I had the good women turn the wheel for me while I listened (had to have the engine running though because she couldn't turn the wheel without power assistance) and I could see both strut tops moving as she went left to right, but the passanger side one was making a clunk, clunk, clunk noise mainly when changing direction and when I put my hand on top of the strut I could feel it vibrate with each clunk.
Regards
Brandon
HEXEM
09-01-2009, 03:55 PM
Ok,
Is it a definate 'clunk' or more of a twang sound?. as you turn the wheels the strut will move in the same direction, you should see the large disc with the black rubber edge turn. If you can spin that large disc by hand then there is a problem, it should feel tight with not much movement (by hand).
If the sound is more of a twang you might find that the spring is catching on the bottom plate of the strut. The other part which can clunk is the top strut bearing. If this part is the problem I would have that replaced as well as the strut top mount..
If the spring is the cause there is a tech fix with holden on that. The fix is they fit an insulator to the bottom of the spring where it sits in the bottom strut plate (its basically a rubber disc which attaches to the spring)
THere are also some other parts for the front end to stop complaints of clunking in front end. They are , Revised Engine Mounts, Revised Swaybar 'D' bushes.
See how you go with that.
Cheers
Phil
BOOGER
09-01-2009, 04:58 PM
That's great thanks for your help Phil,
Yeah the disks with the rubber surrounds are what are moving when the steering is turned. they don't move at all by hand so that's good. You might be able to say it's more like a twang? I guess it's a subjective thing. One mans clunk is another mans twang!! I've got the car booked in for Wednesday next week to have it looked at, hopefully it will be sorted quickly.
Regards
Brandon
Wonky
10-01-2009, 12:12 AM
It has been reported a couple of times that such a noise can come from the nut under the big washer at the top of the strut not being properly tightened. If necessary I can find the original thread with picture to illustrate where the problem is. Very simple fix!!
HEXEM
10-01-2009, 07:15 AM
It has been reported a couple of times that such a noise can come from the nut under the big washer at the top of the strut not being properly tightened. If necessary I can find the original thread with picture to illustrate where the problem is. Very simple fix!!
Yeah good pickup Gary,
Here is the quote from ATOMIC MALOO
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=98223&highlight=strut+nut&page=3
Page 3 of the thread
wow
a very disappointing read
i was actually on the hunt for a ve ss, but im now seriously reconsidering after reading this thread.
a mate had the exact same problems mentioned but thought that it was just a one off...
HEXEM
10-01-2009, 09:07 AM
wow
a very disappointing read
i was actually on the hunt for a ve ss, but im now seriously reconsidering after reading this thread.
a mate had the exact same problems mentioned but thought that it was just a one off...
Hi Rico,
I know it all sounds pretty dim and I'm not suggesting you should change you mind and go buy one regardless. I think having constructive information like these threads helps you to decide where you want to spend your money, but ultimately gives you feedback on what maybe the issue should you buy a VE and have a similar problem.
Many of the problems faced by owners of 2006, 2007 and early 2008 models have been rectified in the late 2008, 2009 models (so I am told by Holden). I am not saying you wont get those issues in a brand new 2009 one, but things like the front struts have been revised as all those parts listed in this thread are now fitted from factory on new models.
The Government agency I work for has many SV6's, SS's, the odd Calais V8 and base model Omega. None of these have had the same issues, unless it related to the way it was being driven . I have had some issues with mine but all seem to be fine now and I realy like the car and the drive I get from it.
Phil :)
BOOGER
10-01-2009, 10:06 AM
It has been reported a couple of times that such a noise can come from the nut under the big washer at the top of the strut not being properly tightened. If necessary I can find the original thread with picture to illustrate where the problem is. Very simple fix!!
Definitely be mentioning all these possibilities to them next week when I have the car looked at, though the disk on the strut top doesn’t turn by hand in my case so it probably isn’t the nut. I’d probably put my money on the spring catching somewhere as VE-SSV suggested. Either way I'm hoping for a quick fix. And thanks Phil for finding that thread for me.
Wonky
10-01-2009, 07:47 PM
Hi Rico,
I know it all sounds pretty dim and I'm not suggesting you should change you mind and go buy one regardless. I think having constructive information like these threads helps you to decide where you want to spend your money, but ultimately gives you feedback on what maybe the issue should you buy a VE and have a similar problem.
Many of the problems faced by owners of 2006, 2007 and early 2008 models have been rectified in the late 2008, 2009 models (so I am told by Holden). I am not saying you wont get those issues in a brand new 2009 one, but things like the front struts have been revised as all those parts listed in this thread are now fitted from factory on new models.
The Government agency I work for has many SV6's, SS's, the odd Calais V8 and base model Omega. None of these have had the same issues, unless it related to the way it was being driven . I have had some issues with mine but all seem to be fine now and I realy like the car and the drive I get from it.
Phil :)
Yep, and many of us on here have not had any issues at all (well, in my case one very minor one that was easily resolved). It's certainly not all doom and gloom!! Remember that if people have problems they will almost certainly add to this thread but most of the people who have no problems won't bother.
BOOGER
14-01-2009, 07:49 PM
Some very interesting info on the suspension issues here. I was hoping some of you could help me, I've just bought a second hand 07 SSV with 22,000km on the clock. When I turn the wheel left or right it makes a clunking sound. It does this when stationary, when driving slow (like in a carpark) and probably at road speed but I can't tell. Bumps don't seem to have any affect just turning.
The car was owned by the service manager of the dealership I bought it from so I would have expected any little problems like this to have been sorted out, I guess not.
Regards
Brandon
**UPDATE**
Car went into Holden today to have this issue looked at. Turned out the spring was not seated properly. VE-SSV, I think you were just about spot on with your diagnosis.
hazrd8
14-01-2009, 07:53 PM
i have been waiting for this thread to pop up i have seen a few ve's with 100,000km and they were falling to bits they seem to have a cheap feel about them i hope im wrong but from my experiance i will be seeing a lot more of these in our workshop.
tyrhantc
14-01-2009, 10:41 PM
Im just wondering if these clunking problems started out as a minor slip in the steering wheel feel. Every now and then I get the feeling that the steering wheel slips or maybe even feels like it catches for a split second when turning.
Can I also add that while some people come on here and say that there is so much doom and gloom they may not buy a new car now...I still marvel at being able to come on here and search for a problem and find that someone has already had the problem and most times found the answer for me.
Big cheers to all of you...:goodjob:
If everyone just walked into their dealer service department with no clue that the issue was happening to other people (like the old days...ha) and that there weren't already solutions available to the problem, alot more of us would be getting shafted by our friendly local dealer...
Wonky
15-01-2009, 01:16 AM
i have been waiting for this thread to pop up i have seen a few ve's with 100,000km and they were falling to bits they seem to have a cheap feel about them i hope im wrong but from my experiance i will be seeing a lot more of these in our workshop.
Apart from VHA/VHB cars (generally well looked after) and taxis I wouldn't have thought anybody would have racked up 100,000km already! :eek: Even if they had I would have expected them to be hammered early editions of base models which wouldn't necessarily be representative of the sort of cars we have.
bonners
15-01-2009, 06:54 AM
Im just wondering if these clunking problems started out as a minor slip in the steering wheel feel. Every now and then I get the feeling that the steering wheel slips or maybe even feels like it catches for a split second when turning.
Can I also add that while some people come on here and say that there is so much doom and gloom they may not buy a new car now...I still marvel at being able to come on here and search for a problem and find that someone has already had the problem and most times found the answer for me.
Big cheers to all of you...:goodjob:
If everyone just walked into their dealer service department with no clue that the issue was happening to other people (like the old days...ha) and that there weren't already solutions available to the problem, alot more of us would be getting shafted by our friendly local dealer...
Agreed. I have found so many answers on here.
On topic of clunking noises. Last weekend I noticed for the first time some clunking type noise coming from the rear end. I honestly believed it was from the rear right. The car was recently lowered on springs only (I only went down 25mm). Anyway, I took it back for a look and sure enough up on the hoist, the rear swaybar link on the right side was loose. Tightened up and now she drives perfect with no noise. Unfortunately there is still a loud clunk when I have it on hard turn left turning into my driveway here at work. Suggestions?
HEXEM
15-01-2009, 01:26 PM
Agreed. I have found so many answers on here.
On topic of clunking noises. Last weekend I noticed for the first time some clunking type noise coming from the rear end. I honestly believed it was from the rear right. The car was recently lowered on springs only (I only went down 25mm). Anyway, I took it back for a look and sure enough up on the hoist, the rear swaybar link on the right side was loose. Tightened up and now she drives perfect with no noise. Unfortunately there is still a loud clunk when I have it on hard turn left turning into my driveway here at work. Suggestions?
Heya bonners, See if these help you..
That one your getting when turning into the driveway at work could be 2 things I know of. There are prolly others, did it only start doing it after the new springs?... Could be a badly seated spring?..
1. Loose lower control arm front (left and right) ball joint. The Hex nut (just near the wheel hub on the inside) at the top loosens in roughly 5,000klm (depending of road conditions and use). It can be enough to cause a clunk. I had those loose on my car (took about 3 to 4 turns to tighten).
2. As reported in other threads. There is a nut just under the main strut tower plate in the engine bay (big disc with rubber edge). Undo the top nut, pull off the plate and there is a nut lower down (this tightens the strut up to the top bearing and top strut mount).
One thing to remember (most of you probably already know) when tightening any suspension, body bolts / nuts you should first back them off (loosen) a little then tighten. This is what my service mates have told me as the best method to ensure everything IS tight.
Cheers
Phil :)
bonners
15-01-2009, 01:44 PM
Phil
Yeah, they did tighten the top one but I will get them to look at this front one. As I mentioned, your suggestion on the rear one was dead right.
Cheers
HEXEM
15-01-2009, 05:23 PM
Yeah I got your message with the update. Glad I could help out.
I will chase up some info for you on the other issue non direct car related and get back to you.
Phil
BEARWOOD
09-02-2009, 01:51 PM
1,500km's and starter motor shit itself. Had to get towed Saturday from shopping centre carpark. I know all cars have there problems but what kind of crap are they making these cars out of to be failing after 1,500km's. It's prob only been started 15 times.
Wonky
10-02-2009, 12:22 AM
1,500km's and starter motor shit itself. Had to get towed Saturday from shopping centre carpark. I know all cars have there problems but what kind of crap are they making these cars out of to be failing after 1,500km's. It's prob only been started 15 times.
Just one of those things and you are the unlucky one. First time I've heard of that.
BEARWOOD
10-02-2009, 09:31 AM
ye it's the first i've heard of too, but still it happened and it makes me worried about the reliability of the car. i'm going away in a few weeks and the last thing i need is a car breking down on holidays in QLD. I've owned a VU,VY,VZ and now a VE (all new) and have had to use the road side assistance with all of them and a couple of times with the VZ. You shouldn't buy a new car and be wandering when and what is going to go wrong with it.
RTracer1
10-02-2009, 07:37 PM
I've still got paint problems with my late 08 SSV ute , Holden have been stuffing me around for about 6 weeks. My selling dealer may have gone into bat for me hopefully.
bonners
10-02-2009, 07:44 PM
I've still got paint problems with my late 08 SSV ute , Holden have been stuffing me around for about 6 weeks. My selling dealer may have gone into bat for me hopefully.
Paint problems....Careful. I do/did and my dealer said he would get it fixed. Then he let the detailer at it and it has left dreadful swirls marks all over the bonnet and some deep 'cut' type marks in the rear bar. It kind of never ends with this car.
RTracer1
10-02-2009, 08:19 PM
Paint problems are a little deeper than jusy a cut and polish, I posted pics previously on the thread " paint problems still". Service manager of my purchasing dealer has inspected and agrees that there is definatley a problem/weeven found new contaminated spots while we were looking over it.
bonners
10-02-2009, 08:24 PM
mine looked like a bird had sat on the bonnet for a few hours with a slow leak in the one spot. They then tried to fix it with a cut. :flipoff: Once again they stuffed my car.
RTracer1
10-02-2009, 08:51 PM
Mine has dirt and some sort of lint or fibre under the clear and base coats and pimples that another dealer tried to polish out and took the top off it It's on every panel so we will see what happens. Was sent a survey from the vehicle manufacturers of australia no guessing what will be written on that.
BEARWOOD
11-02-2009, 09:38 AM
Recieved another call from Holden yeterday telling me that they will just zip tie the solanoid on the starter motor for now and hopefully it will keep working as whoever the supplier is for the VE starter motors has supplied the wrong parts for all of them and they are having trouble tracking it down. This could all be bullshit but i don't really care what they tell me as long as i get the new starter when they get them in. Quality at it's best....
sheeks84
11-02-2009, 10:22 AM
After 8 trips to the dealer my car still has problems. This all within the first month or so of having the car. The list of defects so far are;
- Damaged paint on from guard
- Faulty door trim
- Damaged window glass and tint
- Broken trim panels
- Incorrectly alligned door
- Gearbox problems
It took 6 trips back to the dealer for them to fix most of the problems, and still the gearbox issue is unresolved. They put a new gearbox in and that one was shagged aswell.
Very dissappointing, seeing as how this is my first new car. Has put me off owning another new Holden thats for sure.
hyperss82
11-02-2009, 10:36 AM
i have had numerous issues replaced 6 blue tooth modules. Front struts replaced clutch pedal very soft they cant find a problem they bled the fluid still the same.lost all control of all steering wheel buttons and it says no abs they fixed that but not going to get another brand new holden again
Lennox
11-03-2009, 06:34 PM
Had mine to the dealer today for the front RHS suspension noise. Dealer advised that there is a revised spring wrap as per TL1650-0901. This has been a problem in my SS since new in November 2006.
psynet141
01-05-2009, 01:39 PM
I've got a march 08 SS Ute and i've got the clunk happening seams to be comming from the frnt l/h strut i also get a creaking sound comming from the same strut when i'm braking at low speeds.
My problems started from delivery of the car, the dealership organized the lowering of the ute when i drove it home that nite, in my street a tree root has growen under the road making an "speed hump" as i went over it there was a loud thump from the rear end i initialy thogh they just left the tow bar loose in the tray, next day comming home from work same thing but louder i decided to invistigate as i noticed the tow bar was installed in the car already so i jacked up the rear end and looked under the ute to notice 2 of the 4 12mm bolts holding my rear l/h strut to the chasis we're gone and the remaining 2 i turned by hand all of 3mm and they fell out in my hand, this was friday arvo at 5pm, rang dearlership on monday morning went of my rocker at them they sent out a flat bed tow truck "turns out North city holden in perth contract out all suspension work to pedders osbourne park" sorted it all out new bolts they re tourqed everything, then about a mth later the clunk started in the frnt l/h suspension took it in for service got pissy again said wtf's going on its only done 3k, they sent it back to pedders apparently spring wrapped the frnt and rear springs and the problem seamed to go away for a while now at 25k its come back i was going to wait for the next service and report it but on driving to work one morning there was a loud screeching sound whilst driving some how my aircon belt had snapped so i took it back to get that fix on warenty and said suspension problems back, service dept from north city never rang me to say car was ready i went down there after work at 5 and was told "not sure why the belt snapped we replaced it though, and you have after market suspension we can't do anything" i was like wtf i never installed it i dont even have a recipt your damn car yard did it there responce "oh well you'll have to contact your new car sales man and say your not happy with the suspension" who just happens to be on holidays now so now i think i'm just going to take it to wa suspensions whom did work on my old VY SS and see if they will just sort the damn problem, mate of mine is a mechanic for toyota he recons its strut top bearings flogged out hope fully ill be given answers soon.
GODSMACK
01-05-2009, 01:44 PM
I've got a march 08 SS Ute and i've got the clunk happening seams to be comming from the frnt l/h strut i also get a creaking sound comming from the same strut when i'm braking at low speeds.
My problems started from delivery of the car, the dealership organized the lowering of the ute when i drove it home that nite, in my street a tree root has growen under the road making an "speed hump" as i went over it there was a loud thump from the rear end i initialy thogh they just left the tow bar loose in the tray, next day comming home from work same thing but louder i decided to invistigate as i noticed the tow bar was installed in the car already so i jacked up the rear end and looked under the ute to notice 2 of the 4 12mm bolts holding my rear l/h strut to the chasis we're gone and the remaining 2 i turned by hand all of 3mm and they fell out in my hand, this was friday arvo at 5pm, rang dearlership on monday morning went of my rocker at them they sent out a flat bed tow truck "turns out North city holden in perth contract out all suspension work to pedders osbourne park" sorted it all out new bolts they re tourqed everything, then about a mth later the clunk started in the frnt l/h suspension took it in for service got pissy again said wtf's going on its only done 3k, they sent it back to pedders apparently spring wrapped the frnt and rear springs and the problem seamed to go away for a while now at 25k its come back i was going to wait for the next service and report it but on driving to work one morning there was a loud screeching sound whilst driving some how my aircon belt had snapped so i took it back to get that fix on warenty and said suspension problems back, service dept from north city never rang me to say car was ready i went down there after work at 5 and was told "not sure why the belt snapped we replaced it though, and you have after market suspension we can't do anything" i was like wtf i never installed it i dont even have a recipt your damn car yard did it there responce "oh well you'll have to contact your new car sales man and say your not happy with the suspension" who just happens to be on holidays now so now i think i'm just going to take it to wa suspensions whom did work on my old VY SS and see if they will just sort the damn problem, mate of mine is a mechanic for toyota he recons its strut top bearings flogged out hope fully ill be given answers soon.
Thats one long friggen sentence...
BOOGER
01-05-2009, 05:48 PM
Annoying and quite understandably so but not really an “SSV problem” more like a modification has gone south. For sure keep chasing it up with the dealer, after all they were the ones that arranged the mod.
spinr33
01-05-2009, 09:34 PM
After reading the long story everyones had with their new ve's you can safely assume that after 3-4 years after making the orignal cars all the problems will be well and truley ironed out, if i had major issuses with buying a new ve etc id think of mayeb investing some time and finding a non holden based dealership thats dealt heavily in aftermarket ve's because you could assume that they would have ironed out any issuses with this vechicle as im sure their many ve's out their now that are no longer covered by holden warranty, and taken to dare i say it a decent mechanic and the problems ironed out properly.
:goodjob: thats just what i think though its pretty bad having to pay someone for holdens problem but its the old story you get what you pay for.
Wonky
02-05-2009, 02:35 AM
Thats one long friggen sentence...
Too hard to read for me to be bothered with! :eek:
BLACKVE
02-05-2009, 06:00 AM
Heck i must be lucky after reading this, having 2 SS's a sep 06 sedan 27000km's and 08 ute 3500km's no real probs. Noisy strut on sedan left front but thats it.
Seem's holdens dealers need a kick in the bum:flipoff:
psynet141
04-05-2009, 03:36 PM
Yeah when i pasted it the text in it didnt formatt properly, though i have got an answer now it turns out Pedders havent tighten the clavical bolts, the two 16mm bolts that hold the steering knuckle on to the shock absorber.
lorri08
10-05-2009, 10:41 AM
Hi all i have a few problems with my ve ssv. I have a queeling noise coming from under bonnet on start up (mainly when cold). Had it to the deal they changed the power steering pump pulley and replace the belt. Apparently this is a known fault from holden. Only to get it back home and still queeling. Anyone else have this problem? Also reading another topic post, i also have had my clutch pedal stick on and thus frying my clutch. I have been told the have a problem with the slave cylinder. Cars going back in to the deal in a few weeks so ill keep anyone interested posted. cheers
SV346
10-05-2009, 10:52 AM
The suspension issues i keep hearing about, loose parts and bits ready to fall off has completely made sure im not going to lower mine at any time untill im sure theres a fix or it wont happen. Ive had enough trouble just trying to find someone decent to tune my car, getting it to even idle properly was hard enough for one place.
HEXEM
10-05-2009, 11:18 AM
Hi all i have a few problems with my ve ssv. I have a queeling noise coming from under bonnet on start up (mainly when cold). Had it to the deal they changed the power steering pump pulley and replace the belt. Apparently this is a known fault from holden. Only to get it back home and still queeling. Anyone else have this problem? Also reading another topic post, i also have had my clutch pedal stick on and thus frying my clutch. I have been told the have a problem with the slave cylinder. Cars going back in to the deal in a few weeks so ill keep anyone interested posted. cheers
Lorri,
The squeeling noise on cold start (for a few seconds) is common on alot of the VE's. I have been told it is the alternator charging the battery after the car has been sitting for awhile.
If the squeeling noise runs continualy (hot or cold) there is a known fault in the power steering pump pully (common on SV6 from what I have seen). What causes the continued squeel after the pully is replaced, is the misalignment of the new pully. Holden here in Canberra use a laser alignment tool to get it right. From what I have been told, the pully only needs to be out a very small amount and the belt will squeel on the pully.
The alignment has to be spot on (close enough is not good enough in this case). I have seen this issue in the flesh at holden service and when the alignment was done the noise went away. It might take them a few goes to get it right.
Hope this helps you for this issue, sorry I cant offer advise re the clutch.
Cheers,
Phil
hardaz
11-05-2009, 02:02 PM
i hate holden servicing, my mate did his apprenticeship there and he told me not to take it to them haha quality.
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