Are Locksmiths Busy or Plain Lazy?

One of the flip keys on my VE Senator keeps falling apart, plus when I got it the key itself was already bent, so I bought myself a genuine new one.

Given my disabilities mean it's not easy to just turn up at a locksmith and ask them to cut the key and then hopefully program it to my car, over the last few days I've emailed half a dozen or so within reasonable driving distance to find out if they can program them too or only cut them.

I Googled and their websites suggested they could do the programming too so in my email I explained that my lack of speech made it difficult for me to ring and asking them a) if they can program and b) cost.

I know JezzaB can do it for me but it will be quicker and easier for me if the cost is similar to get it cut and programmed at the one place.

Have had only ONE reply in two days and that from someone who said they didn't have the required equipment and suggested 2 others who could. Only problem is they were some of those I'd already emailed and not had any response from. :mad:

Yes plain lazy Gaz no idea why these dicks don't reply to emails!
As you mentioned have the blank cut & see Jez or chev they should be able to program it easily.

Yeah, plain lazy,
same as most trades,
I don't know why they even give out there email address. :doh:

I have found the best thing is to phone them.

Have you ever noticed how often you can be standing in front of someone trying to pay & leave,
the phone rings & they drop everything to answer the phone? :lmao:

Wonky they're lazy.

I had a key cut a couple of years back for my Clubsport and after the locksmith cut the key he gave me a sheet of paper with the instructions to programme it to the car and sent me out to do it myself but still charged me for the programming.

I guess I paid for him passing the intellectual property on.

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Originally Posted by sjhugh

Wonky they're lazy.

I had a key cut a couple of years back for my Clubsport and after the locksmith cut the key he gave me a sheet of paper with the instructions to programme it to the car and sent me out to do it myself but still charged me for the programming.

I guess I paid for him passing the intellectual property on.

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Guess your not going to pass that info on?

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Originally Posted by sjhugh

Wonky they're lazy.

I had a key cut a couple of years back for my Clubsport and after the locksmith cut the key he gave me a sheet of paper with the instructions to programme it to the car and sent me out to do it myself but still charged me for the programming.

I guess I paid for him passing the intellectual property on.

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You don't happen to still have it do you? :D

I seem to recall from somewhere that it could be as simple as inserting the other key, turning it to the ON position for 10? secs and then inserting the newly cut key? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Micks

Guess your not going to pass that info on?

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No mate I’m taking that info with me to the grave.


I should have elaborated more with my story as it was about the laziness of the locksmith but the car wasn't a VE it was a VS Clubby and for that model it was as simple as knowing the sequence than insert the key or the other way round. I’d have to find the instructions to be sure.




If you’re talking about the VE’s onward you need a transponder and the how to and videos are all over the net.


There are possibly better ones than the ones I've offered here.



http://www.autoequipment.com.au/imag...OGRAMMING1.pdf



https://youtu.be/eB-xCVOgKSg

Can you easily take the blade out of the flip keys or do they fall apart?
Pretty sure you can get the transponder like mentioned from super cheap and whatnot. Could always get one of those and get the key cut at the local Mr Minit or whoever? Provided there's no extra security being a HSV....no one could do my VY GTS apart from the HSV dealer (even regular Holden dealers failed) due to needing additional codes from HSV

But then again, I guess its easiest for you to get it all done in one go Wonks

I've already replaced the buttons hoping that would help, but it didn't. :( The key was actually going backwards to its folding (flip) direction so given it was already bent I figured best to get a new one.

The bloody lazy locksmiths will "pay" for their slackness tomorrow when I ring them through the NRS (National Relay Service for people with speech and/or hearing difficulties) because it will take more of their time to wait while I type my introduction and questions up, then wait for the relay person to read that out to them, then give their answers and wait for the relay person to type out their answers for me (and so on) than it would to answer their bloody emails!! Normally I'd type my questions up in advance and paste them in to save time, but won't do that tomorrow. Or I will, but will make them wait before hitting the "GO" key. :nyuk: :nyuk: :nyuk:

Suffer in your jocks locksmiths!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

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Originally Posted by Wonky

I've already replaced the buttons hoping that would help, but it didn't. :( The key was actually going backwards to its folding (flip) direction so given it was already bent I figured best to get a new one.

The bloody lazy locksmiths will "pay" for their slackness tomorrow when I ring them through the NRS (National Relay Service for people with speech and/or hearing difficulties) because it will take more of their time to wait while I type my introduction and questions up, then wait for the relay person to read that out to them, then give their answers and wait for the relay person to type out their answers for me (and so on) than it would to answer their bloody emails!! Normally I'd type my questions up in advance and paste them in to save time, but won't do that tomorrow. Or I will, but will make them wait before hitting the "GO" key. :nyuk: :nyuk: :nyuk:

Suffer in your jocks locksmiths!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

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I wasn't even aware that locksmiths had the technology to do VE and onwards Gary. When we did my spare key a few months back I had to go to Holden to get it coded, cost me $50. if you are super careful it is possible to remove the transponder from the old key and relocate it, but it is a delicate operation and very easy to damage.

Yep, removing the transponder is no drama thanks - have done it a number of times with button swaps etc.. :) In fact, a couple of times when the key has come apart as I've removed it from the ignition the whole guts of the key has ended up on the driver's side floor! :eek:

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Originally Posted by Wonky

Yep, removing the transponder is no drama thanks - have done it a number of times with button swaps etc.. :) In fact, a couple of times when the key has come apart as I've removed it from the ignition the whole guts of the key has ended up on the driver's side floor! :eek:

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Are we talking about the same thing Gary, the little tiny plastic transponder that is buried in the key and needs to be gently filed to get out? I ask, because if you can swap this out, you don't need to get coding done?

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Originally Posted by BLACK 346

I wasn't even aware that locksmiths had the technology to do VE and onwards Gary. When we did my spare key a few months back I had to go to Holden to get it coded, cost me $50. if you are super careful it is possible to remove the transponder from the old key and relocate it, but it is a delicate operation and very easy to damage.

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Definitely some can do it, but I think only a few of them are able. I did find one in Sydney at Blacktown that does. I got a new flip key complete, cut and programmed $260. I only got one key when I bought my VE SS 2 years ago, I wanted to get a second key, didn't want to be in the position of something happen to the one and only key I had, then have no key at all.

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Originally Posted by BLACK 346

Are we talking about the same thing Gary, the little tiny plastic transponder that is buried in the key and needs to be gently filed to get out? I ask, because if you can swap this out, you don't need to get coding done?

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Hmm, possibly not. Can you find a photo of the bit you're talking about please? The last time my key fell apart a tiny black bit which looked like nothing fell out. The key still works without it so I'm assuming it's not, but if it is possible to just swap something to the new key after it's cut so no programming needed I'd be rapt!! Or explain what to look for and where? :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by Wonky

Hmm, possibly not. Can you find a photo of the bit you're talking about please? The last time my key fell apart a tiny black bit which looked like nothing fell out. The key still works without it so I'm assuming it's not, but if it is possible to just swap something to the new key after it's cut so no programming needed I'd be rapt!! Or explain what to look for and where? :goodjob:

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Sorry, can't take a photo of it Gary as it is buried inside the key. If you google transponder removal there are a couple of youtube vids of the process for removing it. It is seriously not much bigger than a piece of rice and I destroyed mine trying to remove it lol. Can be done though, and then inserted into new key head meaning no programming required :)

Without the transponder the key head will unlock the car, but cannot start it. Put the transponder in and away you go ;)