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After a quick google of ventilated seats it appears that the system is embedded into the seat foams and passes through the perforated seats. There is one photo with the vents in the "harness" holes but most appear to as i said earlier!Quote:
Originally Posted by cashie
Indicators on the side of the car (ie the guards) also have a much wider field of vision. I've seen several cars that have had such poor front, rear and side light design that from side on but slightly to the rear I couldn't tell if the indicator was on or not
I just handed back to Opel an Insignia wagon that i had for a week to review it had seat ventilation, it has fans in the seat back and seat base that blows cold air through the perforations damn good on a hot day put the air con on 5 min before you get into the car and the leather is cold instead of burning your ass off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plenty
I don't know about anyone else but I always thought the Caprice/Statesman indicators in the guard looked pretty good and are quite visable when I see them driving around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plenty
Agree, I searched and found the same... seems coincidental that the Chev SS has seat cooling and ours don't and the Chev has these "holes" in the seats..Quote:
Originally Posted by Plenty
Agree. Sorry Holden but these look like an aftermarket job:Quote:
Originally Posted by brasher
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Reminds me of Sileightys, Onevias, R34 fronts on R32s/R33s and other similar conversions - they're cool as projects but not straight off the assembly line IMHO.
I don't believe I've ever seen the ute/wagon rears get updates unless its an all-new model.
All through VN -> VS... Then VT -> VZ... They were the same.
I'm not sure why anyone would've expected them to change.
I'm betting they are the seats we will see in the HSV.Quote:
Originally Posted by cashie
Heating or cooling comes through the same way in the seats, only the temperature of the air differs.
I don't know why cooling wasn't included on the Calais. Heating might be good for those people down south but cooling would be great during a Qld summer. I hope HSV gets cooling too.
You'd think the Caprice would get them too?Quote:
Originally Posted by zacaxel1975
Yeah, could be one of the extras Caprice gets over Calais, like HID/xenon headlights. Hope HSV gets them too, I think the Chevy has them, but not sure if HSV would spend the extra $$ installing self levelling and washers required for xenon, if the SWB Holdens don't have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag530G
http://www.carsales.com.au/news/hold...ommodore-35237
" VF Commodore to miss out on the gearshift paddles seen in Chevrolet’s US export version, but will bring a host of new tech
GM Holden’s upcoming VF Commodore will not be available with the gearshift paddles fitted as standard to its US export twin, the Chevrolet SS.
Instead, the convenient steering wheel-mounted shift buttons are likely to be offered by HSV’s facelifted F-Series line-up, which will continue to be powered by a version of the 6.2-litre LS3 V8 that powers the Chevy SS.
As we reported when the Chevy SS was revealed at Daytona last weekend, V8 versions of the VF Commodore will continue with a version of the current 6.0-litre engine.
GM Holden External Communications Director Craig Cheetham confirmed to motoring.com.au that no versions of Australia’s VF Commodore will be fitted with the shift paddles seen in the Chevy SS.
“The Chevrolet SS has a unique specification tailored specifically for the US market, where demand for the TAPshift steering wheel paddles was identified,” he said.
“But at this stage we have no plans to make paddle shifters available on any VF Commodore from launch.”
However, although our SS will miss out on the North American version’s bigger V8 and paddle shifters, unlike the auto-only Chevy SS the Commodore SS will continue to be available with a six-speed manual transmission.
Upstream Commodore variants are also likely to be available with the rest of the Chevrolet’s extensive equipment list.
Perhaps most significantly, that includes a driver’s knee airbag, which will bring to seven the number of airbags fitted as standard across the VF Commodore range.
Holden has revealed Calais V, V8 Supercar, SS V, Chevrolet SS and Ute and Sportwagon versions of the new VF Commodore.
In the lead up to its official launch in May and retail release in June, the VF Commodore will also be the subject of an extended pre-reveal campaign including separate design, powertrain, chassis, technology and safety briefings.
Holden has already confirmed that some (premium) Commodore variants will be available with a range of new high-tech driver aids, including Forward Collision Alert, Lane Departure Warning, Side Blind Zone Alert, Rear Cross Traffic Alert, a reversing camera, colour head-up display, push-button starting, electric parking brake and, as standard in all VF Commodores, electric power steering and an automated parking function.
All of the above will come standard in the Chevrolet SS, the only option for which will be a sunroof in North America, where pricing is expected to be less than $US45,000 - about $10,000 lower than the equivalently specified Commodore.
A glance through the extensive Chevy SS specifications list reveals a range of other new features that should at least be available in the vital new VF line-up, although many will be off-limits to buyers of entry-level Commodores.
They include high intensity gas-discharge (HID) headlights, LED daytime driving lights and a larger eight-inch colour in-dash touch-screen (as seen in both the Calais V and SS V), plus the MyLink telematics system, rain-sensing wipers and heated and ventilated front seats.
Holden has confirmed the VF Commodore will also come with power window switches and door locks on the driver’s door armrest rather than the centre console, a remote boot release button on the driver’s door pocket instead of the glovebox, steering wheel- (rather than stalk-) mounted cruise controls, all-new front and rear seats in two designs, two smaller steering wheel designs and higher-quality perforated leather trim.
As we’ve reported, Holden will cut the number of dashboard designs in the VF from three to one, with differentiation between variants limited to colour and trim.
Like the Chevy SS, sports Commodore models including the SS will feature red information displays and a suede-like material on the dash, doors and seats, while luxury variants including the Calais will offer a two-tone dash treatment separated by a full-width faux-woodgrain trim strip instead of sports models’ ‘Galvano’ chrome highlights.
Both sports and luxury variants will be available with light and dark trim choices, but no details of the entry-level VF Commodore’s interior treatment have been revealed and there is still no split/foldinging rear seat."
Not that anyone should have expected otherwise, but at least it's now officially confirmed.
All good for them to offer shift paddles because is was identified as something for the U.S. market what about the 6.2L that Australian market which is a lot bigger would or maybe tire pressure monitors that we've also wanted since the VE became a pontiac.
We are only getting some of tech for the VF because it was demanded for the U.S. market.
I find it a little disappointing that the VF wont be specced up to match the VE export features as a minimum. I still don't see why the smaller volume export sales get all the bells and whistles, where as our dwindling domestic sales get a bit shafted with features, I would have thought Holden would throw everything they can at the VF for our market, to try and lift sales and interest from the general public, not just the Holden enthusiasts. Oh well.
So it'll have forward collision alert and lane departure warning but no adaptive cruise? But the techs already there! Also, all versions getting automated parking is interesting
From what I've read elsewhere, the Forward Collision system on the Holden is only a half system, it displays a warning but doesn't apply the brakes, its up to the driver to do that. Consequently it's that braking component which is needed for radar/adaptive cruise and Holden doesn't actually have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve_t
A pity because on the times I've hired a M-B C200 CGI, I've loved the adaptive crusie control which can brake (not just coast) the car and also has a proper speed hold function, perfect for driving around the city with the menace of speed cameras.
Cheers, Matthew