Rims and Tyres for my VE SSV Ute....

[Gorty]

I know that 8" with 245's on for the front is as wide as I can go but what is the widest size rim and tyre can I get on the back without any mods? 8", 8.5"...with 255's/265's??

I did quite a search on here but couldn't find the result/info.

I'm from the old school,...I want some 265's on the ass end! :1peek:

[EXCESSV]

u can go 275 easy with rolling of the guards or a rim with the correct offset...

depending on the offset of the rim and if u have normal or big brakes u can even squeeze 295 but definately need to roll the guards

[Gorty]

u can go 275 easy with rolling of the guards or a rim with the correct offset...

depending on the offset of the rim and if u have normal or big brakes u can even squeeze 295 but definately need to roll the guards

So I could get a 265 on an 8" rim no mods?

[EXCESSV]

So I could get a 265 on an 8" rim no mods?how low is the car? and i think 265 is stretching it on a 8" wide rim :eek:

[Gorty]

how low is the car? and i think 265 is stretching it on a 8" wide rim :eek:

Everything is factory height still, I want to get the width with my rear wheels and tyres and then lower to suit.
An 8.5" will be required at least to get 265?
This is her at the moment!!!

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i222/Gortz/CopyofSSVUte012.jpg

[EXCESSV]

how low is the car? and i think 265 is stretching it on a 8" wide rim :eek:ooops...i didnt mean stretching it...i meant it will be baggy on the rim

probably best to ask a local tyre shop or tech9homie who is a forum sponsor will tell you for sure

[Gorty]

ooops...i didnt mean stretching it...i meant it will be baggy on the rim

probably best to ask a local tyre shop or tech9homie who is a forum sponsor will tell you for sure

Ok...Cheers EXCESSV! :)

[ATTNSEEKR]

i have 265s on a 8" rim, looks good and fit up alright.

[BlownLS7]

i have 275 on 8.5 rim

[Gorty]

i have 265s on a 8" rim, looks good and fit up alright.


i have 275 on 8.5 rim

Now we're talking! :) :) :)

[EXCESSV]

u will run into problems when u lower it depending on how low u go.

245 OEM tyres on the rims when u start tucking the rears is close to the guard as mine is...265 with guard rolling and low on standard rims ensures no issues...

[Vulture]

My local tyre bloke won't recommend 265s on an 8 inch rim.

[ATTNSEEKR]

My local tyre bloke won't recommend 265s on an 8 inch rim.

wont recommend, but wave the cash and he will do :lol:

Gorty, ill pm you the number for the best guard roller in perth :thumbsup:

[sjhugh]

On my SSV Ute I have 20x8.5 on the front with 255 tyres and 20x10 on the rear with 285 tyres. No rolling of the guards required, no scraping, in fact no problems whatsoever.

[Gorty]

wont recommend, but wave the cash and he will do :lol:

Gorty, ill pm you the number for the best guard roller in perth :thumbsup:

Cheers PSI. pm replied to.


On my SSV Ute I have 20x8.5 on the front with 255 tyres and 20x10 on the rear with 285 tyres. No rolling of the guards required, no scraping, in fact no problems whatsoever.

Kool......any pics? This is the soughta look and dimensions in width I'm after!

[Wonky]

On my SSV Ute I have 20x8.5 on the front with 255 tyres and 20x10 on the rear with 285 tyres. No rolling of the guards required, no scraping, in fact no problems whatsoever.

How low though? I've booked mine in to have the guards rolled next week by a panel beater as I don't trust a tyre place to do it (besides, the tyre place I use doesn't do it).

I'm going 275s on 20x10 rims at the rear and have King super super lows so the top of the tyre is already marginally above the bottom of the wheel arch. I had assumed that I needed the guards rolled. Are the utes any different re how the rear arches are shaped?

[EXCESSV]

Gorty, ill pm you the number for the best guard roller in perth :thumbsup:that would be des @ AutoFX would it adam?

[ATTNSEEKR]

that would be des @ AutoFX would it adam?

:yup: :bow: DES

[sjhugh]

Sorry the photos are not the best but photography is not my thing.

These were taken a few months ago on the day I picked the car up from the dealer. It is lowered but not to much to allow me to put some load in the rear if need be. It has settled a little more since these were taken.

I don't know if this is correct but the dealer told me there is a little bit of a difference in the offsets from the sedan to the ute. One day when I get a bit of free time I will try to fit the rims to my Clubby and see how they compare.

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[Gorty]

On my SSV Ute I have 20x8.5 on the front with 255 tyres and 20x10 on the rear with 285 tyres. No rolling of the guards required, no scraping, in fact no problems whatsoever.


Sorry the photos are not the best but photography is not my thing.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn249/sjhugh/100_2613.jpg

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Nice pics! :) I want my ute to sit just like yours is in the above pic so if needed I can chuck a load in the back. Do you have any pics with the wider wheels and tyres?...They aren't the 255's and the 285's in those pics are they??
Nice looking ute sj! :)

[sjhugh]

Thanks for the compliment mate, I like yours as well and the Voodoo is a great colour. I picked this up in February and couldn’t wait for the Voodoo to come out so I went for the red.

It does have the 255 and 285's on. In fact I could have gone a little bit wider. I’ve added a few more pics that may help show them but when I took the photos I wasn’t really looking at highlighting the width of the tyres. The ride height has settled a little but it’s roughly as shown and suits what I was after. It allows a load in the back plus the flanges on the highflow cats only have 80mm clearance and any lower in the front would have caused problems underneath. There is plenty of room for the bigger rims if you get the offsets right and if deep dish isn’t what you are after. I had bigger brakes in mind when I choose these. There is a lot of room on the inside of the stock rims to go wider without having illegal offsets and this was also taken into account. My VE R8 is a different setup altogether, you can’t get a finger between the rim and strut in the front and apart from trying to clear the brake callipers are nothing but trouble when it comes to aftermarket rims choice.





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[Gorty]

Thanks for the compliment mate, I like yours as well and the Voodoo is a great colour. I picked this up in February and couldn’t wait for the Voodoo to come out so I went for the red.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn249/sjhugh/Z100_2688a.jpg


I love the stance in this pic sjhugh! Excellent looking ute! I love it!! I see you chopped the aerial down. :)

[Wonky]

Excellent looking ute! I love it!! I see you chopped the aerial down. :)

Called a beesting aerial. Cost about $20 - $30 imported from UK (UK eBay). That's the only place I've seen anyone get them as 6 months or more ago I couldn't find any locally. Do a search on beesting and eBay on here and you'll find some links or find UK eBay sellers Rockshore and markph1969. I've bought from both as I bought some for others and they're both fine to deal with.

[sjhugh]

I sourced the stubby antenna from the U.S.
$7.99USD for memory from carccessory.com

[Wonky]

OK, still a pain that we have to bring them in from overseas. Means the aerial can end up costing less than the postage. Markph1969's beestings were cheaper - with the current good exchange rate they probably work out at $6 each or even less now. Note to Gorty - get them around the 9cm length - looks good!

[sjhugh]

You're right Wonky, you'd think they'd be a local buy by now.

I brought in 6 and it cost me $5.40USD postage, they are just under 6.5cm long.

[Wonky]

Sounds like the US is the way to go then as postage sounds much less! 6.5cm is super short! :) Do you notice any difference in reception? I haven't with mine.

[sjhugh]

No problem with AM/FM reception here in Sydney. I actually drove around for a couple of months in the R8 without anything because I didn't like the look of the stock antenna and never had any problem picking up statons. I don't know if it has an effect on GPS as I wouldn't spend the money on the expensive cheap Holden product.

[Wonky]

From memory they actually have 2 aerials - the external one and also one in the rear window and they swap to whichever provides the better signal at any given moment. Would explain why it worked with no external aerial.

[sjhugh]

I had heard they had an antenna in the rear screen but I didn't know why.

I also haven't driven out of town so I don't know if removing the antenna or using the small stubby one would have a negative effect on reception during country driving.

[Wonky]

On a cruise last year we went to Upper Yarra dam in the ranges probably about 120km as the crow flies from Melbourne and my stubby aerial worked well until about the last 10kms as we wound around up into the hills. Previous experience would lead me to believe that the standard aerial wouldn't have fared any better.

[Vulture]

Sjhugh, that ute looks sesnational! Love the wheels. What are those rims?

[BlownLS7]

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Originally Posted by sjhugh http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=1249183#post1249183)
On my SSV Ute I have 20x8.5 on the front with 255 tyres and 20x10 on the rear with 285 tyres. No rolling of the guards required, no scraping, in fact no problems whatsoever.

How low though? I've booked mine in to have the guards rolled next week by a panel beater as I don't trust a tyre place to do it (besides, the tyre place I use doesn't do it).

I'm going 275s on 20x10 rims at the rear and have King super super lows so the top of the tyre is already marginally above the bottom of the wheel arch. I had assumed that I needed the guards rolled. Are the utes any different re how the rear arches are shaped?

i can confirm that with the right offset this is fully acheivable.i have suffered for last 6 months with wheels that had the wrong offset,and can now say that the HSV offset is the best (with staggered wheels) this is on 20,s and i even feel with this offset 22's would be fine as well.dont be fooled by wheel shops that say they are fine just roll the gaurds.thats crap. i will have to spend 600 dollars to repair the rolled gaurds done by my OLD wheel shop. Correct offset is what makes them fit !!!!

just my 2c worth.

[Wonky]

i can confirm that with the right offset this is fully acheivable.i have suffered for last 6 months with wheels that had the wrong offset,and can now say that the HSV offset is the best (with staggered wheels) this is on 20,s and i even feel with this offset 22's would be fine as well.dont be fooled by wheel shops that say they are fine just roll the gaurds.thats crap. i will have to spend 600 dollars to repair the rolled gaurds done by my OLD wheel shop. Correct offset is what makes them fit !!!!

What is the correct offset? My new 20x10s are +50 offset whereas the original 8.5s are +42.

[Gorty]

What is the correct offset?

That was going to be my next question! Are the utes different to the sedans?

[BlownLS7]

What is the correct offset? My new 20x10s are +50 offset whereas the original 8.5s are +42.

hi
when i said Correct offset, i mean for me with HSV AP Brakes,
front is 48
rear is 57

however i would test fit them first before spending the cash.

cheers paul

[Wonky]

hi
when i said Correct offset, i mean for me with HSV AP Brakes,
front is 48
rear is 57

however i would test fit them first before spending the cash.

cheers paul

OK, the HSV brakes make a big difference to offsets required. The guy I bought my 20x10s from has assured me they'd fit and I trust him. As a former forum sponsor and good guy in all my previous dealings with him (3 previous times) I'm sure he'd take them back if they didn't. Can't trial fit them until they arrive down here from Sydney.

[EXCESSV]

hi

when i said Correct offset, i mean for me with HSV AP Brakes,
front is 48
rear is 57

however i would test fit them first before spending the cash.

cheers paulthats the offset of the actual HSV rims to fit the HSV branded AP Racing brakes.
caliper to spoke clearance still plays a part hence yes u do need to test fit before handing over cash.

from the other thread with ur brakes paul if u have the AP Racing kit with the conversion to fit behind the standard 18" SS and 19" SSV rims then offsets dont need to be so big...
but again the caliper to spoke clearance plays the biggest part but with this conversion kit ur rim choices are greater than the HSV ppl

[BlownLS7]

OK, the HSV brakes make a big difference to offsets required. The guy I bought my 20x10s from has assured me they'd fit and I trust him. As a former forum sponsor and good guy in all my previous dealings with him (3 previous times) I'm sure he'd take them back if they didn't. Can't trial fit them until they arrive down here from Sydney.

well looking at offset calc i think your ok,(without big brakes.)

cheers (got a pic?

[EXCESSV]

What is the correct offset? My new 20x10s are +50 offset whereas the original 8.5s are +42.wont be a problem with those offsets gary....i can safely say ur XHP Boost rims will fit even over VE HSV brakes as i have seen them on a VE HSV :hide:

[Wonky]

wont be a problem with those offsets gary....i can safely say ur XHP Boost rims will fit even over VE HSV brakes as i have seen them on a VE HSV :hide:

So if I ever get a HSV :eek: I can swap them! :idea: I didn't think they'd fit a HSV - BlackbettyHSV might be interested in that!

[Funky_Munky]

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn249/sjhugh/Z100_2674a.jpg

Is this photo taken in Silverwater by any chance?

[EXCESSV]

So if I ever get a HSV :eek: I can swap them! :idea: I didn't think they'd fit a HSV - BlackbettyHSV might be interested in that!he knows about them :up2sum:

and it was more to the point that if u ever went bigger brakes..APs or HSV brakes...they will fit...got a pic of a HSV VE with them on

[Wonky]

he knows about them :up2sum:

Ah, OK. Explains his comment in his other thread that he was interested to see the 20x10s on. He's seen it with the 20x8.5s all round.

[ShanghaiVZ]

Called a beesting aerial. Cost about $20 - $30 imported from UK (UK eBay). That's the only place I've seen anyone get them as 6 months or more ago I couldn't find any locally. Do a search on beesting and eBay on here and you'll find some links or find UK eBay sellers Rockshore and markph1969. I've bought from both as I bought some for others and they're both fine to deal with.

Try ya local Suzuki dealership, their swift aerials fit perfectly ;)

[Wonky]

Try ya local Suzuki dealership, their swift aerials fit perfectly ;)

My daughter had a Swift so I checked it out once before when someone said the same. They are shorter than the Holden ones but similar style. The short beesting aerials look much better (IMHO and that of many others) and from memory the Swift ones were slightly dearer than the beestings were, even including postage.

[sjhugh]

Sjhugh, that ute looks sesnational! Love the wheels. What are those rims?



They are a made to order 2 piece forged rim from Kelly Wheel Co. in the U.S.

The model number is KWC001 as per the photo. The offsets have been changed to suit my application/requirements plus I had the rivets removed and the polished centre painted.

They are also available in 3 piece and range in size from 18 to 26 inch dia and 7 to 16 inch wide.




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Is this photo taken in Silverwater by any chance?



Yes, the photo was taken at Silverwater.


That was going to be my next question! Are the utes different to the sedans?


My understanding there is a minor difference but I don't know what it is and I wouldn't swear to it. Talk to a reputable rim supplier and tell them your needs and let them come up with the offsets to suit. A word of advice, if you are looking at made to order rims and use your own measured offsets and they don't fit, you are stuck with them. That can be an expensive mistake. If they do it for you, they can be rejected as not being suitable.

[BlownLS7]

thats the offset of the actual HSV rims to fit the HSV branded AP Racing brakes.
caliper to spoke clearance still plays a part hence yes u do need to test fit before handing over cash.

from the other thread with ur brakes paul if u have the AP Racing kit with the conversion to fit behind the standard 18" SS and 19" SSV rims then offsets dont need to be so big...
but again the caliper to spoke clearance plays the biggest part but with this conversion kit ur rim choices are greater than the HSV ppl

yes mate i agree.but having said that just to see a car driving and see wheels that look unreal does not mean they fit properly,i was perfect example looked great and no probs till bumps came ans the rubbing started and it was to a point i could not put my 2 kids that weigh 30 KILO in back with it rubbing as well. as i said if you get chance to trial fit do so,maybe wonky you have a mate with VE in sydney that can do a trial for you? save trouble later,

cheers paul

[sjhugh]

thats the offset of the actual HSV rims to fit the HSV branded AP Racing brakes.
caliper to spoke clearance still plays a part hence yes u do need to test fit before handing over cash.

from the other thread with ur brakes paul if u have the AP Racing kit with the conversion to fit behind the standard 18" SS and 19" SSV rims then offsets dont need to be so big...
but again the caliper to spoke clearance plays the biggest part but with this conversion kit ur rim choices are greater than the HSV ppl




Hi Excessv, what is the conversion to the AP kit that allows a wider range of offsets? Is this to do with the caliper bracket or is the caliper itself not so fat?

[ShanghaiVZ]

My daughter had a Swift so I checked it out once before when someone said the same. They are shorter than the Holden ones but similar style. The short beesting aerials look much better (IMHO and that of many others) and from memory the Swift ones were slightly dearer than the beestings were, even including postage.

These days it's who you know NOT what you know ;)

[EXCESSV]

Hi Excessv, what is the conversion to the AP kit that allows a wider range of offsets? Is this to do with the caliper bracket or is the caliper itself not so fat?its a kit that sonny sells that is a different set of hats for the front and also the mounting brakets for the caliper are different.

not 100% sure just know that as i have the ones sitting here of the brakes when they were originally bought as a kit that only fit the HSV rims...
best speak to Sonny @ Marranos as he knows 100% as kit was through him

[sjhugh]

Thanks Excessv, I'll look into it.